Talking Prez Debate, Sports Gambling and Camping Hobbies!

We're talking about the Presidential Debate, sports betting and your favorite camping hobbies. 

Episode Transcript

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You're a musician, Scott Vorees,I'm a hack. I enjoy playing though,
Yeah A piano guy. Eh yeah, I'm a drum guy. Yeah
yeah. I haven't played the lastfew weeks because my basement did not hold
the water properly of the mother nature. So I've had a you know,
fuld up my electric kit and moveit to a place I can't actually sit
down and play. But both ofus should have learned how to play the

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guitar or the harmonica or something moreportable than the instruments we play. That
is, that is absolutely correct,And it's hard to play drums without other
people, you know, Like I'mI'm a drummer that I just enjoyed to
jam and play with people. Ilove the interaction you have with people when
you play music. But I justhave to settle for pretending I'm the drummer
for Grand Funk Railroad instead, youknow, just to throw I'm an American

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band on or we're an American band, and you know, I become the
drummer for three minutes and thirty secondsor whatever. Yeah. So World Music
Date, it's also International Day ofYoga. Yogi over there, Yogi guy,
No I'm the least inflex I'm theleast flexible person that's physical, emotionally,
politically. I'm just very inflexible.Yeah, but that's what yoga's for,

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is to make you more flexible.I don't want to be more flexible.
I am what I am? Oh, you don't want to you want
you want to better yourself? No, not at all now at that time,
for that has past. I'm inmy mid to late forties. It's
as good as it's gonna get.Well. I feel like you golfing helps.
You're able to uh, you stillare physically fit because of the the

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torque you put on your obliques throughyour golf. You haven't seen my golf
swing. Apparently there's not a lotof torque. So so, so tell
tell the people the golf thing.How often? How many holes a week?
Here? M never enough according tome, way too much according to
my wife. Whatever that is.I get out a couple times a week.
Okay, yeah, it's more thanI get out. I'd like to

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get out that much. But let'sgo. Let's go right now, Okay,
all right, later, Glen Beckis next. Could you imagine well,
I mean I technically, if anybodyhad any questions about it. I
mean, what are they going todo when he's in the studio, He's
gonna make me stay here. I'mgonna I'm gonna crack up in this the
zva. I got a mountain zviahere, mountains z via, mountains zva.
You have a doctor zvia yesterday.I'll have a doctor zva later when

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I finished this. Yeah. So, so it's mountain dew flavored zvia stevia
plant sugar. Why not just drinka mountain dew because the CV is like
way better for you? Really,Yeah, they're like, there's a five
ingredients in this carbonated water, citricacid, natural flavors, stevia leaf extract,

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and caffeine. That's it. Naturalflavors is an ingredient. Yeah,
what does that mean? I don'tknow. I don't know. But in
the way the flavors of the ingredientsin there, you can't just say natural
flavor. There's not a bottle somewherelabeled natural flavors that you've added to all
the other stuff you just mentioned.Well, whatever, what would you call

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it? Like lemon lime kind ofthing, like mountain zva or mountain dew
lemon lime. It's kind of likethat. It doesn't stays exactly the same,
but you know it's close. II like it, And the most
important thing is right along here.Zero calories, zero calories, zero faz,
zero sodium, zero carbohydrate, zeroprotein, all that jazz, there's
zero everything in this. It's justvery good for you. So, I

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mean, I don't know if it'sgood for me, but it's a lot
better for me than drinking amount DEwould be. I'm eating a stick of
butter. There's a reason you lookthe way you do and I look the
way. It's funny because you lookexactly like me. Is sucking it in.
I'm sucking it in, he saysthis, But I mean, I
hate to be like ruin the visual. The thing he's trying to do is
yeah, he me and him arelike built the exact same, so anyway,

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we both look like Jaba the Hutyet have really hot. Wise,
I don't know how that worked out. It's all about a personality. Like
all of our money. Oh yeah, yeah, because of the radio business
is notorious for the amount of moneyit makes. By the way, did
you see Stephen A. Smith andhis contract negotiations with ESPN right now?
No, they have offered him aneighteen million dollars a year deal, and
he is asking for twenty five milliondollar a year. You can always ask,

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if you're prepared to walk away,might say no, how did that
happen? He's the only guy onthe ESPN I can actually name right now.
I love the ESPN in the nineties. I can't name anyone on there
anymore. Give me Rich Eisen,give me Dan Patrick. Oh yeah,
Charlie Steiner. You mean Charlie Steiner? Yeah? How about that? Anyway,
we got we got a lot offun we're going to have here.

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I got an email from Judine.We had a conversation a little bit yesterday,
and it reminded me that we wecould probably unpack this can of worms
just a little bit more. Iknow, I've done a little bit more
research. I probably wasn't ultra preparedfor the conversation yesterday. But with this
Warhorse casino thing happening, there isgoing to be some version or variation of

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legalized sports gambling in this state.So the email I got here from Judine,
which I appreciate, Judine reaching outsaid, I enjoyed your discussion has
to dance sports betting in the breadand Iowa. One of our good friends
might be an interesting person and hespent many years of sports journalists stuff and

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wants me to get in contact.I'm going to do that, but it
reminded me that I I wanted totalk about the story of how sports betting
in Iowa became a thing, becausethey started with the horse track and then
we're using it like it in centralIowa at least, and this is where

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a lot of this stuff ended upkind of matriculating out of because there were
like rules with steamboats and casinos indifferent spots, and you guys here in
Omaha certainly know that, but incentral Iowa it was like a big no
go until they put a horse trackin Altuna next to De Moines. And
then after the horse track, theystarted working on a legislation to legalize slot
machines. And they were like,okay, well the slot machines can't exist,

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but only if the horse track isstill happening and you have perimutual betting.
And then after they got the slowmachines, they're like, what about
table games? And then that wasyou know, your roulette and your craps
and your your blackjack and eventually,you know, like your poker and stuff,
it's like, okay, we gotthat too. And then eventually five
years ago or so, I think, they debuted the sports betting version of
that. And the first initial rulewas you had to go into the casino

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and sign yourself up in person,and then you have this app and you
could just bet, put money in, pull money out. You didn't have
to do anything other than sit onyour couch. But he also had to
be within the borders of the stateof Iowa or I legalized betting state.
And I tell you what it took. That was quite the process. Now
I know over here we're behind quitea bit in that process, but this
Warhorse thing is going to probably getthat boat roll in a little bit.

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Well, Scott, I have toask you, you know, as a
sports guy yourself, you heard thestory in the news yesterday that eighteen thousand
times people crossed the Nebraska will borderto bet on just Nebraska football games.
And then you and they can geocash, so they know where these people
are coming from to make these bets. But it's legal if they do it

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like that, and you have allthese people that are coming from these sports
betting states like Texas and like Florida, and they're making their way up to
Omaha and still deciding they're going togo across the river, open up an
eye with sportsbook, get their fandulor their DraftKings, make their bets while
they're geographically in a legal position,and then come back across and enjoy the
festivities. How many thousands of dollarshas gone that direction over the last several

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years, the last five years sinceI always had this and are we comfortable
with that? Apparently we have notmade any steps to really legalize a whole
lot of it, to open thoseflood gates. Well, I guess you'd
have to drive to Lincoln to theWarhorse thing if you wanted to do that
this year. I don't know ifit's Warhorse and Lincoln that allows it,
or is you have to go allthe way to Grand Island. Oh yeah,

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I wouldn't know. It's a longerway than going over to Council Bluffs.
Yeah, you can walk from theballpark over to the casinos the games
in Council Bluffs. But yeah,Nebraska, this goes back several decades and
there's one big name that does notone gambling in Nebraska. I guess yes,
tom Osborne is tom Osburn and tomOsborne is a revered, revered figure

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has every right to be. Andthere are a lot of people who have
said, we will never see legalizedgambling expand uh to that level that ioway
sees it as long as tom Osborne'salive. But why he doesn't like it?
But why? I hate to bethe five year old that's in his
wife face. But it's like,can you give me a good reason?

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Well, it's for the same reasonsas there used to be a billboard on
the interstate with him and CoA TronBrown a few other people that said real
men don't use porn. It's theidea is is these are vices and nothing
good comes of it. And youknow, at the same time, you
could say, but we have alcoholsales. Well that you know, there's

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there's This is what he stood upfor. He's got a movement of people
behind him and say, yeah,I don't want that. I don't want
Omaha to be one step closer tolo Like all we have in this town
is you know, your big boxretailer and Amazon warehouse, a bunch of
people selling CBD oil and then sportsbetting. You know, we we're almost

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there now, but there are somepeople that just say, I don't like
it, and they're more than happyto go over to council bluffs and do
it. Yea, I guess forme, and I hate being being this
guy again, but I bring upthe two branches of conservatism that people say,
well, you're wrong. I'd liketo know how you have your social

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conservatives and you have your fiscal conservatives. And I'm looking at a very conservative
red state and Iowa right now,who under this governor's leadership, a very
conservative, highly recommend Like everybody inthe Republican Party on the national level thinks
that Kim Reinolds is doing a greatjob in Iowa. Yet she has oversaw
plenty of revenue, legitimate tax cutsin millionions of dollars made through sports books

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across the state of Iowa in justfive years. And they've had you know,
they had the one SNAPHU where theDepartment of Criminal Investigation went after some
kids, uh to try to provea point in the state of Iowa.
Did he see? I was like, oh, we could find some of
these kids that are using the likenessof some other people to gamble on sports
even though they're not allowed to.And then they did that, and that

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put a stain on the state ofIowa and why that happened. But besides
that, I mean, like ithas been nothing but lucrative. And again
I have to say this, theyhave actually cut taxes in the state of
Iowa. So how can somebody whosays they're a conservative, at least a
fiscal conservative want our economy to bestrong say no, toe something like this

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when you see the neighbors just tothe east enjoying such profitability off the same
thing. Yeah, I'm not hereto argue with you. I this is
not a point that I care agreat deal about just because I'm let people
do what they're gonna do. Don'tget any on me. He's kind of
my attitude towards all of it.But to pile on with what you said,

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just like you were saying, like, well, it used to be
had to do this, then they'relike, well, I'll just go ahead
and let them do this. Usedto be. We already have so many
forms of gambling in Nebraska, fromKeno to all of the expanding casinos we
have opening up here. Omaha usedto be a great place to go to,
the horse races at Xarbon when itwas more than just a shopping center,

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when it was a horse track.And that's part of our legacy here
in Nebraska is some of those things. But for whatever reason, maybe because
Nebraska is a whole lot bigger thanjust Omaha, there are people and communities
across the state that don't want that. As we have Native American casinos and

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quino and all the rest this stuff, and all that stuff's pretty full.
You go into some of these smallbars in some of these smaller towns across
Nebraska, they got little table gamesand things like that up there. They're
doing this much as they can getaway with. So why not just have
it be a big casino? Idon't know. Interesting, isn't the lottery

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kind of a new thing in Nebraskatoo? Like? Or am I mist?
I think it's been here for awhile, white a long time.
I mean I go back to thinkingabout you'll pickle parlors we had, especially
South Omaha. It's full of pickleparlors, just kind of a lottery type
of game. Right, Yeah,well we'll talk about that. You're right.
The Rascal Lottery has been here fora while so yeah, since the

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nineties, so yeah, I don'tknow. If you've got thoughts on this,
you'd like to confurther the education.Somebody want to tell me why sports
gambling is kind of frowned upon still, And I mean again, I can't
say it's completely outlawed, because there'sgoing to be a way that you can
bet on sports with his warhorse thing. But and whether it's in Lincoln or
Green Island or whatever, there isa spot where you could go do it.

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Now. It's just further away fromOmaha than across the river, is
so. But if you want totalk to us about this, I'd love
to pick your brain. Four Otwo five five eight eleven ten. Four
oh two five five eight eleven ten. News Radio eleven ten kfab. We
are learning about how many people cameto the College World Series and then walked
across the bridge to make a sportsbet in Iowa before coming back and joining

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the game in Iowa. Enjoys thespoils ticks on the phone line four two
five to five eight eleven ten.Dick, welcome to the show What's on
your mind? Thank you? Ijust had to get a kick out of
the gambling issues. My wife isfrom a small town in western Nebraska of
about five hundred people, and therewas a real popular bar in town that

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had access through books and men's roomor the lady's room to a back room
where they had slot machines, andit was kind of common knowledge. You
know, if if somebody went tothe to the restroom at any experienced extended
period of time, they probably wentback with a roller quarters. So I

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just I just got very humorous becausethere's even a discussion about gambling. Yeah,
well, I guess Dick, it'sjust, you know, it's a
different it's a different culture now thatyou can just like pull out your your
cell phone and just from basically anywhere, as long as you're in a legal
state, you basically can just beton whatever as long as you have money
in your app. It's a differentthing altogether. But it is interesting how

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different people are seeing it. Maybeit's just their lack of exposure to it.
I appreciate the call, though,Dick. Thanks for at the time
today Kate's on our phone line offour h two five five, eight eleven
ten. Hello, Kate, whatdo you think about this? So?
I was a school teacher my entirelife and when the lottery was introduced in
Nebraska in the nineties. With Fell, We're gonna increase teachers salaries. We're

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going to make sure that everybody's takencare of. Yeah, that actually ever
happened, because you know, I'dlike to see hard statisticsge of teachers in
their salaries. Not in my purview, gambling thing is just still a holdover

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when we were a little bit morepure channels, all and simple. I
don't think there's really anything wrong withthat. Vices can eat into a family,
but I don't know. It's aninteresting conundrum. Emory, great job,
but hey, thank you, Iappreciate that, Kate, and thanks
for calling in. I Okay,so she broke up there a couple of

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times, but I know what she'ssaying. Okay, So the first thing
is we will promised this, thatand the other thing when the lottery came
to town, and there's at leastshe doesn't have the evidence as to anything
that they had promised when they legalizedthat actually happened. Again, we're gonna
need the hard numbers on that toknow that for sure. But you know,

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I guess maybe it's a trickle downthing. You talk about making an
investment in one spot. So inthe future you can maybe address some of
those things, but there is achance that maybe it didn't actually happen.
That's what people have told me aboutwhat's going to happen with recreational marijuana too,
is if we did that, thatwouldn't be like tax relief for us.
They just find different ways to spendthat money. But I again look

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over to Iowa and they actually havecut their taxes in the last couple of
years because of a surplus and revenuefrom the state. I'm just saying,
if they can do it, whycouldn't we do it kind of thing.
I don't know. Maybe it's alot more different than I think it is.
I don't know. I reserve theright to change my mind on that
second part that she talked about wasthe vices and what that can do to

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a family. And again I canunderstand that, but you can't tell me
that you're fiscally conservative and say thatyour social conservative values are way more important
and still tell me that you're afiscal conservative, because there's so much more
money that can be made on this, as Iowa has shown, and they
are taking a lot of that moneywith the sports betting stuff, just like
Southern Iowan's gave Missouri a ton ofmoney on fireworks for all those years.

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But it's the idea that most people, and I would say a large majority
of people don't have a gambling problemor would not have a problem with gambling.
It would just become part of theirentertainment budget, if you will,
and said it's been in one hundredand fifty bucks a ticket to go see
Zach Bryant at c HI hellsenter Omaha. They might spend you know, seventy
bucks betting on the NBA Finals,and if they win, awesome, they

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have more money. If they lose, not a big deal. I budgeted
that out myself or you know mysportsbook, app eh, you know what
I mean. It's kind of anentertainment thing when you look at it that
way, not necessarily a vice thatthey can't get rid of real quick.
Let's sake, George, George,appreciate you holding and beat on the show
today. What's on your mind aboutthis? Hey? Brother? Sports gambling
is a whole different, whole differentballgame than regular gambling. And I'll give

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you a couple examples why it's tooeasy to fix a game. And before
these kids were getting paid like collegekids. They ain't got no money,
and you are dealing with twenty fivethousand dollars in you're a high school college
quarterback on a good team and yourfavorite by twenty five points. A guy
walks in your room one day,he said, here's fifty grand. All

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you've got to do is over sothree touchdown pastless. We don't care if
you win the game, but donot win it by twenty five points.
The biggest one now and the latestI can think of, was the University
of San Francisco. They were aperennial powerhouse in basketball in the seventies and
eighties, and then they got poppedfor fixing their games. And I mean
the people outside were making hundreds ofthousands of dollars on the game because they're

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favored by seven points. You canwin by right, but you missed that
last shot. Yeah, So,George, the interesting thing is, and
I don't disagree with what you're saying, and actually I'm gonna I'm gonna hold
my point on that, but Iappreciate you calling in, buddy, Thanks
for listening. I'll tell you whyI don't think that's as big a deal
as it probably once was because thetechnology that exists. And this goes back

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to what happened in Iowa with theDCI investigation and those college kids too.
We'll get to that momentarily. Ifyou want to call in, you can
at four oh two, five tofive, eight to eleven ten. Four
h two five five eight eleven ten. More on the way news Radio eleven
ten KFAB. We're gonna go aheadand get back into the conversation I was
having about sports gambling. Some greatcalls, few different callers with different thoughts,
and the last of those calls wasour friend George. Loved talking to

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George. And by the way,you can call into four oh two five
five eight to eleven ten. Fourh two five five eight eleven ten is
the number. So basically what George'spoint was is, uh, you gotta
watch for game fixing. You gotsports gambling, and it becomes more and
more prevalent. That gives more opportunities, more and more opportunities for people of

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various backgrounds to maybe give a littleincentives to some of the players or coaches
or maybe even officials to not performto their capabilities or maybe behave in a
different manner and that could drastically affecthow the betting lines go. Now,
I just want to throw this outhere a couple of examples that I can

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tell you as to why I thinkthat that's not as big of a problem
with the technolog that we have andmost people doing it through betting apps,
then the behind the scenes under thetable betting that so many people have done.
I mean like uh Shoheotani's UH interpreter, Ipe Misuhara got in trouble because
you can't gamble on sports in thestate of California. They don't have that

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as a it's not a you can'tdo that in California. So he had
like an underground bookie that he wasworking with and was making a ton of
bets for millions of dollars with youknow what I mean, pretty crazy stuff.
Well, they were able to catchhim even though he was doing this
without the capabilities of regular apps,big apps, you know what I mean?

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Does that make any sense? Ifyou use the big apps, you're
gonna get caught doing anything kind ofweird. One instance is that DCI investigation
at the University of Io when Iwas staying university had to worry about where
several of their athletes, including thequarterback of the Iowa State football team,
several of the basketball and football playerson both schools, and some of the
other baseball players who had used theapp to make bets, not necessarily on

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Iowa or Iowa State games. Someof them did do that on other sports,
which again is also prohibited, butthey were doing it. The biggest
problem was that they found that someof these athletes were making these bets from
campus using the information of like acousin or even a parent or an older
sibling, which that is like aversion of fraud that you can be legally

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charged with. Unfortunately, that investigationuprooted a lot of their athletic careers,
and i was the only state thatthat happened in, even though it's certainly
happening all over the place. Therehas since been kind of an inquiry as
to how that popped up, andthey found out those were young DCI agents
looking to try to make a statementor try to prove that they're good at
their job by doing all that,even though nobody necessarily called for that type

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of investigation. Now, is itwrong what those guys were doing? Absolutely,
and they had to take responsibility andthe consequences for what they did,
but they weren't necessarily throwing games.Guy who was trying to throw games,
or at least throw his own statisticsas a guy by the name of John
tay Porter. John tay Porter isor was an NBA player, a fringe
NBA guy. He's in his midtwenties. He's mostly a G League level

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guy. But he was playing onand off for the Toronto Raptors this year
and John tay Porter kind of wasa little bit fishy about some of his
game performances. There was a gamein January where he mysteriously got quote injured

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and left the game about two orthree minutes into the game, and that
was the end. There was agame in March, like late March,
the same thing kind of happened,where he seemed to be fine and then
all of a sudden got a littlebit of an injury and stopped playing.
Oddly enough, the Draft Kings sportsbook and I think maybe fandals, some
of the sports books basically said themost action on any individual players like prop

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bets like how many points, howmany three pointers, how many rebounds were
Johntay Porter statistics, and they wereon the under for Jontay Porter statistics.
So John Tay Porter in some way, whether or not he actually made the
bets himself, but he was tellingother people that, hey, tonight's a
good night to bet me under sevenand a half points or me under one

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and a half three pointers because IAm not going to play that much,
or I'm going to sit out,or I'll start the game because that's how
you win the bet. He's gotto at least play a little bit.
And then once he leaves the gameand says, oh, I have an
injury or something, he's not goingto go back in the game, everybody
wins their bets. Well, thiswas a fishy thing for these apps,
and they went ahead and reported that, and they did am all investigation took

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only a week or two when JohntayPorter was officially banned forever from the NBA
because they had enough evidence to saythat he was using inside information with himself,
obviously to prevent people from having legitimatebets on him. And also Toronto
Raptor games. I mean, imaginehow different the games turn out if the
coaching staff knows he's not going tobe available, right the raptors weren't good,

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but that changes. Like the overunder for the entire game. A
lot of people that thought it wason the level were being lied to.
They were able to figure that out, and there were major consequences for that
guy. So I feel like withthe current technology that we have, there's
no doubt to me that it's alot harder to fix games now than it

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would have been many years ago.And college kids, especially in the big
sports like basketball and football, withthese nil deals, they're actually making some
money than they were back in theday when they were making no money and
they would be taking money for anylittle thing and trying to keep that as
hidden as possible. Nowadays, it'snot as big of a problem, especially
at these larger schools, So somethingto keep in mind. Also, I'm
under the impression that when this Warhorsesports gambling thing goes on, you can't

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actually bet on anything Nebraska related whenthey're playing in Nebraska. At least I
could be wrong on that as well. There's a similar rule in the way
that it works in the state ofIowa as well, so that does put
a few different protections going on thereas well. Two forty five is the
time. We really appreciate you forjoining us. If you want to call

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in on this or anything else,you can't four h two five five eight
eleven ten. Four h two fivefive eight eleven ten. More on the
Way next on news Radio eleven tonKfab. The sports gambling question is an
interesting one for me. It's somethingthat I'm not super passionate about doing myself.
But I see a lot of differentopportunities within that and a lot of
fun that people are having, andyou know, I talk to my friends
about some of the stuff that theyhave. My buddies. I had hanging

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out with a friend on Sunday.We went to the College World Series and
he basically told me, you know, he's like showing me some different ideas
of what he might want to beton. And he didn't bet a lot
of money. You know, itwas leave ten twenty bucks and I ended
up winning, and it was nice. I ended up winning. It wasn't
like perfectly lined up, bods.I think he bet like twenty dollars on

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Florida State to win in Iowa,obviously, and then he came over and
watched the game and Florida State endedup winning pretty handily and pretty easily,
and he ended up with like thirtyfive dollars instead of the twenty dollars that
he had, and he had fun. You know, it's just a fun
thing. You know. It's hardwhen you're not kind of exposed to what
it means. It's not just likea bunch of guys going, you know,

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in the back room and you know, betting one hundreds of dollars.
There are people that certainly do that, but the people that I know that
use those apps, that that isnot something that they pay very close attention
to like that. It's just alittle bit of an entertainment thing that they
like to have. So yeah,yeah, and I've had I've had some
good times. I want, youknow, a couple hundred bucks on the

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NCAA tournament a few years back becauseI really liked one of the teams and
they made a deep run. Itwas fun. You know, I don't
know, it's one of those things. Two fifty the time, Scott Vorhes
is alongside Can I can I canI bring up a story to you and
get your take? I wish youwould. I talked about this yesterday the
five o'clock hour. If this isa regurgitation to you. It was a

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brief conversation, but it's one Ijust need somebody to tell me what to
think of this. Two millionaires inthe state of Maine live next to each
other in a small town that isfor rich people. It's a very rich
place, right along the coast.One of them is right on the water.
They have a bunch of trees thatline their property. This is the

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Lban former president wife is living there. He's dead, if you're wondering,
But the woman she's living, LLcool Jay is dead. Lban didn't ll
cool Jay start? L Bean?Did I get that wrong? My entire
life? I think? So?You buy camping gear and those those bucket
hats, Yeah, yeah, thoseweren't different. Things go on. So

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there's a next door neighbor that's onit's not like next door on the water.
It's like she's behind this person.I already see where this is going.
Can't see the water perfectly because ofthese trees that are in between their
two houses, and mysteriously, afew years ago these trees die. Now
they're in court with the LLBean widowblaming these people who live next to her

(28:25):
for giving herbicide into their trees tokill those trees, so they have to
be removed, so she got herocean front view. But not only did
she kill those trees, that hassomehow wandered into the public beach that's also
next to this person's house, theone little public beach they have in this
little town. So my question toyou is what punishment is proper enough if

(28:47):
we can prove that this woman that'snext door to the LLBean lady killed her
trees and got herbicide into the publicbeach that so many people, kids,
dogs, animals are constantly traveling onand trying to enjoy themselves. On the
issue of the ocean there or thislake, big lake, ocean in addition

(29:11):
to the ocean, it'll cleanse itself. You know that whatever pesticized, orbicize,
whatever got in there, it's allit was gone within a matter of
moments. So I'm not worried toomuch about that as far as you know,
the killing of trees people, Imean, trees go all the time.
But if we can prove that shemaliciously did this to the scenery in

(29:33):
this area just so she could havea better view of the ocean, I
think the punishment should be bored upall of her windows on her ocean sided
view of her home board them up. Oh no, oh geez, so
they actually they have. She offeredto split the cost with the Lbean lady

(29:59):
to move the trees once they died. Wait when did she move in and
how tall were the trees? Likeshe moved in fifty years ago, and
the tree has been growing the wholetime. So here's a I'll this is
bad for radio, but I'm gonnashow you a picture the woman. It's
the house in the back, andyou see like the clearing now between her
house and the water. We're nottalking about a complete deforestation. There was

(30:21):
like one or two trees. Yeah, that hole now that you can see
her house, there were trees thatwould block that otherwise. There have been.
There's at least one situation here inwest Omaha. I'm very aware of
where you had someone who built ahome with a wonderful view of this really
nice country club in West Omaha,and then someone came along and found out

(30:42):
that there was a property a littlecloser to the golf course that was available,
but you know, you couldn't buildas big a home on it.
And because they didn't like the personacross the street built a taller home.
Oh no, to obliterate the viewsof the golf course at this person originally
paid for. Oh and they they'vebeen fighting that one for ten years,

(31:06):
fifteen years. How but I mean, what can they do? It was
a partial lane for sale, rightwell they actually they are in court for
this thing right now. And thereare people in the community that say that
they want this person to move outof town. They want to get her
out of there. The fine itselfthat they it's a forty five dollars fine.

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I want to take my boat bymy kayak boat on the Lake scott
As a partial meteorologist yourself, whatdo you think? Is it a good
idea for me after I get offwork to go to a lake or am
I going to be in trouble potentiallywith some wetness? How what giant lake
are you going to that you wouldn'tbe able to see storm clouds rolling in

(31:47):
from twenty five miles away and getto safety. Got'm not familiar with the
lake that big around here for kayI guess that's a fair point. Yeah,
so get out there. Okay,fair point? Good? Are you'd
call your kayak a boat? Yeah? It's a boat. It's a kayak.
Yeah, but it's a boat.It's not necessarily even a kayak.
It's an Origami paddler. It's awhat now, an origami paddler. You're

(32:09):
not paying me. I have tosay that Oregami Paddler does not pay me
for this commercial. It's like thecoolest thing. It's a it's a boat
that folds into three parts and itfits in the back of my suv.
In fact, my wife has oneand we can fit both of them in
the suv at the same time.It's got an arm strap, it's got
a little seat. You can useit as a kayak. When you unfold

(32:31):
it, you can sit in thewater. It's got you know, it's
got you know, a paddle thatfolds down inside so like it all fits
inside the boat when it's folded up, and then you take you carry it
out into the water, you layit down, you full unfold it,
you put your paddle together, andthen you're off on on your way.
According to the radar, as longas you're not going Oregami kayak boating somewhere

(32:52):
up around Harlan after seven o'clock tonight, you should be good. Okay,
So like lake cunning, how's that? Yeah, you're good? Okay,
all right, I think I'm gonnado that. How do we subject to
change with these forecasts? Okay,So there's the meteorologists claim disclaimer there.
You know it's the truth. It'sweather, all right. So yeah,

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I'm gonna get the boat out.That's what it sounds like. If you're
at a lake and you see acouple of origami paddlers out there, that's
probably me and my wife. SoI have this this I hate this about
the debate system that we are justoutright refusing to allow a third person to
take part. I have a coupleof thoughts on this, but you're a
more experienced political analyst than I am. So is this something that is necessary

(33:38):
or is this something that we shouldwe should solve or fix or it really
at the end of the day,doesn't matter what's kind of your analysis of
the fact that we just are generallyshutting out any third party candidates play better?
You know. R. FK.Junior is too conservative for liberals,

(33:59):
he's too liberal for conservatives, andhe hasn't gotten enough support. Well,
he's got what goes, He's gotenough support. The only person I hear
talk about RFK Junior is you andthe whole world. Yeah, the only
person I hear ever bring up hiscandidacy is you, mostly because I just
want him to be given a platformin which he can tell people what his

(34:22):
platform is, because what you said, he's too conservative for liberals but too
liberal for conservatives, and that Ithink is why there's an appeal there is
that he would be filling in amiddle part because he Okay, so here
are the rules. He needed tobe at fifteen percent or more support in
four different national polls recognized by CNN. He only made three. And then

(34:45):
the other thing was he needs tobe on the ballot in enough states to
reach two hundred and seventy electoral votesbefore the election, or actually before the
deadline, which was yesterday, Andhe says his campaign says, we are
going to be on the ballot instate ABC and D all the way through.
But he's not officially confirmed to beon those ballots except for like eighty
nine electoral votes, so he's wellshort of that. Now, if they

(35:06):
would have given him another couple months, maybe he would have achieved that.
But the bottom line for me ishe didn't achieve those numbers, but he
is as viable as third party candidateas we have had since Perro And I
understand how the rules go, andI get that the Democrats and the Republicans
or the Yankees and the Red Sox, and that's all anybody cares about is
a versus b We don't need tomuddy the waters here. It makes things

(35:27):
complicated. But as far as aAmerican process, for the style of government
that we have with free and fairelections, we are led to believe that
we have having a candidate that kindof fits in the vacuum in the middle
there to at least hear what theideas are being bounced off of, even
if it is way too in themiddle and we don't really have enough people

(35:47):
that want to live in there.At least it forces the other two candidates
to have to address those points,or he gets to address the points of
the far left and the far right. And I think that would be a
good exercise for America, even ifhe has no chance of winning. The
Network says, well, we wantthe Yankees and Red Sox. It's stupid
if we include the Blue Jays heretoo. And I can understand that from

(36:09):
a ratings and an entertainment perspective andfrom a simplistic perspective. But it just
seems fairly Unamerican to me that we'rejust shutting people out that are not a
Democrat or a Republican. Yeah,that's perfectly American for just the same reason
you gave there. We want theYankees and the Red Sox. We know
we're not going to bring the BlueJays in. That's because the Blue Jays
didn't get the wins necessary to makeit to that series. Our FK in

(36:34):
this example is the Toronto Blue Jays. So how do we get there?
How do we get better candidate that'snot someone who is a little bit crazy.
Our FK Junior is a little crazy. Ross Perrot was a lot crazy,
very crazy. Yeah, So havean independent candidate who's not crazy.
That'd be a good start. Youknow. It's the same with like these
libertarian candidates. There's so many peopleout there that are you know, have

(36:58):
a great idea for libertarian stuff.Then you meet these candidates for presidency and
they're nuts. Many of them arenuts. There is the guy that came
in. Did you see the guythat came in and recorded his campaign ad
before the Nebraska primary. Oh man, that guy was a hoot. He
spent a lot of money and camein like twelfth out of six people.

(37:21):
I hadn't heard of anybody else becausehe was the one running ads on our
radio station, and he still finishedlike a distant fourth or fifth among the
libertarian nominees. That has to hurt. That's got a sting right there.
Yeah. No, I'm not tryingto try to say that, hey,
you know, just any random candidateshould get this opportunity. I'm not trying

(37:42):
to say that. I'm just saying, if fifteen percent on average support and
it's down to ten base on theFox newspat came out a couple days ago.
But if fifteen percent average support fora third party candidate, it's not
even affiliated by a party, tobe honest, he's not even libertarian,
he's an independent. If he's notthe kind of candidate that you want,
it's okay, we'll let a thirdperson get on this debate stage. And

(38:05):
then it's just never going to happen. And I don't know what it's going
to take for it to happen.You can call us a four h two
five five eight eleven ten, fourh two five five eight eleven ten.
Scott's on our phone line, Scott, welcome to the show today. What's
on your mind? Hey, Emery, I'm I'm a conservative. I voted
for Trump, would never vote forwhat they've got in the House now for

(38:28):
Democrats. If RFK came on board, I will seriously seriously consider voting for
him. I really think he wouldactually have a chance to win from the
Democrats who don't want to continue thepath they're on, and from the Republicans
that don't want to continue the pathwith Trump. I really think he's a

(38:51):
viable candidate. May Scott nuts Scott, Hey, Scott Voorhees. Do you
see that there's another guy? Yes, the second with CNN. See if
he made the debate stage now basedon YouTube? Is another guy? Hey?
No, Scott. Do you thinkbut but him not be on this
debate stage? That probably kills anychance of his candidacy catching any positive win,

(39:13):
right, I mean, he's justgoing to keep going down on the
polls at this point, don't youthink. Yeah? Well Trump went down
in the polls too, you knowbefore everything got going, and he wasn't
he wasn't the planned winner, right, and he came out on top.
I really think if if he goton the ballots, I think we would
be surprised. Well, he certainlyeven now, based on even if he

(39:37):
trends down a little bit, he'sgoing to be the most successful third party
candidate since Parole in the nineties.So it's going to be something to keep
in mind. Scott, Hey,I appreciate the support of me because I
was just told I was the onlyperson that cared about RFK. You actually
have have proven that wrong, andI appreciate that today, sir, Yeah,
Scott, he's wrong again. Allright, let's go to all the
other calls on the line that wantto stand up for RFK. Go ahead,

(39:59):
you're on the no all right,no one, no one, there's
no one. Dude. Hey,look, I might be a little bit
of a pot star and I likea little bit of chaos. Sorry that
I'm rooting for the little guy tohave a seat at the table. The
little guys RFK Junior family like theindependence right the family to vote for it

(40:23):
because their establishment Democrats, that's whythey want every family. They can't they
can't put up with the fact thatthis guy was anti COVID vaccine. That's
that's their big issue. If youwant to take part in our conversation,
you can four oh two five fiveeight eleven ten four h two five five
eight to eleven ten, three fifteenNews Radio eleven ten KFA B. B

(40:43):
Rye And thanks for the call today. What are you thinking about? Hey,
what's up dude? I was justkind of curious as to whether you
bought your vote from China. Yeah. So the boat Origami paddler. Yeah,
so it's called an oregonmy paddler andthey actually make them. It's a

(41:04):
small startup company. I was actuallyone of the what do they call it
kickstarter? A kickstarter? I investedin the kickstarter when they were making this.
They are based in Kansas somewhere.So yeah, but they call it
an oregonmy padler because you fold theboat. So like you know, origami
is like paper folding, Well,Oregami is a you fold the boat.

(41:24):
The boat folds and that's how youcarry it around. Yeah, so I
can carry I can carry my theboat on like an armstrap. But they
also have like a little what dothey call a dolly thingy that you can
buy that fits on it that youcan just like drag around if you have
a long way to walk from youryour vehicle to where you want to put
in the water. But it's justa it's a sweet idea. High I

(41:46):
bought mine. Mine was like sevenhundred bucks. It's like a typical price
for a kayak that you could probablyfind, but mine being so like,
I don't have to put it ontop of my car. I don't have
to have a special like rig forit. I can literally just put it
in the back of my suv,carry it out, put it in the
water, unfold it and it workslike a charm. It's really a cool
thing. Yeah, sounds like it. Yeah, so, Brian, if

(42:09):
you like being on the water atall, the Origami Padler's a great option.
I'm just throwing that out there.Well I got that kayak as well,
but it doesn't sound as simple oras complicated as well. Yeah,
you just probably dump yours in thewater and go Yeah. Yeah, most
fun. Call and say you guysare doing a great job. Hey,

(42:31):
thanks man, that means a lotto me. I appreciate you calling in.
Have a good day too, allright, we got phone lines open
four, two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten, and
Patrick is there. Patrick, youwant to get back into our talk about
third party candidate day. Yeah.First thing I wanted to do, Amory,
is offer you my condolences having toput up with Scott today. You

(42:52):
know what, I actually like itas much as much as I I.
We we give each other some badgering. It's always fun to, you know,
have a fresh fson here to see. That's a little unusual. It
energizes me. Patrick, Well,I know Scott personally. I'm the father
of a swowing buddy of his inhigh school, Jason. So we're adding

(43:15):
some credence to the fact that KennedyFriday the thirteenth joke he's doing right now,
and I appreciate that. That's good. All right, all right,
Patrick, what do you got?Lifelong lifelong Democrat, but did vote for
parole vote both times? Okay.I'm a conservative and I voted for Trump

(43:37):
the first time in Biden the secondtime. Okay. And there's a lot
of people out here like me thatcan't stand either of the two candidates and
are going to back Kennedy. Mmhmm. Yeah. So so I this
is why I think him on thedebate stage, not just like the the

(43:57):
well, I don't want to seethe rematch Trump versus Biden, and like
what you talked about the two parties, you just don't feel like either of
them kind of represent what you wantto represent there. But just him having
the voice of reason in between thetwo theoretically right for an independent voter.
And then not just like I hateeverything the Democrats are saying, I hate
everything the Republicans saying, like bothsides just hating whichever candidate or liking whichever

(44:22):
candidate without even knowing what they say. He would actually be a buffer in
that and it would certainly make peopleactually think about what they believe in in
different ways. Not that he's maybethe best candidate, but at least there
would be a voice in the middlesomewhere that the other two sides would have
to either reckon with or respond toto try to come up with ways that,

(44:42):
you know what, we actually havethis stuff that we can do better
than they do, but we couldcompromise in the middle. I think that
would be incredibly valuable. But nobodywants that because, like Scott here said,
is you know you want the Yankeesand the Red Sox and the Blue
Jays didn't earn their spot onto thefield that day. You know what I'm
saying, My choice is this Novemberis the same it was four years ago,

(45:07):
and uh maybe mine is a protestvote, but I think the country
would be better with Kennedy than eitherof the alternatives. I don't think you're
going to be alone and thinking thatway, Patrick, I really appreciate you
calling in today. All right,have a good day, guys. Yeah
you too. I appreciate that Ihave for a year I have done a

(45:28):
very good job of not making aFriday the thirteenth joke for the record,
not that I haven't wanted to.It's all good, you know, it's
just its it sits there, andit sits there, and I just figure
you've heard them all already. SoI was just like, yeah, you
know, I'm not going to bethe guy. Friday the thirteenth was always
fun when my name was in thephone book as a kid, Oh yeah,
is Jason there? No, thisis Patrick. I mean no,

(45:51):
that was a SpongeBob qute. Allright. So uh yeah. So the
my my thought this whole thing forme, and just a to punctuate this
point is I think it's American thatyou earn your spot. But I think
it's even more American to give thesame exposure to all candidates that you possibly
can. And I get that anindependent isn't going to be associated with the

(46:15):
left wing media or the right wingmedia, so they're already facing going to
pill battle in both directions. There'snot exactly an independent media that somebody could,
you know, like latch onto andtry to ride to the top.
But I do think under the circumstancesthat we're talking about right now, where
there are going to be parts ofthe country that are either you know,
I'm not far enough left to likeBiden, I'm not far enough right to

(46:36):
like Donald Trump or anything that theRepublicans are doing. I really would love
to have an alternative candidate to votefor to feel good about. But the
response that you're going to be gettingfrom a lot of people isn't that you
know, well, that candidate's notgood. It's that that candidate has no
chance to win. Why would youthrow your vote away? And I just
hate that that that's the way wetalk about it. Is it really throwing
your vote away? That you arevoting for the most important candidate? I

(46:59):
just I feel like that's something thatwe I feel like we should have the
ability to vote for who we thinkthe best candidate is. And if that
affects the way that the election goes, then so be it, whether or
not that's how I feel or howyou feel. No matter what I feel
like, we should have the abilityto be heard. And it's unfortunate that

(47:20):
not all the viable candidates are gettingthe platform in which to talk to us,
the American people. Craig's on ourphone line at four O two five
five eight to eleven ten. Hello, Craig, what do you got on
this? Well, I just wantto comment on third party. I mean
to me, vote is ludicrous.Vote in the third party because the majority
of the time the third party Canadadoesn't have a chance of winning. Sure,

(47:42):
And you know, and it's it'sjust meaning us. It's come a
cop out. There's going to vote. If a voter can't vote for the
two main candidates, they might asjust stay home, you see what I
mean? Yeah, but Craig,I beg, but Craig that this is
this is what I'm talking about.Though, I understand what you're saying.
And again, like I said,a lot of people are going to say
you're really just throwing your vot away. It makes no sense because they're never
going to win. But my thingis, if enough people voted for that

(48:05):
person, all of a sudden,that creates a movement, right the people
who've created movements or third parties inother countries or political movements. It started
very small and it took time.But if RFK Junior ran and all the
people that are talking about, like, hey, you know what, I
think RFK Junior is going to bethe guy I vote for because I can't
relate to either of the two majorpolitical parties, and he gets like fifteen

(48:25):
percent of the vote, that's goingto be way more than any third party
candidate has gotten in decades. Thenall of a sudden, maybe held leave
that somewhere for somebody else to pickup and try to build the movement four
years from then, and then allof a sudden, maybe that fifteen percent
becomes twenty five percent in the nextelection, and then by the eight years
from then, that movement really hastaken a stronghold. There's a lot of

(48:47):
people that feel that way, andnot only are they a third party candidate
anymore, but they are actually amajor threat to potentially win, and maybe
even without the third party itself win. It could totally change how the left
and the right and their political partiesand their political movements kind of move,
probably more toward the middle of Americalike they used to be, because now

(49:09):
all of a sudden, people areshowing that they really care about that.
I think that it's if you thinkthe best candidates the third party candidate,
the American thing to do is tovote for the candidate you thinks best.
And I feel like I'm gonna dieon that hill. Okay, But like
I said to me, it's likea cop out because you know, but

(49:30):
Craig, what if you think thathe's the best candidate though, if you
agree more with his platforms than eitherof the two major parties, well,
I'm kind of a die in theworld Republican. So I don't think you
know no, I know, Iknow, I know, I know,
Craig, and I'm not trying tosay you personally, But what if somebody
out there told you, I don'tneither political party and the platforms they're running

(49:51):
on. I just disagree with somany things they each have. I agree
more with what RFK is doing,even if they know that that candidate is
likely to lose, and lose bya lot. Doesn't it make sense if
they think he's the best candidate forthem that they spend their vote on him.
It's not necessarily a cop out.They still just think he's the best
candidate, even if he's not goingto win, you know what I mean?
Well, Well, to me,I think it's just I don't know,

(50:14):
but maybe I might send a message, but I still think it's I
mean, third party candidates, likeI said, they'ren't having a chance of
winning, So I just think,well, like you said, I could
send a message. I think it'sjust yeah, yeah, well, Craig,
I appreciate the call. I appreciateyour perspective on this, and you
have a great week. And okay, man, you too, and uh

(50:35):
yeah, we'll get to Chris,rob Mark and everybody else real quick,
just to finish that conversation. I'mnot saying that a third party candidate is
ever specifically going to win, Butif we just keep treating it like,
well, if they're never going towin, so don't vote for him,
don't waste your time voting for him, don't think about them, then we're
missing the point because then we becomeslaves to the Republican or Democratic Party and
we don't ever want to change thatbecause we just think, well, anybody

(50:59):
else doesn't matter, and that's justso un American to me. It just
it doesn't make sense. The wholepoint of what the Finally Fathers wanted was
a competitive process that anybody could voteon a platform that made sense to them.
And just refusing to acknowledge third partycandidates because you think they have no
chance to win just isn't the waythey're supposed to go. Just because the
Toronto Blue Jays don't win a lotof World Series doesn't mean they don't have

(51:20):
any fans. Am I right?More on this on your phone lines four
oh two, five, five,eight to eleven ten on news radio eleven
ten kfab viability of RFK Junior.Even though he's not going to make the
debate stage that is official. Ihave the statement from Donald Trump here.
He made a video. The videodoesn't sound super great. I'm not going
to play that, but I will. What I will do is I will
make sure that you understand what DonaldTrump thought of all of this before.

(51:44):
If we do that, we're gonnaget back to the phones. And we
have Landon four h two, fiveto five, eight to eleven ten is
the number. And Landon appreciate youcalling in today. What's on your mind?
Yeah, correct me if I'm wronghere, Emrie. But wasn't Abraham
Lincoln the first president elected for theRepublican Party as a party candidate. Yeah?
Yeah, it's a little bit differentbecause the Whig Party had been in
shambles for a few years before thatand they weren't going to have a viable

(52:07):
candidate. But yeah, I wasa brand new political party and he was
elected and kind of started the RepublicanParty that we know today. Yeah.
Right, So, I mean Idon't understand the people that want to say,
you know, voting third party isthrowing away your vote. I mean,
if you want to if you wantto change the system, if you
want things to actually change for thebetter, then I feel like you got

(52:27):
to vote for it. I mean, continuing down the same path that we've
been going down for you know howeverlong now Yep, it obviously isn't working.
No, but in the same results, no matter which one, no
matter which party we choose, itgets the same results. Yeah, and
told a bunch of lies, andthey never uphold their truth. Yeah.
And that's the other thing here too, Landing is the more we just pit
one party against each other, themore different they become. Because every single

(52:51):
topic, I mean, heck,you go back to COVID nineteen is a
great example. Every single time thatthere was a development in COVID nineteen,
whether it was mask wearing, whetherit was social distancing, whether it was
what drugs used to to cure it, every single one of those topics became
incredibly politicized because you're either on oneteam or the other team, and it
just it didn't have to Yeah,it didn't have to be that way,

(53:14):
but we made it that way inour country because we don't allow for a
third party to intervene or be kindof an alternative for people to think,
hey, you know what, wedon't have to fight about all this stuff
all the time. That's a shamethat we just feel like we need to
keep it the same way. Idon't get it. Yeah, I mean,
I feel like ten fifteen years ago, you could have Republicans, Democrats,
independents all of the same barbecue andthey could get along talk about their

(53:37):
political differences, but nobody hated eachother, just because they were slightly different
or thought a different way. Yeah, you know, I feel like people
used to be willing to actually heareach other out to grow well, even
where maybe you weren't thinking about something. Yeah, but even then Land didn
Let's think about this, fifteen yearsago, would politics have even come up
at the at the barbecue? That'sthe thing is like, nowadays, you're

(54:00):
going to hang out with somebody oryou get to know somebody, and people
are identifying themselves by their political partyopenly now as part of their identity.
When back in the day, youknow, it was just like, here
are my hobbies, these are thethings that I like, this is the
kind of stuff I'm interested in.And nowadays it's like if you don't say
that you're a Republican or a Democratright up front. If people do that,
and then they either lose friends orthey gain friends based solely on the

(54:22):
fact that there's an R or aD nex to their name, not that
they're a cool person or you haveanything else in common. It's sad.
It's sad what's become of politics inAmerica right now? Oh yeah, and
I think you know, legacy mediaand social media definitely has not help with
any of that. Yeah, socialmedia especially I think has a lot to
do with that. Hey, Landand appreciate the call man. Thanks for
the for the thoughtful wisdom that you'vespurred on us today. Oh, no

(54:45):
worries, Thanks for having me.Anybody else want to call in you can
four oh two five five eight eleventen. Is the number four oh two
five five eight eleven ten. Sothis is what Donald Trump said. He
said, I know RFK wants toget onto the stage on Thursday, and
I'd love to have him, frankly, because I don't think he's much of
a and he's got some very liberal, radical left ideas. But you have
to get certain numbers. That wasthe criteria, and he's way below those

(55:07):
numbers. He's not coming close.So I hope to see him there someday,
but it looks to me like he'snot going to qualify on many fronts.
They say he hurts Biden more thanhe hurts me, and I don't
know if that's true or not.They say he hurts Biden because he's a
serious left person. If he is, that's good. I don't really care.

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That's Donald Trump. He made avideo. Those are the quotes that
he used and look, I don'tI don't know. And Trump also said
he had to do better than sixor seven points. Maybe someday he'll get
there, but I doubt it.That's how the video ended. Look,
here's here's my thing. And Trumpand Biden both should have the same reaction
to this. A year ago,when I took this job, there was

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a moment where RFK Junior was gettinga little bit of momentum as kind of
like this dark horse Democratic spoiler thatcould get in the way of Democrats wanting
to support Joe Biden. Eventually,by the fall, he had just broken
out of the Democratic Party altogether anddecided he was going to run for president
as an independent because they were justnot even paying attention to him. This

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is where I'm at. He's pullingbetter than what Trump is saying. He
is six or seven points. It'snot what he's polling. He was pulling
between fifteen and twenty percent a coupleof months ago, and it's slowly gone
downward. As an independent candidate,he is not automatically on the ballot.
I talked about this before. Heneeds to go state by state. Him
and his campaign state by state andqualify for those ballots, and seeing it

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in the way that their rules werewas that he needs to be on enough
state ballots that he could make twohundred and seventy Electoral College votes. He
didn't do that by the deadline,which was yesterday, and he wasn't going
to This is something he probably willhave accomplished in a couple of months.
Maybe things will change by that Septemberdebate that ABC's doing. I highly doubt
it, and even if he does, they'll create a different rule system to

(56:58):
make sure he doesn't get on thatdebate state. But my thought on this
candidate is that when he started gettingmomentum, Donald Trump was pretty complimentary of
him and said he's a common senseguy. Well, that was when he
was trying to challenge Biden for theseat. Because of course Donald Trump knows
that RFK Junior, if he messeswith the republic or the Democratic Party,

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that that's going to create a riffor a split that is going to only
benefit the Republicans. And now thathe's an opponent, he's not going to
think of that. He's just goingto be saying, hey, you know
what, them's the breaks, buddyboy. You can't debate anyway, you're
not much of a debater. Idon't know if that's a shot at the
way that he talks or what,but you know that dysphonia or whatever.
But I just I feel like theidea of he is being viewed as a

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nobody candidate when the platform that he'sspecifically running on is actually one I think
a lot of Americans would like tolisten to, not just because they may
want to vote for him, butbecause it's going to require Trump and Biden
to have to say, hey,you know what, you know, we
have to we have to say thatif there's people thinking this in America right

(58:05):
now, and if they got upthere and they just obliterated him or eviscerated
him in the way that he thinksright down the middle, you know,
on different topics. He's very farto the left on a lot of things.
He's very far to the right ona lot of things too, based
on what the Democrats think. Ijust think that that there's a lot of
people in the country that can actuallyvibe with that a little bit more than
we're giving them credit for. Larry'son the phone line of four h two,

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five, five eight eleven ten.Larry, appreciate the call today.
What do you think about this?Hi, Amory? Hello, Yeah,
Hey, I'm all for a thirdparty candidate, except the fact that the
Republicans from the Democrats ruled. Youknow, they're calling all the shots.
Yeah, ask Scott, Well,all elections are rigged. He had a

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guest on the show, and I'msure Scott can tell it a lot better
than I can. Yeah, he'sactually stepped out from the studio, but
yeah, I'll ask him. I'llask him in the in the future.
This is the thing, though,Larry, is it's not even about like
the third party as much for likeCNN, as it is about their ratings
and what's like beneficial for their ratings. And it's so much easier for the

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Democrats and the Republicans just a campaignagainst one person, one viable candidate.
Then it would be for them tohave to campaign against a couple. And
that's the problem with a third partycandidate like RFK Junior. We don't know
which side is going to be moreaffected by the support he gets, whether
it's the Democrats or Republicans. That'sstill kind of up in the air.
I would think you would you wouldthink it would harm Biden a little bit
more. But there are some youknow, there are some polls that say

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Trump's losing quite a bit of supportfrom people that would generally be Republicans that
will be voting independent. So I'mnot one hundred percent sure, Larry.
I appreciate the call though, appreciateyou giving us some time today. Thank
you. Let's go ahead and jumpdown to Steve. Hello, Steve,
Welcome to the show today. What'son your mind? Hello? I was
going back to the call or beforelast who said the third party candidate makes

(59:57):
sense purpose and I wanted to reputethat, say that's a fallacy. If
the parties were the same, thenmaybe a third party candidate makes sense,
but they couldn't be much more different. One party wants higher taxes, one
wants lower. Yeah, one partywants higher spending, the other one wants
lower. One party wants abortion restrictionssimilar to Europe at twelve to fifteen weeks.
The other party wants no restriction.I mean, there couldn't be a

(01:00:20):
bigger difference between these two parties.So those people that say there's no difference
between the parties, I don't thinkthey're paying attention there's a huge difference,
and that's why these elections are soimportant. Yeah. No, And I'm
hearing you, Steve, I thinkmaybe, And I don't want to speak
for the caller, but you know, I kind of heard the way that
he's saying, is I like theway that they are established, the way
that they handle their business. Ithink he's referring to them as the same,

(01:00:44):
not necessarily in the way that theygovern. But do you think that
there is room based on the polarizationof those two parties and the things that
you're talking about, is there roomfor some of that compromising thoughts to kind
of exist in the middle somewhere ordo you think that it's just really most
of these things are one or theother and there's no space for a third
party. I think there's a spacefor a centrist candidate like Nikki Haley would

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have run away with a twenty pointsfeet Biden, But right now we're locked
into the dual thing. We needto solve that on this election. In
the future, I think we canget more more candidates that are reflecting the
middle road. That's something obviously ifyou can survive Trump Biden point to Part
two and get to twenty twenty eight. I'm sure it's going to look very
different from there. Appreciate the call, Steve, really appreciate you listening.

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You want to call in you cantfour h two five five eight eleven ten
four h two five five eight eleventen. More on the way on news
radio eleven ten KFAB. That wasthis shooting at a grocery store in Arkansas.
Happened about eleven thirty am Central time. Two people killed, eight more
injured, including a police officer,non life threatening injuries. We don't know

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what this is. We don't knowexactly what the motivation is going to be.
This is a small town thirty twohundred people, about sixty five miles
south of Little Rock, which ofcourse is the largest city in Arkansas.
And we're seeing stuff like this overand over again. And I know what

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the conversation is going to be.You go on social media right now,
and it's certainly going to be,Hey, guns are bad, we need
to eliminate guns from our society kindof thing. On the same day that
the Supreme Court actually made a rulingthat involved the Second Amendment today and basically

(01:02:37):
it upheld a federal law that bansguns for those subject to domestic violence restraining
orders. You know what I mean. So the Supreme Court eight to one.
By the way, the loan descentcoming from Clarence Thomas, but the
Chief Justice Roberts, this is whathe said in court today. We conclude

(01:02:58):
only this, an individual found bya court to pose a credible threat to
the physical safety of another may betemporarily disarmed consistent with the Second Amendment.
Basically, the idea is that ifa person has a violent history or they're
under a restraining order for domestic violence, that it's unlawful for them to own

(01:03:20):
a firearm. Yet, you're goingto go online today and you're going to
see people who are very liberal andthey love their liberal talking points. They
love to feel like them spouting theirliberal talking points into the ether on the
internet on social media makes them somesort of awesome person, and they hope
to gain a lot of liberal botfriends on social media by talking about how

(01:03:45):
cool they are that they have allthese liberal talking points. These people are
going to go on their social mediatoday and say, well, this is
why guns should be banned, sopeople can't shoot people in a small town
of thirty two hundred and kill acouple of people with a gun, and
all we can do is to say, we are thankful that law enforcement got

(01:04:08):
there and we're able to take thisperson. And they were injured. I
as far as the gunman, theywere critically injured, but were put into
custody after law enforcement were able toget them, if you will. But
an employee basically said, multiple agencieswere down here trying to figure out what's

(01:04:29):
going on. We saw policemen runningaround the pharmacy next door to where this
is located. And then Governor SarahHuckabee Sanders said on social media, I
have been briefed on the tragic shootingin ford Ice. This is where this
town is, the small hamlet,if you will, of ford Ice,
and she says, I've been briefon the tragic shooting in FORDYCE, and

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I am in constant contact with statepolice at the scene. I'm thankful to
law enforcement and first responders for theirquick and heroic action to save life.
My prayers are with the victims andthose impacted by this horrific incident. I
don't know exactly, without the withoutthe spot of knowing a motive or anything

(01:05:12):
like that, what this means,but again. I guess you have to.
You're gonna have to deal with theanti gun people again because one idiot
decided to shoot innocent people in andaround a grocery store in a small town
in Arkansas. I guess that's justliving in America in twenty twenty four and

(01:05:35):
trying to exist on social media intwenty twenty four as well. Either way,
a lot of fun going to becoming. We'll have a Friday four
coming to you in the four o'clockhour. We'd love to take your phone
calls as well. Got a coupleof other stories that we're gonna hit on
that I'd love to get your thoughtson. The phone lines are always open,
so if anything is on your mindthat you'd like to talk about,
we have an open phone line Fridayand we'll get to a Friday four.

(01:05:58):
Have a little bit of fun summarysummer related theme I will get to in
a moment, But before we dothat, I wanted one more piece of
news as far as the debate fornext Thursday's concern, and it was the
coin flip. The coin flip?Why was there a coin flip? Well,
one side was in favor of Biden, one side was in favor of

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Trump, and whoever won the coinflip got their choice of whether or not
they wanted the right or left lectern, or if they wanted the last word
they wanted to go first or lastin their closing statement. Well, Joe
Biden chose the lectern he wanted tobe on the right side of the stage

(01:06:45):
as part of the debate next Thursday, and Donald Trump chose to give his
statement last. So basically the ideais going to be And we saw this
in a way with the Sean Hannityled Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis debate,

(01:07:11):
the two governor debate. And Itold you when that happened, it was
in late November. I told youto keep an eye on how they did
that because that was going to bea thing that the format worked. You
heard from both guys. It wassolidly done for both candidates to be able
to speak their minds on the issuesthat they have. And I just looked

(01:07:32):
at that and said, this shouldbe how we do a lot of these
head to head debates, or evenif you had three or four people,
I think this is a much morecontrolled environment. You don't need a big
crowd. I don't get why thereare crowds at debates. It doesn't make
any sense to me, but thiswas a great way to see the effectiveness
of you know, this kind ofatmosphere, and I think it is going
to work based on that and thatalone. But Biden had the right leg

(01:07:57):
turning the debates against Trump in twentytwenty. And then you have the idea
of Donald Trump getting the last word. I'm guessing there's some strategy to that
as well. I also understand thatmaybe if Donald Trump would have gone first,
Biden would feel the need to maybereact to that, or maybe he
just can't get off the stage fastenough. We know that ninety minutes.

(01:08:19):
I don't know how he's gonna behopped up for ninety minutes because even in
the two commercial breaks they have builtin there, there is no there is
no coaching, There is no gettingtogether with campaign people in the commercial break.
Something to keep in mind, butthat's what we know. You're gonna
look at the debate. You're gonnahave Trump on the left and Biden on
the right, and then Trump isgoing to give his closing statements last to

(01:08:43):
the phones. Four oh two,five, five, eight, eleven,
ten, we have Brian on theline, Brian, welcome to the show.
What's on your mind? Hey,every Hey, million thoughts in my
mind right now, but I'll keepit truncated as best as I can here.
But you're growing up, you know, it was kind of ingrained that
there were three things that you didn'ttalk about with your friends or your family,

(01:09:06):
and three things were sex, politics, and religion, and but segueing
into but I think it is mostimportant. You know, you can talk
about those things. But empathy issomething that comes from listening to people.

(01:09:26):
And somewhere along the way I heardor saw maybe in a movie or something,
but they were talking about listening wheresome people are just waiting their turn
to take their mind and not reallyhearing what the other person is saying.
And if more people would actually listen, now, I don't think we'd have
so many concerns about party debates,which you know, yeah, I think

(01:09:51):
there's just enough room for people toactually stop and hear what the other person
is trying to say instead of tryingto over them, and I think we'd
get a lot farther people just listen. Yeah, So, Brian, just
to piggyback off that point, whydo you think that is what happened to

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our society to where all of asudden that became the norm, because you
know, it wasn't It didn't feellike it was all that long ago that
that's the way that things were.But nowadays people are putting their political affiliations,
in their sexual orientations, and theirbios on social media. Yeah,
and I think that's that's exactly wherethe problem lies. I think social media

(01:10:33):
has just kind of it was atthe beginning, it was such a useful
tool to connect people, and thenit just got I can't think of a
I hope this is an appropriate wordradio but bastardized. Yeah, yeah,

(01:10:54):
no, it's okay, And andit just really went off in wrong tangent.
And it has just taken the worldinto this where you can just voice
what you've want and not to therepercussion space to base because going back to
my original point and talk about thosethree things, Yeah, because you had

(01:11:15):
to really know what we're talking about. If somebody's going to ask you questions
about what you were saying. Nowit's just you put it out there,
and it's just you know, yourthoughts are out there and you can't well
you don't have to descend them toeto toe. Right. Well, I
can say this, Brian. It'sone of those things that everything in this

(01:11:35):
country over the two hundred and fiftyyears that we've been trying to do this
thing, it's been a cycle.It's been cyclical since we won the revolution,
and things have kind of corrected themselvesas generations have passed, and hopefully
sooner rather than later, we realizethe damage that has been done to our
society through something like social media.I appreciate the call man, thanks for

(01:11:56):
listening, you bet, thanks everyanother thing I just wanted to bring up.
You talked about listening, but you'renot listening to listen. You're just
waiting for you to be able tosay the point that you want to make.
That's totally accurate, and that issocial media. You get to like
you don't have to wait for yourturn. You literally can just throw your
thought out and put it into theuniverse and you don't even have to listen

(01:12:20):
to anybody to take part in it. It can be a completely one sided
thing. There are people that goon social media. They the only thing
that they do is look for reasonsto get angry and comment all their negativity
on stuff. Because that somehow makesthem feel like they've done something important.
I don't understand it, but Ican't say that I've never done that before,
because I totally have. I grewup and I'm matured. But that

(01:12:43):
was something I was getting myself mixedup in social media all the time,
and I didn't really care what anybodyelse had to say. I knew I
was right, and that's all Icared about. That's just not how it
actually operates in the real world.Four two, five, five, eight,
eleven, ten is the number,and we have Mike on the line.
Mike, Welcome to the show today. What do you got in your
mind? I think this was gonnabe interesting about the debate, as I
agree. I don't think you needan audience because they're gonna they just try

(01:13:04):
to play it up to the youknow, to the studio audience, so
to say're the you know, thehall. What I'm being interesting is if
the so called monitors keep these guyson point, on task. If they
ask a question, just be forceful, demand and answer to the question.
Don't let them go off on theirpolitical tangents, which all these debates regressed

(01:13:26):
to. I'm also gonna be curiousto see how Biden is faring towards coming
up onto the break and how hecomes out after the break, if they
juice him in the locker room,like maybe they hide something in the bathroom
where you can reach in the toiletbowl and grab the gun and go h
you know, take care of themofields the guy in the pizza house before
he runs out. So it's gonnabe is he is he re energized coming

(01:13:48):
back from the break? Yeah,So so that's a great point, Mike.
They have two commercials built, andwe know two commercial breaks are coming
in this debate. They have toldus that there are no note cards,
there's no teleprompters, and all youhave is a pad, a pen,
and a water and there is nomeeting with your people in the break.

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But we'll see how how much thethe enforcement is on that if we come
out of that commercial break and heseems like a completely different guy, because
theoretically speaking, unless he's holding somethingin his pockets, there's not going to
be something for me at least.Uh, he would be wearing down right,
like as ninety minutes wear on,he should be slowing down as ninety
minutes go on and that's okay.Everybody would. At the same time,

(01:14:34):
it's like you're trying to make thisas legitimate as possible. I'd be very
fascinated to see if during the commercialbreak he seems like he's got a little
bit with a pep in his step. I think that's a great point.
Yeah, it'll be entertaining cocktails watching. Oh heck yeah. Man, Hey,
Mike, you should come down andhang out with us at Buffalo Wings
and Rings next Thursday, for I'llbe be thrown out for being too aggressive

(01:14:58):
to the other parties that are there. Mike, appreciate the call. Man.
Thanks, yep. If you gotto something on your mind, debate,
or or anything else, you cancall us four oh two, five
five eight to eleven ten. Fouroh two, five five eight to eleven
ten. More on the Way onnews Radio eleven ten KFAB and we have
John on the line. John,Welcome to the show today. What's on
your mind? Hey, good evoon. It might sound a little conspiracy theorists,

(01:15:19):
but since twenty fifteen, they've hadthese pins where they look like a
normal pen. Everything's just they writejust like a normal pen. But if
you're in a meeting and you andyou put your pen in your mouth.
It actually plays music and you canhear the music through the pen like just

(01:15:40):
like normal because it's a bone conductingspeaker inside the pen. And if they've
miniaturized it and given it to Bidento help him out, I'm I'm just
throwing it out there because if that'sbeen twenty fifteen, it's twenty twenty four.
They've the technology has come forward tolong ways and just every two years
of doubles. Yeah, John,I'll play along with you here. Okay,
So, so does he need anear piece with this or he just

(01:16:04):
needs the pin. No, it'sjust in a pen or a piece put
on the tooth on the back thatway, you can't even see it.
It just looks like it's next toyour tooth, kind of like a temporary
feeling or crown. Right. So, so basically what you're saying is they
could put this in his mouth,and he could have it in his mouth

(01:16:26):
and he could be hearing things throughhis through through okay uh oh, he
could actually be speaking and telling meno, no, no, this is
what you need to say, becauseyou can watch him when he's giving me
the speech. He says there he'sgrambling off the nowhere. Then all of
a sudden he goes, oh,oh yeah, they're saying yeah, Oh,
they're saying who's saying right, Well, well yeah, and he is.
We know. Okay, So basedon what we will see from him

(01:16:48):
all his speeches are on teleprompter andall of his communications, based on what
Kevin McCarthy said when he's been inthe media the last few months, is
that anytime you meet with him,he's got note cards, and he's got
to stick to the note cards.If we go off the note cards,
he can't he can't continue. Sobasically, here, here's what I'll say,
John, And I appreciate you bringingthis up, because I think it's

(01:17:10):
important for us to, you know, be aware of any possible thing that
could happen, and you know,have our eyeballs and anything that maybe seems
a little fishy. But I'll behonest with you. I feel would you
say, John, you listen tothe show like my show with regularity.
You hear me every once in awhile. Oh yeah, okay, So
I'll be honest with you. DoI sound somewhat professional? Like I can

(01:17:31):
communicate with people pretty well? Oh? You can hold your own against anybody
at any time. That's yes,sure you can, all right, I
appreciate that, John. I getincredibly distracted if anything is going on in
my head if I'm trying to lookat something, if so, if like
a producer, because sometimes like Iwas at the College World Series on Monday,

(01:17:53):
and producer sometimes is like whispering stuffin my ear while I'm on the
on the airs. As soon asI start hearing stuff in my ears,
like my brain shuts off for asecond. I can't talk. I might
fake it pretty decently, but Ido get distracted in the middle of a
thought while I'm hearing something else,and I try not to, but at

(01:18:15):
the same time, like that's justkind of human nature, is that you
can't really focus on two things reallywell at once. And I would just
be really surprised if a guy whostumbles and bumbles like he does, and
knowing that there's nowhere to hide rightwhen his mic is on, it's him
talking the way the rules are,Trump can't come in and interrupt him.
He can't interrupt Trump there like heis. Literally when he's talking, it's

(01:18:38):
just him up there and he hasnowhere to hide. I'd be very surprised
for a guy that we already knowhas trouble speaking to us properly right now
with no and minimal distractions. Aguy being able to talk to us in
a coherent way while he's also beingfed lines through a piece in his ear
or his teeth or whatever, youknow what I mean. But the thing

(01:19:00):
about it is he's got to havea coherent thought at first to be able
to concentrate on Yeah, that's hey, you know you know what that that
is also true again, I referto that that cartoon trope that if you
look at like Homer Simpson and yousee what's going on in his brain,
it's a little monkey smashing symbols together, you know what I mean? Like
exactly, Hey, have you heardthe new song from Afroman called A Hunter

(01:19:21):
Got High? Oh? No,I haven't, but I know af like
I'm guessing he just kind of redidin his uh, his his absolutely redid
it. And it's hilarious because hejust he slams. I mean, he's
like body slam and body slam.And the thing about it is that Afroman
got raided and the Feds came inand uh and raided his house, busted

(01:19:42):
down his door and researching for drugs, And at the end of that song
he refers to his house being bustedinto, but nobody got anything because of
the cocaine in the White House.But he got his door busted down by
the Feds and they were searching allover the place for drugs. And he's
like, I'm not supposed to havea thousand pounds of weeds in my suit
jacket. I'm sorry in my bucket. No, no, that Hey,

(01:20:03):
you know what. That's the thing, though, is anybody like that that
has an ability to use their platformfor current events and also to tell the
truth at the same time and beentertaining. It's a tough thing. Afroman's
got it down. Hey, John, I appreciate the call man. Thanks
for listening to the show. Yeah, you too. You want to call
us you can four ROH two fivefive eight eleven ten. Four ROH two
five five eight eleven ten. Ialso want to get to a Friday four.

(01:20:25):
Here. It's a summary one.I want you to be thinking about
things that you do in the summer. I'll explain exactly what this looks like
and what it sounds like, andI'd love to have you take part throughout
the rest of the show. That'llbe coming up to do not Be Shy.
Call us at four h two fivefive eight eleven ten. Four h
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are open, as they always areon this show. Four h two five

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five eight eleven ten Love talking toyou the listener with you got thoughts on
what we're talking about. We gotScott on the line. Scott, welcome
to the show. What are youthinking about? Yeah? On the debate,
I'm hearing people make comments about Biden. Are people listening to Trump?
I mean, he's made unbelievable statementslike we're going to be in World War

(01:21:08):
two pretty soon. Well, that'salready happened. He didn't he got the
name of his own physician, incorrect, he got Nancy. But I mean
the list goes on and on.Sure, I guess Scott, Yeah,
And I'm not like if anybody whosays that Trump doesn't have slip ups in

(01:21:31):
the way that he speaks or theway the things that he's referring to or
remembering things. I mean, he'sbeen pretty just kind of lack of days
ago about remembering things in the pastand the networks have had a field day
fact checking him on a lot ofstuff. But I think it comes down
to the general way that's communicated fora lot of people. Right When Trump
says that, it's like a manwho's seventy eight years old genuinely forgetting it,

(01:21:54):
but he still has coherent thoughts aroundthere. For the Biden stuff,
it generally is a guy that iscompletely forgetting what he's talking about mid sentence
or when he's reading his teleprompter.He's actually reading the prompts on the prompter,
like when he did the four moreyears pause thing, right, So
I don't think it's as much DonaldTrump getting everything right as it is.

(01:22:15):
We haven't seen Donald Trump freeze upin front of a bunch of people and
just not know where he is orwander away from where he's supposed to be.
And I think that's why people areworried more about how they're going to
get Biden hyped up or on whateverfor the debate than Donald Trump, because
his stamina doesn't seem to be aproblem. It's just the stuff that he
says that might not be one hundredpercent accurate. Well, I mean,

(01:22:36):
what's the difference to me? Ramblingand saying stupid things like and kind of
elector it was a great person.Stuff like that is just totally out there.
I mean, it makes no sensewhatsoever, right, Yeah, And

(01:22:57):
it's a different kind of leadership,Scott. And I'm not going to be
like, based on the information Ihave from you in the last sixty seconds,
you and I probably aren't going toagree on what's most important about the
communication skills of a leader. ButI think and I'm speaking angularly here,
not in my personal opinion. I'mnot talking about your personal opinion. I'm
talking about what the general world isthinking as far as the talking points that

(01:23:18):
we're discussing. Is that Joe Bidenhas had multiple episodes in front of cameras,
in front of world leaders, infront of the entire American public,
where he is showing incredible signs ofaging, and we are led to believe
that he is somehow going to beokay four years from now, to be
the leader of the free world.And it's just it's incredible to think that

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the Democratic Party doesn't think that weunderstand that there's no way he's making it
through another four years. He's tryingto win an election in November, so
the Democrats can control who his successoris going to be, which is likely
Kamala Harris, and then they cankind of build around Kamala Harris over the
next four years for the next generationof candidates potentially, But they have been
so poor at generating those that theyneeded to lean on this eighty one year

(01:24:06):
old guy to be the president ofthe United States for them, and their
entire campaign strategy is just talking abouthow bad of a guy Donald Trump is
for the same reasons you're talking aboutScott. He says things that seemingly are
nonsensical or seemingly a leader of theAmerican people should not be saying these things
out loud. But this is whathas gotten him to the American people in

(01:24:28):
the first place, is the factthat he doesn't speak like a politician would
speak. He literally talks to peoplelike they want to be talked to.
And that's why he and his messageresonates I think a lot more than Joe
Biden. Even when you talk aboutthe age related issues maybe both guys might
have, you know, does thatmake sense to an extent, It's just

(01:24:49):
instead of talking about Win Turbine's cancer, I would prefer if he would tell
us what his actual platform is.Haven't heard that from him. I've heard
that he's proposed getting away with InCombeats and putting tariffs on everything. Yeah,

(01:25:10):
that would totally totally blow our economyout of the water. Yeah.
And if that were to happen,it would take Congress to be able to
to be able to agree with that. With the checks and balances, even
if he executive ordered that, theycan they can turn that over if most
of the Republicans disagree with that.But again my point, Scott, and
I appreciate you calling in with yourthoughts today, but generally speaking, again,

(01:25:35):
the argument you're going to hear frompeople based on the comments that you
just made is what does he haveto explain himself for he was the president
for four years before. Just lookat the record of of our economy and
all the stuff that was going on. Then you don't even need him to
tell you about what he's going todo. He already showed it to you.
And if you do a side byside comparison, Biden has done more

(01:26:00):
in his four years than Trump did. How exactly, how exactly, Scott,
you're gonna need to tell me,like specific things on that. If
you're going to have that argument withme, Unemployment was much higher under Trump.
Yeah, how can you describe that, though, Scott, because COVID
nineteen is such a factor to that, and so many people lost their jobs
for something nobody could control. Isit Trump's fault that he was in office

(01:26:23):
when that happened? I mean,because the economy was actually doing very well,
not just on Wall Street, butjust generally speaking, when you talk
about energy costs and what the middleAmerican family was paying in taxes across the
country versus what happened in the wakeof COVID, when we had all these
stimulus payments that came out by theBiden administration to try to help people quell

(01:26:43):
their fears. I understand wanting togive people money because they couldn't work,
or they couldn't make money, orthey couldn't make payments. But at the
same time, we were gonna haveto pay that back in some way to
the economy, which now all ofa sudden has rising prices all over the
place. Are we gonna blame Trumpfor that, Are we gonna blame Biden
for that? Or do we justblame it on the fact that circumstances might
not have been ideal for whoever wasin office at the time, you know
what I mean. Yeah, yeah, Well we're just going to agree.

(01:27:08):
But I just wanted to point outthat people need to listen to what Trump's
saying, and what he says doesn'tmake sense. Hey, man, I
and I appreciate you bringing that up, and it's certainly fair to note that
as well. We can't just putour rose colored glasses on talking about this.
If Donald Trump says some dumb things, or he stumbles going upstairs,
or if he has an old manmoment, we will be sure to cover

(01:27:30):
that. And hopefully, Scott,you're listening to us and you make sure
that we do that, and ifwe don't, you can call in and
hold me accountable. All right,I'll do that. Thank you, Hey,
Scott, appreciate it. Thanks forcalling in and being a part of
the show today. Got Brian onthe line. Brian appreciates you for calling.
Four oh two, five, five, eight to eleven ten. What's
on your mind? Well, sincewe're talking about stimulant sindly debate. Only
one of the two that people havesaid that seemed a stimulant. It's when

(01:27:54):
people on The Apprentice that they sawDonald Trump snorting Adderall. Tom Arnold was
one of those. So if youlook at Tom Arnold Adderall and Donald Trump,
yeah too, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Brian, I'm
not really excited to hear a staunchTom Arnold's from my hometown. I have
nothing but love for the guy andwhat he's giving back to my hometown.
He's definitely been a proud of tomWin throughout his life. But this is

(01:28:15):
a staunch liberal. He's never thoughtabout a Republican positively in his life.
One time, I kind of don'tcare about what he says about Republican politicians
because it will never be positive.You have something else on your mind,
Oh I suppose, like I mentionabout the economy. The way you put
it, it's like Biden got inthe office, spend some money and boom
inflation. But she leave out,you know, the one just plate of

(01:28:38):
accomplishment of Trump, the huge taxcut. Tax cuts don't pay for themselves.
It was a forecast to add onepoint seven trillion to the deficit over
the next ten years. And thenduring COVID it was like you pretend he
wasn't tossing money. Bales out ofairplanes, no checking on who was getting
it, and before COVID deficit wasgoing up, promise the deficit would go

(01:29:02):
down because yeah, yeah, no, no, And Brian, there have
been people that are Republicans that havealso said that they weren't super pleased with
the way Donald Trump and his administrationspent money. My response to that is,
I don't know if there's any wayyou're going to get the deficit down
at all, no matter what.So that's a campaign thing that these people
run on, and I understand itbeing a campaign, But if you,

(01:29:25):
as an American, truly believe thatRepublicans are going to get the deficit down,
you're just again rose colored glasses.That's just not going to happen.
There's so many things that need tohappen in a row for years just to
stop it from growing, let aloneknocking it down. It's just not going
to be possible. What I careabout, Brian, is my pocketbook,
how much it costs me. Myenergy prices are higher now, twice as
high now than they ever were.I'm not even talking about gas prices because

(01:29:48):
I know the President doesn't have thatmuch control over gas prices necessarily, especially
when it comes to foreign stuff happening. But you know what, does Russia
go into Ukraine? If Donald Trumpis is the president of the United States,
does a mos feel like going intoIsrael? It makes it a lot
of sense. On October seventh,if there's strong American presence in the White

(01:30:09):
House, I'm not so sure.And I again, we can't do butterfly
effect here stuff and go backwards.But I'm just saying for everything that you're
saying Donald Trump messed up, orDonald Trump did this, or Donald Trump
is a hypocrite about this, Imean, tell me about another politician that
isn't exactly like that. It's nota matter of this guy's a saint.
It's a matter of this is we'retalking about things in the context so our

(01:30:30):
candidate looks better, and not justcaring about what the results were when they
actually were in power. And that'sreally the discussion we're having here, isn't
it is what the four years ofTrump looked like versus what the four years
of Biden looked like. Ran.The third largest stuff is that in US
history is a portion of the USeconomy. The first was Lincoln, second
was George W. Who herod asurplus from Clinton and then Trump. Of

(01:30:53):
course, Lincoln had the Civil Warfight, so all that adds to inflation.
And all the time when complaining aboutall the deficit, well, taxes
not always oh cut spending, nosethe taxes that will bring down a deficit,
bring down imposition and interest rates.So so, Brian, So,

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Brian, your answer, your answerto the middle America in US addressing the
national debt so we don't have somuch tax money is to increase our tax
money, so we do pay thatand lower that even though that is still
costing the American public more. Yoursolution and your problem are the exact same
thing. So I guess I'm notfollowing. I am not interested in paying

(01:31:33):
more tax money right now. Ican barely get by as I am talking
for middle Americans everywhere. I've alreadypaid enough taxes. Why are you making
me pay more taxes to solve thegovernment's problems? Pay your bills? Irresponsible,
like the Conservative movement is. You'retelling me it's physically fisfiscally irresponsible,

(01:31:55):
Brian, But I I just knowthat you know as far as the economy
is concerned, and we have stoppedtrying to use fossil fuels that we have
as a resource in this country,and we have stopped it because we want
to make the leftist climatologists really happy, the people who are climate change fanatics
really happy by not drilling or notutilizing fossil fuels in this nation and in

(01:32:16):
turn jacking up energy prices for everybody. Yet then we're being told that it's
the Conservatives somehow that are fiscally irresponsible. Tell me another joke, Brian,
but save it for another day,because I want to get to something else
subject. How is that? Howis that not reponsible? Brian? How

(01:32:39):
is that not related to energy costsand fiscal responsibility? Are you telling me
I'm changing the subject to something unrelated, because it's absolutely related. You're telling
me conservatives are fiscally irresponsible. Yetyour political party, the Liberals, have
done nothing but cost the middle Americansmoney by doing all this other stuff,
including over taxing us based on stuffthat we don't believe in, we don't
want to pay for. How isthat supposed to work out? Brian?

(01:33:00):
How is that not related to whatyou're talking about? If I bring up
college forgiveness, college student eight forgiveness, you're gonna tell me that that's not
related to tax money as well.How are you going to tell me that?
How are you going to explain thatand how that's the conservative's fault too.
I'm all related, but I justwanted to talk about how past cuts.
No, no, what you wantedto call me and talk about,

(01:33:21):
Brian. And again I always appreciateyou calling in, but what you wanted
to do is you wanted to callin and make Trump look bad, and
you wanted to make it sound likeall the problems we're facing right now is
still from Trump from four years ago, without talking about anything that Joe Biden
did, which is exactly what's goingto happen next Thursday. They're going to
talk about every single thing that DonaldTrump did wrong or what he's going to
do wrong, and that he wantsto be a dictator, and YadA,

(01:33:42):
YadA, YadA, and they won'thave anything that they have actually accomplished to
talk about in positivity so they canget reelected. They're gonna get reelected on
fear mongering. That's what they're goingto be, Brian. I appreciate the
call, but I'm out of time. I got to move on four forty
eight. If you want to jumpin you can four h two five five,
eight eleven ten Deep Breath news radioline, Inton kfab I want to
get to Chris here, Chris,welcome to the show. Got about a

(01:34:03):
minute here, man, what's onyour mind? All right, Kim?
He just listened to the show.I think Brian and Scott, your last
two callers had valid points to make. And uh, you know, Barack
Obama's economy was inherited by Donald Trumpand that's why things were running so smooth
the first couple of years. Hefailed to react to the coronavirus when he

(01:34:23):
should have taken steps to prevent allthat. How how, how exactly how,
Chris, Chris, I just wantto stop you there on COVID How
how what was he going to dothat anybody else? Like what could anybody
else have done differently than him tostop whatever was going to happen one way
or the other. He could havehired and put together a team, not
hired a team, but put togethera team immediately. He didn't have to

(01:34:44):
to do what though, Chris,like like again, pardon me for being
so frank, but like, likewhat what was what was he going to
do? Like? Uh, whatwould a team have done there, Like
how would that ho would would havebeen different? He could have sent on
masks every America and you know,wear these until we know what's okay.
We wore masks for like two years, dude, and we still all got
it, Like I don't, Idon't know, you know what I mean,

(01:35:06):
like like even after Biden, likewe we kept Chris, I'm sorry
to keep interrupting you, but it'sjust like we got told over and over
and over again, like this ishow we stopped this thing. We did
everything, and they just kept movingthe goalpost and we still all got it.
So I just by what by whatcount? Like Wall Street? Like
stock Market, like that's the onlything that you know, social Security after

(01:35:30):
we all lost our jobs, obviously, Chris, I I appreciate the call.
I wish I had more time todiscuss this with you. Chris.
I'm not discounting anybody's point here.First let's go to Marie. Marie,
we really appreciate you for holding andbeing on the show today. What's on
your mind? All right? Toget a headache listening to the previous callers.
Okay, we're doing better financially.We're paying everybody student loan off.

(01:35:55):
Ye, everybody gets to pay.So if you're a student loan holder,
it's good, dave you one hundredand thirty five thousand a year you have
to make in ioma of a familyof four. Yeah, that's more money.
Rents up everywhere, interest is upeverywhere, and we're in a three
front row right now with not enoughpeople. And they're actually talking about having
women register for the draft. Yeah. Well that's that's under the deal.

(01:36:18):
I mean, that's out there.Yeah. Well, here's the thing.
Here's the thing, Marie, allof that what you said is just outside
the realm of the talking points ofthe Democratic Party. So they'll never Yeah,
they'll never make the money's costing.Yeah, they going on and on
how much better it is under Biden. It isn't we're paying more money.
Yeah, well that's what they wantthough. They think paying more money solves

(01:36:38):
their problems. They want you topay more money. They want you to
pay more money now so you don'thave to pay more money later. And
I'm just like, what, thatdoesn't make any sense because you're making me
pay more money now. I'm noteven going to have any money later the
way that you're making me paid,Well, you know what, I'm going
to go compare my bank account balancewith yours, and let's see if we
can hit McDonald for that five dollarsmeal they don't sell anymore. You want
to go, hey, McDonald doyou said? Yeah, I could go

(01:37:00):
to McDonald's and get like a solidvalue meal for like six fifty. And
now I'm going to mc Well,I haven't got to McDonald's in a while
because I'm trying to, you know, be healthy. But you know,
you go go to McDonald's now,it's like fifteen bucks for one person to
eat there, It's like, whatthe heck happened? Yes? Yeah,
and I don't forget the text,don't forget the tack right, Well,
oh my gosh, Well they areality is gonna hit. Don't find out.

(01:37:23):
We'll see how it goes after November. Yeah, either either way,
and then we sit and watch.Yeah, neither either way, Marie,
You and I both know that theyare just going to claim that it's worse
even if it's better, based onthese numbers. That's just the way politics
work. So yeah it is.Yeah, we sit back and watch them.
That's all we can do right now, and keep paying. Yeah,
get that wallet out he appreciate thecall. Marie, thanks for listening.

(01:37:45):
Hey, you have a good weekend. You take care. Yeah, yeah,
always fun to talk to Marie.All Right, we'll go to Craig.
Hello, Craig, welcome to theshow. What's on your mind?
Yeah, I wanted to mention somebodyabout the deficit. The deficit. You
want to first route, you haveto go back to the Obama administration because
under George W. Bush, we'refighting the war over there. But the

(01:38:08):
deficit was under control and it wasshrinking in some cases. But when Bamba
took over the everything just went downhill. The economy tanked and the deficit exploded.
Yeah, that recession in LA iswhat a lot of people point to,
Craig. And the unfortunate part ofthat is that so early in Obama's
administration, all the Democrats just blameBush for that. Yeah, but the

(01:38:30):
fact is it was I heard froma source that the deficit was shrinking under
Bush. At least it turned thelesser to the latter part of his administration.
Right. And now with the interestis just multiplying, It's like an
exponential thing all of a sudden becauseof the interest rates. I guess the
end of the day, Craig,does anybody really think we're paying that thing
off? It was like no,right, Like, I mean, I
don't even know what that what whateven happens? Right? Can we just

(01:38:54):
default on that? Like how dowe owe? Like are we going to
become Chinese slaves or something if wedon't, you know, pay this off
properly? Like I don't I don'teven know what the consequences for this kind
of thing would be. Like,we know we owe a bunch of countries
and with a bunch of different entitiesthis kind of money. But at the
same time, we still are spendinga lot of money as if that doesn't
even exist. So a lot ofpeople are running in their campaigns on it.

(01:39:15):
But does anybody really think we're payingthis thing off? Like no,
it's maybe interested in it, yeah, but even then, it's just like
and then we still have what thirtythree trillion dollars left to pay? Like
where's that coming from? Right?Like I don't know. I'm just like
it's I get the national debts abig deal, and I get that people
want to have it be in theforefront, But of all of the problems
that we have, that is justone of the most unsolvable things right now.

(01:39:39):
I just would rather see so manyother things get acknowledged, especially like
my personal energy costs. Sorry ifI'm sounding selfish, but I would like
to pay a lot less in myproperty taxes. I'd like to pay a
lot less in taxes in general.I'd like to pay a lot less for
my heater and my air conditioner tooperate during the seasons, you know what
I mean. And all that stuffjust went through the roof because of the
way that we use utilizing energy sourcesin our country. I just don't get

(01:40:03):
it. It doesn't make any senseto me. Yeah, like Paul,
you remember Paul Harvey. Yeah,yeah, Paul Harvey used to say that
the history says the nations can drownand red ink. That's maybe that's the
route we're headed on. You Yeah, you never know, I mean what
he did that in the sixties.It's like, yeah, no, the
seventies, I think, yeah,but I mean like not like, I

(01:40:24):
mean, that's fifty years ago.I mean, think about that. The
guy saw it's a predictable outcome.Hopefully we're not at the end here,
though, Craig, and hopefully Americanscan you know, stay stay strong,
stay together, and we can getback to the way things were with us
all cheering for each other instead ofgetting so opposite of each other. I
appreciate the call man, thanks forlistening to us. Okay, it's one
more thing I want to mention.Yes, right quick. You mentioned about

(01:40:45):
the cost of living. Now,when I go to McDonald's, I have
to I kind of on the tiebudget. I have to use buy one,
get one free coupon to you know, to feed myself in most cases,
you know, so expensive there,you know. Yeah, uh well,
I will say this, Craig,there's absolutely no way that people are
living on the same amount of moneyas they are now. And who's getting

(01:41:05):
raises out there right Like? Minimumwage has gone up for a lot of
hourly workers. But for those ofus who you know, work salary jobs.
When's the last time a lot ofus got a raise, And when's
the next time we can even possiblyget one. We're closer to losing our
jobs than we are being able toget money, more money for us to
pay all this extra money it costsjust to live in this country right now,
and hopefully that can reverse itself soonerrather than later. Appreciate it,

(01:41:29):
Man, thanks for listening. Yeah, so I hope Trump gets in and
turn things around. That's all youcan hope for. Man, I appreciate
the call. Yeah, So herehere's a this is the uh. I
got a couple of emails I wantto read and you can email me to
Emory at kfab dot com. Joelsays, I know it will be hard
to convince those with severe TDS,and that's a Trump arrangement syndrome. But

(01:41:51):
Trump tried to get ivermectin to beapproved and was laughed at. Plus he
had four d A and Chevy startproducing respirators for the masses, and I
think many were unused from what Ican remember. Here's the thing, Joel,
We're gonna have revigionous history on theCOVID stuff and awful lot because people
are going to say I did thisor I did that and blah blah blah.
At the end of the day,as I said earlier, everything from

(01:42:12):
the shutdown, it got political.Like when we said we need to shut
down for two weeks. That waswhen Trump was in office. Everybody says
that Donald Trump was so like flippantabout COVID nineteen. It's like, I
don't think he was. I reallydon't. There's just it's hard to put
into perspective how quickly things changed fromoh, there's this thing in China and

(01:42:35):
a few people in this country aregetting infected with it, to all of
a sudden, how now everybody's gettinginfected with it because we have the ability
to test for it. We didn'thave the ability to test for it until
like two or three months after itcertainly was infecting people. So it's hard
to know like how far along wewere in the what ended up being what
we called a pandemic when it reallywas just us not understand channing how to

(01:43:00):
properly test for this new virus.The origin of the virus got politicized,
right, so what people on theright thought one thing. People on the
left said it was something else.Mask wearing became politicized when people on the
right didn't want to wear a mask. People on the left said it was
going to save your life, eventhough we had plenty of evidence eventually to
the contrary, and they kept changingwhat kind of masks you should be wearing.

(01:43:21):
Right, the iver maxed and likehe mentioned, and the different treatment
options that got politicized, obviously vaccinationsgot politicized. If you were a Republican,
you felt one way about every singleone of those things, and if
you were a Democrat, you feltone way about all those things, and
that just made things worse. Soas much as we want to blame the

(01:43:43):
political parties, we got to blameourselves too. We over overtly politicized the
most important thing that will ever happenin our lifetimes as far as a health
concern, because nobody knew how tohandle it. Nobody knew what was going
on, and all we were leftto do is, you know, agree
or disagree with one of the politicalparties, and once you pledged allegiance to
one side, you were on thatside for the rest of time. I

(01:44:05):
don't know anybody that was like superanti vaccine yet loved the masks right.
I don't know anybody that was reallyfor the idea of ivermectin as a treatment
but also was totally okay with thevaccine. It is just like, did
those people were not out there?You were like Republicans were all of this,

(01:44:29):
Or if you believed one of thosethings, you believed all of those
things, and vice versa. Andthat's one of the reasons why we sit
where we sit now. You can't. I don't think you can blame Trump
for what happened with that, andI don't really even inherently blame Biden for
his response. In the year afterthat, I just hated being lied to.
We were being told all this stuffwas happening, and it was unfounded.
We didn't have proper protocols understood,and the goalpost kept moving every single

(01:44:54):
month we were in a pandemic.We were told if we went inside for
two weeks and did nothing, thatwould kill the virus as we know it
and we would be able to geton with our lives. We did variations
of that, and still had towear a mask for a year and a
half, and still had to doall sorts of bending over backwards to make
sure if you were a business ownerthat you could even stay in business based

(01:45:16):
on all the different regulations. Andit wasn't until twenty twenty three, really
that we finally got fully back tonormal. So I mean, and that
could have happened to any presidential candidate. It could happen at either political party
one way or the other. AllI know is that the American people definitely
were on completely polar opposite sides,and that's just that's just an unfortunate side

(01:45:38):
effect of what ended up happening,and we're still paying the price for that.
That's for sure. That's one ofthe reasons why this is such a
volatile election. And I just hopethat we can still be the America that
we know and love, even thoughwe have that kind of attitude toward a
lot of the politics that we're talkingabout. Four or two, five,
five, eight eleven tents the number. The other email I just wanted to

(01:46:00):
mention real quick was from Don.He said, interrupting callers is lame.
You should be better than that,and goes on to talk about a Trump
speech where he was babbling incoherently.Don For for instance, Don is basically
an email version of Brian, andBrian calls in, he's got all these
liberal talking points. Well, Donis very anti Trump. I don't know
if Don is really a liberal,but he's very anti Trump and interrupting callers

(01:46:25):
is lame. Hey, man,if I get accused of interrupting callers,
I'm interrupting callers who are trying tofill a buster me and not allow me
to have talking points back. AndI hate to break it to you,
but it's my show, and atthe end of the day, if you're
calling my show to talk to me, I'm going to have to interject when
I feel necessary, and I can'tjust have somebody, especially somebody that has

(01:46:45):
so many talking points like Brian orScott usually do that they want to challenge
me on and I'm fine being challengedand I'm fine talking to them, but
they're interrupting me as much as I'minterrupting them. And if they're going to
go on a diet tribe for fiveminutes without and I can't interrupt them,
then you guys are gonna really hatethis radio show. And it's good.
Doesn't even just go to the liberalpeople. It goes to the people on

(01:47:05):
the right side of the aisle too, whether I agree or disagree with them.
That's just kind of part of tryingto manage the radio show. So
you're gonna have to bear with meon the interrupting of callers every once in
a while. Hopefully it doesn't comeacross as disrespectful, because I try really
hard not to be, but sometimes, you know, that's just how things
go, and that's how we moveon. I'll get to the Friday four

(01:47:29):
and some fun stuff that you doduring the summertime. Coming up next on
news Radio eleven ten KFA B PhilWelcome to the show What's on your Mind?
Hey, you know, Memory,I haven't hear I heard much about
this January sixth interruction that the Democratsjust kept saying over and over again since
the Pelosi tapes came out, hertaking the blame for not having a national

(01:47:53):
Guard there. And you know,I don't hear any of Russia, Russia,
Russia anymore coming from the left sincethe fifty one intelligence officials. All
this propaganda was used to convict HunterBiden. You know that Hunter Biden laptop
that was disinformation, convicted Hunter Biden. Why don't we hear about that from
the leftist anymore? They found otherthings to be They found other things to

(01:48:15):
be really angry about and point atDonald Trump peel That's why, Yeah,
this whole January sixth things falling apart. You know today the Supreme Court said
that you have to have a unanimousdecision for a guilty verdict. You know
that was an opposition to what happenedin New York. You know that,
right, yep, And the SupremeCourt also came out and said the judges

(01:48:38):
cannot arbitrarily attach another charge to somethingarbitrarily. You know that, right,
yep. So section fifteen twelve.Half of the case that's against Trump and
Jack Smith has in Washington, DCand about six hundred January sixth people that
are in jail because of section fifteentwelve. I think that's going to be

(01:49:01):
gone, Amory. Yeah. Well, here's the thing, Phil, As
much as the talking points change,they try to keep the liberals and the
sheep on their toes with that andthe talking points, they try to get
as educated as they can because theywant to come up with anything they can
to make the Republicans look stupid andbad even though they're being proven wrong at
every turn. And that's why peoplelike you, Phil need to keep calling

(01:49:24):
into radio shows like this to makesure that they get called out for their
bs. So I appreciate you callingin today. They'd be nice if they
the Democrats and tate responsibility for something. Huh. Yeah, good luck with
that happening at any point in thenear future. Appreciate the call, Phil,
Thanks so much for listening. Yeah, no problem talking to Phil,
to Brian, to Scott to Mike, anybody that's called in, I appreciate

(01:49:48):
it, Craig, everybody, Marietrying to remember everybody, but that makes
the show fun. I want totalk real quick. I'm going to give
you right now my Friday four andmy Friday four is summer camping hobbies.
So what happens when you go camping. I'm a big camping kind of guy.
It's a little hot this coming weekendfor me to go camping, but
I love to be in nature.It's something that I learned I loved during

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the pandemic. It's one of thefew positives that came from that is one
of the things you could go dowas camp And I went and did that
like six or seven times that springand summer, and I just had a
blast. It was so fun.So here on my Friday four of activities
when I'm camping that I love todo. Number one shouldn't surprise you.
Bird watching. When you're out inthe woods, you can see so many
different kinds of birds, and honestly, not even just birds, but the

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wildlife that you see and have achance to encounter, whether it's deer or
in certain places, like we talkedabout, I haven't seen a porcupine in
person. I can't wait to gofind one up there in northern Nebraska.
You have the beavers in animals likethat that you can go see in the
wild. I cannot wait till thenext time I camp, because I know
I'm gonna have an experience onlike anyother. My number two was hiking.

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Now, hiking may sound just alittle bit more, you know, like
you're it's not necessarily like the supercrazy thing to do, but it's really
fun on different terrains and then youcan get to like certain overlooks or different
beautiful parts that they have set upfor you. Hiking I think super underrated.
My wife and I even if wecan't go camping, sometimes we'll go
out into nature and you know,do a three or four mile hike,

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even bring the dogs with us,and have a lot of fun exploring different
trails in different areas around here.And then number three kayaking. I told
you about my origami paddler. I'mhoping to take those out onto a lake
here tonight and just go out thoseThey fold up real nice and I can
carry them in my suv. ButI just love to get out on the

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water it's nice and peaceful and calm. It's just a completely different vibe and
you get the exercise kind of likehiking with your legs. You get to
basically do the same thing, exceptwith your arms when you're out there in
the kayak. And then number four, this one's a little bit weird.
You have to be with the rightpeople or have the right equipment. But
rock climbing, so when you goto certain spots, especially I don't know
about close by, but in differentlike little nooks and crannies, especially when

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you go into like the Tennessee area, or you go out toward the Grand
Canyon and into Nevada. A lotof those state parks national parks, there
are spots where you can get somereally good rock climbing. And if you're
with somebody that knows what they're doing, and if you want to do it
with like the proper equipment, thatis actually super fun. And I like
to do a little bit of rockclimbing in these rock climbing gyms as well.

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It's a little safe for a littlemore controlled environment, but it's just
a fun thing and it's fun todo that with other people. I've obviously,
if you've ever done this. Youneed to watch Free Solo, which
is just an incredible documentary which outlinesa guy named Alex Honoald who Free Solo
climbs a giant basically wall, andit's it's really exhilarating. I mean,

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he in one misstep there, heis gonna die, right, And I
hate to ruin it for you,but you're gonna be sweating in the middle
of this thing, So go inknow that you're probably gonna be sweating.
So my four summer camping hobbies birdwatching, hiking, kayaking, and rock
climbing. If you got some somethings that you like to do when you

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get onto a campground, I'd loveto hear from you. You can call
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to drop me a line via emailEmory at kfab dot com or you can
call in at four oh two fivefive eight eleven ten. Four roh two
five five eight eleven ten. Andyour favorite summer camping hobbies when you go
out to the campsite. One ofthe favorite things that you like to go
do. For me, it wasbird watching, hiking, kayaking, and
doing a little rock climbing. Youcan need some equipment for that one,

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and being with the right people ifyou're a newbie, but a lot of
fun when you do it. Onthe phone line, we have Sean.
Sean appreciate you calling in, man. What's on your mind on this?
Well? What I like to dowhen I go camp geocaching? Oh yeah,
yeah, I actually okay, sothis was interesting. So can you
explain what that is to people whomay not know? Geocashing is an easy

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way to explain it. It's ahigh tech treasure hunt where you don't really
find treasure. You use your smartphoneto locate a specific set of coordinate that
you can get from the geocashing dotcom website to find hidden objects that are
literally everywhere around us. They're usuallya small container with a log book.

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You sign your name and put itback the exact same way you found it
so other people can find it.So can you say how you do this?
Again? So does do people needany additional equipment or just their smartphone?
Just the smartphone and a pen.You got to be able to sign
your your name to the log onceyou find it, all right, Now,

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there are different difficulties which you mightneed other equipment. You might need
to climb a tree, you mightneed a ladder to reach something. Okay,
depending on the difficulty level. Allright, that's cool. I okay.
So when I was like in sixthgrade, I did a camp and
it was like sixth grade camp,and they gave us a compass and there

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was like this thing where you wentstep by step and it would tell you
how many paces in which like directionand it is like an exact direction on
your compass to go to to figureout where the next like step would be,
is that something similar to geo catchingor is it a different version of
geocatching that is that is similar,that is more or less called letterboxing now

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okay, which is which is stillvery similar but more or less that's kind
of like on the in the realmsof orienteering. But still you use your
your your you can use your smartphoneand an app, the geocaching app that
is free, and you can havea good time hiking trails and finding things

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so in your own backyard that youdidn't know we're there. I love that.
It is super cool. Yeah,And orienteering that that is I think
the thing I was thinking of rightthere. That that was always I love
doing that and learn how to dothat. That was a lot of fun.
Sean, appreciate you coming in man, thanks for listening to the show.
Thank you by h Yeah, soso for those let me let me
pull up orienteering real quick, becauseI learned how to do this and I

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always wanted to get back into it, and the the idea of being able
to go back to the way thatwe used to do things like the I
don't know, the idea of likeI don't have my smartphone, I need
to use a compass. I needto use the tools that you know,

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we used to have in you know, boy scouts or whatever when you were
learning about the outdoors. And thiswas before I fell in love with the
outdoors. Uh, but that Imean, it'd be really fun. Orienteering
is a group of sports This isfrom Wikipedia, by the way, that
involve using a map and compass tonavigate from point to point in diverse and
usually unfamiliar terrain whilst moving at speed. Participants are given a topography topographical map

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sorry sorry, topographical map, usuallyespecially prepared orienteering map, whereas they used
to find control points. Yeah,so that's the idea is like you go
point to point to point and figureout how to do that. It's a
lot of fun. I might needto find a spot that might have have
this if they still do this,you know, you figure they would,

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and then it's competition, right tolike how fast you can move through there?
That is super cool orienteering. Gonnahave to go do that. Also
got an email here from Katrina thatI wanted to read of her favorite things
to do when she goes camping,and she says hiking, of course,
fishing. She's liked to camp,I go. I like to go to
lakes too, she says, Ilike camping at lakes. I like camping

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at lakes too. But I'm muchmore of a person that likes to get
into the lake. You know.I don't like you know, you gotta
be careful about those brain eating ambasor whatever. But as long as it's
like safe water, love to,you know, go for a dunk in
the lake. Generally enjoy doing hikingor just sitting and relaxing sometimes. When

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I did therapy a few years ago, it was my first foray into therapy.
I didn't know what I was gettinginto, and the therapist I had
recognized that the one thing that Iseemed to get a lot more out of
was working my brain in different ways. It like really took a lot of
stress off of my mind. Andone thing that I never do that she
said I responded well to was sketching. So I bought a little sketch book

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and some colored pencils, and I'veactually taken those camping with me before and
kind of sitting near by a lakeor something and just kind of sketching what
I'm looking at and thinking about differentthings and making up a thing in my
mind while I'm out there. Incrediblyrelaxing, incredibly useful to trust, get
your mind off of whatever you're thinkingabout. I highly recommend that. She

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says stargazing. Stargaze is a goodone too. My wife and I actually
were in Cancun, not this pastwinter, but the winter before, and
in the area of Cancun that wewere in, I mean, you can
just see anything. I mean it'sjust like super pitch black out there and
you look up, and we downloadedan app that actually could tell us the
positioning of the stars so we couldfigure out and locate what we were seeing,

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and we would see something that wasa little brighter than others and figure
out like what we were looking at. That is super fun as well.
And then Katrina says frog hunting neverused for fishing though catch and release only.
Yeah, the frogs. I'm surethe frogs. We're not in on
the game there, but always makesit a lot of fun when you're out

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there. Like I just like tohunt with my eyes right, Like I
want to find the porcupine. That'sa good example. I want to find
a porcupine. The porcupine when Isee it, I'm just going to try
to position myself to just kind ofmonitor it and watch it. And I'm
going to get a huge kick outof it. I don't need to.
I don't think I do very goodat actually trying to catch a thing.

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Big, big things to Katrina forthe email there. We're gonna go ahead
and take a break and wrap upthe show. I have a few things
that are happening in the Omaha areathis weekend that I'm really excited about,
and I'm going to tell you aboutit next as we wrap up the show
on your Friday on news Radio elevento ten KFAB College World Series Finals start
tomorrow. There's plenty of partying goingon down there right now throughout the night

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on this Friday, and a lotof Tennessee and Texas A and M fans
are going to be throughout the area. Those were the two biggest fan bases
that I saw throughout the weekend lastweekend and throughout the week this weekend.
I know they both thought they hada good chance to win the thing,
and now they're going to play eachother for the championship, and so tomorrow
and Sunday are going to be thefirst two games. If they need a

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third game that will be on Monday, but it's going to be a good
time tonight as well. So ifyou're interested in being around where the party
is, highly recommend going down there. I have a blast. My wife
and I are definitely gonna make onemore trip down there at least to hang
out with all the people in thatvicinity looking at the other things that might
be happening. If that doesn't necessarilywet your whistle, These storm chasers are

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in action in Werner Park over therein Papillion, and you can get very
affordable tickets. Of course, Minorleague baseball is one of the great ways
that you can get the family involvedand go and have a great night out
and on top of that, fireworksafter the game tonight. So it's a
seven h five first pitch, theLouisville Bats are in town, and you
go there, you hang out,watch a great baseball game, and then

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get to enjoy a fireworks show afterit. I don't know how much better
it can get. Also, ourfriends over at Stinton Park they do the
Saturday's Stintson Park which are going tobe taking place obviously that's tomorrow, that's
Saturday. I think that goes onall summer. This is going to be
the first one of those. Tomorrowfree you can just go on down to
Stinson Park in the xarbon Village area. It's not too far away from where
I live, so might check thatout. And then of course you have

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the Omaha Farmers Market that happens downthere at the Old Market tomorrow and then
on Sunday over at Xorbon Village