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May 19, 2025 16 mins
Celebrating their latest smash "Vertigo", Zack from Zeds Dead joined us for the first time on America's Dance 30! He shared how the song was born, how long ago they started working on it, and why it took so long to come out. He also talked what's next for Zeds Dead!

We also got to know Zeds Dead better w #FinkysFirsts!!

Find out about:
  • if music was the first thing Zack wanted to get into
  • if 'Zeds Dead' was their first choice for an artist project name after switching from the name 'Mass Productions'
  • the first moment he realized they were getting popular outside of Canada
  • the first thing that makes him dizzy

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Zach.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
I don't know what's been going on, but lately I've
had to apologize to my guests here on America's Dance thirty,
and I think I need to apologize to you. But
first of all, Zach, Zed's Dead, Welcome to America's Dance
thirty for the first time.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
What's up everyone?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Counting down the biggest dance songs in the country. This
is America's Dance thirty.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
It is an honor finally meeting you now before we
chat all about your smash Vertigo, and before we get
to know Zed's Dead a little better.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Do you know why I need to apologize to you?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Uh, you've been saying the name of the album wrong.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Wait what what have I been saying wrong?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
What is Zech?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Guess?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
No, So a couple of weeks ago, I got a
random text from a phone number that wasn't in my contacts,
and all the text said was Yo, what's up at Zach?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
From Zed's Dead? How's it going?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I was wondering if you checked out our track Vertigo,
and it had a Spotify link and all I did
was reply Hi, Zach with a laughing emoji, because in
this day.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
And age of spoof texts.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm like, there's no way Zed's dead is texting me.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Was it you or was it the label?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
No, that was me, you know, doing my part to
beg you to play our song. I first do anything.
I don't care. You're like, this song has a chance.
So I was like, give me his number.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, I really appreciate that, and I apologize for somewhat
blowing you off.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Like I said, I thought it was the label texting me.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I told him it was like anything you need to
me to do, and I mean anything.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, I really appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Zach, congratulations on this smash Vertigo.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Thank you. I just find that the process is very
hands off for me when it comes to like promoting
songs like they they'll be like, oh, we're trying to
get people put this in playlists and stuff, and I
was thinking, I was like, I never like hit people
up personally. I was like, maybe I need to do
this more.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I don't know, well as a programmer, I will say
I appreciate that it's awesome getting a personal text, but
it was just so out of the blue.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I had no idea.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I didn't know what your text either. I was just like,
maybe that's all I need to do well.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I can't wait to talk about how this song was born,
but first let's get to know Z's dead a little better.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
With Finkey's first. Okay, you don't seem confident about that,
you go bad.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
So I always love finding out the origin story of artists.
When you were growing up, was music the first thing
that you wanted to get into or was there something
else you wanted to be when you were growing up?

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, there was a number of things. I was very
into graffiti and art and I would do that a lot,
and I wasn't I didn't know where that was going
to head. I mean, I took some typography classes and
web design. I thought maybe some of the graphic design
stuff could translate. I was really into the idea of

(03:33):
making like sketch comedy or like or like movies or
you know. I'd shoot videos with my friends, a lot
of which unfortunately are lost, which sucks. But yeah, So
I went to school for like communications and at the
same time I was making music, and I'd been making
music for like years before that, but basically the music

(03:56):
thing kind of we our man sort of cold called
all these people in the UK to try and get
us bookings, and he sort of put together this this
tour for us, and it was right around when like
the exam time was and I just never went and
then never went back to school.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, I'm glad it parlaid into music.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, I mean, I've been making I was making music throughout,
like I don't know when I started. I was, I
was a teenager. I started playing guitar, and then I
got garage band right around when that came out, and
and yeah, then met Dylan and uh, he was using

(04:42):
fruity loops and then I switched to that and uh
and yeah. Then we started a project together called Mass Productions,
and we were making like hip hop records, and I
was around like two thousand and five or something, and
then two thousand and eight or nine, I think when
we started getting into electronic music and doing Zed's Dead.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, congratulations on just recently celebrating fifteen years of Zed's Dead.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Now it's well known that the name Zed's Dead comes
from a line in pulp fiction, But you mentioned Mass
Productions when you were making the switch to another name.
Was Zed's Dead the first choice or were there other
names you were considering.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
It was It basically just happened out of one brainstorm session.
I mean there's other people had suggested a few names,
but nothing was you know, compelling. It sort of came
out of thinking of names that had the letter Z
and the letter D and I was sort of just
saying them fast, like Zach Dlan and it was just

(05:50):
like Zed's Dead, and I'm like, oh, we both really
liked that movie. And it kind of I mean the
movie and like Quentin Tarantino in his way of sort
of like paying homage to older movies and that kind
of sampling and the music selections. I feel like, actually,
you know, it had a lot to do with what

(06:10):
we did, you know, moving forward as well, and even
now so.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well, it's such an iconic name. I'm glad you guys
decided on it. Now.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I knew that we're going to get along well because
you guys are from Toronto.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I was actually born in Montreal.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Do you remember the first time realizing that you guys
were getting popular outside of Canada, you know, in the
States and around the around the world.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
I mean, we got posted on some some YouTube accounts
and some blogs and stuff that was sort of a realization.
There were a few moments, I mean like the Eyes
on Fire track blowing up. You know, we were just
like watching the numbers go up, and it was like
when it hit like a million and then like ten million,

(06:54):
and that was, you know, crazy. Like the first time
we went to Denver was interesting because it was like
I didn't know anything about the city and it was
the probably the biggest show of that tour, which is
pretty small at the time, but they were singing along
to everything and that was unusual and I was like, oh,
we actually have like people that know these songs, like

(07:17):
a lot of them. I mean, just being able tour
the States. I was feeling like something was going well.
And then even before that, we had a weekly party
we would throw or a bi weekly party called base Mentality,
And when we did the first show, like no one
was there. Like the second show and I like hardly
any people. But like after a few months and us

(07:42):
putting some tracks out, like it would be lined up
down the block and like we had to move to
a bigger venue. So that was kind of They're all
like little moments where you have like kind of a
realization that.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Something's happening, that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well, in fifteen plus years of Z's Dead, you guys
have obviously it had some amazing songs. Do you remember
the first time hearing one of your songs on the radio?

Speaker 3 (08:07):
I mean it would have been on BBC. This DJ
kissy Cello was a fan of ours and he had
a show on BBC and he was playing our stuff.
And then we found out like Scream played something on
the radio, and then like Diplo played something on the radio,

(08:29):
and I didn't actually hear those live, but like I
heard about them. We Lost You is probably the only
song of ours that got significant radio play, which interesting,
I mean, like we have, like we do pretty big
shows and we have almost no radio songs. I always
thought that was pretty interesting and unexpected. But yeah, we don't.

(08:52):
We don't really like we never really make songs with
that in mind. Also, but Lost You, for whatever reason,
started getting significant support, and I remember, like, you know,
hearing it in the car and stuff. That was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, let's hope Vertigo changes all that for you. Finally,
in Finkey's first in honor of this smash Vertigo, what's
the first thing that makes you dizzy?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Getting out too fast.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Is a fact complete side note. I don't know if
you know this, and I found out the hard way.
Did you know that guys can suffer from something when
you get up too fast to go to the bathroom,
that you can pass out?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
No, I don't know. I mean I have passed out
once or twice.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well, it happened to me.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
And when I went to the doctor and I told them,
you know, I was getting up in the middle of
the night and I just got up and went to
the bathroom and I actually passed out. They told me
that there's actually a condition that when guy get up
too fast. Now, I actually when I wake up, I
have to sit at my bed for like five seconds
just to chill and then get off.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
It's insane.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
It's a good decision, yes, absolutely, better safe than sorry.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I don't need my cat having to call nine to
one one for me. Let's exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Let's talk about this smash. How was Verdigo Borne.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, we had this this beat bit we liked and
we wanted. We knew it was the sort of beat
that needed a vocal and then we happened to be
in the studio with Naomi Wilde and she liked it
and she started writing to it. We were kind of
collaborating a little on the lyrics with her, and it

(10:47):
was a cool process, you know, just like we wrote
that whole song that day and recorded it and it
really didn't change that much from the studio session, Like
we added like a little guitar to it, but it
was it's kind of like an indie rock sort of
feeling track with a little electronic feel. And we tried
doing it in a bunch of different ways after that

(11:07):
because we were wondering, you know, if it would sound
better maybe like as a house song or like an
electro track, and you know, we just kept coming back
to the first version. So that's sort of how it happened.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Well, she sounds amazing on it. How long ago did
you guys start working on it?

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, it feels like that was a long time. That
was one of the older written songs from the album.
It was always like in the back of playlists of
an eventual album for a long time, and it actually
just made it all the way. I want to say
we recorded that in like twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Should up. Oh my god, that's insane.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
It could have been twenty twenty one. But I have
to I have to double check. You know, I really
should have researched this.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Normally I'm the one that says that.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Like we kept feeling like maybe it could be better
or something like it. We knew it had a lot
of potential and we loved it. But sometimes when something
has so much potential, you can never stop like scratching
that itch of like can I you know, like does

(12:15):
it fulfill its potential? Does it need like another hook,
does it need like another does it need to drop
or something like, you know, like all these questions. So
then we basically like went down all of those avenues
to satisfy those curiosities and came back and were like
the original is the best one, Like there's none of
these versions are better.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
So now, do you guys have a lot of songs
that you hold on to for a long time?

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yes, I mean we have songs that are so that
have been around for a really long time. There's sort
of like a limit. I feel like after about ten years,
they slowly they start to they start to leave my memory.
And then and playlists and you know, there's very few

(13:02):
of the really old ones that are that are still
in the mix. Some of them are in like a
playlist for something that's like a lost tapes we did
where its like beats that never they never came out,
that are old because something sound dated to me and
they're not exciting anymore. I tend to get excited about

(13:22):
something that I'm working on now, but then like, you know,
you need to finish stuff that you still think is
good and try to put out your best work.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Gotcha, Well, congratulations on Vertigo. You know you mentioned the
album that just came out back in March. You guys
are on your North American tour right now. What else
is going on for Zed's Dead?

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, I mean like we've been working like round the
clock for the last couple of years to make the
best album that we could and to finish it and
to make that movie that went along with it, and
you know the live show that we do. So right
now I'm kind of just figuring out what to do

(14:05):
next and enjoying a little bit of time after the album.
I've been working on some music, but mostly for the show.
You know. I feel like it's kind of like during
the week thinking about the show that we're going to
play the next weekend and how we can make that
more unique, and like for we just played in Toronto

(14:26):
and we made like a very Toronto specific intro song.
They had like all the names of the streets and
areas and stuff. So it's kind of like very show
focused and we're trying to see what more live instrumentation
we can bring to the show because it was all

(14:47):
kind of like like we you know, we started the
tour and we had basically like a week in between,
like week or two in between finishing the album and
figuring out what the show show was going to be.
But you know, we still had a lot of ammo
from our live show that we've been developing for years.

(15:09):
But we just want to make it a little more
like album focus and have some more routines that highlight
the songs on the album.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Well, congratulations on everything that's been going on for Zed's Dead.
Before I let you go, We've got a new feature
on America's Dan's thirty where I ask chat Ept a
question that Zed's Dead has never been asked before, and
it's funny, it's spit back. That's going to be tough
because they've been asking a lot of questions. If your
baselines could physically manifest into creatures, what would the creatures

(15:40):
look like, and how dangerous would they be.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
I'm immediately thinking like some sort of lizard for some reason.
I'm going with the first thought that came to my head,
and they would be pretty pretty dangerous. I'm thinking venomous,
potentially lethal. I'm going to need to suck the blood
out of.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Here, but only out of your foot. Zach Z's dead.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Thank you so much for your time with us on
America's Dance thirty.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Thank You. America's Dance thirty counting down the biggest dance
songs in the country. America's Dance thirty
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