Man sets himself on fire outside the Trump trial

Episode Transcript

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I'm not gonna stop you from beingyou, but I I am. You're
under surveillance. Let's say it.That one. Oh it's just like this,
like this look like my first strike. Do I gotta go see HR?

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no because if you see HR,then they're gonna ask me why I sent
you to HR. And I'm justtoo embarrassed to say I don't. We
don't need HR for this. Thisis a public like this is a court
of public opinion. And I ambizarre and and I don't know that that
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down the hatch. All right,some news. We got to get to
bottom of the hour. We're goingto open it up for the phones.
Uh. Something that's been happening earlythis afternoon is there was a fire in

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New York NYPD was was there untilthe fire? It's very strange. They're
like where you might be thinking,why is this fire so strange? Well,
it was in Uh it was rightnext to where this Donald Trump trials

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taking place. Did you see this? Did you see this? Matt Matthew,
did you see this? Oh?I'm just seeing it now. Yeah,
okay, all right, so Ihave the details here they're talking about
it online. We don't need tolisten to anything that you're talking about here.
I'm just going to tell you whathappened. A man set himself on
fire at a protest outside the courthousewhere former President Trump is, you know,

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wrapping up jury selection and going tostart his trial. Yeah, this
is a new term. Have youheard of the term self immolated? The
man self immolated in the protest areaabout thirty feet from the courthouse. Us

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self immolated context clews that is,set himself on fire, self immolation,
act of setting oneself on fire.There it is there you go. The
self immolation takes place about thirty feetfrom the courthouse. Now, as you

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can tell, you probably guess there'squite a few people of notes that are
going to be near this courthouse forobvious reasons throughout this trial, because this
certainly will not be the last protestthat I'm sure is going to happen in
this vicinity. But police threw blanketsover the man in an attempt to extinguish
the flames, and he is incritical condition. We do not know his

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we don't know his name. Somy question, Matt, I'll start with
you. We can talk about thisman lights himself on fire in protest.

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Does Does that make you feel acertain way about the protest? No,
makes me feel for him. Theremust be some sort of serious issues going
on with him to do something sohorrible. He's not the first person to
do this. I mean people havedone this before. Yeah, they have
done this before. There are someiconic ones too, like ones that somebody

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took a picture of a guy likein the process of doing that, and
one like a pulitzer or something.Yeah, they said the flames got up
to fifteen feet high, by theway. So you know, I don't

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know what really to say about it, other than the fact that is there
another president in the history of thiscountry that people would have set themselves on
fire rather than like, like likethis set themselves on fire instead of I

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guess, not set themselves on fire. I don't know, and I'm not
one hundred percent sure of the natureof the protests at this point. Is
this done about like this couldn't beabout Israel and uh in Iran? Right,

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I mean, Donald Trump has nothingto do with that. I guess
it could be because there's a lotof attension there, or maybe this is
a strategic thing because like, Wow, this guy really is crazy. He
set himself on fire, but hedid it in a place where he certainly
was going to have the fire putout very quickly, so he was he
was not going to die potentially,and maybe he still will. I don't
know. Wow, Yeah, Idon't know. I'll be honest, Matt.

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I don't think anybody's gonna talk aboutwhat the protest was about about this,
do we know? Well, I'mguessing it's anti Trump. Is there
a Trump supporter that that would setthemselves on fire? That seems like something
the other side would do you think? Yeah, I think there's crazy people
all over the place. Yeah,but I'm sorry, I just like,

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Okay, I'm gonna get a lotof flak for this if I'm going too
far. You got the dumb buttonready, Okay? I hate this game.
By the way, I think peopleon the right political right, they're

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they don't go meta with their protesting. It's kind of old fashioned protesting,
you know. January sixth is likean extreme example, right, Like that
was like pretty in your face,straightforward. They're not trying to be like
super like like the people in Colombiathat are protesting against the Israel stuff.

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The anti Israel people. They're protestingby occupying a lawn on an Ivy League
school. They put tents out andhave been camping there until they were actively
removed. It was like a sitin, except intents outside on the campus
of Columbia University. You know whatI mean. People on the political right,
like they don't do stuff like that. You know what. They weigh

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flags, they wave flags, theyyell at people, and they might mix
it up a little bit, ifyou want to mix it up. I
would be very surprised at this wasa pro Trump person that decided that they
wanted to do this, But Icould be wrong. I don't know for
sure. The police department and thefire department are speaking right now. The

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reason we're not listening to it iswe have no idea what the questions are
that they're getting and I can't controlthat. I'm gonna control what I can
control, which is my show.But certainly because this is happening early in
the show and they're not just now, you know, talking to the press
in New York. We're gonna dothe best that we can to We're gonna
want to do the best that wecan to give you these updates as more

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information is found out. But prettywild stuff. Man setting himself on fire
outside the courthouse of the Donald Trumptrial. I again, yeah, it's
pretty pretty wild to even say thatsentence out loud. Two eighteen is the
time. We'll continue this conversation ifyou got thoughts, calls four h two
five five eight eleven ten. FourO two five five eight eleven ten.

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We'll also talk about what happened inIran with Israel last night and what the
speculation was a little bit dangerous Ithink, speculation wise for in some regards,
and I'll explain myself on that aswell as the hour rolls on news
Radio eleven ten Kfab and Rie Songeron news Radio eleven ten Kfab. Man

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lights himself on fire outside Donald Trumpcourthouse. We don't know a whole lot
of anything beyond that. We knowthere was a protest taking place in the
vicinity, but again this is myWe're learning details as time goes on.
But again, I'm let's forget aboutthe protest for a second. We don't

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want to. I'm not talking aboutthat yet. We're gonna talk about that
later when we know for sure whatthe heck was going on. I want
to talk about what a newsperson doesin this scenario, because there were multiple
people who were on location at thecourthouse to cover the Trump trial. The
people who are there at the Trumptrial covering the news, some were live

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on camera when this happens feet fromthem, and the reporter I think this
is CNN. It is CNN.CNN was live from outside the courthouse when
this guy sets himself on fire thirtyfeet away from them, and she is
like in the process and I'll tryto get this audio because I haven't got

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a chance to listen to him,just seeing the uh, I'm just seeing
this come across my timeline here.But she's talking about something completely different within
the trial itself, reporting live fromthe side of the courthouse. And then
you just see her eyes like likesomething catches her eye, and then she

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stops what she's talking about and likestarts talking about what she's seeing, and
the camera like turns and tries tolike figure out what the heck is going
on. You can't really see isthat the right thing to do in that
spot on the fly, not knowinganything probably is Right's news. And then
you can like apologize for showing graphicstuff later, but they say, oh

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my gosh, there's a fire thatjust got started right over there, and
you didn't see that it was aperson setting themselves on fire. Was just
a fire, and the camera justkind of turns and tries to, you
know, see it, even though, like I said, you can't really
see it from their angle that it'sa dude. But I think once they
figured out it was a person,they turned the camera back around or not

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technically like what I would consider mastersof journalism on like a technical level,
but responsible, not responsible. What'sthe story there? I mean it was
happening while she was live on camera. Yeah, well, it's not like
she was going to be able toignore it, right. I think that

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if you're the camera man, you'regonna pan towards whatever one is looking and
pointing at. Right. I thinkthat's just instinctual, right, you know.
And then it does sound like oncethey figured out what the situation was,
they made a decision to say no, they put that they went back
to the reporter. Yeah, Idon't know. I mean, you know,
what is the decorum there, andand what is newsworthy? You know,

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where's that line at shoot? Theysay, if it bleeds, it
leads, right, that's but no, it's just news. Yeah, it's
news. I mean this is thebad news. Like, like, without
bad news, the news stations wouldgo out of business. They can't.
They can't run fluff all the timeand keep people interested. I mean,

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this is why all these national newsoutlets, especially really they eat it up
when there's any sort of bad newsabroad too, because it's like, hey,
this is content for us, andwe know people will be interested.
Israel sent a missile to Iran lastnight. I saw that pop up on

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my feed. You know what Idid. I flipped on the news.
And this is a lesson to belearned. We didn't know much because the
only thing that we knew was thatwere what they were calling semi professional like
not fully fledged, legitimate, provablejournalist outlets, but semi professional outlets reporting

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that they heard an explosion near Isfahanin Iran last night. And that's all
we knew. Obviously, everybody's like, that's Israel that did that, But
that's all we knew. So thenext like hour and a half of news
that I watched was pure speculation thatwas proven to be very different than what

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the facts ended up being when Iwoke up this morning. But that's what
the news has to like. Ithas to grab that while it's hot,
right, But gee, whiz man, that's crazy if you're just missing this.
Over the last hour, guy setshimself on fire near the courthouse that

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Donald trump is trial is going on, and we're trying to figure out what
the motive might be for this.Guys in critical condition. And yeah,
once we get more details on that, we'll let you out now. Speaking
of the details for Iran in Israel, last night, I'll be honest with
you, my heart sank when Iwas reading the details of this semi professional

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reporting that was being done in Iran, And this morning I felt much better
about kind of where we sit.I will explain why and what might be
next in the Middle East. We'lldo that next and I promise we'll have
a lot more fun later in theshow, talk about stuff that is fluff.
Because we like to laugh, welike to love, we like to

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I'm sure somebody does out there whilelistening to our show. It's a very
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you mean you can't do this tome, not on the air. What

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Son on news Radio eleven ten kfabI was saying, there's no way a

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right wing political figure is going toset himself on fire because I just don't
see somebody with the gumption who considersthemselves as a common sense person to think
that protesting is that they call themselvesthat. I'm not calling them that.
Who calls who? What? Peopleon the far right who are of the

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protesting ilk just like those on thefar left. They have different qualities about
them. The left like to callthemselves disruptors. They want to disrupt the
economy. That's what we saw atthe Brooklyn Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge.
They want to disrupt, they haveno problem. Would you call this
a tent in or a sit inor whatever? With the Columbia protests where

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they put one hundred tents on thelawn and they've been living in that waiting
for people to take them away.That stuff that you see over there on
the right, it's a little bitmore face to face, a little bit
more we're holding up signs, alittle bit more we're going to show up
and yell at you kind of thing. But you don't see people setting themselves

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on fire. I mean either direction, really, but the dis rupting kind
they seem to be willing to goa little further. The people on the
right who say there's a right anda wrong way to do everything. And
I'm not saying that that applies toeverybody, but generally speaking, you hear
the people on the right they say, well we've lost common sense. That's
a real rally and cry for peopleon the political right. And if you

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identify yourself as somebody who's politically rightand you say, hey, common sense,
I'm not sure how much common senseit is to set yourself on fire
for any reason whatsoever. We're findingthat out. Actually, the more that
we're learning about this man. Wegot his name because he had a pamphlet
that identified himself with his entire manifestonearby where he set himself on fire.

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He was prepared for all of this. His name is. He's been identified
by police as Max Azarello. I'mguessing this is one of the things that
they were talking about in this lengthypress conference that they had over the last
half hour. Max Azarello is fromyes, the state Florida. Florida man

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sets himself on fire in New YorkCity, not the most liberal state out
there. No, that's true.He describes himself online as an investigative researcher.
I don't know if that's a job, but that's what he calls himself.
I don't know if anybody else callshim that, but he calls himself

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that. He could call yourself anythingonline. He's a thirty seven year old
from Saint Augustine, Florida. Arrivedin New York last week. His family
says they had no idea he wasnot in Florida. He doubts himself in
gasoline before the fire began and thentossed the planmphlets into the air. He

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called them the Ponzi papers. Hejust fires them in the air. The
Ponzi papers say I have set myselfon fire outside of the Trump trial.
It takes you right there. Ittakes your right to his thing. And

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he has a two seven word postingthere that was ready to post for him.
When he sets himself on fire,you go to the website that he
has on his little pamphlet, andthat's the first thing that pops up.
He says, this is extreme activeProtestists is to draw attention to an urgent

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and important discovery. We are victimsof a totalitarian con our own government,
along with many of their allies,is about to hit us with an apocalyptic
fascist world cup. He is believedto be homeless. His profile picture is
with Bill Clinton, but he suedBill Clinton last year in a conspiracy theory

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tinged case with more than one hundredother individuals that was thrown out. He
was listed as the growth manager ofa nonprofit called Strong Towns. In twenty
seventeen, his name pops up asthe growth manager of a nonprofit called Strong
Towns. Not sure exactly what thatis, but in the blurb that he

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has he alludes to his childhood townbeing charming, friendly, eclectic community in
Long Island. He said this organization. In the organization's post, it said
his passions were chess, creative writing, and medieval Scandinavian poetry. Medieval Scandinavian
poetry, that was it. Thisis we're learning about this man right now.

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Apparently he had some very very sketchythings over the last few months on
his social media accounts. As well. As we find out, we'll let
you know more. Yeah, Ithink it's safe to say, and you
can correct me if I'm wrong,Matt, if you disagree on this.
But seemed a little cuckoo for cocapuffs, A couple of crowns short of

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the box. I've never really lookedinto old Norse poetry. It's another word
online. I don't know if thatdo you think that is the influence here?
You know what pops up when yougoogle medieval Scandinavian poetry, Bale Wolf.
Oh really? You know who wasin the movie Balo Wolf, Chrispin
and Glover, all of it,all of that aside. Yeah, I

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think this guy is uh, he'sgolden grams man, he is Count Chocula?
Is there a six degrees in CrispinGlover? Like, if we did
enough like stories about random news items, can we get it to Crispin Glover
within six steps? You know what? We might need seven on that one,

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but can we say I don't know, I don't know? And then
we start with the new story that'sa guy on fire. We find out
second degree is the guy's name.Third degree is finding out the guy liked
what is it? Medieval medieval Scandinavianpoetry. Yes, we find out that
that's bial Wolf and the movie boWolf stars Crispin Glover. That's only five

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dude, I've got there pretty quickthis time. That's funny. That is
funny. There's your Crispin Glover.Hey, you get your damn hands off
her. Yeah. Oh he rehearsedthat one too. Oh so good.

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Okay, all right, well,I'm gonna find out more about this guy,
and I'll let you know we're learningmore as the time goes on.
I'm not gonna read this is fulltwo. If you wanted me to read
the twenty seven hundred words in full, I'm not gonna do that. Sorry,
I'm gonna let somebody else kind oflike read it quickly and then giving
me like a spark notes version,and then I'll tell you what this guy

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set himself on fire for. Oncewe have that, then we can move
on, because I don't really wantto spend my time talking about a crazy
guy in New York, even ifit is quite a sensational headline. All
right, two forty six that's onthe way for if you want to call
me. Four h two five fiveeight eleven ten four h two five five
eight eleven ten, News Radio eleventen KFABA. Emery Songa on news radio

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eleven ten k FAB. It lookslike Matt, this guy doesn't like cryptocurrencies
and he thinks both parties are workingtogether to create a Ponzi scheme, which
I guess is what the cryptocurrency wouldbe, and it's working to uh yeah,

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I mean he mentions the Simpsons,and he mentions, okay, so
he's like as a term. Turnsout, dozens of riders on the Simpsons
went to Harvard. So I askedmyself the questions, if the Simpsons served
the interest of organized crime, howwould it do? So this is actually
in his manifesto here he says,well, it offers a dysfunctional family suffering

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from moral decay, a community incapableof solving its problems, a worker drawing
these slaves away for an evil billionaire, and cathartic laughs for our poor collective
circumstances. He he and then hecites several episodes, including Marge versus the
Monorail, saying the townsfolk are twoo fish and divided to to invest in

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the town's needs. He thinks thatwe've been brainwashed by The Simpsons. Sounds
like a guy with a TV andwithout a job. Well, they did
say they think he's homeless. There'ssomething about, oh, oh you know
what just ended up in my fridge. What did you put in my fridge?

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Oh? Liquid death? He mentionhis liquid death. Here, okay,
here you go, Here you go. With all this a sharp rise
and apocalyptic messaging. Climate change killsus, All COVID kills us, All
vaccines kill us, all Ai'll killus all, no matter the bubbles where
we abscribe to. We're bombarded withexistential crises with no solutions. I mean

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that's not inaccurate. You mentioned thingsthat both sides are yelling about, that
the world is going to end aboutbut it hasn't yet, so I guess
that's fair. We are bombarded withexistential crises with no solutions. Well,
these news outlets got to find somethingto talk about twenty four hours a day.
That's true. He continues by saying, we've seen a surgeon, ap

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apocalyptic film, literature, and videogames that tell us there's no way out
of our poor circumstances. But totalsocietal breakdown. Is that what they're doing?
Is that what it's about. Imean, did you see the movie
that came out last week, CivilWar? Yeah, but that's just like
somebody having fun with entertainment. Ithink you think, yeah, I don't
think they're trying to predict the future. Art doesn't emitate life. All the

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time that Simpsons made like five hundredepisodes, some of that stuff's going to
align with like real life. Comeon. I also watched an episode of
The Simpsons where you know, Homerlike like strangled Bart to a point where
he should have been dead and Bartwas just fine after it. That's not
real. That's also horrible. Soour childhood, like child stranglings up because

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Homer does it on The Simpsons.Is that where we're at on this.
I mean, that's what he's sayingis that the Simpsons are basically like praying
on America and getting us conditioned.So when the total totalitarian con and Ponzi
scheme of cryptocurrency come, we justkind of give in and fall for it.
By the way, he says,zombies tell us that the public is

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our enemy. If you go toyour nearest convenience store, you can buy
a can of water called liquid Death. I think that's an example of like
we are being conditioned that death isfine. Although I did drink some liquid
Death and it is actually pretty good. I got one right here. What
do you think? What is itflavored? Do you have a flavored one?

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It tastes it's it's actually flavored withflavor. They're so edgy, severed
lime. It's oh it's severed yeah, okay, so it's lime flavored.
It's it's liquid death is water.It's like carbonated water, yeah, with
slight flavorings on some you can youcan, Yeah, you could have a

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flavored one. It's like and it'sin like a tall Boy can. So
if you like, if you wantto look like you're drinking a beer,
but you are actually having a waterliquid death. But nobody's like, like
you think this isn't just marketing genius. We were just talking about how awesome
a marketing job that is. Youwould never guess that's water. I don't
think it's telling me that we shouldbe conditioned to like death. I don't

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think that's what it's going for.Yeah, But larger issue at hand here,
Why does drinking water have to beso uncool all of a sudden,
Well, that's a different conversation.It's because when you're twenty years old and
you're close enough to be able todrink alcohol, but you can't if they
id you. When you go tolike a concert at say the Steelhouse,
you could just be like, well, all take a liquid death and it

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looks like you're drinking a beer,but it's not. You can feel like
you're fitting in while still completely complyingwith the rules. Or you could just
wear a pair of jorts and enjoyyour life. You had to go there.
I did go there. You've hadto go there. The point still
stands. Just enjoy your life.You don't got to look like other people
all the time. Yeah, Imean that's a good point. You should
you should be a you should bea what do they call those motivational speakers?

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Yea, you should be one ofthose traveling Jeortssman's speak. I will
I'll fit Jords into the title somehow, Okay, but don't wear George because
as soon as they see a guywith Georts walking up on stage, they're
gonna lose all credibility. What ifmy name was Uncle Jeorts, the motivational
speaker, You're not gonna get hiredby anyone. By the way, I
just want to figure, I justwant to finish this thought that he had
in this big manifesto. He says, this is our rotten farce for our

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entire lives. We've been flooded withmedia designed to slowly steer us to a
ward where the American dream was dead, where the public was fully divided against
itself, where everybody believed we werepowerless to do anything about our worsening circumstances.
It's also they can organize an unprecedentedapocalyptic rug pull on the entire populace
as they pivot to fascism, whichis perhaps best understood as klepto kleptocracy.

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At the barrel of a gun.We are in a totalitarian doomsday cult.
This sounds like a guy who's beenhomeless and has been alone with his thoughts
for too long. And we spentan hour on radio talking about him,
so congratulations to him, I suppose. Well, no more of that.
We're going to talk about what happenedwith Israel and Iran, what my initial

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thoughts were when I saw it lastnight, and how those changed when I
woke up today and realized some ofthe actual facts. I'll explain that,
and we'll do the open phone lineFriday coming up on news radio eleven ten kfab