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About an hour ago we learned thatDonald Trump was found guilty on all thirty
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four accounts of falsifying business records,and that happened after six weeks of a
trial. You can kind of tellTrump felt like this was coming by the
way that he was talking yesterday sayingmother Teresa herself couldn't get off on these
charges. However, it's still prettyshocking to know that a former president and
a guy who is currently running forpresident has a chance, I think,
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to be a clear front runner asthe summer moves on for president. In
November, convicted of a felony basedon charges that were brought against him,
for a charge essentially that I don'tthink anybody else would have even been in
court for. So whether he didthis or not, I don't even necessarily
think that it's specifically the point.I think the point is that political opponents
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of Donald Trump felt like this wasnecessary to take this step, even though
he is running for office, andI think this is going to backfire on
them. I think it's just goingto rile people up to support him even
more. We'll get your thoughts four, two, five, five, eight,
eleven, ten, and we're goingto start with Chris, Chris,
welcome to the show today. What'syour thoughts on this? Hi? Well,
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I am a Husker and I aman Nebraskan, and I have been
independent and I have been Republican.I changed parties when Tom Osborne was running
for governor because I thought he wasa man of great integrity. And one
thing I have not been hearing verymuch about is that we seem to have
thrown, you know, any trustin our institutions under the bus too,
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in order to embrace Donald Trump iskind of a serial liar, and I
think that there needs to be somecautions in this embrace. Well, Chris,
I'm hearing what you're putting down,and I understand that. But what
reason do people who are skeptical ofthe system itself have to feel like?
Yet Donald Trump. I'm not sayingthat he's squeaky clean. I'm not saying
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that he didn't do what he's convictedof doing specifically, even though I think
it's insane that they turned this intoa fellow the trial and have done so
in the middle of an election seasonwhen no one else on the face of
the earth would have been facing thesecharges even if they did the same thing.
But I guess Chris, my bigthing is why should people put trust
into assistance they think already is riggedagainst them. I think that you're accurate
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in saying that Americans have lost trustin a lot of their institutions. I
think it goes back a long ways. There's been a lot of betrayals,
you know, whether it was goingto war for weapons of mass destruction that
turned out to be a fallacy,or whether it was you know, the
collapse of the financial institutions in OAand things like that. They add up.
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You know, there have been religiouscontroversies in Catholic Church. There's been
a lot of stuff that have causedpeople to turn away from institutions. And
I think that it's unfortunate though thatpeople have picked Donald Trump as their leader,
you know, against this distrust.It just seems unfortunate to me because
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there are other people that are muchmore working well. I appreciate your perspective,
Chris, and I thank you fortuning in and for calling in today.
We appreciate your perspective. I appreciateyou taking the call. Yeah.
So, so, just to respondto that last point, it's not as
much about Donald Trump as I thinkit is Donald Trump represents a lot of
what people disliked about politics, right. They don't want people to be brash
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or crash or this open. DonaldTrump spoke to people in a way politicians
never have before, and that's whypeople are rallying around him. You can
call Donald Trump whatever you want.One thing that we know about Donald Trump
is he was able to rally andmobilize people like no one ever has before,
either in his favor or against him. It's never been done the way
that he has done it, forgood or for bad. That's why people
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are rallying around him. We hada caller earlier says he doesn't like Donald
Trump, but he's going to votefor him now because he wants to make
sure that our constitution is upheld andthat we don't create, you know,
litigation warfare every single time we havean election, because insteadive running a fair
and balanced election, we try tothrow our political opponents in jail. Mike's
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under line, Mike, thanks forholding and being a part of our show
today. What's on your mind?Hi am Uri, thanks for taking my
call just to go along with everybodyelse. I'm a law enforcement former officer
and I also serve in the military, and so I just wanted to say
that today really restored my faith inour justice system. Oh and Donald Trump
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got the best representation arguably money couldbuy, Okay, And he faced a
trial of twelve of his peers byhis choosing the jury, and he was
convicted of breaking the law. Ifyou or I used our business is too
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funnel hush money from somewhere into somewhereelse and didn't follow the tax law,
we would be in prison. Yeah. And so I pushed back a little
bit on that, Mike, becauseas far as this money goes, and
one hundred and thirty thousand dollars isan awful lot for us, it's not
an awful lot in the world thatyou know, we're talking about on Wall
Street or for Donald Trump specifically.What I'm going to push back on,
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Mike is that this thing has beenhanging around for a long time, and
it took until him deciding he wasgoing to run for president again for them
to indict him on this, tryhim on this, and then ignore statute
to limitations and make these felony charges. As far as the DA was concerned,
that's I think the bigger issue here, not that you know, you're
you're right. I mean breaking therules or breaking the rules. There's not
a single soul in America that,for the amount of money that we're talking
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about here, would be in thekind of trouble that Donald Trump was in
trouble for, except for the factthat he is running for president and was
running for president when they found himto do this stuff in twenty sixteen.
They waited until now to try itand made sure that it got done for
the election this year. That's whatpeople are upset about. I polantly disagree
with you in the terms. Ittakes time to build legal cases. And
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it's not like everybody accused of acrime runs to the prosecutor's office and says,
oh, let me tell my story. It takes time. I think
he got exactly what the justice systemsaid that he should get a jury of
his peers, and as far ashe's kind of brought this up with the
other caller, at some point,you have to trust in the system,
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right, it's do we have whatdo we have to trust the system with?
Michael? All of these people arevery democratic and very liberal people involved
in the court of New York State. I mean that we have every reason
to doubt that there's legitimate reasons forwhy this trial is coming up at the
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timing it has with the people involved, that it has every single thing about
this for the jury. Obviously,the jury heard what they needed to hear
and came to their conclusion. I'mnot debating that. But the reason that
this trial came apart with the peoplethat are involved, that have have been
involved, why would people from outsideof New York State or outside of the
Democratic Party have any trust whatsoever inthe proceedings in this But where does a
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conspiracy end? Right? You're soyou're saying that if every judge that hears
the appeal, because of course it'llbe appealed, rules against Donald Trump,
all of a sudden, it's fixedand it's rigged. If they rule for
him, then this was just atravel ste of justice. Trump does the
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same thing and the way he playspeople. If it goes his way,
then it's because he said so.And if it doesn't go his way,
it's rigged. Its fault, right, Mike, Mike, I got other
calls I want to take. Icould talk to you about this for a
long time, I think because weare so in disagreement on about this and
I respectfully disagree with your spot likeyou respectfully agree with my perspective on this,
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but I just want to finish upby saying, on this particular occasion
for this, we've never seen anythinglike this. This is completely unprecedented.
There have been presidents throughout history thathave been crooked or they've had things go
wrong. They have never been triedin a court of law for a felony
like this and then been convicted ofit. This is completely done and you
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cannot tell me, Mike, underany circumstances this was not done in part
because he is running for office inNovember. They definitely were putting this together,
so if he was running for office, it was going to interrupt his
campaign. And there's nothing you cansay that's going to change my mind on
that. It really nobody else forthese charges. This would not have been
brought back up if he's not runningfor president again, There's no way.
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And I'm sorry, Mike that wedisagree on this, but that's part of
this country. I really think that, you know, we have the right
to have some disagreements about this,and I guess the appeals court is going
to make a final determination on thisonce and for all. But I appreciate
you calling in and discussing with me, Mike Yep, I appreciate it,
and thank you, Jay, thankyou for calling in today. What do
you think about this? Yeah?Thank you. What my comment is,
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what I think could get very realnow is a New York City trucker boycott
and I would hope that we couldget a go Fundme account to support truckers
that were fears to take loads intothat city. That's interesting, Jay,
Definitely, you're going to see peoplehave their own kind of variations of protest
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here that I do have word,Jay that the Donald Trump campaign fundraiser website
is down already, so people,I mean, this is the thing Donald
Trump. And you can you cansay that this is for the Constitution and
everything like that, but Donald Trumphas mobilized people in a way nobody ever
has done that before in politics,for good or for bad, and well
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for him or against him. Andhere he is. He's been convicted of
thirty four counts of this and westill have sentencing on July eleventh. That's
a ways away yet, you know, several weeks from now, and you
know then after the sentencing, he'sgot an appeal so we're far away from
this being over yet people still arerushing to the website to give to his
campaign. That tells you everything youneed to know about the way that people
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think about him as a politician.We've never seen it before, Jay rank
YEP, appreciate it for being partof the show. Next we'll go to
Let's go with Amy. Amy,welcome to the show. What do you
got? Okay? I have twocomments. My first comment is, did
Stormy ever claim the money on hertaxes? Do we know that? Yeah,
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it's a it's a good question.She wasn't on trial, so I
think that we could go back andlook. I don't know if she has
the same I don't know if they'vedone the same kind of paperwork vetting.
Obviously, she still owes Donald Trumpseveral hundred thousands of dollars for breaking the
non disclosure agreement, but I'm surethat's going to get swept under the rug
too now exactly. And my otherthing is is it illegal to pay people
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off to keep their mouth shut?Is that illegal? Now? No,
that's that's not the illegal part,Amy. I think the illegal part that
And this is the thing about thesespecific charges. This was all about the
way that they paid her. SoMichael Cohen allegedly or what the court or
what the jury said based on theevidence they were presented and with the testimony,
Michael Cohen paid her. And thenthey went that they they didn't report
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it properly through a variety of ways, which it gets to the thirty four
counts is with invoices and ledgers andthings like that, with basically the idea
that it was not reported correctly forthat one hundred and thirty thousand dollars payment
because Donald Trump didn't want people toknow ahead of the November election in twenty
sixteen that he was paying her off. That that's what they found him guilty
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of. Not necessarily that the catchand kill scheme or whatever you want to
call it with the National Acquirers illegal, because it's not. And there are
a lot of celebrities that have dealslike that. So exactly, yeah,
for sure, I just I prayfor our and I pray for Trump,
and I pray for Republicans. Well, Amy, I will say this,
we can already see the growing strengthright when stuff like this happens every single
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time he was indicted, and nowthat he's been convicted, it just gets
stronger. I mean they've already they'vealready crashed his donation website or an hour
after the conviction. People are tryingto give money to the campaign so often
it's already crashed the website. It'scrazy, you know what I mean?
Yes, I agree? Well,f JB, thank you, Thanks any
appreciate the call today. Let's hopdown to Mary. Mary, welcome to
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the show today. What do youthink about this? I just think it's
a sad day for our country thatthey can prosecute their political opponent because he
knew he probably can't win, andthis is his way of trying to get
back at his opponent. And Ithink that if they can go after a
president, then they can probably comeafter us for the same thing. It's
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like the January Sixthma, the preand Grandma and a lot of people that
are going after Mary. I'll behonest, I'm not super worried about that.
I am worried about how we cantrust politicians now because every single political
race now you have to consider thisas an option. If there is anybody
who's had even kind of a checkeredpast, court is potentially going to end
up getting involved here because we haveofficially opened that Pandora's box that Oh yeah,
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if you don't want to run aspecific head to head race, just
find something that this person did andwe can come up with a way to
prosecute them for it, and thenmaybe we can just get them out of
the way. You know what Imean. It's a nasty, nasty game,
and this is going to prevent goodpeople from wanting to run in politics
because they don't want to deal withthis mess. I think so, and
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I think other countries are watching thisand probably in disbelief that we're doing this.
Oh yeah, we're being laughed atnow for sure. No sure about
it. Mary, appreciate you callingin. Thanks so much for being a
part of our show. Thank you. Let's go to Scott Is on our
phone line. Scott, welcome tothe show today. What do you think
about this? Yeah, I justwant to make a comment on the jury
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selection. I've heard comments that itwas rigged and that it wasn't fair,
but both sides have an opportunity toselect the jury. Yeah, Scott,
there's no there's no doubt to me. I'm that's the least of my worries
is the jury, because like you, said both sides had to vet and
ask questions, and they both approvedevery single one, all twelve plus the
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six alternates to that jury. Soanybody that's saying that just is misinformed.
Well, I got it from Fox. Fox is saying it. Yeah,
and well, and I don't wantto speak for other entities, but it's
just to me that there's no wayyou can rig the jury, specifically because
the defense had the exact same opportunityto vet those people like the prosecution did
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so exactly. Yeah, I justwanted to clarify that. Yeah, no,
I'm not aware of that. Yeah, no, no doubt. Scott.
Appreciate you calling in, but Evan'son the line. Hello, Evan,
welcome to the show. What areyou thinking about this? Did you
say? I'm sorry? I amso angry about this. I can't even
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explain how angry. But I willtell you this. I'm not a man
of means, but I will bedonating to Donald Trump's campaign every month until
the election, and I hope everyRepublican out there does the same. Well,
I think even more important, Kevinis to vote. I mean,
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just get out there, of course, to vote. Yeah, definitely,
Like if you were if you're anever Trumper kind of person. I think
now we have to start thinking aboutthe bigger picture here. You might dislike
Donald Trump, but what do youthink about our constitution in our country?
You have a real big chance asa conservative voter to make a big statement
here by by saying, you knowwhat, it doesn't even matter about Donald
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Trump specifically, I'm going to proveto the estabate pablishment that they can't tell
me who I should be voting forby using litigation on these political candidates.
And we have an opportunity to dothat this time around. Absolutely, Biden
cannot seat Trump bretern square. See. He has to do this, and
nobody can tell me that this isn'tbeing orchestrated by Biden and by Biden's true
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Well, I think one thing,Kevin, no doubt about this is regardless
of whoever is behind this, it'sjust riling Republicans up to support Trump more.
And every time they do something likethis it generally has backfired. I
appreciate you calling in absolutely, andfor the Democrats, remember this is precedent
now, Yeah, no, forsure, Sore, You're you're happy now,
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trust me, this will come backand fight you in the fut No
for sure, Kevin, Hey,I appreciate the call. Thanks so much
for listening to us. Thank you. Yeah, all right, we are
going to get to more calls,so keep on in. Four h two
five to five, eight eleven ten. Four h two five five eight eleven
ten. Well take your reaction onthe Donald Trump verdict guilty on all accounts
of falsifying business documents. Emery Songerwith you on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.
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Emory Songer on news Radio eleven tenKFAB. Back to the phones,
four h two five to five,eight eleven ten. If you can't get
through right now, that's because everythingis clogged up. We have the phone
lines full, and we're going tostart with Linda. Linda, thanks for
the call, Welcome to the show. What's on your mind? I just
wondered if anyone remembered the name JohnEdwards. John Edwards, Yeah, the
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Democrat guy, right, Yeah,the Democrat who used his campaign funds to
pay off his mistress who he alsohad a child with while his wife was
terminally ill. Yeah, Linda,you know why that didn't happen is because
nobody thought to do that with theguy who had no chance of winning.
Unfortunately, because they know that DonaldTrump has a chance of winning, They're
like, you know what, wecould just try to put the guy in
jail. And now that precedent hasbeen set, and I don't think they'll
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be I think there'll be another DonaldTrump before there's another John Edwards. As
far as campaign finances are concerned,don't you think Probably that's a shame.
That's what the country is now though, But Linda appreciate you reminding us of
that. Thanks for the call.Taker. Let's go now to Ryan.
Ryan, thank you for being onthe show today. What do you think
about this? Hey, Emory,how are you? I'm good man,
what's up? You know? Ireally just have a question about timelines.
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I got a little bit of anews update from your correspondent there or whoever
was recorded. But thirty days tofile an appeal? Seven thing is in
July at some point. How longcan this go on? Will this go
into November and actually really hurt thecampaign well? Or is this just a
foregone conclusion? I'm sorry, goahead, Yeah, no, And that's
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a great question. I'm not goingto pretend like I'm an expert on the
timeline here. My understanding is theyhave thirty days to file the appeal.
The appeal can then you know,take place, and people can They are
going to be able to put thattogether, and then the court they have
to have time to set up adate for that and then if the if
as the appeal is being heard,you know, the sentencing isn't going to
matter as much if it gets overturned. Now, my understanding is the sentencing
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is supposed to happen on July theeleventh, So that to me, that's
when the hearing for the sentencing isgoing to happen. As far as we're
concerned. Now that's the story,But as the appeal process starts, we
will certainly have updates on that foryou, Ryan. There is a chance
though that this could leak further andfurther. But this is not the kind
of thing that's going to distract him. He's not going to be locked up
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in a courtroom like he has beenfor the last six weeks. He's going
to be able to be out andabout and do in his campaigning. No
understood. Now, one last questionbefore I let you go. So let's
say the worst case scenario happened andhe is found guilty on seven counts instead
of thirty four different accounts. Now, will that dis enroll him from the
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campaign from the presdential race? Myunderstanding, Ryan, And again I'm not
going to pretend like I'm some expert, but I don't think there's any disqualifiers
on this guy, even if heis in jail. I think theoretically,
if he is still nominated by hisparty and he is still alive, he
is going to be on the ballotin November until we are told otherwise.
But it does not sound like thisis going to affect him. And that's
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why he said the real verdict isgoing to happen November fifth, because he
fully expects that it's going to behim and Biden with some third party candidates
on that ballot in November. Well, boy, this is certainly getting interesting
because I'd love to see it ifhe actually gets convicted on two charges,
still runs for president wins outright,I think the absolutely as Hey, it's
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very very possible that it could happen, right, And I appreciate you calling
in today, Bud, Hey,thank you having Yeah you too. Yeah,
they've already his campaign fundraising website hasalready shut down because it got crashed
because so many people already within thefirst hour and a half of him being
found guilty, were rushing to givehim money. We've had people email in
and say, hey, we wantto give him money. Uh. And
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I've never given money to anybody beforeever. Eric's on our phone line four
two, five, five, eighteleven ten. Hello, Eric, what
do you think about all this?I think this is a beautiful day for
America? Oh? Eric? Areyou? Eric? Are you? Do
you have to be a democrat?Eric, a lifelong criminal has finally had
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his day in court and been convictedby a jury of his peers. Yeah,
but kind how the system is supposedto work? Is it? Is
it though? Is it? Though? Eric? Are we sure about that?
But do you Eric, be realwith me. Do you think that
if this was anyone else, orif Donald Trump was not running for office,
he would have faced these charges likeany other criminal? Is this something
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that any other criminal would have beentried on? Though? Would would anybody
have been tried on this? Specifically? Yes, it's illegal to cheat on
your taxes? Yeah, but butbut Eric, again, this isn't necessarily
your taxes obviously not. Eric,I'm not talking about that specifically. What
I'm talking Eric is about specifically,this was something that happened in twenty sixteen.
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This does not get He doesn't getindicted for this until after he announced,
Eric, if you're going to callthe show, can can we talk
like humans instead of having like youjust try to talk over me per chance?
Okay, So in twenty sixteen,this is all going down according to
the testimony that we heard in courtfrom the people that were called onto the
stand. We didn't get to hearwhat Donald Trump had to say about this,
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obviously, but because he's okay,Eric, thank you. I appreciate
your interjection there, I was talking. Okay, the idea of this happening
in twenty sixteen. I don't knowif you remember this, that's almost eight
years ago. They don't indict himon these charges until after he has announced
he's going to run for office againin twenty twenty four, and then they
schedule and rush to schedule the courtappearances during the middle of what would be
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a big campaign season for him.At the very least, they knew they
were going to be affecting his abilityto campaign without necessarily even knowing if he
was going to be found guilty ornot. Now that he's been found guilty.
He is now it has now crashedhis campaign fundraising website. More people
say they're going to support him andvote for him, even if they don't
like the guy, because they thinkthat this is an absolute travesty that you
can do this to your political opponentsthese days, and the fact that it's
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going to open up a can ofworms for somebody to do this for a
Democrat or a Republican again in thefuture, because now the President has been
said, is it such a greatday for America? Eric, criminals should
get charged? This is how Americais supposed to work, buddy, Like,
that's the deal. Eric. Iappreciate your candor, and I appreciate
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you calling in. I know it'sprobably not easy for somebody who has I
had one question for you, andfor maybe your audience who's driving through in
the rain. You know, Idon't want anyone to get overheated and fashing
him whatever. Okay, Eric,how many other criminals are you going to
vote for in November? Yeah?Well, how many other convicted felons are
you going to vote? Hey?Eric? And as often as you want
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to talk about this, it's veryobvious who you support. There are going
to be people that are exactly theopposite Eric, Eric, Eric criminal running
for president getting convicted seems newsworthy.Eric. I appreciate your candor. Eric,
I've said that multiple times. I'mtrying to have a legitimate conversation with
you. But much like many peoplewho oppose what we're talking about here,
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you just want to throw your opinionsat us without having a legitimate conversation about
it. And for that I can'tthank you, but anyway, appreciate you
calling in. Amen, you keepinterrupting me. That's the end of the
phone call. I'm sorry. Itry. I try to be as nice
to these people as I can.I try to have a conversation with people
who disagree with my take or myperspective or our general stance of this family
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on this radio station. And ifyou're going to talk over me, or
you're going to talk about stuff withouteven thinking about anybody who thinks differently than
you, like Eric just did,I don't have time for you. That's
not what we're here for. We'rehere to have conversation, we're here for
debate, we're here for discourse.That wasn't what Eric was calling for.
And I'm not going to take callslike that without stand up for, you
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know, the other side of thematter on the phone line. Now,
let's get to marry Mary. Welcometo the show today. What do you
think about this, hey, Memory, I've been pretty plugged in. Let's
send to podcasts and stuff and youknow the daily as it's gone on during
this trial, and it was thiswas expected. I mean it was so
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biased from beginning this judge. Butyou know, defense got overruled all the
time. The prosecutors got sustained allthe time. I mean, he wasn't
just he didn't just have it someon the scales. He was like standing
on the scales. Yeah, forsure, Mary. That and I also
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wanted to mention that you had saidsomething about Stormy Owes Trump money because she
violated the non disclosure. He actuallyreleased her from the non disclosure. The
money that she owes him is fordefamation, right right right? Sure enough?
Yeah, yeah, appreciate that clarification, Mary, But yeah, she
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Owes, Like, what is itlike eight hundred thousand dollars or something like
that. I think it's below ahalf man, It's more than the money
that she was paid initially for theNDA let's just see Yeah, yeah,
yeah, Mary, I appreciate yourthoughts on this. Thanks for calling in.
Got more calls to get to,but thank you so much for listening
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to us today. You bet.Thanks. John's on the line, John,
Welcome to the show. What's up. Yeah, I'd like to know
how many of the jurors were Democratsfrom how many were Republicans? And if
they're asking for a war in thiscountry. I have people telling me all
the time that it's coming. Idon't know. Yeah, well okay,
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John, So so on the firstquestion that you said there, we know
enough about the jury to know thatboth sides, the defense and the prosecution,
had a chance to vet all ofthose people and approve all twelve of
them plus the six alternates. Soeven if they were like politically inclined one
way or the other, they didn'thave enough evidence to feel like that was
going to change the way that theydecided things in this trial. The second
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thing, I hope we don't resortto violence. Violence never is good.
That's third world country stuff that wedo. And despite how bad things feel
right now the way that our governmentis being run, I don't think we're
even close to being there. Yet. I hope we're not there yet.
I know that people are saying that, but I just don't think that resolves
anything. I just think that makesthings a lot worse. So my hope
John is at least that hopefully maybewe have the opportunity to resolve some of
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the problems that we have right nowand not hopefully decide that, hey,
the best thing to do is anotherthing that was similar to January sixth,
or the looting and all that stuffthat the people did during the George Floyd
thing, that stuff that nobody likes. I don't know anybody that thinks that
that makes a positive difference on oursociety. Cynthia, real quick, appreciate
you calling in. What's on yourmind? Yep, Cynthia, hurry up,
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I got a minute left here.Yeah, okay, all right.
First of all, Donald Trump isthe greatest president that I have had in
my lifetime. I've been voting forforty seven years. Okay, okay,
okay. So then the other Sothis this is with thirty four counts of
felonies, yeah, specifying business insteadof you know, they're all thirty four.
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This was a rigged you know.And also ninety eight percent of that
district was all Democrats. He cannotbe not Democrats right, well, Cynthia,
Just to clarify that again, thedefense attorneys had the same opportunity to
vet all of the people that wereon the jury here. So yes,
it's unlikely that there would be Republicansspecifically, but they felt comfortable enough in
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the political standing of the people thatwere involved that they appointed these twelve people
plus the six the six others asas time went through the jury selection process
at the beginning of this trial.Scott Moore, he's sitting here with me,
Scott. What's gonna happen at sixo'clock here? Glenn Beck is recorded
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