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(00:00):
My dad works in radio. Hewasn't a life long radio person, but
he got into radio when I wasa small child. I was exposed to
the radio business. I was alwayspretty good at talking. My dad's a
good talker and storyteller too, butnever really interested in broadcasting and doesn't really
like a live microphone. You know, there are people like that. They're
(00:21):
good storytellers, but you put amicrophone in front of their face, it
kind of changes the complexion of theconversation quite a bit. And I wasn't
like. I wasn't afraid of themicrophone at first. You know, you
kind of get used to it aftergeting some practice in I don't am I
a NEPO baby, though, becauseI was hired on a very cheap rate
to do baseball and softball games whenthey were in a pinch when I was
nineteen years old. Because that's howI got started in broadcasting. I didn't
(00:43):
go to broadcasting school. I justapplied to do summer baseball softball, and
that's how I got hired my firstjob twenty five bucks a game. Wasn't
awesome to pay, but I didn'tcare. I kept my parents off my
back for the summer you know whatI mean. Yeah, it wasn't about
the money. It was about havinga summer job that I didn't hate,
(01:03):
and so I would do that,and I learned how to broadcast a couple
of years to get like somewhat decentat it and fell in love with it
when you started getting good. Butlike, I don't know if I get
that job, or even I'm awareof that job or am interested in the
job to begin with, To behonest with you, without my dad already
working for the radio station, AmI a nepo? Baby? I've always
well, first off, I've alwaysheard it pronounced nepo. Is it neo
(01:25):
or it's nepotism, But when it'san epo again, this is my brain
thinking, Okay, my brain islike, it should be nepo. If
that's like, if it wants tobe nepo, there needs to be another
p in there. If we're ifwe're now, if we say nepotism as
a whole, then obviously it's nepo. Yeah, but I don't want to
get that caught up on it.I just wanted to throw that out there.
Yeah, you're probably right, justcall it nepo nepotism baby. Yeah,
(01:48):
well it's a gif jiff all thatstuff, you know, But tomato,
tomato. I my inklining is thatthat was a nepotism higher. But
are you a neo baby? Idon't know, Well, because it's not
like you were being hired into acushy gig that I mean where there's a
whole other people in front of youthat you just got pushed into that position
right in front of a whole bunchof people. That'd be one thing.
(02:10):
But and I think like nepotism isa thing, but it's not always inherently
bad, because isn't it wouldn't itbe nice? Like there are certain positions
where it's like, you know what, it might be nice to have a
family member in that job for alot of reasons. You know, if
it's better for the company, andit's a nepotism higher and it's your company,
it's kind of like stay out ofmy business, you know what I
(02:30):
mean. Yeah, but then youhave all of these other things that you
have to go through protocol wise.Now they open that job for application,
because I think you have to withequal opportunity employer stuff, which is a
thing, and you know, likehow the NFL has like the Rooney Rule,
and there are different things like thatwhere people of minorities do have the
ability, just like you have tointerview a candidate that is diverse. I
(02:53):
was in a small town Iowa.I don't think it was that crazy,
but you know, you have thosethings that you have to monitor. At
the same time, You're right,did I have an unfair advantage just being
close to the situation? Probably everyhire that happened after that had nothing to
do with who my dad was,though, for whatever that's worth, I
got a favorable start in the businessbecause my dad probably worked in that building.
(03:14):
But everything I did after that wasme. Yeah, So how are
we feeling about somebody like Bronnie Jamesor gosh, anybody who is a high
profile child of someone famous who inheritsa lot of money through nothing they did
on their own except be born tothe right people. Bronnie James is an
example I'm using because I'm being gaslightedconsistently by people in the NBA and by
(03:38):
JJ Reddick. Today, as theLakers introduced their two draft picks, Dalton
Connect, who's a sharpshooting guy fromTennessee, Creighton fans will know that well
because he burned them right out ofthe NCAA tournament. And then Bronnie James,
who was a fifty fifth overall pick, who we were being told as
the draft was going on and wewere paying attention to this last week,
that Rich Paul, who's Lebron's longtimeagent and is serving a his a for
(04:00):
Bronnie, don't pick him or he'llplay in Australia. And nobody seemed to
be interested in picking him even inthat situation. Yet head coach JJ Reddick
says Bronni has earned this through hardwork and there's a lot to like about
his game. The same guy who, as a freshman at USC a bad
Pac twelve team, averaged under fivepoints per game and couldn't get himself in
the rotation regularly in his one collegiateseason. Am I missing something here or
(04:25):
are we all being gaslighting and expectedto just like take this and pretend like
this is nothing important. I justdon't understand why people can't be honest,
because because there's no way he's notan EPO. Baby. Yeah, Why
can't JJ Reddick just say, yeah, it was a cool story. It's
a really remarkable thing. There arepictures of Lebron James carrying Bronni as a
(04:46):
baby around the court whenever he wasstill in the NBA, and now to
things that their teammates. If Lebronsigns with the Lakers, which certainly he
will, it's a cool story.So why can't we just say, yeah,
we did it for that, becauseit's a cool story, and because
his career will probably they flourish betterhere than anywhere else because his dad is
on the team and they have agreat relationship. I don't know why we
can't just say what's true out loud. So why can't we? Though?
(05:11):
Is there because rules around it whenthey get in trouble. That's the only
thing I could think of. Well, in broadcasting, there's a lot of
nepotism, I mean sports broadcasting,especially Joe Buck being a good example.
Joe Buck's dad, Jack Buck,longtime famous broadcaster. Joe makes fun of
this a whole lot, but there'sreason to believe that Joe does earn a
lot of the stuff that he has. The next generation of that is Noah
Eagle, Iron Eagle's son, NoahEagle. He's gotten a ton of like
(05:34):
high profile assignments already, he's inhis mid twenties still. But also it
was not that these guys, notthat these guys suck by the way,
I think they're good at what theydo, but they have an advantage of
who Pops is. They also havean advantage in the industry because they grew
up with it. Like if yourdad and mom were in Hollywood as great
actor actress got lots of great rolesand you got to watch that, and
(05:57):
they came home and spent time withyou, teaching you these techniques, and
you knew how the business worked becausethey were in it. Yeah, you
were seeing how the business worked whenyou were fourteen years old. Bronnie James
went to practice with his teams andlearned the game. But then he went
home and he learned it more likethat's that's the head up that that he
gets that other people don't. It'sinherent. Life's unfair, you know.
(06:19):
Yeah, but it's a six'four guy who averaged less than five points
a game for a bad team.Yeah yeah, okay, So like I'm
he's not an NBA player. Ifthis is any other six or four guy
who's not nineteen years old, nobodyeven knows who he is. So why
can't we say the truth out loud? That's what I'm asking. What's the
(06:39):
why are we being gaslighted as tothe fact that no, no, this
guy's actually a really special guy andhe's earned this through his hard work.
What are you talking about? Somebodyhelped me because they don't want to They
don't want to say something that seemslike regressive thinking. Right, Yeah,
but that's it's so obvious. Thisseems to be so obvious, right.
I talked to Iron Ego, bythe way, one time. I didn't
(07:00):
ask him specifically about Noah, butI talked to him and I said,
you know, do you feel likebroadcasting like there are some unfair advantages for
some of the people in the industrywho have been around with their fathers or
mothers have been able to get themstarted at a younger age. And he
told me point blank. And Ididn't mention his son's name, obviously,
(07:21):
I didn't want him to take itat all personally, but he said something
along the lines of the cream willalways rise to the top, it will
always rise to the time. Ifyou're good at this, you're going to
have a chance to stay good atthis. There's a reason we haven't seen
as much of Jack Collinsworth as we'veseen of Noah Eagle, and that's because
Noah Eagle is better at what hedoes than Jack Collinsworth does. Even though
(07:45):
Jack Collinsworth's dad Chris Collinsworth, longtimebroadcaster and NFL player, Jack's gotten a
lot of opportunities and still does havea lot of opportunities, but he's not
getting assigned anything more beyond the confinesof what Chris is also involved in.
So theoretically, I could buy theidea that, well, if you're just
good at it, you're gonna havea chance to make it. There's no
(08:07):
guarantee that you get to stay inthe business. I one hundred percent see
that point. However, my counterpointwould be the music industry. There are
countless incredibly gifted musicians who never geta shot, and then Kesha gets a
record deal because she has people inthe business. So and that is time
after time. It's amazing the amountof musical artists who are in the business
(08:31):
who have a connection like Gwen StefaniI love, no doubt, but I
think it was her uncle who wasin the business. Like that's a bad
example because they're actually good, that'strue. And also if she had,
she would have a head up inthe competition because she probably grew up around
music and that's a part of ittoo, right your previous point. Yeah,
(08:54):
But I do think though that thereare plenty of examples you can find
them all over the place of like, well, you know, they call
them industry plans. You know,how long until we see Onyx Morris Set
taking over the radio waves. Well, she certainly would have an inside track
that other people told. Does shejust go by Onyx? Yeah? Onyx
more as Set doesn't really roll offthe tongue onyx. And if you just
(09:16):
go by Onyx, then you like, nobody can accuse you of nepotism until
they go on a Google because you'renot using the last name of your famous
mom. Yeah, there you go. I don't want anybody to think that.
I think it's wrong that kids wholike you want to position your kids,
well, don't you. I mean, like that's kind of the whole
point. Like, I'm if Iever am blessed enough or decide to have
children, and I have children,I'm gonna do everything I can to set
(09:39):
them up for success, no matterwhat that means. Absolutely, if they
choose to be in my industry likeso many have before. I'm gonna do
everything I can to get them offon the right foot, but I can't
keep them there if they don't havethe goods, right, Bronnie James that
there's no guarantee he's gonna play onthe floor, right, He's gonna probably
(10:00):
play in the Summer League, whichstarts, by the way, this weekend.
It'd be interesting to see what they'reup to and what they're doing.
And JJ Redicks never coached anybody,so especially professionals, like I think maybe
he's like a volunteer coach for likea middle school or a high school or
something. He's a good player,he's a good broadcaster. Doesn't mean he's
gonna be a good coach. Butit'll be interesting to see if he's also
(10:20):
helping coach that team to get alittle bit more experience. But how do
you use Brownie James? And howlong before lebron says no, you need
to do this, this, andthis with him? Does that then cross
the line? Does that cross adifferent line? And how does this relate
to like Fanasas and Tintacumbo, whichis Jannie's former two time MVP. Jannis
in Tintacumbo's brother who's terrible at basketballbut is an NBA guy still playing on
(10:45):
the same team as Giannis, andhe gets to play when the Bucks are
either winning by a lot or losingby a lot. But he's terrible and
he set his brother up for success. Like, how do we fault?
Who do we blame for that?I guess this is my thing, like
the nasais Antetokumpo is never going toplay in an important minutes in the NBA,
(11:07):
so it's going to be interesting tosee, like how they handle Brownie
and how far that nepotism goes.If he's starting at point guard in the
playoffs for the Lakers, I'll befloored, floored, I tell you yeah.
If he makes the roster, I'dbe surprised. We got more on
the way five o'clock hour, NewsRadio eleven to ten KFIB
My dad works in radio. Hewasn't a life long radio person, but
he got into radio when I wasa small child. I was exposed to
the radio business. I was alwayspretty good at talking. My dad's a
good talker and storyteller too, butnever really interested in broadcasting and doesn't really
like a live microphone. You know, there are people like that. They're
(00:21):
good storytellers, but you put amicrophone in front of their face, it
kind of changes the complexion of theconversation quite a bit. And I wasn't
like. I wasn't afraid of themicrophone at first. You know, you
kind of get used to it aftergeting some practice in I don't am I
a NEPO baby, though, becauseI was hired on a very cheap rate
to do baseball and softball games whenthey were in a pinch when I was
nineteen years old. Because that's howI got started in broadcasting. I didn't
(00:43):
go to broadcasting school. I justapplied to do summer baseball softball, and
that's how I got hired my firstjob twenty five bucks a game. Wasn't
awesome to pay, but I didn'tcare. I kept my parents off my
back for the summer you know whatI mean. Yeah, it wasn't about
the money. It was about havinga summer job that I didn't hate,
(01:03):
and so I would do that,and I learned how to broadcast a couple
of years to get like somewhat decentat it and fell in love with it
when you started getting good. Butlike, I don't know if I get
that job, or even I'm awareof that job or am interested in the
job to begin with, To behonest with you, without my dad already
working for the radio station, AmI a nepo? Baby? I've always
well, first off, I've alwaysheard it pronounced nepo. Is it neo
(01:25):
or it's nepotism, But when it'san epo again, this is my brain
thinking, Okay, my brain islike, it should be nepo. If
that's like, if it wants tobe nepo, there needs to be another
p in there. If we're ifwe're now, if we say nepotism as
a whole, then obviously it's nepo. Yeah, but I don't want to
get that caught up on it.I just wanted to throw that out there.
Yeah, you're probably right, justcall it nepo nepotism baby. Yeah,
(01:48):
well it's a gif jiff all thatstuff, you know, But tomato,
tomato. I my inklining is thatthat was a nepotism higher. But
are you a neo baby? Idon't know, Well, because it's not
like you were being hired into acushy gig that I mean where there's a
whole other people in front of youthat you just got pushed into that position
right in front of a whole bunchof people. That'd be one thing.
(02:10):
But and I think like nepotism isa thing, but it's not always inherently
bad, because isn't it wouldn't itbe nice? Like there are certain positions
where it's like, you know what, it might be nice to have a
family member in that job for alot of reasons. You know, if
it's better for the company, andit's a nepotism higher and it's your company,
it's kind of like stay out ofmy business, you know what I
(02:30):
mean. Yeah, but then youhave all of these other things that you
have to go through protocol wise.Now they open that job for application,
because I think you have to withequal opportunity employer stuff, which is a
thing, and you know, likehow the NFL has like the Rooney Rule,
and there are different things like thatwhere people of minorities do have the
ability, just like you have tointerview a candidate that is diverse. I
(02:53):
was in a small town Iowa.I don't think it was that crazy,
but you know, you have thosethings that you have to monitor. At
the same time, You're right,did I have an unfair advantage just being
close to the situation? Probably everyhire that happened after that had nothing to
do with who my dad was,though, for whatever that's worth, I
got a favorable start in the businessbecause my dad probably worked in that building.
(03:14):
But everything I did after that wasme. Yeah, So how are
we feeling about somebody like Bronnie Jamesor gosh, anybody who is a high
profile child of someone famous who inheritsa lot of money through nothing they did
on their own except be born tothe right people. Bronnie James is an
example I'm using because I'm being gaslightedconsistently by people in the NBA and by
(03:38):
JJ Reddick. Today, as theLakers introduced their two draft picks, Dalton
Connect, who's a sharpshooting guy fromTennessee, Creighton fans will know that well
because he burned them right out ofthe NCAA tournament. And then Bronnie James,
who was a fifty fifth overall pick, who we were being told as
the draft was going on and wewere paying attention to this last week,
that Rich Paul, who's Lebron's longtimeagent and is serving a his a for
(04:00):
Bronnie, don't pick him or he'llplay in Australia. And nobody seemed to
be interested in picking him even inthat situation. Yet head coach JJ Reddick
says Bronni has earned this through hardwork and there's a lot to like about
his game. The same guy who, as a freshman at USC a bad
Pac twelve team, averaged under fivepoints per game and couldn't get himself in
the rotation regularly in his one collegiateseason. Am I missing something here or
(04:25):
are we all being gaslighting and expectedto just like take this and pretend like
this is nothing important. I justdon't understand why people can't be honest,
because because there's no way he's notan EPO. Baby. Yeah, Why
can't JJ Reddick just say, yeah, it was a cool story. It's
a really remarkable thing. There arepictures of Lebron James carrying Bronni as a
(04:46):
baby around the court whenever he wasstill in the NBA, and now to
things that their teammates. If Lebronsigns with the Lakers, which certainly he
will, it's a cool story.So why can't we just say, yeah,
we did it for that, becauseit's a cool story, and because
his career will probably they flourish betterhere than anywhere else because his dad is
on the team and they have agreat relationship. I don't know why we
can't just say what's true out loud. So why can't we? Though?
(05:11):
Is there because rules around it whenthey get in trouble. That's the only
thing I could think of. Well, in broadcasting, there's a lot of
nepotism, I mean sports broadcasting,especially Joe Buck being a good example.
Joe Buck's dad, Jack Buck,longtime famous broadcaster. Joe makes fun of
this a whole lot, but there'sreason to believe that Joe does earn a
lot of the stuff that he has. The next generation of that is Noah
Eagle, Iron Eagle's son, NoahEagle. He's gotten a ton of like
(05:34):
high profile assignments already, he's inhis mid twenties still. But also it
was not that these guys, notthat these guys suck by the way,
I think they're good at what theydo, but they have an advantage of
who Pops is. They also havean advantage in the industry because they grew
up with it. Like if yourdad and mom were in Hollywood as great
actor actress got lots of great rolesand you got to watch that, and
(05:57):
they came home and spent time withyou, teaching you these techniques, and
you knew how the business worked becausethey were in it. Yeah, you
were seeing how the business worked whenyou were fourteen years old. Bronnie James
went to practice with his teams andlearned the game. But then he went
home and he learned it more likethat's that's the head up that that he
gets that other people don't. It'sinherent. Life's unfair, you know.
(06:19):
Yeah, but it's a six'four guy who averaged less than five points
a game for a bad team.Yeah yeah, okay, So like I'm
he's not an NBA player. Ifthis is any other six or four guy
who's not nineteen years old, nobodyeven knows who he is. So why
can't we say the truth out loud? That's what I'm asking. What's the
(06:39):
why are we being gaslighted as tothe fact that no, no, this
guy's actually a really special guy andhe's earned this through his hard work.
What are you talking about? Somebodyhelped me because they don't want to They
don't want to say something that seemslike regressive thinking. Right, Yeah,
but that's it's so obvious. Thisseems to be so obvious, right.
I talked to Iron Ego, bythe way, one time. I didn't
(07:00):
ask him specifically about Noah, butI talked to him and I said,
you know, do you feel likebroadcasting like there are some unfair advantages for
some of the people in the industrywho have been around with their fathers or
mothers have been able to get themstarted at a younger age. And he
told me point blank. And Ididn't mention his son's name, obviously,
(07:21):
I didn't want him to take itat all personally, but he said something
along the lines of the cream willalways rise to the top, it will
always rise to the time. Ifyou're good at this, you're going to
have a chance to stay good atthis. There's a reason we haven't seen
as much of Jack Collinsworth as we'veseen of Noah Eagle, and that's because
Noah Eagle is better at what hedoes than Jack Collinsworth does. Even though
(07:45):
Jack Collinsworth's dad Chris Collinsworth, longtimebroadcaster and NFL player, Jack's gotten a
lot of opportunities and still does havea lot of opportunities, but he's not
getting assigned anything more beyond the confinesof what Chris is also involved in.
So theoretically, I could buy theidea that, well, if you're just
good at it, you're gonna havea chance to make it. There's no
(08:07):
guarantee that you get to stay inthe business. I one hundred percent see
that point. However, my counterpointwould be the music industry. There are
countless incredibly gifted musicians who never geta shot, and then Kesha gets a
record deal because she has people inthe business. So and that is time
after time. It's amazing the amountof musical artists who are in the business
(08:31):
who have a connection like Gwen StefaniI love, no doubt, but I
think it was her uncle who wasin the business. Like that's a bad
example because they're actually good, that'strue. And also if she had,
she would have a head up inthe competition because she probably grew up around
music and that's a part of ittoo, right your previous point. Yeah,
(08:54):
But I do think though that thereare plenty of examples you can find
them all over the place of like, well, you know, they call
them industry plans. You know,how long until we see Onyx Morris Set
taking over the radio waves. Well, she certainly would have an inside track
that other people told. Does shejust go by Onyx? Yeah? Onyx
more as Set doesn't really roll offthe tongue onyx. And if you just
(09:16):
go by Onyx, then you like, nobody can accuse you of nepotism until
they go on a Google because you'renot using the last name of your famous
mom. Yeah, there you go. I don't want anybody to think that.
I think it's wrong that kids wholike you want to position your kids,
well, don't you. I mean, like that's kind of the whole
point. Like, I'm if Iever am blessed enough or decide to have
children, and I have children,I'm gonna do everything I can to set
(09:39):
them up for success, no matterwhat that means. Absolutely, if they
choose to be in my industry likeso many have before. I'm gonna do
everything I can to get them offon the right foot, but I can't
keep them there if they don't havethe goods, right, Bronnie James that
there's no guarantee he's gonna play onthe floor, right, He's gonna probably
(10:00):
play in the Summer League, whichstarts, by the way, this weekend.
It'd be interesting to see what they'reup to and what they're doing.
And JJ Redicks never coached anybody,so especially professionals, like I think maybe
he's like a volunteer coach for likea middle school or a high school or
something. He's a good player,he's a good broadcaster. Doesn't mean he's
gonna be a good coach. Butit'll be interesting to see if he's also
(10:20):
helping coach that team to get alittle bit more experience. But how do
you use Brownie James? And howlong before lebron says no, you need
to do this, this, andthis with him? Does that then cross
the line? Does that cross adifferent line? And how does this relate
to like Fanasas and Tintacumbo, whichis Jannie's former two time MVP. Jannis
in Tintacumbo's brother who's terrible at basketballbut is an NBA guy still playing on
(10:45):
the same team as Giannis, andhe gets to play when the Bucks are
either winning by a lot or losingby a lot. But he's terrible and
he set his brother up for success. Like, how do we fault?
Who do we blame for that?I guess this is my thing, like
the nasais Antetokumpo is never going toplay in an important minutes in the NBA,
(11:07):
so it's going to be interesting tosee, like how they handle Brownie
and how far that nepotism goes.If he's starting at point guard in the
playoffs for the Lakers, I'll befloored, floored, I tell you yeah.
If he makes the roster, I'dbe surprised. We got more on
the way five o'clock hour, NewsRadio eleven to ten KFIB
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