Trump Trial Tabloids: Hush Money, Catch & Kill, and the National Enquirer

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trial that's going on in New York, Matt, Oh, Yeah, you
know the one that we've talked aboutfor like the last two weeks uninterrupted.
Right, it's happening still today.It was happening today, and it looks
like they're still going here today.It looks like we'll let you know on

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any of these specific details, butwe are still hearing from David Pecker.
My goodness. Biggest news is thathe is saying he had formed Michael Cohen,
who of course was the former Trumpattorney informer Michael Cohen about Stormy Daniels
going public with an affair with DonaldTrump. And this was just ahead of

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the twenty sixteen election. Now,first of all, can we just reverse
ourselves back? How much was Stormygetting from somebody to go public with that
story? You know what I mean? Or do you think she was just

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like, Oh, he's back inthe news. He might have a chance
to win this thing. I gottatime this upright. It's like within a
month of the election. Now,see does that sit right with anybody?
But that's politics. That's been politicsfor a long time. Hey, this

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is the guy. Let's dick upsome dirt. Have you seen Hamilton?
No, you kill me? Disneyplus I don't have it? Nah?
All right, well, Hamilton,you know at least who the guy is.
I got Disney minus a VHS playerand some old tapes. Are they

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in the really nice cardboard ones thatyou like? Oh the plastic Yeah,
he'll open one of those. That'sa good feeling. This is the sound
that that makes when you pop thatthing open. Those were the days they
have they says the masterpieces on themor whatever. Anyway, Hamilton Disney minus
Hamilton the guy. This is areal life thing. He had an affair

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in the seventeen hundreds, long timeago. Alexander, Yeah, Alexander Hamilton.
He had an affair and he hadpolitical rivals, and they said we
are going to expose you, andthen he beat them to the punch and
exposed them himself. He basically committedcareer suicide, but to protect the values

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that he uphold. It upheld,and that basically eliminated any chance this guy
was going to be the president ofthe United States, because there was a
really good chance he would have beenbefore that happened his run for president.
It wasn't because it didn't end withhis life when he got into a duel
with Aaron Burr. No, No, his thing ended when something like this

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was uncovered in the seventeen nineties intothe early eighteen hundreds. And you want
to know something, that is agutsy move to just say, you know
what, I'm just going to beatthem to the punch. Now with social
media, you can't beat anybody tothe punch. And obviously David Pecker here
from the National A Choir, theformer publisher of the National Inquirer, said

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that the Inquirer informed him that StormyDaniels was selling her story for one hundred
and twenty thousand dollars. So how'sthat? How's the negotiation go? Do
you? Does she call like everymajor does she get her lawyer at every

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major news outlet? Is basically likeon the horn, like one hundred and
twenty thousand dollars? Do you payup? You get to run the story?
Is that how that works? Iwould have asked for more? Is
that not bribery? Yeah? Andright? Don't you think that that would
probably be worth a lot more thanthat? A little low? And how
does CMZ not already have it?I mean they already have stuff all the

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time for free. I don't knowwho they work with. Is it always
for free? I guess that's agood point. Anyway, there was a
catch and kill agreement with Donald Trump. That's what this thing has been about.
They have paperwork, they have thethe deal and that they had signed

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with each other that if there werenegative Trump ads or negative Trump stories,
that were about to come out.They were to slice and dice them.
They weren't going to be published againethically, Who's slicing and dicing the Inquirer
as part of their Oh, hehad a working agreement with the Inquirer.

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Yeah, no bad press. Yeah. Then they had a deal. I
mean it wasn't just like a handshakedeal, like David Pecker is Trump's friend,
I mean he was his friend,but they had an agreement. So
they basically paid Pecker in the NationalAcquirer to not run negative Trump stories.

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So when Stormy Daniels and her peoplesay, hey, National Inquirer, I
got this juicy story presidential candidate DonaldTrump had an affair with me. I'll
give you the whole story for onehundred and twenty bucks. I mean one
hundred twenty thousand bucks. And sowhat's the first thing that David Pecker does.

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He gets on the horn of Cohenand Trump and say, hey,
got to let you know that thisthing is going around. And I was
just offer one hundred and twenty thousanddollars for Stormy Daniels to have a story
about her having an affair with DonaldTrump. Thought you should know. Pecker
then testifies that Michael Cohen says,you buy that story because then he can

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have the like she can tell thestory, and then they can no story,
you know what I mean. Sothey had to bet that she would
go there first. They basically,if you buy the story for one hundred
and twenty thousand dollars, she'll tellyou all the details, and then we
have like we have the ability tokill it, slice it, dice it

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whatever, right because of their theirrelationship. But David Pecker said he did
not want to buy that, sayinghe was not going to get involved with
a porn star. That's the wordshe used. What's she really a star?
We don't know, I mean,I don't know. Maybe you know,
I don't know. Are you sureyou don't know? I'm pretty sure

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you didn't watch Shaving Brian's Private.I have not even heard of that.
I wonder if that's a creative alterationof a different title. I don't know.
I feel like that's what most adultfilms are, aren't they. I
couldn't tell you. I don't knowanyway. Basically, Michael Cohen told Donald

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Trump, or told Pecker that Trumpwould be very angry with that decision.
But David Pecker said, Look,this is how it's going to work for
us. Of course, the AccessHollywood tape that was publicized as well early
October twenty sixteen. We're a monthout from the election, and all this
negative price is hitting. What thesepoliticians won't do to smear their opposition,

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I tell you what. And ofcourse then prosecutors say they're relying on the
proximity of Trump's alleged hush money payments, which is his whole point of what
we're doing here, to the AccessHollywood release to establish the Trump was acting
in the interest of his campaign whenhe made the payments, which means he

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falsified business records, which is whatwe're arguing about. So the timeline of
this story, the timeline of theAccess Hollywood video, where those campaign dollars
stop and personal dollars begin. Allthat jazz. That is what we are
debating here. None of this,though, with the story, is going
to make like as this story comesout, even if he is not guilty,

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which again I'm not sure they're goingto have enough to prove that he
falsified business records. Even with anot guilty verdict, this is not going
to make Ronald Trump looked like agood dude for the next six weeks.
Why the doing this trial? Itis not going to make him look like
a good dude. This is goingto be a tough It's going to be

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a tough sell to independent voters saying, yeah, this is the guy that
I want to vote for president intwenty twenty four, that's in November,
that big election coming up. Yeah, the guy that I'm voting for president
just was in court and we wereable to uncover the fact that he had
a pretty steamy affair with an adultactress and he had behind the scenes deals.

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He and his lawyer and his teamhad behind the scenes deals with places
like the National Inquirer to prevent negativestories about him from leaking into the public
eye. Yeah, so I atat best for Donald Trump and his candidacy,

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that is going to be a factor, you would think, And if
you got thoughts on this, ifthis information makes you feel differently about Donald
Trump for one for one way oranother way, good for bad. The
more details that we get out ofthis, the more I'm just like,
dull, this is not good tobe out in the open like this.
But this is what cord is andif they they're getting reports like this,

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how are we not getting this onvideo? How are we not allowed to
just have a camera in there atall times? I mean, come on,
what really is the problem here?Anyway, you can call us four
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Trial ideas and thoughts and we'll talkto you next two twenty. News Radio
eleven ten kfab Emery's sung on newsRadio eleven ten kfab Doug, thanks for

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colling. What's on your mind?Well, why are you assuming he's guilty,
because that's how you're talking about it. Oh, Doug, I am
not. I did not say thatonce. I said that I don't think
he is guilty. No, Dougdog he called me. No, Doug,
Doug, you called me. Yousay that I'm acting like he's guilty.
You got to give me a chanceto defend myself. I did not
say that I think he's guilty.He is being accused of thirty four counts

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of falsifying business records. I don'tthink they can find that. But the
stuff that is being told by DavidPecker from the National Inquirer or formerly of
the National Inquirer, about all ofthe behind the scenes, catch and kill
type of deals that he had.If you're an independent voter, this is
stuff that actually did happen. Andall I'm saying is it doesn't look good

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if you're trying to have a solidreputation for an independent voter who already probably
had trouble voting for Trump in thefirst place. That's all I'm saying,
Doug. Okay, now you're gonnalet me talk. Yes, sir,
Okay, did you not say thatall this steamy stuff about him having unaffair
with her was going to come out? Now? That is what I'm talking

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about. You're saying he physically said, you're saying that he had sex with
her. How do you know that? I'm saying that Stormy Daniels sent or
was selling a story for one hundredand twenty thousand dollars. Now I have
to make the assumption that if thisstory is out there and he is being
accused of falsifying business records to payand try to kill the story before it

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gets out there, I have tomake the assumption that if I'm an independent
voter, not you, Doug,not me, Doug, but an independent
voter is going to look at thatIt's like, well, why would he
want to purchase that story if hedidn't think that it could do some real
damage to him. That's what I'msaying, Doug. Okay, but you

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know what assume means, right,Yes? But again, okay, Doug.
The reason, like he we knowbased on the under oath, the
testimony of the guy who is underoath right now in court. He said
that he was told by Michael Cohen, who was acting in the interest at
the time of Donald Trump, tobuy the story. Are we not supposed

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to act like that means anything?Can you believe Michael Cohen? That's what
Donald Trump is saying. He shouldn'tbelieve Michael Coney. So the man heard
it from Michael Cohen. He didnot hear Trump say that, So that's
hearsay. You don't know that you'reassuming again, Okay, Okay, no

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liar, A no liar, Okay, a non liar. Okay told you
something and us and you're making anassumption. No, And I'm not saying
that he's not saying the truth.But I can't say he's saying that he's
not lying either, Okay, Andthat's fine, ud, Doug. You're
trying I'm gonna I'm going to askyou something. Who made the money out

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of this whole deal? Did StormyDaniels get money or is it now cost
her about she got one hundred andthirty thousand, but now she owes Trump
six hundred and sixty thousand, right, yeah, yeah, Okay, So
why would another court say she oweshim money if some of the things she

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said was not true? Sure?And Doug, that's totally right. I'm
just going by the testimony we're hearingin this court case from a guy who
was in charge of the National Inquirerat the time. He had a deal.
I didn't have records that they hada deal to catch and kill stories
that were negative to take. Thiswas one of them that popped up.

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Okay, So what deal did thisman make with someone to do this testimony?
Because he did make a deal andthey know he did. And what
was she going to be charged withif he did not give them information they
he thought they would need? Andis he doing it for himself to protect

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himself from something? Okay? Butbut Doug, he's under oath, So
do you think he's lying? Hey, you're gonna tell me that people under
oath don't no, because people doall the time. But that but that's
the but, Doug, I'm supposedto Doug. We have to dog dog
gosh, Doug, we have toassume. Again, you're gonna give me
on the assumed part. But thewhole reason of being under oath in the

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first place is to understand that theyare telling the truth, and then if
they're not, they're being they'll getin charge for perjury. But that's part
of what this is is you aresupposed to report these statements or these records.
And this is why this is goingout and into the press, because
this is there are people reporting thisguy is under oath. He's being questioned

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by both sides. And what heis saying right now, at least so
far, is that this stuff actuallyhappened, and they have evidence that there
was a catch and kill deal.They have evidence that Stormy Daniels did offer
stories to these people for a certainnumber of dollars, and they have this
information and he is just answering thequestion that are coming. He's not just

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talking out of both sides of hismouth. He might be lying, Doug,
but at this point he's under oath, and these are the things that
he's saying, that's what we're reporting. Okay, so it's catch and kill
a crime. Well, I guessI don't think so. I don't know
that. Okay, but Doug,But Doug, does that make Donald Trump
look good? Which goes back tothe original point altogether, was if you're

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an independent voter and you hear aboutthis kind of thing happening with the presidential
candidate, do you feel good aboutthat? That is what my whole point
was to begin with. That youcalled in to say that I'm acting like
he's guilty. The way let's putit this way, the way you phrase
it, and everything else you wantto assume. You have made the assumption

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the man is telling the truth.And part of the things he may be
telling is the truth. But ishe telling the whole truth? I don't
know, DoD only he knows that. But I'm just going by what he's
saying. Am I supposed to justsay no, he's a liar. No,
he's a liar. Everybody who goeson the stand they're liars. That's
what I'm supposed to do, Doug, Doug, I ran out of time.
I'm sorry. I appreciate the call. Today, I'm already like three

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minutes over my time. I don'tI don't. I don't understand why this
is a me thing. I'm literallyreporting what they're talking about in court,
and I'm just saying, if Iwas an independent voter, this stuff is
not going to look good to DonaldTrump. If you're a Trump supporter,
you're gonna find holes in it.But if you're not a Trump supporter,
you're gonna hear this and you're gonnabe like, I'm not sure this is
a good idea. I don't thinkthis is a good thing. That's all
I'm saying. So you want toget heated at me because I'm saying what's

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going on in court, I guessbe mad at me, but just pretending
like everybody's a liar if they don'tagree with you. I don't think that's
the way to live either. Youcan call me four h two five five
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everyone about the specific specificity of whywe're doing the exercise of going through the
details of what is being talked aboutin this hush money case. Right.
I don't think it's healthy for usto just completely ignore things that are happening
just because we don't agree with theproceedings. To outright ignore what's happening in

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the courtroom, I think is misguidedand could lead to us being completely blindsided
by things that are happening in thefallout of this in the coming weeks and
months heading into November. Let's justpretend like this is a shame, We're
not going to pay any attention toit, and then he's not guilty,
Okay, And I think that's alikely scenario based on what we know about

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the case, right. But Ithink even more so if there's a not
guilty verdict, we have to beaware of the information that is being disclosed
within the case. Now, ifyou want to say that David Pecker or
Michael Cohen or any of the otherlikely witnesses on this case outside of Trump

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are liars, you don't believe them. You think they're committing perjury because of
the information you think that you haveand your opinion on the politics of Donald
Trump. Okay, you have thatright. You have that right to be
completely convicted in what you think abouta political candidate or a man or a

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woman or anyone. And that's that'sokay. That goes back to the oj
did he do it? Did henot do it? The court of public
opinion thinks he did it, butaccording to the court, he didn't do
it. And there were things inthat case and in that trial that you
thought would lead us down a roadhere, there, there, or anywhere,

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right, okay, So why talkabout it because there are a bunch
of people that aren't us out there. There are a bunch of people that
aren't conservative voters. There aren't abunch of people that really want to have
Donald Trump politics back in the WhiteHouse. There are a lot of people

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that don't like to support Republicans justbecause they're Republicans. There are a lot
of people that don't care about someof the other big things that are happening
in our country. But they stillgo vote, and their vote counts just
as much as your vote does.And when they go to the polls and
they vote against Donald Trump, andone of the things that come out in
the exit polls are I don't likewhat happened with the Stormy Daniels thing,

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I don't like the catch and killthing. I don't like the fact that
he spent his entire time violating agag order. If they determine that he
indeed violated a gag order, westill don't have that ruling. Okay,
that could affect the opinion of theindependent voter that could swing the election in

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November. So argue that this stuffis all a sham, Okay, fine,
we can have the argument, butnot everyone is going to share that
opinion. So we have to knowwhat's happening here so we can understand where
the court of public opinion is onthis trial, this case, this politician.

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So even if he is found notguilty, which I think is a
likely scenario, we might be ableto understand though, how or why an
independent voter might feel differently than wedo about Donald Trump moving into November.
We cannot project what we feel tobe the truth, our truth onto a

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bunch of people that don't agree withus. There are a bunch of people
that are going to listen to what'shappening in this trial and think everything is
one hundred percent on the level,and we have to respect that and try
to continue to fight the battles politicallyto win independent votes in November, because

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those are the people that, forbetter or worse, will decide the election
and who will be in the WhiteHouse for the next four years. Four
h two five five, eight eleventens the phone number. Scott's on the
line. Scott, thanks for callingin today. What's your thoughts on this?
Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I agree with you. People
need to to have an open mindabout a lot of things. I watch

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various news channels. I don't watchjust one because I want to get as
well informed as I can to makean intelligent decision. And if you're only
listening to one, you're not gettinga full story. Yeh, Scott,
you are preaching legitimacy to anybody who'slistening to this, and I hope everybody's

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listening to what you're saying is becausenot because your opinions are but it's important
to know what other people think becauseunlike some of the other large countries in
the world. I'm looking at you, China, I'm looking at you Russia,
you don't get to make free decisionsabout what's going on in your country.
We do. And there are alot of people, again, for

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better or worse, that will disagreewith us. And they are going to
look at what's happening in the proceedingsin New York and they are going to
make a decision about November based onwhat they're learning there. So for us
to sit here and just act likethat's not true, we are setting ourselves
up for disaster. Yeah. Well, I just wanted to call in and

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agree with you, and I Ijust wish people would open their minds and
listen to everything and then form theirown opinion. You're missing out on a
lot if you're only listening to oneside, Scott. That's awesome stuff.
I appreciate you sharing that on theshow today. Thank you so much for
calling in. You bet bye.If you want to call in, you

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want to talk to us, youcan four two five five eight eleven ten
four oh two five five eight eleventen two forty eight. Well keep talking
Trump if you want. I needto talk a little bit about what Scotus
is up to as well, Sostick around on these radio eleven ten kfab
and Ray's songer on news Radio eleventen kfab. John, Thanks for the
call. What do you think aboutthis? Hey man? How you doing

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again? Oh? Hey John?What's up? Oh? It's sir,
But everything going pretty good. Butlet me just share one thing with you.
I like how you started off theconversation about everybody got that you don't
need to look at what the independent'sgoing to do and how they're gonna register
their vote. And that's true,because they looking at that information. In
this trial, we'll make somebody twisttheir vote, change their vote, or

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vote the other way, or whateveryou want to say it. But my
point is wrong. This emory isthis. I've told you once before.
You know. What we have todo is wait till he go to trial,
and let's see what happened. Becauseeverybody got an opinion, they want
to spew it over the radio,TV and all that stuff. But let

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the jury here, let the peoplewho was involved with it, let them
hear. And I'm hearing stuff nowthat I didn't even know about what Peca
did with all of this information,with all this catch and kill, I
knew about it. But you knowwhat I mean, sure we're getting more
details about it now. This ain'tno and this ain't Joe Biden. This
is what Donald Trump and Peca andCohen and all these people did. So

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let's just see see what the trialres heal and uh, you know,
we go from that to agree withyou, John, appreciate you for calling
in, man, Thanks so muchfor calling in. Appreciate it. Yes,
sir, you have a good day, you too, Yeah, And
just to reiterate, right, peopleare going to have an opinion already about
Donald Trump. I would I betthe majority of people in this country already

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have their opinion on Donald Trump.That's not a surprise. But there are
people that these details are going tobe complete new to them, or they
are going to be completely different inthe way that they thought the Stormy Daniels
thing happened eight years ago. Andyou cannot even if you know you're not
going to believe any of this,even if you know that Donald Trump shouldn't

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be having to face this trial,which we I agree with. I feel
that way too, But you're kiddingyourself if you don't think there are people
out there that will have an opportunityto vote for the presidency in November that
this is not going to change theiropinion or make a decision for them,
because they're going to treat this likea legitimate trial. We cannot act like

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that's not going to happen. Doug'son our phone line four two, five,
five, eight to eleven ten.Doug, Welcome to the show.
What's up, Hi, How areyou? I'm good? What's going on?
Well? I just I just wonderit really kind of bothers me the
way they just keep trying to dragTrump through the court system. Does anybody
realize how many million dollars this iscosting the American taxpayer for them to do

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this? Well, the answer isdefinitely no, Doug. But nobody's talking
about how much is costing taxpayers.They just can't believe that they're preferred,
their preferred candidate is having to gothrough a trial like this because they're running
for office. That's essentially why thisis happening, because he's trying to run
her office. They would not bringthis back up if he was not running

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for office in November. There's nodoubt about it, right right. But
I think, you know, there'sa lot of people that just don't like
Trump because of the way he isor whatever, but they think it's funny
they're doing this to him. Butat the same time, I guess they
don't care that it's costing them theirtaxpayers' money to do it. Yeah,
And you know what, that's agreat point, Doug. And nobody's thinking
about that though, because it's alot less sexy to talk about. That's

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the that's the bottom line, youknow. I mean, you're right.
Well, this my two cents.I appreciate the call, Doug, thanks
so much. I mean, wegot two dougs, two very different opinions
in that first hour. If youwant to call in, whether your name's
Doug or something else, call itfour h two five five eight eleven ten.
Four h two five five eight eleventen. There's absolutely no doubt about

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it from my perspective that this isworth talking about. When more information comes
out, we're gonna talk about it. We don't have to like it,
we don't have to agree with it, but there are people that they will,
and we need to know about it, and we need to know why
it arms us for those discussions thatwe have at the dinner table or in
restaurants or wherever we go to talkwith people that might disagree with us.

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