Open Phone Line Friday: Weed in Nebraska

Episode Transcript

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Hello, thank you for listening tous, says we trudge through trutch?
Is that too negative of a firmfor a Friday as we fly glide through
a Friday? Trudge through the sledge, because that's what it kind of has
been this week, hasn't it?Walk slowly and with heavy steps, typically

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because of exhaustion or harsh conditions.Oh, trudge, Yeah, probably not?
What is it? Trudge? Antonymdrudge sounds like a good crunge band.
Drudge, drudge, trudge, trudgethis Friday night? Oh yeah,
all right, So coast breeze whiskwhisk, whisk waft hover glide glide.

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Yeah, so there you go.We are. We are gliding through this
Friday. Although, did you getwaking up by a siren or two?
Yeah? Because I did, liketwo o'clock or something like that. You
know, I fell asleep at likenine nine fifteen or something like that on
accident, went on a jog.Eh, wore myself out a little tired.

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Usually Thursdays are kind of the daywhere I crash a little earlier because
I'm doing so much stuff during theweek and it's just like I'm really tired
by the time I wake up todo that the Moines show on Thursday morning,
and then I just like crash atthe end of my day and I
crashed, and then I slowly trudgedup to bed and then fell back asleep,
only to be woken up a couplehours after that because I slept the

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first few hours on the couch andthen got up to bed and I heard
the siren and then my phone hada notification that there was a tornado warning
nearby, and there were and Iflipped on KFAB. Wow, we had
live people on all night long makingsure people were safe. Those guys are
incredible. Shout out to the entireteam, the overnight team. Holy cow,

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just an insane amount of work thatgoes into that sort of thing.
And we've we've been a part ofa lot of storm cover to this spring.
Have you ever been a part ofas much storm coverage as we've had
this spring? No, not evenclose. So I mean, you throw
that in there, and you know, then you throw in these fantastic people
that did everything that they did,Lucy Chapman, Scott for Hees, Terry

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Lahey, just incredible stuff. Socongrats to them on a job well done.
And this is why we do whatwe do, although there are people
Matt and I need fact checked hereand I'll talk a few things. And
by the way, if you wantto call in, you can four row
two, five, five, eight, eleven ten. And we had a

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lot of conversation yesterday about marijuana,marijuana's potential legalization, marijuana as a alternative
to alcohol for a lot of people, as far as daily use is concerned,
and what reasons that might be rightall that stuff. And Matt,
I take a lot of calls.I mean, I don't know. I
mean, I took probably at leastfifty calls yesterday. I mean it was

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a lot. And I had someoneemail and these are the kind of emails
that I understand that I'm going toget and I'm not trying to avoid them.
I'm not trying to avoid them,but they they they're an anonymous email.
Of course, you know, thepeople that want to be very critical

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of the things that they hear,they don't want to attach their name to
anything, even though I have myname attached to everything that I do.
You know what I'm saying, I'mnot trying. I'm not trying to be
but I just wanted to share,you know, a thought, and I'm
just gonna paraphrase. I'm not goingto read this entire thing that they wrote
me, but basically they're saying theydisagree with my stance, which I think

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I said. I would listen tothe idea of legalizing marijuana on a medicinal
and a recreational level because other placesare doing it, and they're making a
lot of money, and we canmake a lot of that money too.
I've said that that's my position.There's a lot of people that disagree with
that on a fiscal level, sayingthat it wouldn't go towards the taxes like
many think it would. And thereare some people that disagree on a social

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level, saying that we don't wantthat kind of degenerative behavior being promoted by
our society and profiting off of it. So I understand all that, But
this person said, and this,I'm just clarifying this because I want to
make sure that people understand where I'mcoming from and like what I'm doing here
as the mediator of a lot ofthis discussion. This person said that I

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am biased toward my own opinion,and I don't I always shoot down or
shut down people who are not infavor of my opinion, and Matt,
I get animated sometimes you can attestto this, you know, I'm an
animated guy. Yeah, for sure. Sometimes there are people that call in
and we you know, we goafter each other a little bit, which
I think is healthy. I thinkit's good. You know what I'm saying.

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Uh. But I don't feel likeI shut down people. I feel
like I ask questions to challenge theirposition. I feel like if somebody disagrees
with my perspective, I want tochallenge what they think because I don't want
you know, we could Well,what fun is it for me to take
all these calls just to agree withevery single person that calls in. It's
like, oh wow, what agreat what a great call that was,

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Thank you for your opinion. NowI changed my mind to agree with you.
Now you are actually a big partof the show. Like I debate
actively with the listeners all the time. Give me another person that does that.
That's just part of what I wantto do here. And I'm sorry
if it comes across like I'm biasedtoward my own opinion. But isn't everybody

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kind of biased toward their own opinion? Is there anybody out there that is
so unsure of their own opinions thatthey will be willing to change their approach
to a discussion about them, becausethey would so easily be open to changing
their mind on stuff. No,when people called and disagreed, and I
think at least half of them disagreedwith me yesterday for a variety of reasons,

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I just asked questions about their position, challenged their position. I never
once hung up on somebody and neveronce yelled at anybody, except got a
little animated towards the end of theshow there because I had a caller who
basically was giving me a bunch ofstuff about the legalization of marijuana that I
just didn't find to be either accurateor true, and I just challenged this
person. This person kept coming backat me with no real evidence or facts,

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and I kept challenge Kalent, challenging. I hope that that's educational.
I hope that people are enjoying that. And if you have any questions about
the way that we do the show, feel free to email me. Like
this person, I'd love to knowyour name, so I could, you
know, talk to you like areal person instead of just an anonymous you
know, Keyboard Warrior. But I'mglad that people want to reach out to
me. I just hope that it'snot coming across like I'm only preaching my

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opinion, and I'm preaching my opinionthat you may not always agree with.
And I think that's also healthy.But we're going to share our opinions and
be strong in our opinions, andif you share your opinion with me,
I'm going to ask you about it. I have a platform to tell you
my opinion and exacerbate as long asI want. I don't have to take
any phone calls, but I do, and if you disagree with me,

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I try to give people as manyopportunities to explain their legitimate position as possible.
So my investigation or my questions ormy discussion with the listeners isn't about
trying to shut anybody down or tellanybody that they're wrong. It's about investigating
what their position is in a waythat we all can understand it and give

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us different angles or perspectives even ifwe do disagree with them. I think
that's healthy. If you want tobe a part of our show today,
we have an open phone line Friday. Anything you want to talk about is
on the table. You can callin right now four oh two five to
five eight eleven ten. Four ohtwo five five eight eleven ten. We
can talk about anything from the Trumprally in the Bronx to what we talked
about yesterday with the potential legalizing ofmarijuana based on higher usage than daily alcohol

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use these days. And we'll alsohave a Friday for and something that happened
in my house this week I wantto share with you that I think could
probably or potentially prove wrong. Oneof the most common advices married couples are
given when they get married for thefirst time. That and plenty more again,
call us with anything at four htwo five five eight to eleven ten,

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four h two five five eight toeleven ten, News Radio eleven ten
KFAB. A lot of people saythis is kind of the unofficial kickoff of
their summers. School is out fora lot of people at that point,
most people, I would guess,I guess. I don't know specifically in
a lot of cases, but Isaw a ton of kids out with their
families and their friends here this morningover at the zoo, and I don't

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know, there's just a there's somethingfun and magical about being with the you
know, people who have a lotof passion for their job, and that's,
you know, the vibe that Iget with everybody who's over there taking
care of all of those animals,plants, bugs, invertebrates, et cetera
at Henry Dorley Zoo and Aquarium.So I wanted to shout out, then,

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what an awesome time that was.Appreciate JC taking my wife and I
around on a little tour today.And it's an open phone line Friday,
so we can talk about anything thatyou want. Brian's on our phone line
of four h two five five,eight eleven ten. Okay, Brian,
what's up? Yeah. I don'tknow if anyone mentioned the Nebraskan stru medical
Marijuana petition going around, but ifyou go to Nebraska's for Medical Marijuana or

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Nebraska Marijuana dot org you can findout where to sign. There's just a
little over a month left for that. Also, I thought you might be
interested in hearing how I helped restartthe legalization ofment in Nebraska in nineteen eighty
nine along with two friends. SoI mean, I will ask Brian,
because how did that happen? BecauseI know that it's still incredibly controversial in

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these parts and very very highly regulatedbecause it isn't necessarily legal in a lot
of ways that we would you seein different states around the country. Well,
there had been a Normal group inNebraska in the seventies, a student
group that had shut down put theirstuff in a box. Then in nineteen
eighty nine me and some other studentfriends retired of the drug war and formed

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UNL Normal HEMP UNL for being astudent group, Normal for National Organization for
the former of marijuana laws and Hempfor Help and marijuana prohibition, which was
back Hara's group. Harrah thought noneof us was being done by Normal,
so he started barnstorming the country andwe sold his book The Emperor Wears No

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Clothes. He Balls A hemp twinewas the first hemp products a lot of
people had seen, and we educatedon that at a booth state Fair,
and we even had three eleven playat one of our benefits. A typical
day would be with rally at thestudent Union and walk to the Capitol rally
there and then have a benefit concertthat night. That was when they were

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just getting started and would have bannsitfree. Well, it's interesting Brian,
and you know, as metch aswe generally disagree on most things politically,
I do commend you for your passionfor the things that you feel are right
in this country, and I appreciateyou sharing that experience with us today.
Yeah, some of the people inthat group are still circulating petitions, so

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to sign one if you haven't already. Okay, Brian, appreciate the call.
Thanks for listening to us. FunUh yeah again. The marijuana conversation
I think has kind of evolved fromthe late eighties in the you know,
real heat of the battle and thewar on drugs during the regular administration is
into what you know we have now. Like I said, the study that

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I was citing from Carnegie Mellon Universityyesterday was generally, you know, specifically
all about the growth of daily marijuanause in this country from nineteen ninety basically
to twenty twenty two, and hownow it is usurped alcohol use on a
daily basis. Matt, you weren'there yesterday, so I just want to

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ask you real quick your opinion.Why do you think marijuana daily or near
daily use of marijuana has now usurpeddaily or near daily use of alcohol in
this country, Like, what whatfactor do you think plays The biggest part
of that one for sure is access, sure, I think, and I

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think that's a big one. Accessand even in the access of those specific
places. Also, the stigma isjust like totally different than it was even
ten years ago because now people arejust so used to it just being around.
I think that function two. Ithink that people can I mean,

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I know people who will intake throughouttheir daily lives and go about their daily
lives. There are people who dothat with alcohol too. Neither are a
good idea or a safe idea,But I think that for one, there's
no hangover, right, That's apart of it, for sure. I

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don't know. It's a complicated conversation. And I do think like overall,
if one is going to be legaland the other isn't, the only reason
is because one was normalized in thesociety of when this country was founded and
the other wasn't. That's the onlyreason. Well, in tobacco versus marijuana,
I think is very interesting because Ithink tobacco, big tobacco, as

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many people you refer to it asbig tobacco, combated anything that would be
challenging to it as a potential vicefor people, and then the additives that
increased and increased and increased as timehas gone on. So many people talk
about the the I mean tobacco products, it's chewing tobacco, or cigarettes or

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cigars or anything related to that.The makeup of that has changed drastically over
the decades. And obviously our knowledgeof what smoking does to people, or
chewing does to people, what thatdoes for their health, we know a
lot more now than we did onehundred years ago, when a lot of
that stuff was still prevalent in alot of ways. But certainly there are

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people in those industries that want totry to keep marijuana down if they're not
getting into the business. We've allalready heard, you know, some big
tobacco getting involved in some marijuana businessin some of these states that are legalized
because they don't want to lose theirprofits. Knowing that tobacco use is going
down as you would think it shouldwith that increased intelligence and education. Nick

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is on our phone line at four, two, five, five, eight
to eleven ten. Nick, welcometo the show today. What's on your
mind? Hey, yeah, youknow I'm here for the weekend I'm originally
from the area here for Memorial Day, and I just heard about discussion you
guys had yesterday in the show aboutlegalizing marijuana and stuff. I would be
really devastated if this happened to myhome state. Yeah, why do you

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say that, Nick? You know, I just you know, going around
the country and seeing all these citiesand states that have legalized it, It's
like all the Democrats run cities thatare degenerate and stuff, and I just
don't want to see all these people, you know, in the streets and
in my hometown and whatnot. Yeah, No, I'm hearing you, Nick.
I guess my bigger question would be, do you have specific examples that

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you could relate specifically to marijuana ordo you think it's a bigger, you
know, social issue with some ofthe other substances that are out there and
then the big homelessness crisis that wehave around the country. You know,
you know, it definitely could bethat. You know, I was in
New York City a couple of weeksago, and I'm pretty sure they just
legalized it pretty recently, and itseemed like every corner, I mean,

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it's just freaked of it. Andyou saw a bunch of you know,
people on the street just smoking itall the time, and I was going
through you know, Saint Patrick's Cathedraland whatnot, and just reeked of marijuana
in the church. Yeah yeah,and I just like it was horrible.
I just can't believe that. Ohthat is terrible. Well, Nick,
I appreciate your perspective on that forsure. Today, and we thank you

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so much for calling in and listeningto us, and have a great Memorial
Day weekend. Thanks appreciate it.Yeah, no problem. Phone lines are
open. It's an open phone lineFriday. We can talk about this.
I know this is a thing thata lot of people want to talk about.
Maybe we can talk about a lotof other things too. Four oh
two five five eight eleven ten.It is an open phone line Friday.
And you're listening to him Marie Songeralong with my buddy Matt Case right here

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on news Radio eleven ten kfab.Phone lines are open. Four oh two
five five eight eleven ten. Fouroh two five five eight eleven ten.
And let's start with hayes us,Hey zus, welcome back to the show
today. What's on your mind?Well, I just want to offer some
advice and a warning to all theyoung people that think that dope smoking is
a non addicting activity. I shouldbe the poster child for a lifelong of

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dope smoking. I'm a fifty plusyear old man who has quit smoking,
and I feel great. My lifehas changed for the better. Now let
me tell you why, because thisis what happens when you smoke weed continuously
daily, on and on, dayto day, year to year. It

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becomes addictive and you don't even knowit. Is it because of the substance,
jeseus. Is it addictive because ofthe substance, or is it addictive
because of kind of just the habitof doing it every day, or both
the substance the substance itself. Becauseas we know, science has proven that
marijuana THHC is a lot more potenttoday than it was back in the seventies

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or eighties when I started smoking,or sixties. You go to these these
these stores here in town now thathave cropped up that sell a type of
it. It's chemically altered where theycan get away selling it, but it
has just about the same effect asyou're straight marijuana smoking. You start smoking

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when you're young, your life isgoing to morph into that doesn't represent your
true self. You will find yourselfunplugging from family activities. You will find
yourself rolling with a whole different groupof people because they also smoke weed.

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You can simply compare your life andyour friends as you're young, and as
you progress through life, watch andobserve who achieves what in their life as
they get older. Okay, you'llsee the people that achieve the most in
their lives don't smoke weeds, don'treally drink. The people that smoke weed
and do those things, they're alwaysseem to be behind the eight ball,

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trying to capture what they think theyneed or deserve it. Right, sojeseus
just to finish up with you herefor somebody who was talking like is it
I know it's not either or,but just for the sake of the discussion,
because that's kind of how it started, was daily use of alcohol has
gone lower than daily use of weedin this country. Do you think weed

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or alcohol? Is there one that'smore dangerous to one's life than the other.
You think they're equal because they're bothaddictive. Okay, it depends on
to what volume you're going to subyour subject yourself taking the substance. Okay,
we all know, we all knowwhat alcohol can do and trying to
get release yourself from that sort thatthat that that trap that you're in through

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alcohol, anonymous and everything. Buthere's the most important thing. Okay,
once you become addicted after years andyears of use, yep, you're always
going to have that urge. Askany alcoholic, right, they're always have
that urge to drink. As adope smoker, you smell it, that
smells you're gonna you're there's something inyour mind that thus and that and that's

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the fight. If that's the battleyou want to fight for the rest of
your life. Smoke them up,Johnny. Okay, Well, Jeseus,
it's funny that you mentioned that becauseJohnny's our next caller. But I thank
you for your call today, Jesus, thanks for your perspective. Thank you
so much for listening. All right, Johnny, you heard him, smoke
up? Hey, thanks for takingmy call. Yeah, let's call her
there. When you ask what wasit more dangerous alcohol orjuanna? I mean

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he said, you know, hesaid both. But yeah, Well the
thing is is alcohol be real.You know you're drinking enough alcohol. You'll
die of alcohol poison. You're smokingenough, we you'll probably just like lay
down and you know, harsh reality. You know, Well, what would
be your answer though to his concernthat it just creates like kind of a

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culture of degeneracy for a person ifthey'd start doing it young, right,
right, right? You know Imean that with anything. I mean,
I would say cigarettes are probably theworst because like they you know, that
doesn't cause cancer health issues, andcigarettes are legal, so you know,
I just I think, is anydrug really I think should be legal?

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I should have you should have alicense or a permit or whatever. You
know, people should be allowed todo it, but a certain amount.
So Johnny, your perspective is alcoholis legal and certainly more dangerous than marijuana.
And that's a confusing dichotomy between thetwo. That was something that he
brought up. My thing is,is all these people talking and how horrible

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marijuana is an addiction? Want tofight addiction? That be your war?
Forget the war on drugs. Let'slet's start. Let's start this war on
addiction thing. Okay, because obviouslypeople have problems and like to sweep that
on the rug and be like,well that's not. My problem is society's
problem. It is because we're goingto get drugs which you're going to be

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addicted to, whatever they are.We need to start educating people, seeing
people just in general, counseling people, you know, when they need that
help. And I think it soundslike a liberal copy thing to do.
I think it's the most conservative thingif you care. Republicans should be looking
at that, you know, moreso than oh we need to fight those

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war on drugs, they should bethe war on addiction. Let's get some
more drug counselors out there, Johnny, I don't know if we've ever agreed
this much, And I appreciate yourperspective on this, and thanks for calling
us today. Yeah, I meanthat makes sense. Maybe we need to
start the root problem of what makespeople addicted to stuff. You know,
I had some people yesterday, youknow, I used sports gambling in Iowa,

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which is now fully legalized as away to kind of like, okay,
so this is something that was foundupon by society. They still moved
forward with it and the state isgreatly profiting off of it. But there
are still people susceptible to create abad habit of you know, an addiction
to gambling, and I understand that, but maybe that's where we need to

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start the conversation, is the conversationon addiction generally, not necessarily with the
substance of substance. I don't knowit's worth talking about. Probably, let's
get to Kim. Kim's on ourphone line four oh two, five,
five, eight eleven ten. HelloKim, what's on your mind? Hi?
Emery. The a lot of timespeople turn to alcohol, in marijuana

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and any kind of substance abuse isbecause they have add and they're trying to
treat their brain, and it actuallydestroys their brain in the long run when
they're on that use. Yeah,well, I can definitely tell you this,
Kim. Same thing with alcohol.In a lot of ways, people
who you know, drastically increase theirdrinking is time. And I'm a casual

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drinker, that's for sure, butthere are people that are out there that
are drinking with daily use. Infact, the survey that I talking about
yesterday that started this conversation says roughlyfourteen point three million people use alcohol either
near daily or daily in our countryand that was two years ago, So
I mean that's a huge number.And all of those substances are going to

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that alter your mind, are goingto kill your brain cells over time,
and it definitely, if not regulatedor moderated properly, could could be incredibly
harmful in the long run to people, even if they're trying to get themselves
off of it. I appreciate thecall though, Kim, really appreciate your
perspective. I have one more thingI want to say if you got time,
yep, and that is I sufferfrom a chronic migraines myself, and

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if I am around smoke, likefrom second hand smoke, from smoking marijuana,
I'm going to get horrific migraines thatend up in vertigo. Wow.
So you know you have to thinkabout what you do how it will affect
other people. Sure, yeah,no, that's a good point to Kim.

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I appreciate the call today. Thankyou, Mark, Rick, Doug,
Jim. We'll get to all yournext and you can call in on
an open phone line Friday four ohtwo, five five, eight, eleven
ten. We roll on on newsradio eleven ten. Kfab appreciate everybody for
being a part of the show.And the phone lines are and need to
open it four oh two, five, five, eight to eleven ten.
We are talking about marijuana again,picking back up kind of where we left

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off yesterday. More people wanted totalk about maybe it's not just its legalization
per se, but also just theculture of it as well. And Mark
is next on their phone lines.Mark, Welcome to the show. What's
on your mind? Thanks Marie.First of all, I want to say,
I'm originally from Des Moines, andyou've talked about being in De Moines.
I lived on the south side nearthe children's who but anyway, welcome

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nomha, I guess, but thankyway. So this whole issue to me begs
a certain question, and that wouldbe with any substance, even food,
people who overeat and all of thiskind of stuff. Anytime we are trying
to fulfill a need with substances insome fashion, I think we're kind of

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stepping out of the bounds of theway God intended thinks. So, for
example, the question is what isit that people are missing, what are
they trying to fulfill? And ifit's simply just pleasure, having fun whatever,
I think your previous callers have mentioned. You follow down that path,
you're gonna get alcohol poisoning, maybe, Yeah, there's definitely a dark side

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to that sort of thing. Well, And I just think if people are
unhappy enough that they feel they needto fill their life with other things like
that, they need to start askingsome of those metaphysical or spiritual questions like
who am I? You know,what does God think of me? What
am I here? For? Allthose kind of things. So, I
mean, I think that's the deeperpart of it. Obviously, we all

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go and enjoy a fancy me stuff, and there's nothing wrong with that,
but all in moderation, though,Mark all in moderation. Absolutely. I
occasionally have a drink and that's perfectlyfine. But and I know some people
have a propensity for addictions too.So there are some medical there are some
certainly some medical issues that need tobe addressed. I will give one example,

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my daughter now twenty eight, whenshe was a teenager, she was
having some light seizures and when wewent to the doctor for that at Nebraska
med he told us clearly, hesaid, all of the research for marijuana
used to help with migraines and seizuresand everything else under the sun are based

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on two main studies out of hundredsof studies those not those two studies.
The rest of them all seemed toincate there's no advantage to use in marijuana.
But again, that's that's the science, but it's ignored because they found
a couple of studies that help.Well, that's interesting. Mark, Yeah,
yeah, no, And I appreciatethe call. Mark, thanks for

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listening and being a part of theshow today. Thank you. Yeah.
I mean, there's there's no doubtabout it that it's I think case by
case. At the same time,I think more of the conversation that I'm
having is this is America. Howmuch do we want to constrict what people
can and can't do? Even ifwe don't understand socially why they would decide
that that was something they would wantto do. Because I'm not one of

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those people, I have no idea. I don't feel like I need advice
like that. I'm a casual drinker, but I've never been into marijuana,
So I mean, I just don'tknow. I'm the wrong guy to ask.
Doug's online. Doug, thanks forthe call. What's up? Hey,
So you had the caller earlier thatsaid we need to get people if
they want if they to put thisinto counseling when they take that if they

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want it. Well, let's lookat an Oregon for example, when they
legalize drugs marijuana, yeah, no, all drugs. Okay, you realize
they legalized, just about legalized alldrugs. Now they're going back on it
because they found out they made amistake. Okay, yeah, go ahead.
When those people were picked up andgot in trouble, they were asked,

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do you want us to help youget any counseling? Ninety nine percent
of them said no, right,even though the whole reason was they should
have forced them into counseling. Well, but you find out what right,
No, I'm going to say thatbecause who's take Yeah, the taxpayers were

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going to have to pay for it, right, those people are. And
because of all of that, doyou think Portland, Oregon looks like anything
like it did fifteen years ago?Not even close? Well, I I
wouldn't know, because I've never beenthere, But I I, Doug,
I grew I grew up. Igrew up there, right, Doug,
Can I can I just ask?Can I ask you a question? Though?

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You know again, I understand,like I understand we're talking about with
drug use, and I understand aboutthe legalization and what that can do to
the deterioration of a person, ora deterioration of a family, or even
in large scale situations, a deteriorationof a community. But again, my
question would be, there's already alot of that stuff already out there in

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the world. And what is itAmerican? Is it capitalism to continuously be
trying to restrict, you know,just one or two things that we don't
like societally and then get upset that, you know, maybe some of our
other freedoms would be impinged on.Again, I'm not comparing that to drug
use. I'm just saying, like, where are those lines on us telling

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people what they should be doing withtheir lives? What do you mean?
So let's let's put this way.We have a freedom of speech, right,
Yeah. You just had a gentlemanaddress a group of students at a
Catholic school and because what he said, he got ostracized by the same people
that tell us, oh, youhave freedom of speech. Sure. I

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mean that's fair too, Doug,that's fair too. It's a cancel culture
thing, Doug. I gotta Irun it out of time this hour.
But I know, yep, butI appreciate the call, Buddy, and
we thank you so much for listening. And the open phone line Friday keeps
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