October 14, 2025 • 10 mins
After watching the BTK Killer on Netflix, Joe and Ashley want to know what are those family secrets that you didn't find out until much later in life?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tampa Bay's number one and only hit music channel ninety
three to three fl Z. So you know, I love
talking documentaries. I love talking all that fun on the show.
And there is a new documentary on Netflix that you
gotta watch, The BTK Killer. My dad is the bt
(00:23):
K Killer?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Where it happened? Because Jed X and I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It happened in Wichita, Yes Wichita cans. Let me break
this down for you. So in witch Talk, Kansas in
the eighties, seventies and eighties, there was a killer.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It started with I got October two. I'm swooped out. Yes,
spooky it started. And what I want to talk about too,
by the way, is family secrets. I want you guys
to think about what's a family secret and how did
you find out?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And what is it? Eight hundred and four and the
ninety three. So there is a family of four, well
there's a family of six, but four of them were murdered,
parents and two kids. The son survivor walked into the
home and saw his family tied up and dead. Yep,
(01:22):
So he runs out of the house. He gets people
freaking out, cops come, all that stuff. Can't figure out
who it is. Okay, following yep, more murders happen, but
they're not connecting them, and that makes the BTK killer mad,
so he writes a note to the police years later,
(01:46):
well a little bit later, about a year later, because
something happens that his ego doesn't like. While these killings
are going on and they're not connecting anything to anyone,
they make an arrest. They arrest too brothers, who then
admit to killing that family. That made the BTK killer
(02:06):
so mad that he wrote a note to the police
and he said, you guys got the wrong guys, I'm
the one, and just to prove to you, here's every
detail of what I did and you don't have. Like
the cops, they don't release all the information. So they're like,
oh my god, he has all this information. He definitely
did it. So then goes on, he's writing more letters.
(02:29):
He's like, hey, just so you know, remember this death,
remember that death I did this. Also call me BTK
bondage tah A torture bondage, torture kill. So it goes
on and on and on, and then he disappears for
(02:49):
like twenty years, and then in two thousand and five
he comes back he writes a letter to the news
in which people think that he died or he ran away.
Twenty years later, he writes a letter and he's like,
you guys didn't catch me, And just to prove to you,
here's a driver's license of another victim. Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh my I was crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yep. And then the craziest part and show you how
dumb this guy was. He's talking with the news and
he's like, I have more information, but I want to
talk to you digitally. I want to send you a
floppy disk. Can you track the floppy desk? Be honest
and be honest. He asked them to be honest, so
(03:30):
of course they were super honest and said, no, you
can't track it. They caught the guy like twenty four
hours later.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I've never seen a serial killer ever just give themselves
up like that.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well you've also well I guess no. I mean, listen,
watch all the serial killer documentaries like this. I don't
know how many of them have two kids and a wife.
He took a break because he was raising his kids.
So the documentary is about the girl like kind of
like figuring out things about her dad.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah, and they confirmed it by linking her DNA because
she went to school and she got a passmere so
she had her DNA was public, so they ready to
get her DNA.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And like, oh, you're the daughter of the BTK killer.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Woah.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
This is even crazier than that one where the guy
was artificially giving other people kids.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Dat. Yeah, it is crazier because this guy was killing people.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Yes, and he said at least he had not a
wife and family and a job. He's like, I would
have killed more people who that would have more time?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, and he was like disappointed. He was on the
run for twenty years. It wasn't on the run. He
was like hitting in plain sight. The guy was a
part of like the basically sidewalk committee. Yeah, he was
like a dog watch he would he was a boy scout,
he would he was a true leader.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Would have never guessed it.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, he never guessed it. And they catch him and
it really did. It had me thinking like, God, if
my dad was the killer, would I'd be able to know?
Like how did they not know? But he had to
cover up for everything and he was just so low
key about it.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Oh and then his wife mentioned his handwriting or no,
she was like you kind of write like the BTK killer,
and he never said anything after that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They were like, glad you did, because you might be next.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, they think that she would have been next if
she figured it out.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I know what I gotta watch.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I go.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Oh it's amazing, it's super freaky. It is a movie.
So it's just one thing you don't have to worry about.
Seventeen episodes. The daughter's a little crazy, but raally so.
She's a lot of crazy. I mean yeah, the whole
entire time, I'm like, you're kind of crazy, lady.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
She made a lot though.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah. We have the same butt, her and I Do
you notice that when they would show her? But every
single time I'm like, is that my body? How do
they get me in this documentary?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Did not know?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Oh yeah? Oh yeah. The news people all talk to
like newspeople. Yeah. The woman's great, she's cool.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
But it just the fact that the police had to
go to this daughter and be like, hey, your dad's
the BTK kid. That has got to be the biggest
family secret of them all. I remember being like flabbergasted.
I was shocked. When I was a little kid and
(06:21):
my grandma walked up to me and I was talking
about my uncle Josh, and my uncle Josh called my
grandma Mary and I'm like, whoa, you can't. You gotta
respect your mother. And he's like, well, I'm adopted, it
doesn't matter. And then that was when I found out
that my uncle Josh was adopted. Obviously not even remotely
the same as the BTK killer, but that was like
the family secret at the time that I was like,
(06:43):
no way, really a.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Family secret of mine. I don't even remember how I
found out. And now when we get off the you
after to call my mom, but her my mom is
a twin so her twin brother. He actually shot and
killed his best friend in the basement of my grandmother's
home on accident, and he never wanted to it.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
They were I think, like fourteen, what do they do
lock him in the basement.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
No, they were just playing with a gun and he
accidentally shot his best friend.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
No, I'm saying, did they lock him in the basement? Oh?
Speaker 5 (07:10):
No, he did go like to like some type of
juvenile detention center, I guess, but I'm like, yeah, it's
probably why he's crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
He's crazy, now, is he crazy?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Is that why you call him crazy?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
John no, but he's a little cuckoo.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I'm like, girl, do you call him crazy and then
his name?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
No, to his face, I don't even call him. How
about that because he's crazy?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Far away from him, yeah, it probably would too.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But when I am bury near, I'm like, hey, what up? Uh?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I found out so many things about my family as
I get older. I feel like when you turn twenty seven,
you start to be told things. Do you have any
family secrets?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I have one that was wanted by the FBI. He
was an accomplice with the Oklahoma City bombing with Timothy McVeigh,
and he is also how shall I say, he thinks
that the whole entire thing, the Oklahoma City job, was
an inside job, So he doesn't believe that the person
he thinks the person who actually carried out the whole
(08:07):
entire thing.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Have you seen that documentary? I did? I don't. I
suggest the same thing kind of Yeah, so how the
building blew up?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yeah, there was no way that a truck. Well, I
don't want to get into it either because I kind
of believe the same things that he believes. But he's
Michigan militia member, totally crazy, owns tanks, black Hawk helicopters.
He was in prison after fleeing from the FBI after
the investigation.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Unbelievably dark with this question, but how do you think
these people kill?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
It's just something that how do they get over it?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I think.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
They're in trial and he's like talking to his daughters.
He's like sending her mail because she's like, you know,
I still love my dad. And while they're in trial,
he's like, hey, things are going to start coming out
because the the prosecuting attorneys basically said, like, you already
admitted everything. Now we're just going to embarrass you in
(09:06):
front of everyone. So he says, hey, things are about
to get worse. And then in court they release photos
that he would take of himself where he would wear
women's clothes and get tied up.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
The women's he murdered.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, he tied himself in a tree, which I still
it's been about fifteen hours and I still don't understand how.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
He don't know like he was late.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
He was like a bet a bad Yeah, yeah, he
was hunging upside down, tied up, wearing women's clothes.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
No clue.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Also, they need to start doing on Netflix, like hey,
you're about to see penis.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I agree, like.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You're about to see peace in five four three two.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Wow, this is all in your face.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's just like it really is.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
At least with women when it comes to our beautiful
it's yes, it's like, well it's a bit much.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah, it's and I don't know any other woman who
would love that in the face or not.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But anyways, worth the watch. Pretty good stuff. Happy Halloween season.
The spooks are out. Other documentary is some ghost documentary
that I think I'm going to watch tonight. You see
the paranormal documentary that they add on, of course, I
mean you watch the other one though by yourself.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
I know, But paranormal activity is just different. Like my
doors could be just like shaken. They could sometimes they do.
And I've got the laundry going
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, yeah, my washing machine is haunted as well.
Tampa Bay's number one and only hit music channel ninety
three to three fl Z. So you know, I love
talking documentaries. I love talking all that fun on the show.
And there is a new documentary on Netflix that you
gotta watch, The BTK Killer. My dad is the bt
(00:23):
K Killer?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Where it happened? Because Jed X and I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It happened in Wichita, Yes Wichita cans. Let me break
this down for you. So in witch Talk, Kansas in
the eighties, seventies and eighties, there was a killer.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It started with I got October two. I'm swooped out. Yes,
spooky it started. And what I want to talk about too,
by the way, is family secrets. I want you guys
to think about what's a family secret and how did
you find out?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And what is it? Eight hundred and four and the
ninety three. So there is a family of four, well
there's a family of six, but four of them were murdered,
parents and two kids. The son survivor walked into the
home and saw his family tied up and dead. Yep,
(01:22):
So he runs out of the house. He gets people
freaking out, cops come, all that stuff. Can't figure out
who it is. Okay, following yep, more murders happen, but
they're not connecting them, and that makes the BTK killer mad,
so he writes a note to the police years later,
(01:46):
well a little bit later, about a year later, because
something happens that his ego doesn't like. While these killings
are going on and they're not connecting anything to anyone,
they make an arrest. They arrest too brothers, who then
admit to killing that family. That made the BTK killer
(02:06):
so mad that he wrote a note to the police
and he said, you guys got the wrong guys, I'm
the one, and just to prove to you, here's every
detail of what I did and you don't have. Like
the cops, they don't release all the information. So they're like,
oh my god, he has all this information. He definitely
did it. So then goes on, he's writing more letters.
(02:29):
He's like, hey, just so you know, remember this death,
remember that death I did this. Also call me BTK
bondage tah A torture bondage, torture kill. So it goes
on and on and on, and then he disappears for
(02:49):
like twenty years, and then in two thousand and five
he comes back he writes a letter to the news
in which people think that he died or he ran away.
Twenty years later, he writes a letter and he's like,
you guys didn't catch me, And just to prove to you,
here's a driver's license of another victim. Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh my I was crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yep. And then the craziest part and show you how
dumb this guy was. He's talking with the news and
he's like, I have more information, but I want to
talk to you digitally. I want to send you a
floppy disk. Can you track the floppy desk? Be honest
and be honest. He asked them to be honest, so
(03:30):
of course they were super honest and said, no, you
can't track it. They caught the guy like twenty four
hours later.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I've never seen a serial killer ever just give themselves
up like that.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well you've also well I guess no. I mean, listen,
watch all the serial killer documentaries like this. I don't
know how many of them have two kids and a wife.
He took a break because he was raising his kids.
So the documentary is about the girl like kind of
like figuring out things about her dad.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah, and they confirmed it by linking her DNA because
she went to school and she got a passmere so
she had her DNA was public, so they ready to
get her DNA.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And like, oh, you're the daughter of the BTK killer.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Woah.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
This is even crazier than that one where the guy
was artificially giving other people kids.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Dat. Yeah, it is crazier because this guy was killing people.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Yes, and he said at least he had not a
wife and family and a job. He's like, I would
have killed more people who that would have more time?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, and he was like disappointed. He was on the
run for twenty years. It wasn't on the run. He
was like hitting in plain sight. The guy was a
part of like the basically sidewalk committee. Yeah, he was
like a dog watch he would he was a boy scout,
he would he was a true leader.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Would have never guessed it.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, he never guessed it. And they catch him and
it really did. It had me thinking like, God, if
my dad was the killer, would I'd be able to know?
Like how did they not know? But he had to
cover up for everything and he was just so low
key about it.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Oh and then his wife mentioned his handwriting or no,
she was like you kind of write like the BTK killer,
and he never said anything after that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They were like, glad you did, because you might be next.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, they think that she would have been next if
she figured it out.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I know what I gotta watch.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I go.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Oh it's amazing, it's super freaky. It is a movie.
So it's just one thing you don't have to worry about.
Seventeen episodes. The daughter's a little crazy, but raally so.
She's a lot of crazy. I mean yeah, the whole
entire time, I'm like, you're kind of crazy, lady.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
She made a lot though.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah. We have the same butt, her and I Do
you notice that when they would show her? But every
single time I'm like, is that my body? How do
they get me in this documentary?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Did not know?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Oh yeah? Oh yeah. The news people all talk to
like newspeople. Yeah. The woman's great, she's cool.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
But it just the fact that the police had to
go to this daughter and be like, hey, your dad's
the BTK kid. That has got to be the biggest
family secret of them all. I remember being like flabbergasted.
I was shocked. When I was a little kid and
(06:21):
my grandma walked up to me and I was talking
about my uncle Josh, and my uncle Josh called my
grandma Mary and I'm like, whoa, you can't. You gotta
respect your mother. And he's like, well, I'm adopted, it
doesn't matter. And then that was when I found out
that my uncle Josh was adopted. Obviously not even remotely
the same as the BTK killer, but that was like
the family secret at the time that I was like,
(06:43):
no way, really a.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Family secret of mine. I don't even remember how I
found out. And now when we get off the you
after to call my mom, but her my mom is
a twin so her twin brother. He actually shot and
killed his best friend in the basement of my grandmother's
home on accident, and he never wanted to it.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
They were I think, like fourteen, what do they do
lock him in the basement.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
No, they were just playing with a gun and he
accidentally shot his best friend.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
No, I'm saying, did they lock him in the basement? Oh?
Speaker 5 (07:10):
No, he did go like to like some type of
juvenile detention center, I guess, but I'm like, yeah, it's
probably why he's crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
He's crazy, now, is he crazy?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Is that why you call him crazy?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
John no, but he's a little cuckoo.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I'm like, girl, do you call him crazy and then
his name?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
No, to his face, I don't even call him. How
about that because he's crazy?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Far away from him, yeah, it probably would too.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But when I am bury near, I'm like, hey, what up? Uh?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I found out so many things about my family as
I get older. I feel like when you turn twenty seven,
you start to be told things. Do you have any
family secrets?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I have one that was wanted by the FBI. He
was an accomplice with the Oklahoma City bombing with Timothy McVeigh,
and he is also how shall I say, he thinks
that the whole entire thing, the Oklahoma City job, was
an inside job, So he doesn't believe that the person
he thinks the person who actually carried out the whole
(08:07):
entire thing.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Have you seen that documentary? I did? I don't. I
suggest the same thing kind of Yeah, so how the
building blew up?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yeah, there was no way that a truck. Well, I
don't want to get into it either because I kind
of believe the same things that he believes. But he's
Michigan militia member, totally crazy, owns tanks, black Hawk helicopters.
He was in prison after fleeing from the FBI after
the investigation.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Unbelievably dark with this question, but how do you think
these people kill?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
It's just something that how do they get over it?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I think.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
They're in trial and he's like talking to his daughters.
He's like sending her mail because she's like, you know,
I still love my dad. And while they're in trial,
he's like, hey, things are going to start coming out
because the the prosecuting attorneys basically said, like, you already
admitted everything. Now we're just going to embarrass you in
(09:06):
front of everyone. So he says, hey, things are about
to get worse. And then in court they release photos
that he would take of himself where he would wear
women's clothes and get tied up.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
The women's he murdered.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, he tied himself in a tree, which I still
it's been about fifteen hours and I still don't understand how.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
He don't know like he was late.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
He was like a bet a bad Yeah, yeah, he
was hunging upside down, tied up, wearing women's clothes.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
No clue.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Also, they need to start doing on Netflix, like hey,
you're about to see penis.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I agree, like.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You're about to see peace in five four three two.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Wow, this is all in your face.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's just like it really is.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
At least with women when it comes to our beautiful
it's yes, it's like, well it's a bit much.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah, it's and I don't know any other woman who
would love that in the face or not.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But anyways, worth the watch. Pretty good stuff. Happy Halloween season.
The spooks are out. Other documentary is some ghost documentary
that I think I'm going to watch tonight. You see
the paranormal documentary that they add on, of course, I
mean you watch the other one though by yourself.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
I know, But paranormal activity is just different. Like my
doors could be just like shaken. They could sometimes they do.
And I've got the laundry going
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, yeah, my washing machine is haunted as well.
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