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August 4, 2025 17 mins
Celebrating ANOTHER #1 on the dance charts, the amazing HAYLA joins us again on America's Dance 30 to chat all things "In My Arms"! She shares how the smash was born w ILLENIUM, how long they started working on it, what the meaning of the song is, and how her & ILLENIUM got together for the song.

HAYLA also shares which type of performance is tougher for her; full-on performances w DJs or stripped down performances of her songs. And she answers a question she has never been asked before!

We also get to know HAYLA better w #FinkysFavorites!!

Find out about:
  • her favorite thing to do before performing
  • her favorite studio snack
  • her favorite thing on her rider
  • her favorite overused emoji
  • her favorite place to go to be alone

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There she is.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hi, I'm so sorry, I just had a bit of
a problem trying to get in.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
Then how are you?

Speaker 1 (00:06):
How dare you be two minutes late?

Speaker 4 (00:08):
Sorry?

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hala?

Speaker 4 (00:11):
It makes my heart so happy to see you again.
Welcome back to America's Dance thirty.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Oh, thank you so much for having me. It's so
lovely to see you as well.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
We have got a lot to catch up on.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
We're gonna be chatting all about your smash in my
Arms with a Millennium. We're also going to get to
know Hala a little better again with Thinky's Favorites. Possibly
ask you a question you have never been asked before.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I know, I know. We've got a lot to talk about, Hala.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
I'm ready for it. Counting down the biggest dance songs
in the country.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
This is America's Dance thirty. First, I'm kind of curious.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
So recently you performed for the first time in Ibitha
with Kaig and then again with Medusa, and then you
also just recently did an acoustic set at Electric Forest.
Do you find it easier or harder to perform the
fully produced versions of songs or the stripped down versions

(01:26):
of songs?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Do you know what. That's actually a really good question.
I think in different ways.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I mean, obviously I enjoy both, but I know that
when you do the acoustic versions, definitely a lot more exposing,
you know, and it does. I absolutely love performing with
just a piano, like in a strip back way. It's incredible.
But I think because you can hear literally everything, there's nothing,
there's nowhere to hide. So I think, yeah, so I

(01:53):
think for the fact that it's a bit more exposing,
I would say that that is the more I suppose
emotional kind of difficult one because I think, oh, you know,
but I do enjoy both, but I think for the
for both, considering both of them, I would say that probably, yeah,
it's it's a lot more daunting to do the acoustic.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
A couple of things.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
First of all, you have nothing to worry about hiding
in anything, because we all know how insanely talented you are,
so that shouldn't be even a thought in your head. Secondly,
I would think that performing with a DJ would be
a little harder because there's spaces where you're not necessarily singing,
so you got to fill that space with doing something

(02:40):
on stage.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Do you know what I when I first started performing,
I found that, like my arms became an issue.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I'd be a bit like what to do now I've
got these things? You know, I did not be like
what you are right?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
To be honest, if I think about that, am I
either like, oh, shall I do it a lot?

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Or hype up the crowd?

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Or or just yes, all right, van a white over here. Well,
don't even think about it, because all of your performances
are absolutely amazing. I can't wait to talk about how
this smash was born with a llennium. But first, let's

(03:22):
get to know Hala again with Thinky's favorites. Yes, so
what is Hala's favorite thing to do before performing?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Oh, drinking a lot of throat coat.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Very boring, That is very smart.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, absolutely, Now I don't know if this is going
to be along the same lines.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
But what is Hala's favorite studio snack?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Oh, that's a really good question. Actually, I love an oreo.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh my god, I would have never guessed that.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
I know that. I know it's probably not the most
single friendly.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Snack, you know, because you've got to eat, like give
me like five minutes and like, yeah, but what else?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
What else? Oh? I love like yeah, I don't know
any sort of crisps or.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Chips, gotcha. Now back to the oreos, double stuffed or normal.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Oh, if I can get double stuff, I tell you. You know,
more is.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
More, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Now, I don't know if you have Oreos on your rider,
but a lot of artists, you know, put stuff on
their rider that they don't use. But what is something
that's on Halo's rider that is your favorite that you
absolutely use?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh honestly, I mean it kind of probably goes back
to the herbal tea. But other than that, really I
love a non alcoholic.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Beer, very good choice.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, it's like a little bit refreshing, kind of like
you know, but it just sort of yeah, it's just
quite nice.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
After a gig just to have like a nice yeah
that or diet coke.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Now, I know it's not along the same lines of
non alcoholic beer. But have you ever tried ginger beer?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I have, actually, yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
It's so good.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, it's like ginger ale ginger beer.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
But it's more pungent than ginger ale, so it's like
it's definitely strong. So the way I got introduced to
it was I was having stomach issues at a gig
one time, and I went to the bar and I
asked for ginger ale and they didn't have it, and
they said, we have ginger beer.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
I'm like, okay, you literally pop open the.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Can and it's like, oh oh, it is like ginger
on steroids. You have to if you if you don't
necessarily remember it, go back and try it.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, I mean also as well, I think maybe I should, yeah,
ask for that on my riding next.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
If for seeing before I see before a gig and
I'm just having me.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Like, and You'll have to report back to us and
let us know what you thought.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, I will, I'll make notes.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Now, what is what is Hala's favorite over used emoji?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I think it's definitely the like like like rying eyes,
you know, like but I love you know, the.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Little little hearts as well. I think definitely.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
You know, I'm going to screenshot your face doing that
and put it next to an emoji of that, right,
or just use.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
That as my emojis from now on? Yes, well I can't. Well.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Finally, in Thinky's favorites in honor of in my Arms.
You know it has the lyrics if you're tired of
being alone. I'll take you where you want to go.
Where's Hala's favorite place to go when you want to
be alone?

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Oh? I love going down to the beach.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
That is everything about it is just perfect, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Isn't it? And do you know what?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I think it's really important for everyone, like, you know,
to see the edge of something like kind of like
the ocean and just the horizon. And I think it's
really I don't know, it's just it clears my brain
so much, and I just feel like the air is
so clear as well.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
So I love that.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
But I wasn't even thinking of the aspect of seeing
the edge, which is brilliant as well. I was thinking
more of like the sounds and how soothing and peaceful
everything is.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Well that too, all of it.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, well, let's talk about this smash and how two
power houses came together. How was in my Arms born
with a Llennium?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Honestly, I mean it was a top line that was
written with some incredible writers alongside you know, Annium's production.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
It was one of those tracks.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
That really I felt like, again wanted to write something
that really resonated with people, you know that maybe felt
like they had in somebody a kind of safe space
or wants to be somebody's safe space. In my arms
is all about that electricity when you're with somebody that
you feel really at homeward, and it's the sparks you
feel bubbling under your skin when you're together, and also
being that person's safe space whenever they need it, a

(07:56):
home for them whenever they need it as well. So
if you're tired of being alone, if you need a
heart to hold, I'll take you where you want to go.
It's in my arms.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
I love that. I love that so much.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
So I like, yeah, I just hope that, you know,
people feel like music can be a home too. But yeah,
this is actually like for me as well, working with
a Lenium with the production style, working in a sort
of more I suppose base setting in the drop in
the chorus, it was really fun to explore that kind
of you know, production over the vocal and sing along

(08:30):
with that sort of style as well. You know, so,
but it was Yeah, it was one of those songs
that I just think it really felt like it, I
don't know, it just felt really organic and just really
naturally flowing.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
That's awesome. Well, when I heard that you guys were
going to be doing a song together. It stopped me
in my tracks because just the two of you coming together.
And then when I yell it played it for me,
I'm like, oh my god, this is gold.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
So congratulations on it.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Thank you so much, and it's amazing, like you know,
yeah with yeah, the writers that we did, and like,
you know, just to have the track out now, I
think all of us are just over the moon.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Well, how long ago did you guys start working on it?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Honestly, probably about was it nearly a year ago?

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Something like that. You know, it's funny, you know, I think,
I mean, am I wrong? It could be. I feel
like it's one of those.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Tracks that I don't know how many versions there were,
But we as soon as it sort of kind of
came into you know, this is going to be the
track that's coming out.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I think it was just lining up schedules and yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
But I honestly, yeah, I was quietly aware that this
was coming out.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I'm very excited for it.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
And how did you and Millennium come together for it?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Well, we actually, like we met, when did we first meet?
We met a while ago.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
But then basically the top line kind of came over
when we met in his studio in Denver as well,
and yeah, we've just sort of worked over the airwaves,
worked in person and just gone yeah through the track,
so like slowly but surely ended up with it like this.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
So yeah, now we all know that you have been
working with some incredible names and big time producers and
everything in your history so far. When you go into
a new session with somebody that you necessarily haven't worked
with in the past, is it nerve wracking or does
it just flow?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
It's a really good question, you know.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think that sometimes sometimes it's I have to get
up my own way, I think, you know, because I
can definitely overthink, and I think that ultimately everybody that's
one thing.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I suppose everybody's just a person at the end of
the day. And I have to.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Remind myself of that because I do sometimes get, you know,
a bit nervous because you think, oh, you know, meeting
for the first time, performing for the first time, you know, actually,
is it Yeah, how how is it going to be?
You know, because obviously, yeah, you always want to impress
somebody and hope that things, you know, turn out well,
especially performing together for the first time. That's that's something

(11:09):
that always, Yeah, apart from meeting and writing and getting
everything together and stuff, I always I try and yeah,
just keep as.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Relaxed as possible.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I'm an overthinker club too, I'm such an overthinker honestly. Yeah, so,
I yeah, genuinely. I just think everybody I've worked with,
though ever in the studio being on stage with them
have been so amazing, and it's just been incredible to
be I don't know, I suppose I've had introductions and

(11:41):
visions into loads of different producers and DJs worlds, you know,
so I've kind of got little snapshots of how different
teams work and what their kind of goals and aspirations
are I suppose, and what they're working towards. And I
just think it's fascinating, really, I kind of yeah, just
seeing into these different pockets of these incredible DJs and
producers and being able to be a little.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Part of that.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'm sure you could write a book about it.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I mean probably the memoirs.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Well.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Listen, as a as a fellow overthinker, I know this
advice isn't going to mean anything, because no matter what
anybody says to us. We always overthink, but I will
tell you this, I'm sure it's the exact same on
their end as well. Working with you for the first time,
I'm sure they're nervous is held too. So I don't

(12:33):
know if that will help any but next time you
go into a session, just know that you're not the
only one.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh, I mean, you know, I think like that's the thing,
isn't it. You know what it's like everybody's It's like sounder,
isn't it that word? It's like everybody's life is as
complex as each other's, and it's like so many things
are probably going on in everybody's heads, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
So annoying.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I know, I wish I could.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
It's like exactly, you're not disturbed.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
What a beautiful day like severance.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
We should be severed.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Soon, isn't that?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Have you not watched season one or season two?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I've seen season one, season two out.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Oh, season two is out and you have to watch it. Okay,
I know you've been a little busy, nook.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Okay, I know what I've got. I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
So now you've got two things to report back to
us on ginger beer and Severn season two. I will
I will well, Hala, congratulations on the incredible success of
In My Arms.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm so happy for you guys.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Thank you so much, honestly, and thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
For having me absolutely Now, before I let you go,
I asked chat Ept to give me a question that
Hala has never been asked before.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
So I got to test this out.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
All right, Okay, let's give it a go.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, So, with.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Your songs being so emotional, have you ever written anything
that made you cry while you were writing it?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
And did you leave the tears in when you performed
and recorded it?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh, that's actually like, that's a really good question.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, I mean I thought of it, not chet Ept, No,
I mean so.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Like to be really honest about things. Another World is
kind of a little bit about my mum and yeah,
oh she got ill at the time when we wrote
that song, and it was kind of one of those
songs actually like whether I I don't think on the

(14:32):
day that I ended up kind of being upset when
I was recording it, but on the first listen back
after I got.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
The bounce, I was kind of like, oh, I bet so.
I have never told anybody that as well, So yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I know I told you in the past, but my condolence.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Is, oh, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
And when do you find it hard singing it live?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
It can be a little bit hard, Yeah, I think
just if I if I think about it, I mean, actually,
he's a funny little fact for you. At the first
time I was in Abitha, we wrote Another World. And
the second time I was in Abitha was this weekend
and I performed it for the first time in high
in Abitha with Medusa. Wow. So it was kind of

(15:13):
like a bit of a full circle moment and I
did at the time, I was like.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, you know, oh man, and you know, I gotta
tell you. I don't know how singers do it. I know,
it becomes like muscle memory. But like when I listen
to my favorite James Taylor or Air Supply or Bonnie Tyler,
those depressing songs, like I start tearing up and I
didn't even write the damn song.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, I do. You know.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
It's so interesting, isn't it, Because I think like powerful
songwriters it there, like James Taylor, what an absolute legend
like in songwriting and a voice as well. I think
that you know that kind of way to be able
to emote in a way that connects like that.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
And then disconnect when you're performing it kind of because
you can't like break down in the middle. I mean,
obviously it makes for an incredible performance, but you can't
go breaking down all the time.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Oh, I know, because could you imagine I'd need to
be like give me like five.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I mean, you know, I've I've had moments where I
felt like oh and I felt like a lump starting
to come into my throat a little bit, and I've
been like, you know, take it on. I think what
happens in a kind of not an unsoulless way, but
I think what happens sometimes is that if that happens,
it's like you have to gearshift into like a different
zone almost. It's kind of like, even though the song

(16:31):
resonates and it is something that's very you know, connected
to me, I kind of like end up thinking like, oh,
I'm just going to push out the positive emotion, right,
And I sort of see it as like a film
going over the audience like in a positive.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Like Oh, that's an amazing way to do it.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, sort of switch try and switch it a bit.
But I'm like.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Oh yeah, I can imagine. Well, congratulations on everything going
on for you. Like I said, it is always so
awesome to see you and catch up with you.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh, Brian, honestly, thank you so much for having me.
It's so nice just talk to you again and see you.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
And yeah, absolutely, thank you so much for your time
with us on America's Dance thirty.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Oh, thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
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