Don Bacon talks Supreme Court decision and more

Episode Transcript

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One of the important people that wehave a chance to talk to is,
of course, Representative Don Bacon,second Congressional District here in the state of
Nebraska is joining us on the phoneline. And Representative Bacon once again an
honor to have you on the showtoday. Thanks for calling in. Thank
you e Marie, thanks for havingme on. All right, can I
start with the Supreme Court ruling,and mostly not even that, because I

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know you have your job and theother branches the government have their job.
But what do you make of thereaction of some of your colleagues based on
the opinion of the Supreme Court today. I think it was pretty specific that
on his official duties he has thiscommunity. That doesn't mean if he's doing
some official I think it was afear ruling, and I think it's what
I don't I know, it's easyto exaggerate these things and make it worse

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than what they are. Like.Even the descending judges is talking about having
seal teams assassinate opponents. But Ithink this is a good ruling. It
probably is needed because presidents should haveto worry about things that they were doing
in their official capacity coming back toget them. You know after they're gone.
So I think it was a fearruling. When we look at the

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reaction from some of your colleagues,some of the other very liberal people in
Congress, in the Senate, andeven beyond their representative, I think the
big thing is like, well,they now made the president the king,
and this is a guy that willtake full advantage of that, and you
won't be able to do anything.They're going to become a dictator essentially,
And that's not the way that Iread it. But is there there any

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fear for the voting public out therefrom your perspective that we need to be
fearful that whomever is going to bepresident in November, we have to be
worried that they're going to try tomaintain some level of dictatorship. No,
because the Supreme Court was explicit thatI had to be he has immunity once
with the official duties, only inthe official capacity of doing someone in an

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official job as president. Now ifthey're breaking the rule, i'd be outside
of the official capacity. So Ithink this is a narrow ruling, and
it does impact one of the indictmentsthat the president has in Georgia, and
that's probably another reasons some of thefolks in the lefter are angered because it
probably decaps the special prosecutor on theGeorgia case. Yeah, and that seemingly

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is something that they were hoping wouldat least have more information come out before
November, and now it's a waitand see mode and we'll get through November
before that happens. Representative Don Maconjoining us now as somebody who's actively in
politics, You're a person who's runseveral different campaigns, you've won elections.
What do you make of that presidentialdebate last Thursday? I've never seen anything

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like It was the worst debate performanceof at least a presidential debate that I've
ever seen. And I think we'vegot to be candid. I think President
Joe Biden has done He will notwin in November because of this debate,
and I think there's a lot ofpressure behind the scenes to have him stepped
down to for so he won't bethe next dominee for the Denver Party.

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Uh. You know, I've heardfrom my Democratic colleagues in the House.
I mean, they're a lot morehonest behind the scenes than they are on
TV right now, but they're callinghim selfish if he stays in, because
there's no way he can win withwith that debate performance. So at some
point his family and the closest folksthat have to sit down with them and

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say, mister president, you servedfor four years. You cannot win this
November. We need to get someoneelse to compete, and we'll see if
that happens. But he cannot.They can't force him out. He has
to willingly do this because he alreadyhas all the delegates that he needs to
win, you know, in thenomination. So uh, person that that

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debate was so stunning, Uh,single handedly, I think we'll stop President
Biden from from winning, will causehim to lose. So he's going to
have to step down. When youtalk about stepping down, that means handing
over the keys to Kamala Harris andunless she also kind of steps out of
the way, and then I'm surethere's some sort of loophole to where they
can you know, emergency replacement kindof person that can take over. Do

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you know kind of what the thoughtprocess is as to who they might be
thinking is a decent alternative or arethey kind of handcuffed to the idea of
Biden or Kamala right now, basedon, like you said, the fact
that he's going to have to voluntarilymove out of the way, based on
the fact that he's currently the president. I suspect that he won't resign as

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presidency. He'll go through January twentiethof next year. But I think he's
got to step down as the nomineeand so sort of clarify that because there's
some people thinking maybe should stup downto as president, which maybe should because
that performance is so bad. Ithink it does communicate weakness to Russia,
China and others who are watching usthat I mean it does. I think

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it elevates the possibility they will wantto make it. They may want to
take advantage of his weakness. Nowwho can be their next dominie. I
think there's going to be a lotof pressure for it to be Vice President
Herris, but there's a lot ofinternal pressure not to get her. Pulling
numbers are just as bad as Presidentof Biden's, and I don't think they

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think she could win. No Barberso think they're gonna be looking out elsewhere.
You hear a lot of about GovernorWhitmer. I don't know if she
is any better. Some people aretalking about, you know, we have
a Democrat governors in North Carolina andKentucky and that they've done pretty well getting
the middle voters for the swing voters. So there could be a push that

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way, but it's going to bea free for all at the nomination,
assuming President Biden decides not to run. We're speaking with Representative Don Bacon of
Nebraska here representing the Omaha District.Obviously, Omaha district's pretty interesting because it
doesn't vote. It's electorate vote withthe rest of the nation. I mean,
what can you make of the votinghabits of this district knowing that Biden

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won pretty candidly handily based on youknow, the rest of Nebraska and the
surrounding states in the last election,and what you can expect after what we
saw in front of our eyes onlive television on Thursday, what could potentially
happen in this district in November.You know, the last numbers I had
on the president's race, it's adad heat, perhaps even with a slight

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advantage for President Trump. And thereason is compared to four years ago,
folks were angry at the all thechaos, the name calling of President Trump,
and that in this district, youknow, it's they want some at
government and they want someone that Ithink they prefer a center right a candidate,
but they want some at governor andthey don't they don't like all the

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name calling. And I think theyhope that President Biden was going to be
more moderate and a steady hand,because that's what he campaigned as when he
was campaign against Bernie Sanders. Butnow they've seen the last four years and
President Biden's degas are just as high, if not higher than President Trump's.
In this district, they didn't likeAfghanistan. I surely didn't. That broke

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my heart after multiple deployments in thatpart of the world world and to see
how we had just pulled out ofthere was the worst disaster that I've seen.
And then you look at the economy. The average Americans has two point
two percent less buying power today thanthey did four years ago. Inflation exceeded
the wages wage increases, and Ithink too, when they see the border,

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it's an utter chaos down there.And they saw President Trump use the
laws that were there and did whathe could to secure the border. And
President Biden's within one day took awayall those actions of President Trump, and
we've had approximately ten million people comehere illegally, and a lot of these
murders of innocent women and young girlsdone by illegal migrants. It's really you

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know, anger people throughout this country, but particularly on our own district.
And in every case, our governmenthad these guys in custody but then released
them. And so I did youput these things combined? Right now?
It's anybody's race. You're in thesec industry. It's not the same that
it was four years ago. Speakingof races. Obviously you're going to be

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running, you know, your owncampaign as most of your colleagues and the
House Representatives are going to the conversationabout your seat, and also the seat
in Iowa that's the southwestern Iowa seat, not necessarily pot of Watamey County,
but the Zach Nunn seat as potentialopportunities to grab and here in the Midwest,
and with as close as the raceis and as close as power is

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right now and the House of Representatives, what do you say to the voters
who may not be super excited totake part in this election as a voter
because they're just so upset about theiroptions as president, What could you tell
them about you know, what you'reseeing as a democracratic or as a Republican,
but knowing that what the Democratic Partyagenda could be if they get back

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into you know, power in allin both branches of Congress and then of
course in the executive as well.You know, when the Republicans had power
in the House, the Senate andthe presidency, we did not get rid
of the filibuster. The one thingthat we can expect if they have a
majority in the Democrats have majoritian ofthe Senate in the House and the President
the Senator. Democrats senators have alreadycommitted to getting rid of the filibuster.

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And this should scare us because thatmeans they want to pack the Supreme Court
ad justices. Although they will passa radical abortion bill. They've already promised
it. They'll basically mandate abortion ondemand with no restrictions until birth. You'll
probably even see federal funding for this. So this is what the Democrats and
the Senate are promising. And todo that, they have to get rid

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of the filibuster, and they've committedto it. Now we would have they
had to control of the House,the Senate, and the President two years
ago, but Mansion and Cinema,two Democratic senators protected the filibuster. They're
going to be gone. And soif we get a Democrat majority this time,
you know, across the board,you will see they'll take out the

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filibuster and it will be a veryradical agenda even with a narrow majority.
And that's what you can expect.So it's very important that we come out
and vote. I think it's veryimportant that we hold the House. We
have been able to stop, youknow, a lot of the agenda that
President Biden rant Or was doing thefirst two years with our majority, and
we got to take back the Senate. I think the Senate looks promising just

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because the map is in our favor. And I also think it looks promising
in the House for us to holdit right now because the most contentious Democrat
seats are vacant, and so they'reeasier to win in a vacancyat and whereas
the seats are going after on theRepublican side, all the incumbents are staying
on and so I think we havethe advantage there as well. But we

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can't take it for granted. Ithink in my own race, I think
the issues favor myself with a border, crime, the economy, so I
think those are the top issues.And also I think I got a good
record to run on. I've beenable to get more legislation passed than any
Republican in the last three years.I've had the most bills signed in the
law, the most effective, andI'm the Cyber Warfare sub Committee chairman now

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and previous to that, I've beenable to get thirty one improve us to
our military quality of life this pastyear. So I have a good record
to run on in a record ofaccomplishments. And I'll just be a look
at Tony Bargas and say he doesn'tvote, or he votes present twenty percent
of the time on tough votes,you can't count on him. He just
won't vote. And even on theschool choice bill how to vote, he

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didn't vote at all. And sowe're going to focus on him being missing
in action. And I think votersexpect you to expect their representatives to show
up and vote. Don Bacon representeda second congressional district in Nebraska. Thanks
so much for the time, asalways, thank you anything that you want
to talk about just let us knowthank you. I appreciate the time.
Yeah, absolutely, And that goeshonestly for anybody who's out there in politics.

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I wants to talk about something importantin the news. I don't know
about you, Matt, but I'mhere most every day. I mean,
if they wanted to get in touch, we could be in touch.