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Robbi emails in and said, youjust said you've been following the Stormy Daniels
testimony hardcore play on words or Freudianslip. I uh, A Freudian play
on words. I thought the samething, I wondered myself. Okay,
maybe it is. I don't know. I didn't intentionally do that, so
it was not a plan. Itwas Freudian. Yeah, wow, but
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what is freud know? That guywas afraid of ferns. You ever heard
about that? He was a houseplants. Also had a bit of a
mommy disorder or condition or whatever youcall it. Dude, anybody who spent
their life studying the brain probably hada messed up brain themselves. Let's be
honest. I guess yeah, that'swhat I'm saying. Yeah, between two
ferns would have been his nightmare scenario. Cross examination from the defense Trump attorney
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Susan Nechelis is Dania starting her testaor sorry, her cross examination, and
the testimony of Stormy Daniels. Sountil just like the last three or four
minutes, Stormy has been talking.Oh, by the way, we found
that out. Stormy has requested tobe called Stormy. She is Stormy Daniels
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interest. Don't call her Stephanie Gifford, Clifford Grifford Difford, don't call her
that. She's Stormy Daniels. Stormywas being here the whole thing, right,
if you've been following the story,Stormy Daniels has been talking about this
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for the most part eight years nowthrough Michael Lavenatti, who went after Trump.
That was her lawyer when they wentafter Donald Trump back in sixteen.
And then now there's a book,there's a documentary. The documentary is called
Stormy says she was not paid toappear or participate in that documentary, but
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she started on the documentary in twentyeighteen and said wanted to get the truth
out or better known as even thoughshe wasn't paid for that, wanted to
get the truth the truth out,but also she could promote the book in
the book also was going to makeher all sorts of good money. I
mean, come on, we couldwrite a book at this point, Let's
just write Why don't we write abook about what? I don't know us,
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what's the craziest thing that we've done? Could we write a book?
We write the book after we winthe primary or caucus in American Samoa.
Yeah, that's the play how Iwon the twenty twenty eight American Samoa Republican
primary or Democratic primary, whichever one. We know we have a chance to
win. You just do it.We should probably look into that and break
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it down, you know. Yeah. Anyway, I'll get to the later
highlights because it's been going on forhours. Gosh. She got on the
stand at like nine to thirty ourtime, and this is what I was
saying, Like she was taught.They were reporting that she was talking quickly.
She was talking fast. I hadto try to slow her down a
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little bit. She was cracking jokes. She one of the funnier, funnier
moments, if you want to callit that. Again, you're the unbiased
arbitrator. Are you ready for this? She made a joke because she met
Donald Trump on a golf course,and it was a brief meeting. He's
a big golfer. He was atthis golf tournament Lake Tahoe. She was
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there and her she she uh,she said something along the lines of,
yeah, I thought it was kindof funny that our production company was sponsoring
one of the holes. Hmmm mmhmm. Yeah, funny, funny,
not funny. Oh because of golf, right, yeah, golf joke,
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golf golf course, but also holesa holes joke, orphis joke, uh
orca or fists. I don't know. I'm pretending not to follow you.
Okay, Look, the jury didn'tlaugh either, and that also was noted.
I don't know if she I don'tknow if she's tried to. If
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they did laugh with that, habeen a problem. It's like, okay,
come on now, that wasn't funny. The sex joke. I've heard
that a couple times so far thistrial, Like the jury's really been.
They've been stoic. You know,you wonder if they were like talked to
beforehand. But there's some stuff that'sgonna come up that might tickle your funny
bone, but that could also causeproblems if you're out there, you know,
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howling with laughter. Yeah, andI don't know. I mean,
she got out of the NDA andthere's all sorts of stuff in here.
This the real steamy, spicy thingis the encounter itself that she described.
Okay, and again we're going toget back to the hole. Is this
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falsifying business records or not? Canhe be can he be found guilty?
Of the thirty four counts or anyvariation of the counts of false fying business
records, because technically, from alegality standpoint, that's what we're here for,
right, But again, it wasn'tnecessarily designed to achieve that, as
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much as this was specifically designed toget Stormy out there, to make this
guy look bad, to embarrass him, to make him look like a liar,
try to change people's public opinion abouthim. If they think that he's
this really good, god fearing,upstanding man and they've just refused to look
at the Stormy Daniels book, orthey've refused to acknowledge any of the allegations
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against him, which he has vehementlydenied, then maybe this is going to
change their mind. Number two isit takes him off the campaign trail for
two months. I mean, likeduring this time of the year, with
the general election coming at the endof the of the year in November,
you're telling me that, you know, I can get my opponent off the
campaign trail for two months. Obviouslythat's going to be a win for the
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Democrats. Well, I'll get tohis hold tight and I'm not taking calls
yet because I got Jeff Angelo,who's going to try to break this down
from a political standpoint on a varietyof levels. He's going to be joining
me at the bottom of the hour, so I don't want to get started
with the phone calls and then haveto interrupt the phone calls to get to
that interview. Later in the hourand into next hour, we'll talk about
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this. I'm going to open thephone lines up and we'll go crazy.
But for now, I'm just givingyou information. If you haven't been following
this very closely, or you've heardjust you know, bullet points, I
want to tell you as things werehappening this morning, our time, what
Sormy Daniels was saying in regards tothe affair, if you will, or
the encounter, the conquest, ifyou want to call it that, because
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she went into a lot of detail, in fact, so much detail that
they had the judge basically like,we don't need all these details, and
the you know, the judge mershOn even sustained objections from the defense about
some of the stuff that was beingasked from the prosecution. So we will
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get to the information about how thatall went down coming up next. Sit
tight and buckle up these Radio eleventen kfab em Marie's songer on news Radio
eleven ten kfab. This is thething, and I just the whole thing.
We know, we're just not enjoyingit. And again, if you're
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trying to call, you're not gettingthrough. I have not opened the phone
lines. I love to take yourphone calls. I have an interview coming
up to try to break this downfrom a very like political level shaming and
winning losing type thing with Jeff Angelocoming up here at the bottom of the
hour, and then the phone lineswill be open and then we're gonna go
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crazy talking about this. But Ihave to tell you that we we have
to talk about Sarmy Daniels on thestand and what she said. Number One,
she's under oath. Okay, soas much as we want to like
be that kind of as much aswe would like to say, she's lying
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as a fair arbiter, and asthe jury is going to sit there assuming
that the jury is doing what theysaid they were and they aren't generally politically
motivated at all. That's how theygot on the jury, whether they have
opinions on Trump or not. Thatwasn't really The question is can you be
fair and can you understand these things? Right? They're going to look at
this as if it is a legitimatething, like legitimate from top to bottom.
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Her testimony just is the truth.What did she say? Number one?
They were talking about out the waythat she met him, as I
mentioned, she met him at agolf event that was in Lake Tahoe in
like two thousand and six. Hethen asks through his person, his bodyguard,
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I suppose his name's Keith Schiller.She used his name. They knew
that she knew his name. KeithSchiller gave Donald Trump information to Stormy and
said, would you like to havedinner with mister Trump again? Two thousand
and six is like, this islike peak Trump as a business guy.
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Right, he doesn't have like he'slike television star, right, like the
The Apprentice is a mega hit.Like where look, this is before all
the politics stuff. Like Trump's staris large, He's got to hit TV
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show, He's on the Apprentice,You're fired. Everybody in America knows that.
He's also kind of away from alot of the stuff that plagued him
business wise, like with the usfland some of the other things that kind
of popped up and then went downin the eighties and into the nineties,
he's kind of become a more belovedcelebrity, like a true celebrity, not
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just a guy that makes cameos inrandom movies. But he's the kind of
guy that shows up on talk showsand has a lot of fun. In
fact, I think two thousand andsix, five or six, he was
in WrestleMania. He and Bobby Lashleyshaved Vince McMahon's head in the middle of
the ring. You can find thisinformation. It's on the WWE network.
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You can find it right now.So anyway, Donald Trump invites Stormy Daniels
to hang. This is what Stormy'ssaying. I'm just telling you what her
under oath testimony sounds like. Andthis is what the They have to assume
she is telling the truth. Youcan't just go in there and say no,
only certain people are telling the truthhere. That's perjury. And if
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she is lying, that's a differentthing. The defense has to worry about
that. I'm talking about the juryand us as just trying to be a
fair arbiter that assumes that people takethat responsibility seriously as being under oath.
Don't come at me with like Oh, well, she was lying. We
know she's lying. She's changing herstory all that stuff. That's not what
we're talking about. We're talking aboutspecifically what she's saying today. She says
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she was not interested at all.She said he was older than my dad.
She's twenty seven at the time.He's, gosh, do the math,
two thousand and six. He's like, yeah, he's about sixty sixty,
just a little older than sixty probablyat this time. And so she's
like, he's the age of mydad. I'm not interested. Well,
she's still in her adult film industrycompany. They were going to do a
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big dinner and her publicist apparently toldher, well, to get out that
dinner because she didn't want to goto that dinner. Just go and hang
out with Donald Trump. What's theworst that could happen. So she does,
She goes, she gets specific instructions, she goes up to the penthouse
at the Trump Hotel and there heis, and she said he was wearing
satin pajamas. She laughed at andmade fun of him immediately, which kind
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of tells you she's just kind ofthe person that doesn't take a lot of
this stuff seriously. And he changedinto dress pants and a dressed shirt and
they sat. She said they hada good conversation. They talked mostly about
what she does not on the screen, but kind of why she went into,
like the writing and how the industryworked, and not all the dirty
stuff, kind of the more businessstuff, and she thought that that was
pretty cool. She said that asmuch on the stand today. Well as
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she was saying all of this,right, she also made a mention that
they were not drinking They were drinkingwater. She said she had about two
bottles of water in two hours,which is not an obscene amount, and
she had no reason to think thatanything weird was happening while they were,
you know, hanging out, havingdinner, talking about stuff. At one
point, she goes to the bathroom. This is her testimony. She goes
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to the bathroom, admits to lookingthrough his toilet tries, which again I
have no idea why that is relevantat all. And eventually Judge Burshawn told
her and the prosecution and the questionsand all that stuff, like, we're
getting into so many details that reallyjust don't make any difference here. But
then she says she walks out ofthe bathroom and sees Donald Trump in his
boxers and a T shirt laying onhis bed, and she said she felt
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all the blood rush out of herbody, kind of like if you stand
up too too fast. It tookher aback. She didn't, says at
some exchange, you know, he'sstanding between the door to exit and where
she was standing. So he's standingthere, not in a threatening manner.
She made clear that it wasn't threatening, but she says that he was kind
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of standing there. And the nextthing she remembers is she was taking her
clothes off or a closer off.They had whatever do you do? You
have a you have a polite wayto say that, conjugal visit. Yeah,
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we'll go with that, the conjugalvisit. And then after that,
she remembers getting out of there asfast as she could, and that was
the end, he told her.At the time, she asked about what
Milania, because he was married toMalania in two thousand and six, what
she would think of her meeting Trumpor whatever Stormy I'm talking about, and
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he told Stormy, we don't sleepin the same bed. So this Donald
Trump kind of shook his head.That's what the report was coming out of
here. After that, she wasasked, did he say anything about trying
to keep this a secret or keepit quiet after the you know, conjugal
visit, And basically he said,no, you gotta remember this is non
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political Trump, like, what didhe have to care? Nobody's going to
dig into his personal life. Hehad nothing to lose, nothing to care,
So he said he don't need tokeep it a secret or anything.
Don't worry about Milania. Don't worryabout anything. And she had told him
that she was not attached, didn'thave a husband, boyfriend, or anything
like that. Well, apparently theymet again in two thousand and seven because
they had also kind of talked aboutCelebrity Apprentice. Why didn't she go on
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Celebrity Apprentice or why didn't she wantto? She said she wanted to kind
of branch out from making adult filmsas a director and producer and a writer
and get into more legitimate film anddidn't want to be stereotyped into be an
adult film star, have a badshowing, go out in the show very
early, and then basically just beinga laughingstock and have a reputation ruined.
I can understand that, But shemet with Trump at the launch of the
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Trump Vodka brand, according to hertestimony in two thousand and seven, and
she says she wanted to make Pina sort of relationship with him because the
chance to be on The Apprentice wasstill up in the air and that could
have done big thanks for her inher career. Again, this is a
hit TV show that Trump had.She says, Trump gave her a kiss,
shook her friend's hand, adding itwas a public event with hundreds of
people there. That was also thesame party where Trump introduced her to his
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friend that she learned was Karen McDougall, who also is put into this thing
because of a hush money catch andkill style payment that is similar to the
Stormy Daniels one. And that iswhy we're here and the falsifying of business
records heading into the election in twentysixteen. So with that being said,
that's really the nuts and the bolts, if you will, of what happened
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as far as the conjugal visit isconcerned and how she described it under oath.
When we come back, Jeff Angelo, who is a political analyst,
will be joining us. He isgoing to break this down from a standpoint
of the political ramifications that this couldhave in which voters, which potential voters
could realistically, one way or theother, have this be a thing they
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point back to when they make theirvote in November. We'll talk about that
and eventually later this hour and intothe next hour. Stay tight. If
you want to have your voice heard, we will hear it, and you'll
call us and we'll take your callsinto the three o'clock hour. So hang
tight. A lot more Stormy Daniel'stestimony, fallout, and analysis coming up
on news radio eleven ten KFAB