Should Pot Be Legal?

Episode Transcript

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Marijuana a personal right here? Haveyou heard of her? Is that the
dupe that the young people seem tobe enjoyed via vape cigarettes and middle school
bathrooms these days? Oh? Yeah, yeah, middle school bathrooms. Well
that's it aggressive. Oh my god, I mean, I wouldn't know you.
I would I got a middle schoolerand that's happening. Oh my god.

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How they all got these vape pins. They're easy to conceal there,
you can't smell anything. They're constantlysucking on this stuff. That is terrible.
What happened to our society? Well, you could have asked that at
multiple points of society and had avery different answer. And that's our job
is to look back at the generationbehind us, the ones that we raise,
and go, what's wrong with them? Like we had nothing to do

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with it? Wait a second,does that technically include me because I'm younger
than you are. Well, you'vehad a lot of winners on your show,
so I figured that you just wantto take credit for everything, all
right, all right, all right, I see where we're going here.
Way to turn that around on me? All right? So, but marijuana,
it's it's a thing that has beenaround as long as plants probably have

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in some way, shape or form. And then when the humans found out
that this stuff was, you know, some of it had a quality that
could alter your brain for a while, it became popular in some small circles.
It got popular enough to where itwas considered a crisis by some.
I think when was it illegal?Probably like still now, yeah, but

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it was illegal everywhere, like andthought of it as a really bad thing.
Probably like eighty years ago. No, it was way longer. Well,
when did marijuana get outlacked? I'mgoing to ask it's been out lawed?
You mean the first time? Yeah, like the time that when they
are now just undoing state by stateright now, see Reefer madness, that

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kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably eighty ninety years ago.
Nineteen thirty seven, the Mara JuanaTax Act effectively made possession or transfer
of cannabis illegal through the United Statesunder federal law that excludes medical and industrial
uses, through an imposition of anexcise tax on all sales of hemp.

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Now, I'm a fiscal conservative.I don't want to get into too much
of a debate about fiscal conservatism here, but you can't talk about the growth
of marijuana in some states in someareas, and the increased use of it
without talking about the financial implications thatthis has, and that is definitely one
of the reasons why it is legalizedin a lot of places. There is

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a study that has been done bya man by the name of Jonathan Calkins.
Jonathan Hawkins is a professor at CarnegieMellon University. Jonathan Hawkins has information
on daily or almost daily use ofboth marijuana and alcohol from nineteen ninety through
twenty twenty two. In nineteen ninety, if I told you that roughly nine

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and a half million people in Americawere daily or nearly daily drinkers, what
amount of people would you think aredaily or nearly daily marijuana users in nineteen
ninety, Yes, sir, sevenand a half for alcohol, seven and
a half million for alcohol. Yeah, I probably something like seven hundred thousand.

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You are really good at this.Basically, just shy of a million,
Just shy of a million. It'soutlawed everywhere. People have to go
through very you know, dark backchannels to get it regularly. It was
a lot more fun, all right, Did I say that out loud?
Well, here's the other thing.Vegas has the same kind of thing.
Right, as soon as they startedopening Vegas for business and everybody felt like

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they had access to it, itgot a lot less fun for the people
that had been going for decades.That was the only reason why I ever
tried this stuff when I was ateenager in the nineties is because we weren't
supposed to do it, and itwas hard to get it. It's part
of the adventure. Yeah, Right. You had to know a guy whose
older brother knew a guy, andyou're like, all right, do you
have twenty bucks? You know,and then you'd get something and everyone pass

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it around and go, oh,we're probably bad, bad boys. Yeah,
we're probably smoking ditch weed. Idon't we didn't know, Yeah,
but you'd still like, I mean, that's the only way you would ever
have a chance to have it,right, Yeah, So from nineteen ninety
where that's the case and alcohol fullylegal for anyone over the age of twenty
one, which is still the case, and I mean there's is there There

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really isn't any exception for anybody,right unless you're buying it at a bar.
They can cut you off at abar. But if you're just like
going in and buying like a fifthof vodka or something at your local grocery
store. I mean, you know, people can have like they're not gonna
stop you if you have a legalidea. Yeah, some counties are dry.
It depends on that's true, isn'tit. Yeah? Yeah, overwhelmingly
yes. Okay, fast forward byabout twenty ten, you start seeing a

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little bit more action on people movingto get this stuff, a little bit
more available in a lot of differentways. The stigma is it's changing.
The previous generations start to say,why exactly is this illegal? Are we
sure this should be illegal? Ifyou had to guess at the number of

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alcohol daily, daily users by twentyten, daily alcohol users, it was
nine point five million or so innineteen ninety. What do you think that
number was in twenty ten. I'mguessing it didn't go up a lot.
I mean, we had much morepopulation, but daily or near daily alcohol

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that's I mean, that's a littledifferent from yeah, occasionally maybe a couple
times a week, but I wouldnot count, right, So I'm gonna
say we've gone up to twelve million, thirteen and a half thirteen and a
half by twenty ten. Okay,what do you think marijuana was in twenty
ten daily or near daily use.We've gone from just shy of a million
to in twenty ten. Yep,I'm gonna say probably five million, almost

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six just shy of six million.So it grew exponentially. And that's even
before widespread legalization of medicinal and recreationalin certain states. Fast forward to twenty
twenty two, twelve years after that, alcohol has jumped up to fourteen point
seven million people that are daily ornear daily. That has fluctuated a little
bit, but instead pretty steady.Since the year two thousand, marijuana has

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spiked up to seventeen point seven milliondaily users daily or near daily near daily.
Yeah, three million more than alcoholin a daily or near daily situation.
I have to ask, is thissomething with the we have eliminated the
stigma. How much of this isthe legalization in widespread areas. How much

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of this is people preferring marijuana toalcohol? Like these would be people that
in you know, thirty years ago, would have been predisposed to becoming alcohol
abusers or being addicted to alcohol,but instead now are on marijuana, which
they say they're not necessarily addicted to, or at least there's not addictive properties.
It's their brain that wants it everyday. I don't know how that's
different than addiction, but you knowthat's what they say, three million more

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and it is really skyrocketed over thelast five years. So I'm asking you
the kfab family, we can debatewithin this conversation why Iowa and Nebraska are
not legalizing marijuana for recreational use andtaking advantage of what seems to be a
growing population that would be willing topay whatever it takes to get it.
But also why do you think marijuanasales and marijuana interest is skyrocketing on a

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daily basis for people who are regularusers and now usurping alcohol, which has
been widespread available since the end ofprohibition back in the nineteen thirties and forties.
You can call us with your thoughtson this four h two five five
eight eleven ten. Four h twofive five eight eleven ten. We'd love
to talk to you on the show. Landin's on the line, Land and

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welcome to the show. What doyou think about this? Oh, I
think it's not really that shocking tounderstand that, you know, you spend
one hundred years telling somebody not todo something Now that they're seeing it become
legal in different states, more peopleI think are taking the risk of trying
something new, seeing if maybe itis for them. Plus we've seen over
the last thirty years duy cases havegotten far worse, more fatalities from DUIs.

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I mean, you look at theend of prohibition. According to my
grandpa, they used to have youknow, whiskey dispensers at work. I
mean, even alcohol after it's illegalprocess and becoming back to being legal,
people used it a lot more frequently. So I think anything that you tell
people a long time that they shouldn'tdo, and now they see that they

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can do, I think you're goingto see a spike in use. But
I think that'll point out once peoplekind of decide whether or not it's for
them. I mean, I knowseveral people that have put drinking alcohol period
recently, just because you know,body effects, it's affecting their mental state,
cognitive decline. And so I thinkalcohol used to just going away period

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just because it's the only substance weknow once you're addicted to, if you
quit it, cold turkey will killyou. Yeah. No. And there's
a big factor in all of thatas well. Land, and I guess
my thing is, if this isthe way that things are going, and
we're seeing all this money being madein different places, then why is in
Nebraska and Iowa getting in on that? On the recreational side of thing,

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I think it's still a little bitof the reefer madness. Unfortunately, I
don't think we've kept the times.I mean, when I was in college,
I smoked a lot of pot dailyand anytime I needed to quit for
a job, or now that Ihave a career where I do get drug
tested quite often, I don't smokeanymore. I mean, if I go
on vacation we're in a legal state, I might buy a joint or something

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and enjoy it a little bit.But you wouldn't fall into this daily use
study that they did. I wouldhave, but not now. I would
have been in that. But Imean it was one of those stuff says
you could take it or leave it. You ran out of pot. I
mean, you didn't freak out,you didn't have the shapes, no withdrawals.
It was just tough. Not aweek interesting, Lada, And I

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appreciate you calling in man, that'sgood stuff. Thanks for calling. Let's
go to Mark, Mark welcome tothe show. You're a themory on news
radio eleven ten KFB. Yeah,Hi there, Mike. Comment about pot
to alcohol is convenience anymore? Imean, sure, it's a whole lot.

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It's a whole lot easier carrying adimebag around, which is and it
is walking down the street with acase of beer. Yeah. And the
thing in like Nebraska and Iowa,and this is the other thing for for
marijuana, you can kind of justsmoke anywhere in places that it's legal,
whereas alcohol there's laws everywhere that youcan't have an open can of alcohol just
walking down the street of Omaha,you know what I mean. Well,

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that's true, but I'm talking justabout transporting it. You know, it's
a whole lot easier carrying a dimebag with you, and it is,
you know, having to go outand get in the trunk and get a
case of beer out. I don'tknow. That's just my Sure, that's
plausible for sure. Mark, appreciateyou calling in. Yeah, I mean,

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from this lonely observer's perspective, Idon't know much about marijuana. I'll
be honest with you, A verylimited experience at all around it, mostly
with edibles, not even but it'sjust I also like the the odor,
you know what I mean. Alot of people who are regular users the
odor eventually just doesn't bother them anymoreor isn't noticeable to them anymore, Whereas

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for somebody who's not generally around it, it becomes very stark, very immediate,
like, oh wow, I knowwhat I'm smelling. That's a pungent
smell that I'm smelling. I don'tknow, you know that that would be
the opposite effect. Yeah, itmight be easier to transport, but it's
definitely going to be more noticeable topeople around you that that is happening.
I don't know whether that matters topeople, and I don't know. Joe's

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on our phone line at four twofive five, eight eleven ten. Hello
Joe. What do you think aboutthis? Well? I don't know really
much about this, I guess,but I do have a story about marijuana.
When I first started working in theearly seventies, one of the guys
I worked with was a Korean Warveteran the Korean War, and he's just
to talk about going up onto thehillsides and cutting marijuana and drying it and

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then trading it to the cooks forbetter meals. So I guess it's been
used for a long time. Yeah, that sounds like, you know,
a little bribery action there, buthey, whatever works. Yeah, he
was getting fresh eggs and the otherguys weren't. Hey, you got to
use your resource as the best thatyou can. That's the true American way.

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I appreciate the call, joe Ye. Thanks. We have Sherry on
our phone line at four two fivefive eight eleven ten. Hello Sherry.
Hello, I guess why I thinkthe reason that Nebraska is going forward with
this is because there's still so fearmongering in this state, and it's at
the upper levels of our government officials, and you know, they have put

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out radio and TV commercials of thingsthat are not necessarily true and brainwashed people
in this state. I mean,there is scientific evidence through the endocannabinoid system
that this is you know, medicineto many different conditions, and especially with
cancer in our state, these peopleare on treatments for chemo wasting away until

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they're a skeleton. At least thiswould make them hungry and be able to
keep something down their nausea away andmaybe they could fight their disease and survive.
Yeah, and Sherry, I thinkwe can control the level of THHC
and a lot of this stuff too, which makes me feel like it's strange
that this kind of thing isn't Wearen't talking about regulating as much as we

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are just like scaring people that thisis a bad thing to do, right,
And you know, they learned aboutprohibition through liquor, and you know,
how come this isn't the same thing. You know, I use that,
I use that example a lot,but a lot of people tell me
that marijuana in twenty twenty four isdifferent than alcohol was in the nineteen twenties.

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And I don't know if that's trueor not, but it's worth talking
about, Sherry, And I appreciateyou calling in with your perspective on it.
Absolutely. Thank you. We'll continueto this conversation. You can call
in and be a part of it. Marijuana, why is the popularity on
a daily use basis increasing over alcohol? And what does that mean for Iowa
and Nebraska who are refusing to legalizeit recreationally. Call in at four oh

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two, five to five, eighteleven ten. We'll continue this conversation next
on News Radio eleven ten Kfab andMarie Sunger on news radio eleven ten kfab.
We're taking your calls. Four ohtwo, five to five eight eleven
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can't get through, be patient.We'll get to you as each caller gets
through. Here, we'll start withyour today, George, welcome to the

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show. What are you thinking abouton this? Hey? Brother? Growing
up in North Ombo on the sixtiesand seventies, everybody used marijuana and drink.
Being a bartender for forty years,I can attest to this. Okay,
just about every marijuana smoke or regularsmoker. I know drinks, but
most people that drink, I wouldsay fifty percent don't smoke marijuana. I

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can probably count a thousand people thatdo both, and I can count one
thousand straight drinkers, but I canprobably only pick out five people that strictly
smoke. So you say drink andsmoke. So as far as this daily
use thing, do you think thatthere are people being counted twice here?
I do. That's all true,because I mean I know for a fact

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that half the drink or smoke marijuanaon a regular basis, just the ones
that smoke marijuana all the time.I can't think of maybe five of them
that don't drink. Do you thinkthat there's a change maybe in the places
that you can buy it recreationally?Does that you think that changed the people?
I think it changes, And I'llgive you a for instance of the
bad part of marijuana. I'm sittingin a bar and work North thirtieth one

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Sunday afternoon. Guy I've known mywhole life, he's a drug dealer,
walks in, says hi, Isay, He sits down three chairs for
me. About ten minutes later,another drug dealer I know comes in,
says I say. I don't smokeor drink, so it doesn't matter.
I'm having a coke. They're gettinga fight over money. The one pulls
a gun out and shoot seattle inthe bar, so everybody runs outside to
please show up. I'm sitting theredrinking. My pop said, what happened?

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It looks like he got shot.He goes, yeah, he did.
He goes he did it. Isaid, Look, when one drug
dealer shoots another drug dealer, andain't none of George's business. He knows
who shot him. If he wantsto tell you, that's his business.
But you don't see that as ageneral rule in alcohol related stuff. They
just mostly fight and act like jackasses. Yeah, but that's the thing,

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George, is you know, mayberecreational legalization would eliminate some of this drug
dealer stuff, wasn't it. AbsolutelyThat's what I'm saying. That problem goes
away when you can walk to thestore and buy it, don't have to
deal with that stuff. I'm withyou, George. Hey, always good
stuff, man, Thanks for callingin right brother Bill's on the line.
Bill, You're with Emory on newsradio eleven ten kfab good afternoon. Hey,

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Hey, I'm a member of theFraternal Order of Herbsman. Since nineteen
eighty five, I've used it daily. I've had a bad problem with vodka
and cheap wine. I've not hadto drink since nineteen eighty nine. The
chances of the marijuana just flat outruin in your life is so much smaller.

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You can use it at work.I don't really necessarily recommend it so
much easier than you can with alcohol. Two I think has produced a lot
of those numbers, you know,and a lot of the people that are
daily users. I'm saying there wasprobably a lot more of them back then,
because you generally went out of yourway to not let that let that

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out, so to speak. Yeah, right, it was frowned upon by
society, right, right in general, you know, and you talk about
the financial aspect of it. We'relosing so much money to the states around
you taxes and that you got todouble you got to double up with what
we're ending trying to enforce it,right, And and and you know,

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the incarceration rate of this, eventhough I think most people at this stage
of the game, with more educationand just the change of society, it's
not as serious as maybe people sawit in the eighties, when you know,
it was the reefer madness and thewar on drugs and all that stuff,
right, you know. And andas far as the as far as
that goes to a lot of thedrug communities really don't mix that much.

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There's not that many shootings in themarijuana crowd. You start talking to math
crowd, you know, that's adifferent story, right. And nobody's trying
to legalize that stuff, that's forsure, all right. Bill. I
appreciate you for representing the what didyou call it, the the er of
Herbsman. Yeah, there you go, the Fraternal Order of the Herbsman or

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the fo fo H. Thanks forrepresenting the foh Bill. I appreciate you
calling in. Jim's on the line. Hello, Jim, what's on your
mind? Well, the only thingit boils down to me. I've tried
smoking from marijuana. I've tried thegummies, I've tried all that stuff.
You can make yourself a drink andit tastes good. Yeah, there is

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nothing you can do to that crapto make it taste good. I don't
know, man. I there wasa there was a song written by the
immortal Rick James who who said,you know, I mean, it tasted
real good for him. He wrotean entire song about it. I don't
see how. I'm not a smoker. I've never soked cigarette me either.

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I'm not used to that, youknow. Yeah, it's very it's very
harsh if you try it for thefirst time and you're not really interested,
and even in the gummy form,it just tastes awful. Yeah. Yeah,
So I'll go home and make myselfa drink and the drink will taste
good. And it's fully fully legaltoo, Jim, I mean, we

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get I think we all kind ofhave our preferences because nobody's stopping us from,
you know, mixing and matching andmixology for a drink. There's a
lot of fun to do in that. I don't know if there's the same
kind of enjoyment that one has increating marijuana products. But I could be
wrong. I don't know. That'sa good one. Hey, Jim with
appreciate it. Call Man, thanksfor listening. Uh yeah, we're continuing

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the conversation for two five five eighteleven ten where Mike is on the line.
Hello Mike, thanks for holding andbeing a part of our show today.
What's up, Emery, Good afternoon. I am also a foh nine
since nineteen eighty seven, since Iwas fifteen years old. So but you
know, I was watching an episodeof The Rockford Files the other day and
the legendary actor James call who wasa lifelong pot smoker as well, he

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was talking on the episode from seventyseven. He was like, well,
we're not going to have this alcoholpot debate again, Ari, So this
has been a long time mainstream topic. But you know, my thing is
is with this state emory is okay? So I look over at the casinos
and when they came in nineteen ninetyfive, the boats right, And I
watched in the state, and Iget good minded people and good minded politician

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if there is even such a thingas that anymore. They don't want to
degenerate society. And I totally understandthat. Yeah, but I watched over
there in Council Bluffs in the midnineties. When we used to call Council
Tucky, it was meth Capital,USA. And those boat those casinos over
there have done a lot of goodfor that city. That's a whole different
and it still got some issues,just like any city, but it's a
whole different city from what it usedto be. Oh and you can yeah,

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I mean Mike that I know you'veused Council Bluffs. I say you
could say that about a lot ofplaces that have casinos in their counties around
the entire state of Iowa. Well, I'm just you know, I'm not
familiar with that. I am familiarwith the Council Bluffs, So I'm just
going on that. But so Iwould look at you know, and the
state refused forever and now they are. Now you got some sports gambling legal
and stuff like that, and theyrefuse forever to capitalize on the money.

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And I look at the marijuana andyou look at the farmers in this state
and how they can really benefit fromfrom the marijuana and the hemp planet.
Yeah hemp too, Yeah for sure. And you're sitting there thinking, well,
that could obviously be probably you know, I'm no agriculturalist, but I
could think that would be good forthe land instead of corn and beans every
other year and stuff like that.Where you're putting that in. It could

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be a great revenue source for thisstate. But the state continues to you
know, we're not going to haveit the reaper madness issue. And I've
just never understood that because I thinkit's I get it, nobody wants a
degenerate society. We don't want tobecome me mouth USA. I get it.
But there is a lot of youknow, well, hey, maybe
we can get some property tax releasedin the state. That would I mean,

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you want it, you want it, And I've said this too,
I mean, that's the easiest wayto get it. It totally is.
But the fear that a lot ofpeople have that are anti pot are that,
well, you would legalize this withthe idea that it will lower property
taxes. But then go find wherethis stuff is legalized and tell us where
the tax relief came from for them. And there are some states and a

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lot of this stuff is democratic statesanyway, where they're not fiscally responsible with
the taxpayer money anyway. So Ithink that's I think that's a bad example.
But there are some questions as towhat really happens when they make that
money. But Mike, this isall all this is is you're getting your
social conservatism mixed up with your fiscalconservatism. And for some reason conservative memory.

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You know that. Yeah, andso am I I love I love
conservatism too, but I'm a fiscalconservative. I want money to like if
you can make money flow and stimulateour economy in different ways, That's what
I'm about. Baby. Let's let'smake that green. Two quick things,
Emory, every liberal I know wasa fiscal conservative. Everybody loves their money,

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right. But the one thing onthe dealer issue that the other guy
brought up, I will say this, there are cartels in this country,
like up in Montana, Idaho thatthey are growing pot and they are it
is a cartel industry. So ifNebraska was ever to do this, and
I think you know a guy likeCollin who's been better than I expected.

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You're going to have to have areal strong conservative leader in there to do
it, because there will be acartel factor that will want to come up
and get in involved into growing andtake it over. Because just because you're
like, well it's legalized, wecan grow it. That takes the dealer
out. It does not do that. You have to be there's always the
criminal element that's that's looking to enforcetheir way onto the legal side of that.

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So you have to have strong leadershipin the state if you were to
do that. Yeah, to cutthat all out now, I'm with you,
Mike. I appreciate the call asalways. Thanks with thoughts today.
Take care man, Yeah, youtoo. We'll keep keep the conversation going
here. As far as that lastpoint that he was making, if other
states have figured out ways to doit, and I know it might be
an undertaking, but the same thingwas said about sports gambling, and things

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have been changed. I mean,look at Iowa and the amount of money,
the millions and millions of dollars thathave been brought in in the first
handful of years they've had legalized sportsgambling. You can't tell me they're not
enjoying that money. You cannot.And I understand the degenerates society thing.
I understand protecting people from themselves,protecting people from potential addiction. But when
you are legalized tobacco products for theentirety of this entire country's history, you're

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legalized alcohol for all but a dozenyears or so in American history, and
you are refusing to acknowledge those sameprinciples and putting your conservative you know,
your social conservatism in front of yourfiscal conservatism. You can't keep complaining to
me about property taxes. That's allI'm saying about it. We can keep
this conversation to Roland. Marcy ison the line. Hello, Marci,

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thank you for being with us today. What are your thoughts on this?
My thoughts are right now. Iam passing the petition to get medical cannabis
on the ballot for the simple factthat I have an eleven year old that
has the and he takes over tenmeds a day, and I am winning

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it as an option for him becauseI know those meds cannot be good on
a growing boy. Sure, andone of them is even a controlled substance
because I have to show my driver'slicense to even get it. So I

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and they are talking about rescheduling itbecause it is not as bad as thing
as lots of people. See.Yeah, So Marcy when you say,
when you tell people your story,and like for me, I don't have
a kid, but I can totallyunderstand like if I had a like I
have dogs, and I still wantto do everything I possibly can help them

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live the healthiest life they can.And the science is telling you this stuff
could really help my son, andhe's already on a ton of drugs to
try to help himself out. Whois thinking that this is a bad idea?
Like, does anybody push back andsay, well, this is why
we don't want to do that foryour son. Oh there's people the minute
you mention the word marijuana, theytoldly think it's such a bad thing.

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And I don't think that they havedone the research, these people that think
it's so bad that I mean,I did not expect to have a son
that had seizures. You know,sometimes you just don't get it until it
happens to you for sure. AndI think if they look into it,

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like for Parkinson's and MS and cancerand all that they would realize that it
you know, this is a morenatural way to go. Yeah. No,
for sure, Mercy. No,And I think this is it makes
a lot of sense. And Ireally appreciate you calling in, Marci.
That's the powerful thing that can makea change in the way that people see

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this stuff. Yes, and Ido think I mean that tax money can
help our state, Oh for sure. For sure. Yeah, it's going
to be regulated. I don't thinkit's going to turn into something bad.
Like I always tell people, it'sthe people that want it that can get

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it. It's the people that needit, like medically that can't. No,
for sure. And that's the onething, Marcy that I really appreciate
you for sharing with us, isbecause maybe if you talk about the story
of an eleven year old and thatthis could really make a difference. I
think it strikes people a little bitdifferently. But I appreciate you calling in,
Marci. You have a great restof your day, you too,

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Thank you. Yeah, for sure. Let's get to Jeff real quick.
Hello, Jeff, thanks for beingon our show today. What's up.
Yes, I just want to makea comment about taste. First, I
think anytime you start something on fire, it's not going to taste very good,
whether it's a cigarette or a cigar. Sure like with like with cannabis
or with marijuana. If you usea vaporizer or something that heats it up,

(29:07):
the taste is completely different. Andthat's one way that I think people
like it. But the biggest problemI have. I mean, I come
from a small town in Nebraska,and I see how farmers are getting kind
of pigeonholed into just a few productsthat they can or crops that they can
really grow and make money with.And when you have a po central jail
break, you know, if thesystem doesn't get jail break, so farmers

(29:27):
can actually use and grow the productsfreely because it concede and regrow itself,
and we could have an economic boomhere in our state. But we're being
handcuffed, and I think the stateis going to continue to handcuff the people
until they, you know, getover this and move on and see the
good that this can do instead ofjust looking at the cases of bad.

(29:49):
I'm with you, Jeff, Ithink it's definitely worth revisiting now that the
stigma is changing quite a bit onit, and I appreciate you for calling
in, buddy, thanks for listeningto us. Yep, all right,
we'll continue this conversation. You cancall us with your thoughts one way or
another. You know, this iswhat I love about this conversation is there's
a lot of different angles, notjust the medicinal part part of it,
but it's the financial part of it. When you talk about recreational and you

(30:11):
talk about how many more people areusing it daily than alcohol, and is
it as dangerous? Has it ruinedas many lives as alcohol? And we
all know people that alcohol has ruinedtheir life or their family in a lot
of ways. Call us at fouroh two, five to five, eight
eleven ten. More on the Wayon news Radio eleven ten KFAB four oh
two five five eight eleven ten.We have Julie on the line. Julie,
thanks for holding and being part ofour show today. What do you

(30:33):
think about this? Hi? Iwanted to throw into the conversation. Back
in August, my son is ateenager and he became incredibly ill, could
not stop throwing up. Had torush into the emergency room where we had
to wait for hours for a diagnosis. Trying every medicine they had to try
to get him to stop growing up, and after all the test results everything

(30:56):
was run, he came back positivefor marijuana, and the emergency room doctor
explained to us that they are nowseen every day at least one, if
not more, teenagers and young peoplecoming into the emergency room Karen Omaha who
are now being diagnosed with cannabis inducedhyperemesis, meaning that the marijuana, the

(31:18):
medical marijuana, the marijuana that theywere smoking at the high school where my
son got it, is not themedical marijuana, the marijuana from the sixties.
It has been intentionally made much strongerand much more addictive so that people
will use it on a daily basis. But teenagers, kids, and I
feel terrible for the mom who calledwhose ten year old is having seizures.

(31:41):
Their bodies are not meant or designedto handle the strength of the marijuana that
is being passed around. So,Julia, can I just clarify a couple
of things. So, is thisstuff like you're talking about medicinal marijuana,
And obviously there are these dispensaries thatare kind of masquerading is potentially, you
know, medicinal marijuana, but maybearen't exactly that. I know that there's

(32:07):
some science around with the thchc contentlevels that they have to keep the THCHC
very low in a lot of thisstuff because it's not meant to alter the
brain. It's meant for the healingproperties of the plant itself. Where exactly
is this coming from? Is thissomebody just getting this and then passing it
around, or is this something thathas been prescribed to one of these people?

(32:28):
Like, how do we know exactlythe contents of this specific you know
strain that you're referencing here. Well, and that's a great point. The
thing is is that we don't know. I mean, someone can say it's
medical. We don't know where thedispensary is getting it. We don't know
where the kids at the high schoolwere getting It wasn't medical that they got
and passed around. Sure, youknow, we're not sure that I can

(32:51):
tell you. From the emergency roomdoctor is saying this is now becoming everyday
occurrence where this it's a new diagnosisthat years ago honestly never existed. Cannabis
induced hyper eemesis is now very realfor these kids who are coming into the
emergency room and it's just so unhealthy, and I would say the only way

(33:13):
medical marijuana should be available in Nebraskais if medical professionals agree that it should
be. And to the emergency roomdoctors that we spoke with, they were
all very adamant that this is reallyhurting these teams and these kids because they're
just not meant to processing. Yeah. Okay, so well, Julie,
can I can I step in againhere? I guess my question is with

(33:35):
legalization, like over arching legalization inother states, has come an overarching regulation
as well, and with the stateactually becoming involved it actually you know,
knowing where this stuff is coming from, knowing that they need certification to not
only grow it, but also tohave it and sell it. Do you
think that the legalization of this sortof thing, not necessarily just medicinally,

(33:59):
but even rec dationally would shine alight a little bit more on knowing what's
in there, where it's coming from, and being able to monitor that a
little bit more closely than the stuffthat you know is around that we just
have no idea where it came fromor what might necessarily be in it.
So I don't because there's currently onthe market to medications with THHD in it

(34:19):
that have been FDA approved specifically tohelp kids with seizures in medical so it's
already been on the market FDA approved, And FDA can't ever approve marijuana because
no two batches of marijuana will everbe like, you know, the sunlight
is not going to be the samefrom plant to plant, the chemicals are
not going to be the same.So there's no way the FDA is ever
going to approve because they won't knowwhat from leaf to leaf, what's in

(34:44):
it. Okay, if there's alreadya medical approved FDA approved with medicine and
it's not working, why are wetrying to put more on the market.
I think we should be looking atother options. Like what though, Julie,
I'm curios. I'm not like,I'm not trying to be facetious here.
I'm just I'm genuinely curious because wehad we hear stories from other people

(35:06):
that they have the opposite you know, reaction to this is, you know,
they gave their young person or theirold elderly person that has certain you
know, diseases or certain you knowdisabilities or something that's going on with their
body, and this kind of thinghas actually helped them again, I'm not
I'm not an expert scientifically on what'sin there or how they were prescribed that,
or where they even got it from. But I know that there's been

(35:29):
a lot of people even on thisshow so far today talking about the benefits
of, you know, having cannabisas an option. What you know,
what would be the alternative that youwould suggest for the people that are saying
that this would be what they wouldprefer. So, I would say a
friend of mine, who unfortunately passedfrom stage for cancer years ago, ordered

(35:51):
some marijuana. There was like teasand gummies. And I think for adults,
for elderly, if their bodies aredeveloped and that's their choice, then
at that point they can do whateverthey want. You to be super honest,
Okay, my concern is more forteens, kids whose bodies are still
developing, whose bodies aren't meant toprocess. So, Julia if right?

(36:15):
If I Julia, if I saidthat if they came in they wanted to
legalize it recreationally and medicinally in thestate of Nebraska and Iowa, and you
had to be twenty one with alegal idea to be able to purchase it,
would you be on board with that. No, you're never going to
convince me of it. But justand honestly, just from what I experienced
with my son and watching what hewent through and the er doctors, I

(36:38):
have to believe there's a better optionout there than something that could do this.
You are totally willing to have youropinion. I'm super happy that you
called in and shared that story withus. Julie, we really appreciate you
listening to our show. All right, thank you, have a good day.
Yep, you too. If youwant to call in, you can
four two five five eight eleven ten. Four A two five five eight eleven

(37:00):
ten. We're always welcoming of peoplewith very various opinions across the entire spectrum.
And we'll continue our conversation about marijuana, potential legalization and why it's becoming
more popular for daily use than alcohol. Is right here on news Radio eleven
ten KFA B and Marie Song fourh two five five eight eleven ten is
the phone number, and Ray ison our phone line. Ray, thank

(37:21):
you for calling in today. Whatdo you think about this? Well?
A lot of thank you for takingmy call. Anyway, a lot of
these parents aren't understanding that these kidsthat end up with the intestinal problems are
not smoking, just your regular runof the mill green flowery stuff. Yeah,

(37:42):
and that's why I Yeah, that'swhat one thing I was questioning with
our previous caller, Ray is shewas unable to tell me where this came
from. And I'm with you,it's just kind of like how many stories
exist like that. It's not verymany, And it's usually with people have
no idea where they got it,you know what I mean. Well,
yes, and it's the buttanes andstuff that are in them. Because I've

(38:06):
had several cousins. I'm older,I'm in my fifties, okay, and
I've I've been a regular green smoker, but I don't do any of the
other stuff. Now they have dabsand the bapes and all that stuff.
Yeah, and there's that's what I'vehad two cousins and they both had two
kids each be in the hospital severaltimes with severe intestinal problems. But it's

(38:28):
mainly because of the dabs and thebapes. Well, and that's the thing,
Ray, I as I hate tosay it, I'm going to say
it, Ti, Ray, I'mgoing to say it. How many kids
aged sixteen through twenty two probably havehad to go to the hospital to get
their stomach pump because they had toomuch liquor and they didn't know what they

(38:49):
were doing with that too, youknow what I mean, whole right like,
that number is probably pretty large,you know. So you know,
I'm not saying that any of thisis good. I'm just saying that kids
who don't have proper information or aretrying to be somewhat rebellious or trying new
things and they're not really sure whereit comes from. Kids don't have a

(39:09):
lot of thought to that sort ofthing. They just kind of do stuff.
But they learned the hard way ina lot of ways. And I'm
not trying to say that what ourprevious caller said had anything to do with
misinformation specifically. I'm saying that weneed to look at things a little bit
more, you know, with anunderstanding that there have been substances that have

(39:30):
been legalized that have created a lotof internal issues for some. I mean,
I've seen people throw up when theyput their first plug of chewing tobacco
in their mouth, right and theydon't know what they're doing, and they
get sick because of it, andit hurts their insides, you know what
I mean, Like, this isnot a new new thing to me,
you know what I mean, It'snot. And like I said, I've

(39:52):
been regulars long at least, andyou turned out just fine, right,
I mean, look at you.Yeah, and I've worked ten hours a
day. It's not. Yeah,well it's when we get into all the
other sidekicks that they put out therewith that stuff. So I appreciate the
call, right, Thanks for lendingyourself to the expertise of the matter.

(40:15):
I appreciate it. Thank you,Yeah, for sure. Lea's on our
phone line at four two five five, eight eleven ten. Hello Leo,
what do you got on your mind? Thank you so much for taking my
call. I really appreciate it.Yeah. Well, I use medical cannabis
illegally instead of opioids benzodiazepines. Said, it is en ketamine. So I

(40:37):
think I'm kind of a hero inmy own life. So yeah, can
you expand on that a little bit? Yeah? Absolutely. I have a
rare illness called complex regional paint syndrome, and I was initially misdiagnosed, and
I went through a lot with themedical world, and I was nodding off

(41:00):
on my couch grueling in front ofmy young fifteen year old daughter and husband,
and I kind of decided, like, I don't think I'm going to
survive this, and I did.That's the good part. But I just
started advocating with all my medical teamand said I'm not going to use these

(41:22):
I'm going to use cannabis. Andthat made a big difference for you.
I'm standing here talking to you today. I have in the state the last
nine years. I speak at legislature, I'm involved with several moments over those
nine years, Leah, has therebeen any change in the way that people

(41:44):
are seeing it from the people you'retalking to, Well, there's not a
lot of Julie's I meet out inthe street. I'll tell you that.
Okay, that's fair, fair enough, And again I don't want to discount
anything that Julie said, because everybodyhas their own experience. But again,
I I think there's a little bitmore to it than my kid tried some
marijuana and he got very, verysick. And when something like that happens

(42:07):
to you, I'm sure that you'refeeling like, hey, you know,
I want to do something to preventthis from happening to somebody else. But
I think a lot of it hasto do with just understanding where the stuff
that they're taking is coming from.Oh, I agree, and that's why
we're fighting for a regulated system,a medicinal system. And look, I
know the point of this is like, oh, adults are and kids are

(42:29):
using more, you know, cannabisthan alcohol. But let's talk about the
patients that don't even have any rightsin here, whether they're an adult or
their child. Fair enough, Lea, I appreciate the call. Thank you
so much for listening to us andbeing a part of the talk today.
Hey, thank you, and pleasefind the petitions. Yeah, there you
go. We found a way toget politics in there today. There we

(42:52):
go for twenty seven. Adam JohnRants, everybody else calling in. We're
going to get to you when wecome back, so stick around this conversation.
Ragees on Next on news radio eleventen kfab, Emri Sunger on news
radio eleven ten kfab. Marijuana nowis above alcohol in daily or near daily
users, which again that's not themedian user. The median alcohol drinker is

(43:14):
a four to five times a monthdrinker. I mean, that's not that
much, but there are still fourteenpoint seven million people. As far as
twenty twenty two, was concerned thatsaid they are daily or near daily users
of alcohol. But now the numberof daily or near daily users of marijuana
is jumped up to seventeen point sevenmillion people. And that is just thirty

(43:35):
two years after that number was underneatha single million people in this country.
Pretty wild? What does it mean? And what have we been talking about?
Like? Where are we going withthis? Is this showing us the
pathway to a market that could leadto legalization in our state? Or if
you're in Iowa your state, well, full lines are open. We're talking
about it. Four h two,five to five, eight eleven ten.

(43:58):
Adam is on the line, Adam, what's on your mind? Hem?
Thanks for taking my call. Soyou know, I feel like Nebraska is
probably going to be state forty nineout of fifty for any sort of legalization
with marijuana. I believe that thehigher ups have some sort of investment in
Firestone and Goodyear because they don't wantto fix the potholes. You legalize the
pot, put in a pot taxto fix the potholes. Now, jokes

(44:22):
aside, there are no medical thereare no recorded depths of marijuana in directly
direct marijuana use, right, yes, yes, whereas alcohol, like we
can look at the long term effectsdefinitely, And that's where making it from
a Schedule one marijuana to a Schedulethree opens up the possibility of much more

(44:45):
medical testing on it. I believethere's only one university that's allowed to do
studies, and I think it's Virginiaor Tennessee, I don't remember. But
and their marijuana is it's it's dirt. It's not the stuff that kids are
smoking nowadays. It's it's it's trackcompared to what we can get on at
forty two shades of green or whatever, you know, totally different stuff.

(45:07):
So basically like you can, yeah, go ahead. Well I was just
gonna say, you know, withthat being said, I think the stigma
has been changing over the last decade, and then the legalization in certain pockets
of the country have changed how peopleare viewing it. But they're still as
you've heard on this show, andI'm getting emails too, of saying I
don't want it anywhere near here.I don't like the smell. I think
it adds to a degenerative society.We don't need to break up families,

(45:30):
and this is something that can helpbreak up families. But I'm still trying
to figure out how this is anydifferent or worse than alcohol has been for
the last I don't know, threehundred years. And that's one hundred percent
true. It's not going to breakup a family anymore than it is a
dad who hits the bottle three timesbefore work, and then hits the bottles
at work, even hits the bottlewhen he comes home for work, and

(45:52):
then you know he's drunk and he'syelling at his wife because she made Hamburg
help her again. You know,that's totally different like Hamburg helper. For
the record, well, I mean, hey, we've all got our opinions
on Hamburger helper, just like we'vegot our opinions on on marijuana. I
don't want to get us into theHamburger helper. That's a real dangerous spot

(46:12):
for us to go. Adam,come on, you're telling me, But
so yeah, there. You know, I remember getting high when I was
nineteen and watching ree for Madness andjust laughing at the hilarity of it.
The stigma of oh, you're gonnayou're gonna call your face off if you
smoke a joint. And you know, there's there's a study. There's a
speech from a Cia H, aNixon aide, who said back in the

(46:37):
day, and I'll send you thequote, I'll email it to you,
where he says, if we couldvilify the hippies every night on TV and
associate them with marijuana, and wecould associate the Blacks with heroin, we
can. We can go into theircommunities and we could take down their leaders.
And we knew we were lying aboutthe drugs. We knew it wasn't
that bad. I mean, heroin'sa different story. But that's where it's

(46:58):
just, you know, it's thesocial perception. We're already here. We
heard what three commercials for alcohol justbefore well before you talk to me,
like, I think the first commercialfor the Super Bowl was a bud Light
commercial. Yeah, And that's whereit's just accepted these days, whereas everything
you know, it created, prohibitioncreates a black market. Yeah, so
if you legalize it, you cantake the power away from the cartels and

(47:22):
away from the drug dealers and youcan make some money. Yeah. No,
and Adam, I think that's abigger thing. A lot of people
are saying, well, look atsome of those states in the way they've
mismanaged that. I'm like, well, those are the first states, Oregon,
Colorado, those are the first statesthat legalize it. We've watched what
they've done. If you wanted todo that here, you could put into
the code where that relief for wherethat money is going to go, and
then people can vote on it andeither say yay or nay on it.

(47:43):
I think that's where we need togo. But Adam, I appreciate the
perspective today. This is definitely goodstuff. Thanks for listening to us.
I have a good one. Let'sgo to Rants. Rants is on a
phone line four oh two, fivefive, eight eleven ten, Hello Rants,
Well, good afternoon. I guessthe whole thing about this, I've
always been fairly pro getting the marijuanaon the you know, for legalized use

(48:08):
and everything like that. But overthe last probably six years or so,
I don't know when when it waslegalized in Colorado, the unintended consequences that
have turned me against it now isI don't have any I don't have any

(48:30):
problem with what you want to do. You know, if you spoken,
I really could have that and contraysthe previous person you were talking about,
or you said somebody I enjoyed thespell of it, you know, and
spoke for years. But I havea lot of friends in Colorado and especially

(48:51):
pumping Fort Collins, and when theylegalized it, we used We still to
Fort Collins and one of our favoriteplaces just enjoy, you know, down
there, kickback and go down onthe mall and stuff like that. They
they legalized it, the people havemoved in the area, have just trashed

(49:14):
it. Yeah, but but transcan great rants. Can I throw in
this fact? You know, likewhen Colorado legalized it, they were a
very small minority of states that hadactually legalized it for recreational use. There's
no criminal activity with marijuana as faras you if you wanted to buy it,

(49:35):
you could buy it in a legalway and not to worry about anything.
Nowadays, I mean, it's soprevalent. Do you really think that
we'd be welcoming a degenerate, youknow, population to Nebraska or Iowa knowing
that there's all sorts of places thatalready are legalized that have taken those people.
I would hope that, But Idon't think that's the issue. Is

(49:59):
they come in for all the otherpeople that are using and end up just
being panhandlers and stuff down there.And I mean it's I never thought we'd
see people on the street corners ofNebraska, you know, holding up the
signs will work or not will work, you know, but can't get a
job, help out and stuff likethat. They're all over here now,

(50:19):
you know. Yeah, and allthat stuff that we said would never happen
is happening. And I'm just carefulthat what what was the group was that
don't don't tread on the good lifeor so, I don't know what it
was, but I mean I wasa stoner back in the late sixties and
early seventies, you know, andI have lots of friends that are still.

(50:42):
But just what they've done is it'sthe ancillary things that happened. It's
not the necessarily the smokers or anythinglike that. And I kind of like
the idea of it being regulated.Yeah, but all the stuff that happens
around and I'm just going, no, man, that sure, sure,
no, I'm here. I'm herein your rants. And I appreciate the

(51:04):
call. Thanks for listening to us, buddy, appreciate it. Yeah.
So there's all that going on,right, and I'm hearing what he's saying.
I just think that there's another,you know, part of this that
we're not necessarily grasping onto that Ijust don't know. And that is how
the legislation would be written to makeit, you know, is beneficial for

(51:24):
the community, even for those whowould not be partaking, while also protecting
the communities from the degenerative nature thatsome of this stuff would happen. And
that's why we're talking about it.Joe's on the line, Joe, thank
you for being on the show.Are you there, Joe, Yeah,
Hey, what's up? Well,Okay, I heard it. I just
got in on a little bit.You were talking about kids getting sick,

(51:45):
and you know, I don't knowabout all that, but that could be
that they're doing this synthetic stuff thatthey're making, yeah, instead of just
doing the right And Joe, Joe, that particular caller that said that her
son had that issue, I Iasked, do you know where it came
from? And she couldn't tell me. And that's that has to be what

(52:07):
it is, isn't it. Andthen the other thing you're talking now that
so many more people are admitting thatthey're smoking weed every day. Well,
you got to think of the babyboomers. They're all retiring now that couldn't
smoke, did and then had ajob that they couldn't Now they're retiring,

(52:29):
they're back at it. Well,yeah, that's a There's another part of
this that's really uh interesting is peoplewho have lived long enough to see the
War on drugs begin and then noticehow marijuana was criminalized in how the perception
of it changed for an entire generationof people growing up in the you know,
seventies and eighties, and then howthings changed now for the kids in

(52:51):
gen z that grew up with thegrowing legalization and push for legalization of marijuana
as well. It's it's wild whathas happened with the the stigma and the
public opinion about this. Joe andI definitely think that we're not done with
the story yet, especially until allof the states have some sort of rule
on the books one way or another. But I appreciate the call, Buddy,
thanks for listening. You. Michael'son our phone line of four oh

(53:14):
two, five five, eight eleventen. Hello Michael. Hello, I'm
born and bred in Nebraska. That'sliving in Colorado. Okay, I've been
here about ten years okay, andI if Nebraska wants some property cash,
rene, please go with the onlinegambling. They don't want legal marijuana,

(53:35):
okay, well marijuana, no problem. You don't want this marijuana being legal.
Being a baby, baby boomer,I smoke my brains out growing up.
Sure marijuana today has nothing like that, the oppotency and just astronomical sure
across. I don't I don't seehow people could kind afforded yet high every

(54:00):
day. Well, yeah, forsure. In well and Michael, the
h that's the part of the regulation, right, And you talk about this
with tobacco products now that you know, just a you know, a pack
of cigarettes or cigars or even chewingtobacco, I mean that price is doubled
or tripled even from you know,fifteen years ago, because the government is
trying to tax people out of usingit as a habit while still counting the

(54:23):
profits when people still buy it,you know what I mean. Yeah,
it's so high that they're a goodblack market. Sure, it creates its
own black market because people are sellingit for cheaper on the street. Yeah
yeah, and when you're in theblack market, you're talking to cartel.
Sure. Well, and especially nowthat we have fentanyl that we're worrying about,

(54:46):
and you know the potency of thatobviously has created a lot of deaths.
But you know that's you don't wantto get mixed up with those people,
because that's how you get from somethinglike marijuana to you know, something
even larger if that person happens tobe peddling multiple things in a cartel.
Michael, appreciate you calling in withyour unique perspective and thanks for listening to
us all the way in Colorado.Yeah, Cornelius is on the line of

(55:09):
this should be fun. Cornelius.What's up? Oh, come on,
Cornelius. Cornelius. Hey, thereis Hey Cornelius. Yes, Hey,
So I would like to wreck referyou to a report. It's called Rocky

(55:31):
Mountain heidas HI DTA Colorado is aphenomenal case study where it was illegal,
it became for medical marijuana, andthen it became for recreational Yeah, after
reading the report, I would havea hard time believing that anybody would say

(55:52):
it's a good thing. Also,an online video produced by Idaho it's called
Chronics, state the cartel is involved. Big Tobacco is also involved with marijuana
in Colorado. In both places.Well, yeah, there was just a

(56:13):
study by Harvard that said individuals underthe age of twenty years old who use
marijuana regularly have a fifty increase inpsychosis diseases like schizophrenia, bipolar, all
those different types. Right, SoI guess, I guess, Cornelius,
Again, this would be the questionthat I would propose to you in this

(56:36):
situation. Would you with the regulationof this sort of thing, and you
have to be twenty one to buyit, do you think that would help
regulate who's getting it? Because anyof these kids of any age are able
to get a hold of it atschool or whatever because nobody's regulating it.
Yep. And they can do itin Colorado too. Look at the report,

(56:57):
the number of suspensions, the rumberof kids under the age of five
going to emergency rooms because of gettinga hold of it. They get a
hold of it, they will continueto get a hold of it, and
the black markets involved in it.All right, whether you tax it or
not, it's there, it's therehappening. Yeah, there's no there is

(57:17):
no way that a tax on marijuanawill pay for all this social ills.
Okay, I appreciate it. Cornelisrunning out of time here. We're going
to keep the conversation going though,so you can call us a four h
two, five, five, eightto eleven ten is we're talking I guess
the pros and cons of marijuana andwhether or not there's a future of it
here in Nebraska and Iowa on newsRadio eleven in KFAB. Conversation that is
permeated today is a study that cameout of Carnegie Mellon University. A professor

(57:43):
by the name of Jonathan Hawkins hasput together this study over the last thirty
five years or so, from nineteenyou know, just before nineteen ninety up
through twenty twenty two to this pointthat daily or near daily users of marijuana
have now you surp the number ofdaily or near daily users of alcohol.
Scott Boris is producing the show today, and first of all, Scott,

(58:05):
thanks for doing the workout on thephone lines today. I really appreciate the
hard work you're putting it in.Happy to help out. I would like
to ask you from your perspective.You know, we talked about your you
know, personal experience with Mary Jane, but a handful of times when I
was a teenager, sir, Idon't even remember what a handful means yeah,
a dozen. Yeah, so Imean I have even less experienced than

(58:30):
that. But to me, itseems like something that people generally would do
regularly if they did partake like.It's not I don't know many people who
enjoy marijuana who don't enjoy it regularly. It's not like going to the bar
and drinking with your friends and having, you know, three or four beverages
a day, or sorry, threeor four beverages a month. This is

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like the people who I know thatlike marijuana, it's just something that they
do, like pretty much every day. Would you think that that's pretty accurate,
that it's just a lot easier tobe a daily user of marijuana than
alcohol. So much easier. Allright, So here's a specific example circa
nineteen ninety five. I'm eighteen ishyears old and we had I was probably'll

(59:17):
maybe go back to ninety four.I was seventeen, but I hope my
parents aren't listening to this. Istill feel like I get to get in
trouble thirty years later. I thinkthe statute limitations is off on this one.
A buddy of mine I was workingwith decided we should retreat to his
car during a break from work,and we should smoke in his car,
And since it was kind of aslow day at work, I thought,
what a great idea. So wedid that, got in his car.

(59:39):
Of course we're in in this enclosedveal. We come out smelling like Cheech
and Chong rather than Scott and Andy. And we go back in there and
everyone immediately knows we were out inAndy's car smoking. The only person who
didn't really know was we had aboss, super great guy, very very
straight laced, maybe not as familiarwith certain smells and mannerisms. And so

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he looked at us and said,Andy, why are your eyes all red?
He goes, Oh, my contactsare bothering me. And he looks
at me and goes, Scott,why are your eyes all red? And
I said, Andy's contacts are botheringme. And we laughed for I don't
know until next Tuesday. We laughedforever. It was the funniest thing ever.
And He's like, okay, andso like everyone knew that we had

(01:00:29):
just fired one up because we smelledlike it. Well that's because that was
again back in the day. Youhad to know someone who knew a guy
whose older brother could get something.Get like a bag. He gave me
twenty bucks, and we'll give yousome adventure. Get a hold of it.
It was probably pencil shavings in abag. We didn't know. We
were just like, oh, here'stwenty bucks, and you know, you
get it. And sometimes he scoredand sometimes you got ditch weed. But

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you had to work at it,and you had to be really secretive about
it. Now it's on a vapepin that you and conceal in your pocket,
and even if you're right in themiddle of everyone, you take a
shot off your vape pen like,well, maybe it's nicotine in there.
You don't know, it doesn't smelllike anything. You can't immediately tell.
You have to. You have toget really up in it if you want

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to have the detect what's in there, or you take a couple of gummies,
and that's even easier, right,It's just it's so much easier.
Yeah, So, so okay,my pro what I'm saying is I'm jealous,
but I don't know. I mean, one of the reasons why I
didn't do it as much is becauseit got easy. I didn't want to
get in trouble. I want toget caught. I don't want to be
that guy. Right, It's gottenso easy that now it's like and the

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stigma is not quite as crazy aboutit. Right. And if I wonder
if I was a dumb seventeen yearold today rather than a dumb forty seven
year old, sure would I havedone it much more often? Probably?
Sure, it's just so much easier. Well, okay, so here's my
experience. I didn't even get anywhereclose to touching this stuff until I was

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like twenty seven, I think.And then I went to Vegas with a
couple of buddies who you know,it was a big bachelor party, but
a couple of the buddies, youknow, they were big partakers, and
you know, you just like youknow, every once in a while I
would partake with them. I'm nogood at it, you know, little
goes a long way for me.Went to Colorado once, and you know
that's part of the tourist thing youdo now as you go to a dispensary

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and see what's in there. Yeah, Pike's peak some real strong THHC.
You know, it's part of goinginto the state. And you got you
know, I did the pen thingbecause I don't. I don't like the
smell and I don't like smoke ingeneral. And i'd never, like I
said, I don't, I didn't, never exposed myself, never really tried
anything like that before. And it'sstill kind of harsh on your body if

(01:02:45):
I mean, like you take abig poll off one of those things,
and I mean I like you feellike you're about to die because you're coughing
so hard. Again, I'm asquare. I understand that. I'm I'm
not trying to say that that's theexperience for everybody, but that was my
experience with it. The gummies werekind of the change. I went to
San Diego once with a bunch ofguys and you know, me and a
guy shared some gummies and you knowthose, you know, will alter your

(01:03:06):
brain. I feel way worse whenI'm drunk. I feel way worse,
you know what I mean. Andthen when the high kind of wears off,
which is not it's I'll be honestwith you, like I drink enough
and I've been sick enough off ofalcohol before that it really wasn't anything.
But by dinner time, I waslike, I don't even feel anything anymore.
You know, when you're getting drunk. That isn't the case, right,

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So I guess my whole thing.The reason I say all this is
I have no experience with this,and I'm looking at it from essentially what
the rest of the world is talkingabout with it, and how the rest
of the world reacts to it,and the adjustment to the way that people
are viewing it. With the decriminalization, with a variety of states in different

(01:03:49):
parts of the country all saying youknow what, we are going to go
forward with either medicinal or recreational marijuana. The amount of money that is made
off of this as regulated, Ithink that we're not asking enough questions in
our area between Iowa and Nebraska asto what exactly could end up happening.
And I'm trying my best to hearthe arguments of people saying I don't want

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this in my community. But atthe same time, this sounds like the
exact argument people were making with gamblingand casinos. And now, I mean,
you look at Iowa and how muchmoney that they're raking in. I
mean, even the counties that don'thave casinos get part of that money based
on the state rules, and peopledrive to the casinos they have a great
time. A small percentage of themget addicted to gambling and have to repair

(01:04:34):
their life in some way. Youcould say the same about tobacco products.
You could say the same about alcohol. In a lot of ways, there's
a lot of vices that people ouraddicted. Pornography is another one that destroys
people's lives in different ways. Butfor a large majority, people go there
have fun. It's entertaining to them. It's entertainment for them. They put

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money into it, and the moneythat they don't get those casinos get.
And one of the big sit sedosis Prairie Meadows in Altoona, Iowa,
Central Iowa. They operate as anonprofit so they don't pocket that money.
That money goes to helping build facilitiesfor places that need them, like schools
or adjusting facilities. They bought anentire there's a college over there called Grand

(01:05:19):
View University. They bought an entirebuilding basically and built it for them with
the money that was made through thatcasino in Polk County. So all I'm
saying is a lot of people arelike, I don't want that degenerative stuff
around here. Yet the general public, even people who don't gamble because nobody's
making a gamble. Even people thatdon't go to these casinos are benefiting.

(01:05:40):
Their communities are benefiting off the moneygenerated by this thing that now got legalized.
Am I wrong for thinking that thisis a similar conversation. I don't
like building roads and bridges and schoolsoff of vices. These are things that
should be priorities. And if you'vegot something like a casino saying, hey,
we want to do something nice forthe community, like all right,
we'll clean up this park, willclean up the trash on the side of

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the road, something, not somethinglike oh, okay, we're going to
use the what we get from smokingand we're going to use that to pay
for children's health insurance. Well Idon't think that's directly what's happening. Well
it was for a while, butI'm here cigarette taxes have been used to
pay for supplemental children's health insurance programs, and I you know, if we're
trying to get people to stop smokingyet we need that money to pay for

(01:06:21):
necessary things, that's that makes zerosense. But then if you're like looking
at it from a standpoint of justfinancial like, well, there's a lot
of people that enjoy fentanyl, cocaine, and heroin. Let's just make all
this stuff legal because there are alot of people are like, you can
make heroin legal. I'm not goingto use it. Someone's going to be
chasing that dragon. We might aswell be trying to profit off it.

(01:06:44):
Let's tax it, let's do it. So where do we draw that line?
Is marijuana where we draw that line? Or before marijuana is where we
draw the line. It's your show. You're the one who gets to draw
lines. Well, I tend tothink that is if since marijuana has already
been legalized in a lot of placesin others, I've been able to find
ways to benefit off of that indifferent ways, and there are generally more

(01:07:05):
positive stories about that than negative stories. And again, I know a lot
of people are sharing with me theirnegative stories or things that they are seeing,
or their personal perspectives. But I'mlooking at things from a variety of
a spectrum of news. I'm notjust putting myself into one corner. I
feel like, at least on afiscal level, it would be irresponsible to

(01:07:26):
close that book, especially considering theproperty tax numbers that we have in Douglas
County. I'm just saying it's analternative. I obviously I think that the
health concerns of marijuana are nothing comparedto the health concerns for cocaine or heroin
or you know, stuff people actuallyhave died from. But I'm willing.
I'm willing to hear the argument.Obviously, I would not partake, it
would not affect my life at all. Accept it might save me some tax

(01:07:47):
money one day. But I dothink that it's a conversation that needs to
be happening in Nebraska and Iowa.Generally, at the top of the top,
the governors are just like, I'mnot interested in talking about this.
Let me just say a couple ofthings real quick. First of all,
I had more fun at the SnoopDog concert when everyone was high and just
sharing and having a great time andno one wanted to fight, They just

(01:08:08):
wanted to hang. I'd much ratherbe in that environment then Stone Tuple Pilots
where a guy cold cocked my buddyin the back of the head just because
he didn't like the look at theback of his head. Guy was way
drunk, And I'd rather be arounda bunch of guys smoking than just drinking
New excess that said. This studythat you've been siting here all day,
this that we have people in thiscountry who are daily or almost daily recreationally

(01:08:31):
using marijuana more so than alcohol.If you look a little further in that
study, it does say and we'veshown that people are getting addicted to marijuana.
Now, we've all been told fromlike, oh, marijuana is not
addictive, it's not a game thatkeeps you. So they've lied about that.
They know they've lied about it.And now we got a bunch of
middle school kids vaping in public bathroomsduring middle school hours. So you know,

(01:08:55):
if if they're willing to lie aboutthat, then you know in order
to say, well, we gotto have this, we got to have
that. Again, I think aline needs to be drawn somewhere. So
we'll take a break. I'll comeback. I have a follow up question
on that thought as we continue toroll on here five nineteen on News Radio
eleven ten kfab Emery's songer daily useof marijuana versus daily use of alcohol and

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how marijuana is now usurped alcohol indaily or near daily users under the United
States. And there's a lot ofthings that we've pointed to, whether it's
legalization, whether it's stigma changes,whether it's just people feeling like it's a
safer option. Generally speaking, Iguess from over here in the cheap seats,

(01:09:39):
completely inexperienced, I had no ideawhat I'm doing around marijuana. But
I'm totally comfortable with drinking at thispoint. Right. Drinking is drinking.
I drink stuff all the time.I have a water bottle full of water.
I drink. I've been drinking stuffsince I was a kid. Now,
your first sip of alcohol feels alittle weird, but the act of

(01:10:00):
drinking, you're drinking something. SinceI've been growing up, the act of
smoking anything has been oh, that'sa naughty, naughty thing, don't do
that. And I think that's somethingelse that people in this industry are trying
to overcome, is that, Hey, you can cook stuff, you can
make food, you have the veightpens and all that stuff. Like you
said, it's a lot easier todo or to partake in marijuana or you

(01:10:21):
know, things of that nature throughthat at a variety of ages. My
gut is telling me, though,even as somebody who would not generally be
interested in partaking, even if itwere legal in the place that I live,
that you could draw the line aftermarijuana on what we like stop at.

(01:10:45):
You know, people are saying inmy email like, well why not
stop at like prostitution, why notstop at you know, ABC drugs that
you know also could be involved.And my thing would be there are already
places that have tried recreational marijuana.There are a lot of people that don't
like how that society is either operatingor they think that, you know,

(01:11:08):
it's gone downhill in a variety ofways. I think that you could point
to a variety of factors, butI already know there are a ton of
people that get their hands on marijuanawith no regulation whatsoever. Regulation tells you
where it is from, what isin it, and gives you a way
to have that information before you evenpurchase it. And when you purchase it,
a lot of that money would betaxed and go to our government and

(01:11:30):
maybe give us relief in tax money, which again selfishly, that's the only
thing that I'm really thinking about hereis this is something that other states are
doing and benefiting from and we arenot. And I just think that it's
worth talking about. Even though weare trying, we are trying to split
our conservatism from social conservatism, whichis, oh, weed is bad and
we don't want it in our communities, from fiscal conservative for conservatism, which

(01:11:55):
is, we want industry, wewant to help agriculture, We want to
help our economy and stimulate our economyand also give our people tax breaks in
our communities. And marijuana is likethis great split of like you can get
all that stuff on the fiscal sideif you just can overcome your disdain on
the social side, and you're gonnahave to say no to one of those

(01:12:19):
two sides of your conservatism, whetherit's fiscal conservatism or social conservatism in this
conversation, because you can't tell meyou're a fiscal conservative and be advocating against
the legalization of recreational marijuana. Andyou also can't tell me that you're a
fiscal or a social conservative and say, well, you know, marijuana is
totally cool with me. You're justone or the other. And I think

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people are really conflicted by that,especially in the day and age now.
Where is inflation ever gonna stop?Like, we don't know. If you
have thoughts on this, you cancall us a four h two five to
five eight eleven ten. And thatnumber is how you reach me four O
two five five eight eleven ten fouror two five five eight eleven ten.
We'll talk to you more coming upNews Radio eleven ten KFAB Emrie Sunger on

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News Radio eleven ten KFAB. Conversationtoday is revolving around marijuana as a study
has come out by a professor namedJonathan Calkins from Carnegie Mellon University and it
says in twenty twenty two, threemillion more people were daily or near daily

(01:13:27):
users of marijuana than they were ofalcohol. That's a big change in the
way that marijuana is now perceived orused in the United States. We're talking
about the impact of that, maybewhat that could mean for potential future legalization
of such. We have the phonelines open at four h two five to
five, eight eleven ten, andFred is there. Fred, thank you
for being on the show today.What do you think? Yeah, I

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kind of wonder, you know whenwe talk about this, and it kind
of you know, when you talkabout a hangover the next day if you
go out and drink and it takesa day or so or to wear off,
or a half a five days orfive hours or whatever. But if
you can go smoke and it justgoes away within a half an hour,
which was more harmful to your body. Yeah, no, I think that

(01:14:13):
you're you're that's a I'm not abiologist, Fred, and I think that
probably would go a long way forme to understand exactly the effects of a
lot of this stuff in our body. You know, the proper answer if
you wanted to be like one hundredpercent healthy all the time is to stay
away from any of this stuff.Right, But well, yeah, who's
going to do that? Right?You go, you go to a borrow

(01:14:33):
and you have five six bears,and you get home or whatever, and
you have a couple more. Thensay, you know, that's maybe that's
the access or whatever. But youknow you've got to hang over the next
day. If you're smoking, thenyou do it in two or three hours
later you feel fine, right,And that is what I understand to be
true. You know, again,there are some things that people did to

(01:14:58):
cigarettes, though, Fred, astime we're on with the additives and the
chemicals and the nicotine and all thisstuff that made it more and more harmful
as time went on. It's nolonger just you know, homegrown. Every
day tobacco. And I think alot of the fear that we're hearing from
people now is that this isn't thesame stuff that we've been talking about over
the last several years. This isn'tjust all natural stuff. There's a chance

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that even with regulation, there mightbe some additive stuff put in here that
big farmer, big tobacco is goingto get involved with to try to make
sure that people are going to continueto give them profits. And that would
be the fear exactly exactly. Icould see your point on that. You
know, it's kind of it's ashame, you know. I mean,
you know it goes one way together. You know, I've been through alcohol

(01:15:44):
treatment myself, and one of thethings you know they tell you is one
day at a time. But youknow it might personally myself, I'd rather
smoke than drink. Yeah. No, And I think from what we know
about the destructive nature of regular alcoholuse, think there's nothing really good that
comes out of daily alcohol use.But either way, Fred, we're learning

(01:16:05):
as we go here in this thingcalled life. And I appreciate you for
dropping by and giving us your opiniontoday, for sure, scroll Yeah,
absolutely, this is why we dothis. We like to hear different perspectives
on this. Mary is on ourphone line of four O two five five
eight eleven ten. Hello Mary,hy, Emily, Hey, Scott and
Lucy. It was great to hearyou on the radio this morning, by

(01:16:26):
the way. But anyway, Iam for the legalization of marijuana. For
one, I know people that haveglaucoma and Parkinson's that it really really helps,
I mean immensely night and day.But another thing that is kind of
I'm totally for it because then itwould and I understand what you're talking about,

(01:16:48):
the additives and sutch, but youknow, you've got to look at
the pharmaceutical companies and all that stuff. When you see a commercial, all
the side effects are worse than whatyou had before you took the drug.
Sure, you know what I mean. Yeah, no, totally, you
know. But then you know,no matter if it's alcohol, a prescription

(01:17:10):
drugs, regardless, if you've gotan addictive personality, you're going to over
abuse. Suda said, for goingnesssake, Pop, you know what I
mean. Yeah, So you know, it's all about self control. And
I mean, I believe in dispensaries, but I also believe I've got a
green thumb. I would grow itif I could, sure, sure,

(01:17:31):
yeah. And I think that's theother thing too, with the decriminalization of
that, is that you could dosomething more homemade in that way. I
don't know what the regulations would belike that, but that I mean,
you would know exactly where that camefrom. And I know a lot of
the farmers as well, if theywere able to do things on their own,
I think they would get into thatbusiness as well, knowing how lucrative
it can be and knowing that theycould control all of it. Mary appreciate

(01:17:54):
the call today. Wait wait,wait wait, actually, Emery, yeah,
it actually deters Mosquitos too, bythe way. Oh okay, well
there you go, right all right, have a good day. Thanks Barry.
I appreciate it. Yeah, Mosquito'sa no friend of mine. That's
one bit of wildlife I could absolutelydo with that. Cindy's on our line.

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Cindy, thank you for being withus. You're with us on news
radio eleventh in KFAB. I I'mnot sure where to go with this because
I didn't get to listen to thewhole thing. That's all good Sindy,
just spitball whatever you were whatever's onyour mind. We can go from there.
I have a brother who tried everydrug imaginaball. He died at fifty
six from lung cancer. The THHClevel today in marijuana is so much higher

(01:18:43):
at an addictive level than it wasin nineteen ninety ninety two thousand. I'm
tired of hearing money the bottom dollarColorado. Ask them where their money's going.
It was supposed to go to theschool, not it's going to rehab
centers. The car accidents are upat top levels because and I will tell

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you, I'm way older than you, but I tried it twice and it
was illegal when I tried it,like forty fifty years ago. I don't
like Scott Voorhies. I mean itwas illegal and I tried it. All
I did was giggle, and itwas illegal, so I didn't want it.
But I still think it's an entrydrugs to other other things. I

(01:19:32):
get them done medical, I don'tknow. I do have friends who have
Parkinson's and other things and it hashelped them. I would go along with
that. But when you get medical, then that's like the fentanyl. That's
another thing. Oh my god,these pills that are coming in with the

(01:19:55):
car tills, well, the screwup these vapes story children. I'm just
afraid where all of this is going. Yeah, I'm hearing all your concern
Cindy, and this is why we'rehaving the conversation. I'm hearing the almighty
dollar conversation. I am. Ijust I know from my perspective right other
states are trying it, They're experimentingwith the ways that they're legislating it,

(01:20:17):
and I just see our high propertytaxes as something that might have an ability
to alleviate here while also decriminalizing somethingthat generally isn't going to radically affect a
majority of the population, kind oflike the casino and gambling thing. I
know that there's a degenerative nature tothat, but it's degenerating a ton of
money, millions and millions of dollarsa year in Iowa and Nebraska. SE's

(01:20:40):
none of that dollars, even thoughit's literally just like right across the river,
like there's a bunch of them rightacross the river. So you know,
that's kind of where the almighty dollarconversation comes from. I'm not saying
that we shouldn't be able to debateit. Though, for the reasons that
you've also mentioned. So I appreciatethe call, Cindy, and we thank
you for listening to us. Martha'son our phone Linet four two five five
eleven ten, Hello Martha, whatare your thoughts on this? That's a

(01:21:03):
concerned parent of teenage kids. Ibelieve that it needs to be a lot
more regulated, and uh, they'renot doing that here. Oh yeah,
if you look at the news,they've actually mentioned about been at all being
laced with marijuana. And I'm amom of a teenage of fifteen year old

(01:21:28):
who I've caught it. And Imean, I'm the parent that constantly tested
my kids, right, you're notYou're not not paying attention. Yeah,
yeah, I pay attention to theirattitude and so I test them every now
and then. I will test theirfriends because they hang around with my when
my kids and my kids came uppositive twice. Wow, And I've had

(01:21:48):
I've actually sat down and I toldhim, like, if you really feel
that you need it, because I'vespoken to other parents that say that they
feel that their kids really needs it, that they act a lot better and
whatever. Right on a medicinal level, though not like a recreational level.
Well, I guess there's a recreationalbut they're using it like, oh I

(01:22:11):
feel better when I used it.That's what they tell their parents. So
I came down to the point whereI'm like, okay, son, I'm
rather you be safe then you diefrom an overdose. So I did tell
them, if you feel that youreally really need it, and I have,
I will go ahead and buy itfor you, because at least I

(01:22:33):
know that you're going to be buyingit from a safe place, because these
kids are getting it from the bathroom. And I think we should start targeting
the high schools. I believe thatsomebody in the high schools is getting a
piece of the pie because nobody seemsto care. I went to my kid
came up positive. I went toschool. I talked to school everybody that

(01:22:56):
I needed to. I made apolice report that I would unable to make
a police report because they said therewas no crime committed. Sure, well,
Martha, I wish I wish youwell on this journey. Obviously you're
in a concerned police position, butI appreciate you calling in. Okay,
Martha, thank you, yep,have a good one. Mike, what
do you got in your mind.I really wish using physical conservatives as an

(01:23:21):
excuse to legalize drugs. Physical conservativehas never been about raising taxes on anybody.
It's about reducing government spending on thestupid stuff they do, like say
in student loans off and okay,all that stuff. It's never been about
raising taxes ever. Okay, butI'm not raising I'm not raising taxes,

(01:23:42):
Mike, fiscal conservatism. I'm tryingto cut taxes by using like like putting
something like sports gambling or recreational marijuanaas an option for people who want to
partake, and we all benefit fromthe tax break that. That's That's what
I'm saying. Yeah, with atax, you're after a tax. No,
I'm after a tax for people thatare choosing to partake in sports gambling
or marijuana, and I the taxpayerfor my property taxes. I get my

(01:24:06):
property taxes relieved and I don't haveto do a thing. That's all I'm
saying, Well, why don't youget your government lower spending instead of looking
at more revenue. Like it's atax. It's a tax on something that
people are choosing to do. It'snot something that people are being forced to
do. Mike, I'm not taxingeverybody for this. I'm taxing people who
want marijuana, and you're exposing morepeople to addiction and more lives ruined.

(01:24:30):
Okay, Well ask Iowa how that'sgoing for their sports gambling. They're making
millions and millions of dollars. Whatproblems have they had on that? Any?
I mean they got this? Doesthat ring a beil? Yeah?
How many people are in that?Mike? How many people are in alcoholics?
Anonymous? Do you want us tooutlaw alcohol? To Mike? Like,
is that what you would rather have? Is we go back to prohibition
because that works so well when wefirst did it, right, because it's

(01:24:51):
the same principle. No, it'snot. How is it? Yeah,
it's legal right now, but itis. You're telling me that alcohol is
no more dangerous than marijuana or agambling is. It's absolutely way more dangerous
than both of those are. It'swrecked more families than both of those probably
combined. So what are we arguinghere? We're arguing principles. I'm saying

(01:25:12):
fiscal conservative is the way I operatethrough taxes is Hey, we can give
everybody in Omaha or Douglas County aproperty tax cut because we have legalized marijuana.
That's something that could happen. Peoplewill still maybe want to buy marijuana
legally in that situation, and thetax money the state generates goes straight to
the rest of the tax paying publicthat they don't have to pay as much

(01:25:34):
money on their property taxes. Sowe complain about the roads not getting fixed,
we complain about not having low propertytaxes in this state because we do
have high property taxes in all ofNebraska. All I'm saying is, I'm
giving you an option a way thatwe can lower that while generating more revenue
for our economy, stimulating our economy, and also, Mike having a chance

(01:25:55):
to, you know, do thatwithout generally the public having to choose how
that's working out. I'm Colorado isdoing what they do. We don't have
to have the exact same rules asColorado. Mike. I'm just I don't
know. I appreciate the call,though, and thank thanks for calling in.
Sorry I can't get to all theother calls. My apologies, just
ran out of time today. Look, and I'm not trying to say marijuana

(01:26:17):
is a great thing. I'm nottrying to say any drug is a great
thing. But you can't tell mealcohol is fine because it's legal when it
has absolutely way more negative effects ona family and a body over the history
of time than marijuana has. Ifanything, they're the exact same. We're
just vilified one because you smoke itand send a drink it. That's all
I'm saying. I'm just saying,if somebody says I'll take fifty percent off

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your property taxes, I'm going tolisten to whatever they have to say about
how they're going to do that,and I think maybe we should too.
Anyway, five point fifty six Thanksto Scott Bories for producing, Thank you
for listening. Emery Songers signing offnews Ready eleven ten kfab