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November 4, 2025 53 mins
Jo sits down with Jack Hopkins—a former Republican, Navy vet, and host of The Jack Hopkins Show podcast—to rip off the polite tape and get right to what’s freaking everyone out: Trump playing toy soldier with the National Guard and threatening to turn the military against regular Americans, all for the sake of television optics and a bigger slice of power. We’re not here for the spin or the “let’s hear both sides” nonsense. We’re cutting straight to the ugly truth: what happens when public safety becomes just another prop for politics, and negotiating isn’t about meeting in the middle.Jack talks about surviving relentless chaos, dealing with trauma and fear, and why the only way out of this mess is by refusing to let go of your humanity…even when those in charge want nothing more than to wear everyone down. Sane(ish) Partners: - ⁠Fast Growing Trees⁠: Sane(ish) listeners also get 15% OFF their first purchase by visiting⁠ ⁠https://www.FastGrowingTrees.com/SANEISH⁠ ⁠– and using the code SANEISH at checkout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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