August 26, 2024 • 18 mins
Celebrating their smash "End Of Time" going #1 on the dance charts, Lucas from Lucas & Steve joined us on America's Dance 30, and shared how the song was born w Lawrent & Jordan Shaw, how long ago they started working on it, and how many Vs there were of the song before its release. Lucas also talked their latest songs w Tiesto & Laura White.
We also got to know Lucas & Steve better w #FinkysFirsts!
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We also got to know Lucas & Steve better w #FinkysFirsts!
Find out about:
- if music was the first thing Lucas wanted to get into when he was growing up
- Lucas' first time performing
- the first time Lucas met Steve
- when they first decided to come together as 'Lucas & Steve'
- if 'Lucas & Steve' was the first name they decided on for their artist project
- the first song Lucas produced
- the first time Lucas heard one of their songs on the radio
- the first thing Lucas would wanna hold til the end of time
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Count down the biggest dance songs in the country every week with Brian Fink on America’s Dance 30; listen on stations around the world!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Dance counting down the biggest dance songs in the country.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is America's Dance thirty.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Lucas of Lucas and Steve welcome back to America's Dance thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yes, he's good to be that man. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'm great. It has been way too long since you've
been on the show. Now we caught up at Miami
Music Week when you guys were all fresh and making
us look bad. It has been two years since you've
been on a d thirty. That is unacceptable.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That is absolutely unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah. Yeah, so really happy we have an opportunity to
make it up.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Here and a great time for you to be on
America's Dance thirty. Congratulations on end of time going number one.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Man. It's it's insane. It's we're so so happy with
when they're doing that. Well, it's crazy. It's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I got to tell you.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I don't know if Carrie or Juice or anybody told you,
but it's frustrating to me because I think it should
have went number one a lot faster because it is
such a good song.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I know. Actually when we released this tune, I think
we're already talking to you about this song in Miami.
You're absolutely a very very very early adapter to this tune,
so I know that you liked it from the shop,
but you never know what a song is going to do,
and we had a very very good feeling. But number one, Wow,
you cannot expect that we're ye over the moon.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
That's so awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Well, congratulations, can't wait to talk all about the song.
We're also going to be talking about your new song
with Laura White. Are you ready and find out how
that song was born? Too, But first, let's get to
know Lucas and Steve a little better with Thinky's first.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Sure, Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I know that you guys formed Lucas and Steve back
in twenty ten, and were you a solo DJ before that?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
We actually both were DJing solo before that, like playing
small clubs and bars and making some music. Yeah, so
we had a I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Call it a solo career.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It was more like solo bedroom studio producer.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
That's too funny.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
But before all that, when you were growing up, was
music the first thing that you wanted to get into
or was there something else you wanted to be when
you grew up a couple of fais.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know, I've been playing the drums since I was five.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
My mom, she's a professional pianist, so she told me
to play the piano at a really young age. So
music has always been a huge thing in my life.
But also I practiced a judo, you know, the Marshall art.
I did it also from an age of five, and
I back then I wanted to be professional at that
as well.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But I mean having multiple occupations is a little difficult.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Do you still practice?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Sometimes?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I practice kongfu. Sometimes I trained with laid back Luke
for example. He's a crazy confu master that I'm absolutely
not at his level, but I'm still into martial arts.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Now, you talk about being a bedroom DJ and producer
and not really having that much of a solo career beforehand.
But do you remember the first time you DJed an event?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yes, I actually do. I think I was eleven or
twelve and I was playing at just one of those
class parties. You know, you're at high school, first grade
and somebody throws a party and you're like, hey, I'm
happy to dj, And back then everybody else was like fighting,
who has to play the new think it was not
(04:00):
like something people like to do except for me.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So I guess that was my first gig.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, And then what about professionally, what was your first
gig professionally?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I think professionally I must have been. I think probably
also around that age that people are, it went kind
of quickly that people wanted to spend some money on
booking me as one of their I don't know, graduation
events or whatever, but I think it was Steve and I, well,
we had our first shows. I think it was already
(04:33):
in the direction of professional I mean we were getting bad.
I think yeah, that was that was It's a huge
goal on on itself, right for something that you loved
that much, So.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, I would call it professional issue.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Now, when was the first time that you met Steve?
We met very.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Very early on primary school already. But I'm two years
older than Steve, so you if you're six, two years
difference is a lot to somebody who's eight, right, So
it took me until secondary school or high school that we,
you know, really got to meet. Because we're both in
music and we're both from the small town in the
(05:13):
Sound of the Netherlands called Mastrix. You've probably never heard
of it, but it's a small town, so if people
are DJing, everybody would know.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I have it on my bucket list to visit there now, joking,
do it?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Give me surprised?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You and me surprised go to I advite you if
you ever go to Masterric, let me know and I'll
give you a tour.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You'll love it. I'm really really sure.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Perfect.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Now, when did you guys decide to come together instead
of being too solo?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I think that was we were both playing the same
bars and clubs, and we're like, let's let's just, you know,
try and make some music together, try to do some
shows together. But then we were doing sets all the time,
like all evening from ten at night until I don't know,
like four or five, six in the morning. So it's
it's it's more fun if you're both you know, partying
(06:01):
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And yeah, it was good fun now looking back to
that because I come from that era too, where DJs
we're playing like six seven eight hour sets. Looking back
to that now doing festivals where it's like maybe an hour,
hour and a half, is it weird doing a shorter
set like that?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, it used to be very weird in the beginning.
I think it felt very luxurious to start with. If
you you know, if your starting point is doing sets
from six seven hours and you you know you have
to you have to worry about going to the to
the men's room, right, I mean, and who doesn't in
(06:40):
such a period of time to huge luxury if you.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Can, you know, just forget about that.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Do your thing, play only your favorite records in an
hour instead of you know, a.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Lot of stuff to fill it up. That's that's yeah,
you feel spoiled.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
It's definitely a luxury.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It is right now.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
When you guys were trying to decide on an artist
project name, was using your real first names as your
artist project always the first choice?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Or did you have other names you're going to go with?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You would love to.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Know that, didn't you come on out?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We had We had the most horrible, horrible name set
to get but it was all stupid.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I think, I think I I literally wouldn't wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
We like, it's not like that we tried them out
or we were on flyers or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I can't reveal this.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It was really that simful when we were playing solo
as well, so Steve was called Steve and was his
real name is Stephen, and I used my initials.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
My DJ name was Lucas c J.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So it yeah, yeah, ye, yeah, this is way better.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I'm happy just to keep it as simple as possible.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Lucas and Steve just rolls off the tongue much better.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah man, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Now do you remember the first song that you produced
or wrote?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I must have.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I have it on a hard drive somewhere, but it's
it's locked and sealed a way.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It will never make the light of day.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It will never make the light of day. We said,
you know what we should do. This is something we
did last year at Ade. We did an exclusive only
set only. I think the venue only fitted about one
hundred people and were playing all only unreleased stuff. We
should do this with our first records, and I think
that it will start crowded, but before the hour is over,
(08:42):
everybody will be gone. It's like everybody's first records are horrible.
There's nobody who creates something great from the start. You
gotta start somewhere absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a process.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Now, you guys have had so many songs on the radio,
including end of Time.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I'm your new number one. Do you remember the first
time hearing your song on the radio?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yes, yes I do. My car broke down.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
It was in the car, it broke down, and then
some kind of how do you say it?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It was like the first aid kit.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
On the on the wounds, not the real wound, but yeah,
you know what I mean, the mental wounds of your
broken car and waiting for you know, help to arrive
in everything.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And our song came on radio.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It was amazing, Wow, that makes everything better.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Totally. I didn't I didn't give anything about you know,
the car breaking.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I was like, whatever, my song's on the radio. I'm fine.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
That is so amazing. It's totally kiss met.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah it is, isn't it? Now?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Finally in honor of end of time, going number one.
It's got the lyrics I want to hold you till
the end of time besides your wife? What is the
first thing you want to hold till the end of time?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And a little apprecid before we were talking on air, right,
I showed you my dog.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Dude, I totally get it.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I don't think I need to say.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
More, absolutely not, because I would say my fir child
Tucker absolutely, I totally get it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
They're the best.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Like I said, I wish I was at home right now,
just so I could have Tucker with me.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Here.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Let's talk about this smash. How was End of Time born?
With Laurent and Jordan Shaw?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, so it's quite incredible and also like a lesson
in making music in a sense that we've been working
with Jordan, like for years and years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
We already made some tunes, never released those.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You know, sometimes you reopen the project and then it's
totally there and you're like it's interesting, but it's you know,
it's just not there yet, but you're still like you
really enjoyed the session, and you're looking back at somebody
who's incredibly talented and skilled. And at some point we
you know, we got this call. I think Laurent he
(11:06):
gave us a heads up, like we started something really cool.
So with Jordan, I know, you guys know Jordan, and
we heard that first demo and the first thing before
the thing was like like a full project, like the
first lines and the first melody.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I was like, wow, we need to finish this.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And now we got back in the studio like all
together and we you know, started finishing it up and
it became like a whole song, became a tune it
and yeah, I really felt with this one the magic
was there really really quickly. And yeah, and that's incredible.
And the lesson that we learned from that is like,
even if you haven't had a hit with somebody yet,
(11:42):
but if you as long as you've had that first
great studio vibe, I'm really sure you can make absolutely
great music that you're really proud of a really really
happy way, just you know, keep on grinding.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So how different was the final project from the demo
that they started?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
In essence, you always like keep the really really good
stuff and the things that they started. These guys there
talent is really really impressive. So we kept those things
and you know, started working around it do sound design.
I think we switched up the tempo, you know a
little bit like it were kind of thorough changes. But
on the other hand, like the really strong stuff that
(12:20):
it already did, you know, you absolutely have to keep
that in there, and we started to build. So it's, yes,
it's quite different, but you know, I got to respect
these guys for the work.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
They already did. It was absolutely incredible, great great songwriters.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yeah, you could tell. The bones of it are just
so good.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Now, something I love to find out is how many
different v's there are of a song, from when you
start working on it, all the tweaking that goes on
to when you finally put it out mastered.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Do you remember what the final V was of End
of Time?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, I'm looking it up right now on my laptop.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I kind of felt this one coming to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I love finding out like the process of producers.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, but you know, sometimes it's will be. Actually we
never end up with V two or something. It's we
were always making things complicated and sometimes a little too complicated.
So yeah, let me see if I can find it.
I can find V six year, I see the thirteen
(13:25):
at least, so and then I'm not even talking about,
you know, is mixing and mastering and everything. This is
just like the setting it up, getting the arrangement right, songwriting,
like sound design, it's a it's.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
A it's an ongoing process, yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, even if you think you've nailed it and you've
found the right sounds, that you listen to it again,
maybe in your car or a different system. Besides for
our studio, and you get inspired again and you think
you can beat what you already had, and that's how
you get at least thirteen versions.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I think we had a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Yeah, Now, how long ago did you guys start working
on it?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Oh, I think that was. It went quite quick. I
think by the end of last year. And that is
quite quick. Actually, we've had songs that we've worked on
for I don't know at least started like years ago
and then Yeah, sometimes it just takes time.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It also has to do with it always has to
do with timing. Right if you feel like the.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Song, the sound is the right sound for right now,
then you you know you just got to release it
as soon as possible. And the fact that it hit
number one and America's Dance thirty, I think it was
the right time.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Absolutely, congratulations on that.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And then of course you've got your other release with Tiesto.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Tell us about that smash.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yes, So this is something we've been working on for
a long.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Time, that we've played at ady E last year, and
all of a sudden we got this message from Est
texting us and this was like a super early stage
of the record.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's like guys, what is this?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I gotta have it, and we're like, it's all ready
to play yet you know, it's still you know, we
were just seizing it. We only have one drop that
doesn't even have a break. It's like yeah, yeah, but yeah,
so as do you want to work on it together?
So we sent him stamps, went back and forth, went
to the studio together, and then yeah, no, it's it's
finally out records called Zendless really creates a club tune.
(15:40):
I see it, Yes, playing it all the time right now,
and we of course also have in our sets. It's
also the anthem of a very big computer game right
now called Zendless Zone zero. I think about forty five
million people subscribe to the game in advance before it
was released, so it's it's crazy numbers and it's really
hard to grasp what's all happening, but it's yeah, it's
(16:02):
a huge thing, and.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
That's got to be a good feeling getting a text
from Tiesto saying, hey, what is this?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
We're really we're quite close and we're texting about all
kinds of stuff and good music and going back and forth.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But this is what went super natural, Like it was.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Like, wow, what's that now, let's talk about are you
ready with Laura White?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
How was that song born?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
This started I think around the same period. Also last
year we played a version. The first version that we
played was at New Year's Eve in this legendary club
in Germany called Boats House. I'm not sure if you've
ever heard of it. It's crazy, like, the crowd is insane,
the club's beautiful, the sound is great, it has everything.
(16:49):
And we used this tune because it was that euphoric.
We use it for the countdown at twelve o'clock and
we were like, just let's test it out and we
played that instrum mental. There was no vocal yet from Laura,
and we got so many messages after like what was
that song?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I need to have it? When is it released? Will
it be released? Like so many questions.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So we decided to We've worked with Laura before and
she's incredible, and I gave her acall and said check
this out.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
What do you think.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
She's like, yeah, I'm vibing to do this straight away,
got a lot of ideas and then we had this
online studio session. Two days later, she sent us the
vocal stamps. We made this ghost folk kind of choir
together that worked really well for it. And really this
record is all about the good vives. Even if you
don't have vocals on it, it will still make people
(17:41):
dance and smile and you know, raise our hands up
in the air and just be in the moment.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And that's what this one is all about.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So we also we thought with Laura, we really want
to have this these lyrics about it. I mean, it's
simple but effective. Are you ready for the good times?
And that kind of says it all.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
It really is just a feel good song, which is
what we need right now. So congratulations on that release
as well.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Lucas.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
It is always great seeing you and catching up with you.
Thank you so much for your time with us on
America's Dance thirty.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Awesome, thank you so much for having us. Good to
be back after two years.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Absolutely, let's not make it that long next time.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Absolutely, let's do that. We promise to turn up the
frequency notch and be back soon. America's answer counting down
the biggest dance songs in the country.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
AM America's Dance thirty
Dance counting down the biggest dance songs in the country.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is America's Dance thirty.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Lucas of Lucas and Steve welcome back to America's Dance thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yes, he's good to be that man. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'm great. It has been way too long since you've
been on the show. Now we caught up at Miami
Music Week when you guys were all fresh and making
us look bad. It has been two years since you've
been on a d thirty. That is unacceptable.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That is absolutely unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah. Yeah, so really happy we have an opportunity to
make it up.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Here and a great time for you to be on
America's Dance thirty. Congratulations on end of time going number one.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Man. It's it's insane. It's we're so so happy with
when they're doing that. Well, it's crazy. It's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I got to tell you.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I don't know if Carrie or Juice or anybody told you,
but it's frustrating to me because I think it should
have went number one a lot faster because it is
such a good song.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I know. Actually when we released this tune, I think
we're already talking to you about this song in Miami.
You're absolutely a very very very early adapter to this tune,
so I know that you liked it from the shop,
but you never know what a song is going to do,
and we had a very very good feeling. But number one, Wow,
you cannot expect that we're ye over the moon.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
That's so awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Well, congratulations, can't wait to talk all about the song.
We're also going to be talking about your new song
with Laura White. Are you ready and find out how
that song was born? Too, But first, let's get to
know Lucas and Steve a little better with Thinky's first.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Sure, Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I know that you guys formed Lucas and Steve back
in twenty ten, and were you a solo DJ before that?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
We actually both were DJing solo before that, like playing
small clubs and bars and making some music. Yeah, so
we had a I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Call it a solo career.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It was more like solo bedroom studio producer.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
That's too funny.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
But before all that, when you were growing up, was
music the first thing that you wanted to get into
or was there something else you wanted to be when
you grew up a couple of fais.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know, I've been playing the drums since I was five.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
My mom, she's a professional pianist, so she told me
to play the piano at a really young age. So
music has always been a huge thing in my life.
But also I practiced a judo, you know, the Marshall art.
I did it also from an age of five, and
I back then I wanted to be professional at that
as well.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But I mean having multiple occupations is a little difficult.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Do you still practice?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Sometimes?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I practice kongfu. Sometimes I trained with laid back Luke
for example. He's a crazy confu master that I'm absolutely
not at his level, but I'm still into martial arts.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Now, you talk about being a bedroom DJ and producer
and not really having that much of a solo career beforehand.
But do you remember the first time you DJed an event?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yes, I actually do. I think I was eleven or
twelve and I was playing at just one of those
class parties. You know, you're at high school, first grade
and somebody throws a party and you're like, hey, I'm
happy to dj, And back then everybody else was like fighting,
who has to play the new think it was not
(04:00):
like something people like to do except for me.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So I guess that was my first gig.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, And then what about professionally, what was your first
gig professionally?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I think professionally I must have been. I think probably
also around that age that people are, it went kind
of quickly that people wanted to spend some money on
booking me as one of their I don't know, graduation
events or whatever, but I think it was Steve and I, well,
we had our first shows. I think it was already
(04:33):
in the direction of professional I mean we were getting bad.
I think yeah, that was that was It's a huge
goal on on itself, right for something that you loved
that much, So.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, I would call it professional issue.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Now, when was the first time that you met Steve?
We met very.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Very early on primary school already. But I'm two years
older than Steve, so you if you're six, two years
difference is a lot to somebody who's eight, right, So
it took me until secondary school or high school that we,
you know, really got to meet. Because we're both in
music and we're both from the small town in the
(05:13):
Sound of the Netherlands called Mastrix. You've probably never heard
of it, but it's a small town, so if people
are DJing, everybody would know.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I have it on my bucket list to visit there now, joking,
do it?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Give me surprised?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You and me surprised go to I advite you if
you ever go to Masterric, let me know and I'll
give you a tour.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You'll love it. I'm really really sure.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Perfect.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Now, when did you guys decide to come together instead
of being too solo?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I think that was we were both playing the same
bars and clubs, and we're like, let's let's just, you know,
try and make some music together, try to do some
shows together. But then we were doing sets all the time,
like all evening from ten at night until I don't know,
like four or five, six in the morning. So it's
it's it's more fun if you're both you know, partying
(06:01):
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And yeah, it was good fun now looking back to
that because I come from that era too, where DJs
we're playing like six seven eight hour sets. Looking back
to that now doing festivals where it's like maybe an hour,
hour and a half, is it weird doing a shorter
set like that?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, it used to be very weird in the beginning.
I think it felt very luxurious to start with. If
you you know, if your starting point is doing sets
from six seven hours and you you know you have
to you have to worry about going to the to
the men's room, right, I mean, and who doesn't in
(06:40):
such a period of time to huge luxury if you.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Can, you know, just forget about that.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Do your thing, play only your favorite records in an
hour instead of you know, a.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Lot of stuff to fill it up. That's that's yeah,
you feel spoiled.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
It's definitely a luxury.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It is right now.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
When you guys were trying to decide on an artist
project name, was using your real first names as your
artist project always the first choice?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Or did you have other names you're going to go with?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You would love to.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Know that, didn't you come on out?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We had We had the most horrible, horrible name set
to get but it was all stupid.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I think, I think I I literally wouldn't wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
We like, it's not like that we tried them out
or we were on flyers or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I can't reveal this.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It was really that simful when we were playing solo
as well, so Steve was called Steve and was his
real name is Stephen, and I used my initials.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
My DJ name was Lucas c J.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So it yeah, yeah, ye, yeah, this is way better.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I'm happy just to keep it as simple as possible.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Lucas and Steve just rolls off the tongue much better.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah man, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Now do you remember the first song that you produced
or wrote?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I must have.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I have it on a hard drive somewhere, but it's
it's locked and sealed a way.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It will never make the light of day.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It will never make the light of day. We said,
you know what we should do. This is something we
did last year at Ade. We did an exclusive only
set only. I think the venue only fitted about one
hundred people and were playing all only unreleased stuff. We
should do this with our first records, and I think
that it will start crowded, but before the hour is over,
(08:42):
everybody will be gone. It's like everybody's first records are horrible.
There's nobody who creates something great from the start. You
gotta start somewhere absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a process.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Now, you guys have had so many songs on the radio,
including end of Time.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I'm your new number one. Do you remember the first
time hearing your song on the radio?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yes, yes I do. My car broke down.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
It was in the car, it broke down, and then
some kind of how do you say it?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It was like the first aid kit.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
On the on the wounds, not the real wound, but yeah,
you know what I mean, the mental wounds of your
broken car and waiting for you know, help to arrive
in everything.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And our song came on radio.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It was amazing, Wow, that makes everything better.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Totally. I didn't I didn't give anything about you know,
the car breaking.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I was like, whatever, my song's on the radio. I'm fine.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
That is so amazing. It's totally kiss met.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah it is, isn't it? Now?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Finally in honor of end of time, going number one.
It's got the lyrics I want to hold you till
the end of time besides your wife? What is the
first thing you want to hold till the end of time?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And a little apprecid before we were talking on air, right,
I showed you my dog.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Dude, I totally get it.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I don't think I need to say.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
More, absolutely not, because I would say my fir child
Tucker absolutely, I totally get it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
They're the best.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Like I said, I wish I was at home right now,
just so I could have Tucker with me.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Here.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Let's talk about this smash. How was End of Time born?
With Laurent and Jordan Shaw?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, so it's quite incredible and also like a lesson
in making music in a sense that we've been working
with Jordan, like for years and years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
We already made some tunes, never released those.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You know, sometimes you reopen the project and then it's
totally there and you're like it's interesting, but it's you know,
it's just not there yet, but you're still like you
really enjoyed the session, and you're looking back at somebody
who's incredibly talented and skilled. And at some point we
you know, we got this call. I think Laurent he
(11:06):
gave us a heads up, like we started something really cool.
So with Jordan, I know, you guys know Jordan, and
we heard that first demo and the first thing before
the thing was like like a full project, like the
first lines and the first melody.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I was like, wow, we need to finish this.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And now we got back in the studio like all
together and we you know, started finishing it up and
it became like a whole song, became a tune it
and yeah, I really felt with this one the magic
was there really really quickly. And yeah, and that's incredible.
And the lesson that we learned from that is like,
even if you haven't had a hit with somebody yet,
(11:42):
but if you as long as you've had that first
great studio vibe, I'm really sure you can make absolutely
great music that you're really proud of a really really
happy way, just you know, keep on grinding.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So how different was the final project from the demo
that they started?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
In essence, you always like keep the really really good
stuff and the things that they started. These guys there
talent is really really impressive. So we kept those things
and you know, started working around it do sound design.
I think we switched up the tempo, you know a
little bit like it were kind of thorough changes. But
on the other hand, like the really strong stuff that
(12:20):
it already did, you know, you absolutely have to keep
that in there, and we started to build. So it's, yes,
it's quite different, but you know, I got to respect
these guys for the work.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
They already did. It was absolutely incredible, great great songwriters.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yeah, you could tell. The bones of it are just
so good.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Now, something I love to find out is how many
different v's there are of a song, from when you
start working on it, all the tweaking that goes on
to when you finally put it out mastered.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Do you remember what the final V was of End
of Time?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, I'm looking it up right now on my laptop.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I kind of felt this one coming to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I love finding out like the process of producers.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, but you know, sometimes it's will be. Actually we
never end up with V two or something. It's we
were always making things complicated and sometimes a little too complicated.
So yeah, let me see if I can find it.
I can find V six year, I see the thirteen
(13:25):
at least, so and then I'm not even talking about,
you know, is mixing and mastering and everything. This is
just like the setting it up, getting the arrangement right, songwriting,
like sound design, it's a it's.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
A it's an ongoing process, yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, even if you think you've nailed it and you've
found the right sounds, that you listen to it again,
maybe in your car or a different system. Besides for
our studio, and you get inspired again and you think
you can beat what you already had, and that's how
you get at least thirteen versions.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I think we had a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Yeah, Now, how long ago did you guys start working
on it?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Oh, I think that was. It went quite quick. I
think by the end of last year. And that is
quite quick. Actually, we've had songs that we've worked on
for I don't know at least started like years ago
and then Yeah, sometimes it just takes time.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It also has to do with it always has to
do with timing. Right if you feel like the.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Song, the sound is the right sound for right now,
then you you know you just got to release it
as soon as possible. And the fact that it hit
number one and America's Dance thirty, I think it was
the right time.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Absolutely, congratulations on that.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And then of course you've got your other release with Tiesto.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Tell us about that smash.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yes, So this is something we've been working on for
a long.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Time, that we've played at ady E last year, and
all of a sudden we got this message from Est
texting us and this was like a super early stage
of the record.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's like guys, what is this?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I gotta have it, and we're like, it's all ready
to play yet you know, it's still you know, we
were just seizing it. We only have one drop that
doesn't even have a break. It's like yeah, yeah, but yeah,
so as do you want to work on it together?
So we sent him stamps, went back and forth, went
to the studio together, and then yeah, no, it's it's
finally out records called Zendless really creates a club tune.
(15:40):
I see it, Yes, playing it all the time right now,
and we of course also have in our sets. It's
also the anthem of a very big computer game right
now called Zendless Zone zero. I think about forty five
million people subscribe to the game in advance before it
was released, so it's it's crazy numbers and it's really
hard to grasp what's all happening, but it's yeah, it's
(16:02):
a huge thing, and.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
That's got to be a good feeling getting a text
from Tiesto saying, hey, what is this?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
We're really we're quite close and we're texting about all
kinds of stuff and good music and going back and forth.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But this is what went super natural, Like it was.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Like, wow, what's that now, let's talk about are you
ready with Laura White?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
How was that song born?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
This started I think around the same period. Also last
year we played a version. The first version that we
played was at New Year's Eve in this legendary club
in Germany called Boats House. I'm not sure if you've
ever heard of it. It's crazy, like, the crowd is insane,
the club's beautiful, the sound is great, it has everything.
(16:49):
And we used this tune because it was that euphoric.
We use it for the countdown at twelve o'clock and
we were like, just let's test it out and we
played that instrum mental. There was no vocal yet from Laura,
and we got so many messages after like what was
that song?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I need to have it? When is it released? Will
it be released? Like so many questions.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So we decided to We've worked with Laura before and
she's incredible, and I gave her acall and said check
this out.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
What do you think.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
She's like, yeah, I'm vibing to do this straight away,
got a lot of ideas and then we had this
online studio session. Two days later, she sent us the
vocal stamps. We made this ghost folk kind of choir
together that worked really well for it. And really this
record is all about the good vives. Even if you
don't have vocals on it, it will still make people
(17:41):
dance and smile and you know, raise our hands up
in the air and just be in the moment.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And that's what this one is all about.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So we also we thought with Laura, we really want
to have this these lyrics about it. I mean, it's
simple but effective. Are you ready for the good times?
And that kind of says it all.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
It really is just a feel good song, which is
what we need right now. So congratulations on that release
as well.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Lucas.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
It is always great seeing you and catching up with you.
Thank you so much for your time with us on
America's Dance thirty.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Awesome, thank you so much for having us. Good to
be back after two years.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Absolutely, let's not make it that long next time.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Absolutely, let's do that. We promise to turn up the
frequency notch and be back soon. America's answer counting down
the biggest dance songs in the country.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
AM America's Dance thirty
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