Callers want to "Frei" Bacon. Could that burn them in November?

Episode Transcript

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There you go. Nicely done.Michael Cohen is currently in the process of
being cross examined. One of thequestions that was asked is do you want
to see the defendant found guilty andconvicted? And he said yes, I
do. Oh ow, oh gosh. He says he records four podcasts a

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week and Trump is mentioned in everysingle one. He does each of his
two podcasts two times per week,all year long, and Trump is mentioned
every single time. Did you knowMichael Cohen had two podcasts? Is that
not? Is that not something thatlike? How can he? How can
he do this? What do wetalk I thought there were gag orders involved

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here? How are you talking aboutthe guy that is on the other side
of this trial on your social mediaaccounts and on two podcasts that you do
twice a week, and you sayyou're mentioning Trump and every single one Donald
Trump, even after your guys isfalling out, and even after you being
a convicted felon, Michael Cohen isstill profiting theoretically. I mean, I've

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done podcasts and not gotten paid adime for those, But theoretically he's he's
still making money on the Donald Trumpname. And now we've just given him
a commercial for his podcasts, sillyus, just like we've given commercials to
Stormy in her two books she hasn'treleased yet, Just like I inadvertently gave
commercials to Christy Nouman her book.I don't know if that's helping her too

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much though. Anyway, the defenselawyers Todd Blanche is doing the questioning here,
and he's basically saying, these profanitylay social media comments show who Michael
Cohen really is. He found aTikTok which Michael Cohen calls Todd Blanche a
crying little bleep insert the S wordfor bleep, you know the one that

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starts with an S than an hoh, shorty, yeah, kind of,
he says. He says, callsBlanche a crying little blank just before
the trial began, but of coursejudged on Mershaan struck the question including one
that asked Cohen if he made commentsabout himself and Trump attorney Susan Nicholas,
and the defense is saying, Hey, Michael Cohen, this is who he

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is. He is not a goodguy. This is a bad dude.
He's a liar, he's a felon. He's out for Trump's blood, duh
Ugh, So I'm looking through.I mean, it's happening now. So
we're we're doing the best that wecan to keep you updated on some of
the stuff. But he did confirmthat the prosecution has asked him repeatedly to

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stop publicly commenting on the case itself. And then Cohen says, they might
have. And then Todd Blanche waslike, did they or did they not?
He said, yes, they did. Here's a funny thing, he
says. Blanche goes, you alsotalked on social media during this trial about
President Trump? Have you not?And he said sounds correct, yes,
And then Blanche says, did youcall a former President Trump a dictator?

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D bag? On TikTok? Youknow what that means, right? I
don't have to say the full word, do I diamondbacks the bag? Bag
like he's in his bag? Sure, like a diamond encrusted handbag. Yeah.
Just pretend like it's that, excepta bad version of that. It's
an insult. Cohen says, itsounds like something I would say, and

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then Blanche says, on the sameTikTok April twenty third, a couple of
weeks ago, you refer to PresidentTrump when he left the courtroom. He
said that he goes right into thatlittle cage, which is where he belongs,
in a blanking cage, like ananimal. Cohen responds and says,
I recall saying that Donald Trump can'tsay a word about Michael Cohen. Though,

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I mean, he's got a point. He's got a point. This
was just a few weeks ago whilethe trial was going on, it was
happening. He's calling him all thesenames on social media. Yeah, he's
trying to be like this some likelike martyr's the wrong word because he has
relatively nothing to lose because he's alreadya convicted felon. But like he's he's
basically essentially what what he's doing is, uh, he's trying to appeal to

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every non Trump fan. This isthis goes into our thing of like,
man, he just really wants tobe the guy that takes this guy down.
Todd Blanche, one of the earlierquestions was is this trial important to
you, mister Cohen, And misterCohen says personally, yes, m m
M. How about this for afunny thing, A funny little thing,
Todd Blanch says to Michael Cohen todayand here's a funny one. Have you

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been following the trial because he's hedoesn't have to, He's not sitting in
there, he's not one of theprosecutors. He's not just sitting in there,
right, Cohen says to some extent, yes, and then he says,
I have watched CNN in m minseNBC, but not religiously in order
to follow the full extent of thetrial. End quote. Seeing in an
MSNBC getting a shout out today,Is that a shocker to you? Is
he pining for a after this trial? Is he trying to get on the

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radar to maybe get a little somesum from one of those networks for the
little name drop here? Eh,eh, what a croc Basically, there
you go. It's funny, It'sreal funny, but it's also funny and
kind of a depressing way. Andif you want to be a part of
our conversation about this and some ofthe stuff that we're hearing, which are

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pretty obviously pointing at Michael Cohen beingthis guy who really is just intent on
trying to take Trump down and doingwhatever it takes to do that, including
on social media, including by droppingdifferent little tidbits in the testimony on top
of trying everything he possibly can topush across his little podcasts that he does

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that I hadn't heard of until today. Well, you can call this a
four L two five five eight eleventen. I'd love to hear your thoughts
on this, even though I thinkI already know most of them. Four
L two five five eight eleven ten. America. This is what we are
now here on radio eleven to tenkfab, Emery Sunger on News Radio eleven
ten kfab. Back and forth thathas been happening over the last half hour

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or so between Todd Blanche Trump attorneyand Michael Cohen. And there are several
people I thought that this was prettynotable. Several people that are saying things
about this trial that are in Congressthat are fairly notable. And there are
some people that have just decided thatthey are going to show up and today
among those who are in or havebeen in attendance today at the Donald Trump

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trial, Florida Representative Byron Donalds jdVance also looking at some of the others,
the veg Ramaswami, who had ascathing note this morning on the trial
itself and it being a sham anda scam and what the American public is
led to believe. Number two thatI found to be pretty interesting Doug Burgum,

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Doug Burgham or old Buddy. Heshowed up today, got all sorts
of dignitaries that had decided to showup, and maybe most notably for people
who are unsure about this guy andhis connection to the Republican Party these days.
Speaker of the House Mike Johnson wasthere at the trial this morning as
well. I saw Iowa Attorney GeneralBrenda Bird there yesterday, which she of

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course was attacked for, Oh,you're taking taxpayer money and flying the wash
or flying to New York to supportold Donald Trump. Huh. And she
made it very clear that it wasnot a taxpayer funded trip. She just
wanted to go there and show hersupport. She is an attorney after all.
So what does that mean? Whatdoes it mean that now there are

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kind of it becomes the growing clubof people who have decided they are going
to show up in this courtroom andsupport Donald Trump. Did you think we'd
be seeing Doug Bergham, vivek Ramaswamiand Byron Donald's all by themselves trying to
campaign for the running mate spot.No, that's not how this works.
But they all three showed up today, among others including Speaker of the House

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Mike Johnson jd Vance, And theyall showed up today at court so Donald
Trump could walk in with them likea little entourage. Do you think,
uh, Matt, do you thinkone of these guys he's trying to butter
up former President Trump so he couldget that VP nom and then just you
know it's gonna sound bad. TheVike's the kind of guy that is going

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to continuously talk about this being asham and then root for Donald Trump to
get convicted and then try to takehis spot as the candidate by the time
we get to the Republican National Convention. Don't you think he's been positioning himself
as just a young version of misterTrump, hasn't He? Is that unfair
of me to say, check meif I'm wrong, check me if you

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think that I'm out of bounds there. The vik just seems like the guy
that he's just like hanging around longenough to maybe slide into one of these
spots. Huh. I just wonderif Doug Burgham showed up with his credit
cards. There were gift cards.Gift cards, that's what it was.
Yeah, they were gift cards.I wonder if he used his gift card
money to get it to get outthere. You can't do that, can
you. He had to use itall to like pay the campaign staff,

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like campaign law. He probably rodehis horse there. Now. See,
this is why I would have votedfor him. Remember we did a Friday
at four of like stuff that youwish was the same that it was a
long time ago, and I said, riding a horse from point A to
point B. I feel like Doug'sthe kind of guy that probably still does
that, don't you think. Althoughhe did tear his achilles playing basketball on
the morning of a it was themorning of the first debate, remember that

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that's what happens when you played basketballin cowboy boots doesn't have the same kind
of traction. Yeah, you know, slipping and sliding all over the court.
You know, those air Jordan's area little bit more useful when you're
on the basketball harder book, betterthan the air John Wayne's the air John

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Wayne. Anyway, I'm not tryingto make fun of these guys. It
makes sense for them to go outof their way to U, you know,
post this stuff and say, hey, just taking a selfie with the
boys here outside the court the courtroom. Our boy Donnie is inside, and
you know we're gonna make sure thathe feels all the comfort that he needs.

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You know, I wonder did anybodyinvite Christy Nome? Probably not.
She's She's a little untouchable at thispoint. I think between Byron Donald's,
the Baker Amaswami, and Doug Bergham, you have three of the front running
candidates potentially to be that running mate. I just can't help but think this
is more political than it is supportive. Am I wrong for that? Here
on this Nebraska primary day, theseguys are literally just trying to like latch

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on to Donald Trump as an appendageand kind of utilize him being in court
as a way to elevate themselves nowlooking to curry favor. Is this the
kind of thing you know, likethere could only be one guy? Right?
And I'm not saying that these guysdon't really believe this is a sham.
I'm just saying they saw some randompeople show up yesterday and all of
a sudden they these this this fiveso at least showed up today with three

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of these guys like really being talkedabout as legitimate vice presidential material. I
don't know. Well, if youthink that, or you think that there's
something else going on with that,you can call in it. Four h
two five five eight eleven ten.Four h two five five eight eleven ten.
Also, it is primary day inNebraska, and we talked a lot
about what the ballots looked like yesterdayand what we can expect from the ballots

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as we, you know, moveforward into this evening. A couple of
things that were on my radar.We'll get to that as we move along
in this show. And also,don't forget in the next half hour,
I'm going to be giving away acouple of tickets to any Big ten Baseball
tournament game that you want. Infact, you could go to all of
them if you wanted to. Thosetickets are going to be on the line
coming up in a little bit tostick around for that too as we roll

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along. Emory Songer with you onnews Radio eleven ten KFAB. Emory's Songer
on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.Billy on the line. Billy, thanks
for calling in today. What it'son your mind? Every Thanks for having
me man. I just I hadto tell you I knew exactly what I
was going to vote for today.It's no doubt President Trump is the leader

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this country needs. I had readup on some of the issues before I
went to the my polling place today, but I got to the I got
to the congressional race, and that'sone which one. No, I'm in.
I'm a I'm a CD two voter. I'm a NOMA. Okay,
So that's for those out there,that's Don Bacon and Dan Frye. Right,
Yeah, I had, you know, years ago, I had even

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walked in parades with Don Bacon,and I just you were talking about Michael
Cohen, and it made me mademe think to call in because the attitude
with which Don Bacon carries himself nowreally reminded me of Michael Cohen. It's
this smug pretensions, I'm better thanyou attitude, and he can't even show

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up to the county party meetings anymore. In CD two, you know,
he can't even face his orders becauseof his votes at all. And it
just made the decision to vote forDan fry today that much easier. It
also really rubbed me the wrong waywhen he removed all his pro life messaging
from his website. You know itjust he tries to come off as a

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moderate some days and then he triesto come off as a conservative other days.
You see that in his messaging,and so I just my trust,
My trust was with Dan Fry todaywhen I cast my vote. Okay,
So, Billy, can I talkto you about this for a little bit?
Because absolutely? Yeah. Okay,So, so you're you're super convicted
on what you wanted to do inthis race, and I just want to
ask a few follow up questions.The first one is what was the straw

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that broke the camel's back? Wasit just Dan Fry entering the race or
was there something specific that you said. I'm just no longer a real fan
of of Don Bacon and you justwaited for somebody else to get in.
Well, where when was the pointwhere you're like, I want an alternative
for the Republican Party in district too? You know when when Don Bacon I

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follow things pretty closely on Twitter.That's where I get a lot of my
news nowadays, besides listening to yourgreat show. Thank you. But you
know, Don Bacon keeps saying hedidn't support Nance Pelosi's January sixth Committee.
Well, Nance Pelosi was Speaker ofthe House when he voted with thirty five
other Republicans to support the January sixthCommittee to politically persecute Donald Trump. And

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you know, it just comes outof political expediency to come around again and
support President Trump when it's easy forhim to do so. All the meanwhile,
leading up to things, he's standingwith, you know, warmongering neo
khon Warhawk. Uh what's her face? Bert Bird? Brain? Uh?
What's her? Who is the ladyrunning for president? Oh? Yeah,

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Nikki Haley. I forgot all abouther. Thank you, thank you.
But anyway, so that was thatwas tough. That was tough for me.
You know, you got Billy Billy, Billy started starting interrupt But I
so it had everything to do withyou just don't think that he's got Trump's
back mostly right, eventually that thatwas the straw that broke the camel's back,
Okay, But what really confirmed thingsfor me was his attitude with which

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he carries himself now and being dismissiveof the America First faction of the Republican
Party, constantly insulting his own constituents. Okay, So, so Billy's second
question I had for you, isit at all concerning to you that if
let's let's you know, again,this is all theoretical, but if Dan

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fry were to win the nomination todayof that district for the Republicans and Don
Bacon will be on his way outand then it's going to be Vargas for
the Democrats against Dan frye, isthere any concern that, knowing this is
a purple district, that that wouldgive Vargas a leg up because less independence

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would have a relatability with FRI's messagingversus Bacon's messaging, even though you say
that messaging is contradictory to a lotof what you believe as a Republican.
You know, Billy, I've livedhere all my life, and Nebraska's a
red state. There's there's no questionabout it. The district, too,
is a purple district. It electedJoe Biden by seven points in twenty TI,

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that's right, and you know whythat was was because voters had no
confidence in the Republican leadership coming outof the second Congressional District. So yeah,
okay, so Billy, what you'retelling me, and again I hate
the poke, but I'm just tryingto get as much information as i can
because you are so so informed aboutthis. I I you're telling me that

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Donald Trump himself was not powerful enoughto still get those people to show up
and vote for him in twenty twenty. That's not what I'm saying at all.
We didn't have we didn't have anybody. I was never contacted by my
local Republican Party in twenty twenty.I never heard from them, So you
need to know. So, Billy, but Billy, you needed the local

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over throw of Billy. You're theoverthrow of the Douglas County Republican Party at
our convention last last month, andwhat ended up happening was you saw people
who were getting engaged like never before, people who had felt like they didn't
have anybody who was looking out fortheir best insur Okay, So, Billy,
Billy, I don't have all dayto talk about this. I am
just trying to kind of get tothe nuts and crux of this because the

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voters are going to have their theirsay today and I'm excited to see what
that ends up looking like. Butjust for clarification, you're saying that you
think there are more Republicans that havenever been mobilized, even for a Donald
Trump candidate. They haven't been mobilizedlike you think. Dan fry cauld mobilize
them, not just today but inNovember. That's what you're saying. Absolutely,
he wins on principle and he winson policy, and Don Bacon constantly

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toting the line and siding with Democratsis not encouraging for Republican voters. That's
correct. All right, Well,Billy, I appreciate you calling in with
your informed opinion today. Thank youso much for being a part of our
show and listening to us. Wereally appreciate you and your call today.
Thank you, Emery. All right, man, just like pulling teeth there

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for a second, Let's go toPhil Phil's on our full line four two,
five, five, eight eleven ten. Phil, welcome to the show
today. What are you thinking about? Well, what I'm thinking about is
I was proud to cast my voteand with five other family members today for
Dan Frye for Congress and most ofall for wolves of the same really for

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Donald J. Trump for president.Now, why don't you quiz me?
Why? Well? I, Phil, you and I have had a lot
of conversations. But for our newlisteners who might not be familiar with Phil
and his passion for the subject,Phil, why did you cast your vote
for Dan Fry today? Because DonBacon voted to basically to criminalize anything to

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weaponize the federal government against the peopleout here. Number one. Number two,
he voted to keep diversity, equityand inclusion in the military of all,
and most recently, I believe hevoted to ban basically ban the New
Testament at college campuses because because ofthe definitions thereof Okay, I think that

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might be a broader statement. I'mnot sure I want to comment on that
specifically, but I'm going to askyou the same question. I think you
were on the line waiting while Iwas talking to Billy, and I'm going
to ask you the same question Iasked Billy. Is there any concern that
if Fry were to get the nominationthat there there would be more of a
window for Tony Vargus and the Democratsto steal this seat with independent voters who

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might not have as much in commonor as much connection to somebody like Fry
and what he has as his principles, there's fifteen thousand more republishing voters and
Democrat in congressional district too. Okay, yeah, but the pill but Phil,
Yeah, but Phil, you saythat, but there's even a larger,
you know, difference in the peoplethat say they're nonpartisan. You know

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what I mean. Well, soyou just say those are fifty percent.
Okay, just say that. Okay, those fifty Sure, you still got
a fifteen thousand vote advantage of Republicansover to Democrats. So in essence,
you have also a candidate in TonyVargas. Didn't he also vote to Tony
Vargas. Didn't he vote to makeit okay to do gender transition minor?

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Yeah? That yeah he did.And Phil, I will but Phil is
but Phil, but Phil, youand me are gonna him. But Phil,
you and me are going to agreeon that that that doesn't make sense
and it's wrong and it's not agood representation of Nebraska. But Phil,
Phil, let me let Phil,Phil, Phil, I got to put
you on mute because I need toget my point across before you start jumping
in on me. If you wantto talk to me, you can talk

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to me. I need you tolisten to me when I'm talking though.
Okay, so Tony Vargas did that. Sure, he's in support of that.
Democrats are generally in support of thatas well. There are a lot
of nonpartisans that don't care about thateither. They are going to be voting
on several things, not just theone thing, Phil. And that's all
I'm talking about with this. I'mjust I'm asking the question. I'm not

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saying you're wrong or you're right.I'm saying, are you at all concerned
that Dan Fry versus Tony Vargas isa window of opportunity for the Democrats to
steal this seat in November? That'sall the question was. We got more
people calling in and more people Iwant to talk to four h two five
five eight to eleven ten. Fourtwo five five eight to eleven ten.
And the only thing I ask is, please don't try to talk over me

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when I'm trying to jump in here. That's all I'm saying. But yeah,
four two five five eight eleven ten. We roll on news radio eleven
ten KFA. B Emery song Guyon news Radio eleven ten k FAB.
We talked to a couple of callers, Billy and Phil. They had their
own personal reasons why they didn't wantto support Don Bacon anymore. And you

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know that's just kind of what we'retalking about here, because that could certainly
change the way that people look atthe race in November if it ends up
being Fry versus Vargus and not arematch of Bacon versus Vargus, which Bacon
has won in the pass and hasrepeatedly been able to hold onto that seat.
Let's go to Jim. Jim's onour phone line four oh two five
eight eleven ten. Hello Jim,what's your thoughts? I am or Howry.

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I wanted to just add to acouple of previous callers. I know
Congressman Bacon. There are two thingsthat stick out for me this last year.
One is when he was the significantroadblock for Jim Jordan not to become
speaker. The one thing that alwaysbothered me is he always said it was

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about honor, and he kept talkingabout to read. That's why he didn't
want to stick Jim Jordan. AndI only got sight of my crow because
you know, he kept telling usthat he had more honor than Jim Jordan,
and I'm sure he's got a lotof honor and he served our country
well, but kind of surprised methat he put himself higher up on the

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total pool regarding what his interrification ofhonor was. And I think it's kind
of he's got a little DC arroganceby taking that position. The other thing
that has been bugging me lately hehas radio ads he keeps talking about taking
the lead on China to preventing Chinafrom buying farm land. I like to

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know what that looks like. Andhas the introduced to Bill every The first
time I've heard that he's taking thelead that China buying farm ground has been
in that radio spot. And Isure haven't seen the evidence of any congressional
artist. Okay, okay, SoJim, there's a lot to unpack here,
and Jim, I don't have likefive minutes in Oh look out,

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the emailers might come after me becauseI tried to stop Jim from talking for
too long. Jim, I appreciateall these thoughts. I just want to
ask the same question I've asked them. Any concern about the Republican Party being
at a disadvantage if they have amore conservative candidate against a Democrat in a
purple district. Oh? Absolutely,Charni Vargas would be a disaster. I

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think we can agree on that,but I I But what I'm saying is,
is there a chance, though theoretically, that this would give him an
easier lane to try to fill thatseat against a guy who is, you
know, Bacon's beating him. Ithink a lot of independent or nonpartisan voters
feel more comfortable with Bacon. I'mnot so sure they're all going to get

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down with Dan Fry. That's myonly concern, and that's all. That's
the only reason I'm asking. I'mnot in I'm not disagreeing with anything I
think. I think you're correct.The Democrafts will never vote for a Republican,
but the Republicans might not vote forthe conservative of a Republican. That
is something so right. It's Iappreciate the call, Jim. And that's

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something that we've seen real quick.We got Joey on the line. I
want to get to Joey. Joey, what's on your mind? Oh?
Hi? There? I went toit John Dacon town hall and he said
his district was thirty eight percent registeredRepublicans, registered Democrats that and the rest
were independent. Yes, So forme, I would love to see Dan
Frye get the nominations because after readingthe pamphlet of in four one one dot

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org his views, I want himon that balance so bad that he gets
taken down in a second and TonyVargus gets the nominated. Yeah, okay,
Joey. I appreciate everybody. Everybody, everybody calling in. I don't
know for certain, but based ontheir names, what they sound like to
me, sounds like white males.And if I was an older white male,

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you bet I would vote for Danfry Sure, sure, Joey,
And I gotta go what I appreciatethat? Uh Yeah, I'm not so
sure. Uh, I'm not surewe're going to be on the same page
there, Joey. We'll continue theconversation call us at four oh two,
five, five, eight to eleventen News Radio eleven ten KFA BA