July the 4th is Our Independence Day - But is it America's Birthday?

Episode Transcript

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Matt Joe Biden told us it wasn'ta cold that he that that got him.
It wasn't no, he said hewas jetlagged. Oh so who's that?
Who was the first to say itwas a cold? Well? The
White House officials as relayed to KoreanJohn Pierre, Right, But it wasn't

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there like an I don't know,he didn't say anything about a cold,
he said, folks, I'll getI'll get the quote up here, because
I thought that the cold thing camefrom like the doctor at the White House.
Well, I mean, the doctorcan say whatever they want. Here
you go. I got you,I got you, Here you go.
He said that he almost fell asleep. He said, quote, I didn't

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have my best night. I decidedto travel around the world a couple of
times, going through I don't knowhow many time zone. I figured it
was about fifty time zones, sure, in the week couple of weeks before
the debate, and I didn't listento my staff, and I came back
and I fell asleep on stage.And of course this is being said with
a wry smile to people who arealready supporting him. Yeah, and they,

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you know, they laugh, Canyou can you do some math for
me. Okay, how many timezones are there? I don't even know.
There's what is there for in theUnited States and the yeah whatever that
term is not counting Hawaii right right, It's got Pacific Mountain, Central,
and Eastern right and then Hawaii's outthere on Hawaii time. But he didn't
go that way. He went theother way where he went to d Day.

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Yeah, and then he went toItaly, right, Okay, so
he probably it's probably like six orseven time zones, but then he would
have come back, probably and thenhe went back and six or seven more
then he come back, and thatwould have been that it would have been
like if you count all the timezones twice that he would have traveled on,
it's like probably probably like twenty fiveif you counted the same ones twice.

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Yeah, okay, but I haveanother question. Didn't we didn't he
famously for like at least a weekhole up in Camp David preparing for the
debate. Yeah, he was stilljet lagged a week later. You know,
sometimes it drags on. What what? So this is better than the
cold, is it? Though?That's what I'm saying, Like, Oh,

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he said this, so now wefeel better. He said this though,
and then then yeah, now Karein'ssaying both. Now she mentioned the
jet lag and the cold. Hesaid he nearly fell asleep during the debate
because he was jet lagged. Hesaid, that's no excuse, but it's
in an explanation. Ah, Iwasn't very smart. I didn't listen to
my staff and came back and nearlyfell asleep. I decided to travel around

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the world a couple of times,going through around one hundred time zones before
the debate. That's no excuse,but it is an explanation. Again.
He says this with somewhat a wrysmile with a bunch of his supporters at
a Virginia rally last night. Sowe also heard that he struggles with anything
between that's not between the hours often am and four pm. Really,
yeah, that's been reported. Okay, tight window there. But what are

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we doing here? Yeah? Okay, I mean I spent some time on
the cold thing yesterday because I thoughtthat was outlandish, like, of all
the things, of all the thingsto talk about, why you are so
old looking and sounding on stage twofor it to be a cold I thought,
come on, like, you know, and fair enough to you.

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You were like, you know what, you get a cold, you get
some brain fog, you know.Okay, right, obviously there's more at
play than just a cold. Butyeah, if he was struggling from a
cold, and we would have heardabout that before and after, way worse
than we ended up hearing about it. It's just now being kind of offered
the last few days is an explanationfor that. But jet lag a week

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after maybe you know, uh,they're gonna have to keep adding stuff because
neither of these things are help.Okay, So what's next? Like low
T low T brain fog? Youknow that's a part of the symptoms.
Maybe the guy's got low TE youknow, one endorsement deal later and he's
back at it the nugeniks, yeah, that one of them. Choose your

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pick on that one. But youknow, I feel like that's what's next,
eh, I don't know, honestly, he's got to be there's got
to be another good excuse, Likethere's got to be one that we can
think of here, like like,what would mushrooms? He was on mushrooms?
Yeah, oh, look, hedidn't know that they were those kind
of mushrooms. Oh, that wouldexplain some of his answers. I mean,

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I'm not I didn't know that thosewere the kind of mushrooms that I
was being offered before I went onstage, just kind of I needed a
little snack and any snacky snacks,And all of a sudden, he's,
you know, living in Jimmy Hendrickexperience. You imagine, he's like,
you know, it wasn't my bestperformance, but I was kind of tripping
up there. I was. Ithought I was in candy Land. Let

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me tell you. I don't thinkthat's going to help either. I don't
know. Yeah, yeah, I'mtrying not to be a sensationalist here,
and I don't want to give himany ideas. But I don't know,
man, I just I just Ijust want I want the leader of our
country to be able to talk toother leaders of other countries and not need

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a teleprompter. It seems like aseems like a sketchy situation. I mean,
you know, because sometimes you gotto think on your fly, or
or think on the fly. Now, think on your fly. That's something
different. You think he's been doingthat too, Yeah, I think so.
I think that's actually what he's beendoing well that that rules out low
t does it. Oh? Isee what you mean. Haha, you

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got me again. Ah, youdid it again, you got me?
Ah yeah. Two fifteen. Well, if you have a great excuse as
to why you acted like a bumblingidiot one day, I'd like to hear
it. That way, we cangive the president and the administration some more
ideas as to what might have happenedlast Thursday. You can call all in
four h two five five eight eleventen four h two five five eight to

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eleven ten a wild in goofy Wednesday. That feels like a Friday right here
on news radio eleven ten kfab Yeah, Happy Birthday America. Oh wait a

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second, before I get too faraway from that, is it? Is
it really America's birthday? Do we? Is that an incorrect thing for us
to say? Independence Day? Yeah? What would be? Then? Well,
I'll give you a couple of optionsthat I think make way more since
the Independence Day, Okay, likeIndependence Day's we're celebrating obviously, it's literally

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the most important day in the historyof our country. It's when our founding
fathers said, Hey, you knowwhat, maybe we should fight for something
real, not just to fight backagainst these guys and try to come up
with a deal and then like thenus still be a part of whatever the
British empires, because that's what theoriginal plan was. But that wasn't really

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inspiring the troops, inspiring the communitiesto fight back against the British and the
Tories. So they George Washington wasleading the charge from the Continental Army early
in the revolution, said hey,you got to give these guys something bigger
to fight for. We should fightfor our independence. And eventually they said
okay, yeah, and then theydid that. It's crazy, right,
it's insane, go back, it'sinsane. But they had time to think

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about this is America's birthday when Jamestownwas officially settled. Was America's birthday when
the Pilgrims arrived at Plymouth Rock.America's birthday could be any time in there
where these colonies were founded, oryou know a variety of these treaties that

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they had with native peoples, whichI know, I know things happened after
that. We don't need to discussthat today. Or can I give you
my vote for America's birthday? WhenGeorge Washington was officially inaugurated as the first
president of the United States of America, because we aren't really the United States

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of America in the way that weare now until that happens. And that's
you know, like six years afterthe end of the revolution. What day
would that be? I think inMarch twentieth of seventeen eighty nine, No,
it was, it would be seventeeneighty seven, seventeen eighty nine.
It was eighty nine, March twentieth, a little close to Saint Patti's Day.

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Let me, let me just doublecheck that, because it was March
twentieth for most of the first runof presidents before it would be shifted to
January twentieth, you know what Imean. Yeah, was Washington in there?
It is, okay, sorry,April thirty, seventeen eighty nine.
April thirty, okay. And thenthey adjusted the date on that a couple

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presidents later. That's it. Youknow, that's a smooth landing in the
in the continuum of holidays that wecelebrate throughout the year, because you got
Easter at the beginning of April mostof the time, yeah, most of
the time, and then you haveMemorial Day at the end of May.
At the end of May, soat the end of April, not a
bad time for it. It's inspring, Okay. He was barbecue.

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He was officially inaugurated April thirtieth,but the first presidential term started on March
fourth, seventeen eighty nine, whichwas the date set by the Congress of
the Confederation for the beginning of operationsof the federal government under the US Constitution.
So maybe we make the holiday Aprilthirtieth to March fourth, and it's
just like a week long of intensecelebration. I mean April thirtieth to March

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fourth. Yeah, think about whatyou just said. Oh, I'm going
backwards. It is backwards. Isthe term started. He didn't get inaugurated
for another two months. They startedthe president's term on March the fourth,
but didn't inaugurate him as we wouldeventually inaugurate guys, until April thirtieth.
In fact, John Adams was vicepresident and inaugurated as vice president April twenty

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first. He was inaugurated nine daysbefore Washington was. So I don't know.
I liked the April thirtieth ideas asa holiday because of the timing,
and we could celebrate that as abirthday but I think that makes more sense,
is like truly the birth of theUnited States, or even March fourth,

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when his term officially first started,March fourth as the birthday of America
than Independence Day, which is IndependenceDay. Well, we so it's Independence
Day because is that the date thatwe declared independence? It was, but
I feel like that's the day.Yeah, we had to fight at war,
but we declared it. Yeah,but we did it. But we
weren't though, But we were.Here's why we were. Here's why we

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were. We were independent because wetold him we were. And then they
came over and told her we weren't. Told us we weren't, and then
we smacked them back to England.Yeah, that's what happened. Well,
we were already fighting and then wesaid, hey, we should just tell
the troops in all of our peoplewe're fighting for our independence. And that
changed the complexion of the war.In the middle of seventeen seventy six.

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They were already fighting for almost ayear at that point, and then we
declared our independence and it's like,oh, game on, we're the most
powerful army in the world. We'recoming after you. And then guess what
happened? Then we smacked them backto England, but it took us like
another seven years to do that.That's where their teeth are also messed up.
We just smacking them around. Thatwas inappropriate. I'm sorry to all
my stereotype stereotype Matt's using stereotypes.Yeah, I did. Yeah, what

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do you want to do about that? Sonny boy? Sorry to the King
of England or whatever, King Charles? Yeah? Yeah, is it sacrilege
for us to say anything about him? Or Charles and his sausage fingers?
There? How about that? Don'tcome at me on my Independence Day,
England. It's not quite Independence Day, but you can bang fireworks off today,

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so I mean, might as wellbe dang son, go get them
AnyWho? So, so, canwe make that motion like Independence is an
awesome holiday and and it is certainlythe most important day in our nation's history.
But America's Birthday, I think isa little bit of a different conversation.
Got can I make that motion?Can we have two days? Like

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two days like this? Is that? Okay? Help me out with that.
Four h two five five eight eleventen. Four H two five five
eight eleven ten. And again notto not to be too you know,
crass about you know, holidays andwhatnot. We'll talk more about holidays a
little bit later on in the program, but hey, like yeah, and

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then I'm just I'm thinking to myselfout loud, there's an awful lot of
things to chat about. But beforeI do that, it looks like people
are calling in for us today.Pete's online. Pete is on four h
two, five, five, eight, eleven ten, Pete. Let's see
what PS say. Thank you,Pete. What's up? Hey there,
Emory, I think you're wrong.Oh, so fourth of July is the

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true Independence Day unless they're just somethingI don't know, But as far as
I can tell, that the Constitutionis the first time that United States is
referenced. So you're you're right therewith fighting leading up to the sorry enough
to yes, yes, the Constitution. So maybe you could make an argument

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for later on after the article's confederation. But you know, there was fighting
up to the Declaration of Independence,but the Declaration of Independence was the first
time that they said, yes,this is it. We're done. We're
done. We're because before we werejust colonials. There's just a colonial uprising
and that was like to the BritishEmpire, back then, that was nothing.

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That was just a day in thelife of the British Empire, right,
a colonial uprising. So yeah,I would say the Declaration of Independence
dated July fourth, seventy seventy six, that's that's the first time that we
really said that this is it we'redoing. So, Pete, you're saying,
you're saying July fourth should be America'sbirthday. Absolutely, all right,
we got it right, We gotit right the time, right, all

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right, all right, fair enough, fair enough, Pete. All right.
I appreciate you calling in. Thisis is interesting. I appreciate you
listening. Great. Joe's on theline. Hello, Joe, what do
you think about this? I wasjust thinking about this the other day.
You know, to me, theDeclaration of Independence is a declaration of war.

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It's a declaration of war that we'regoing to break away from Britain.
Yeah, right, September seventeenth,seventeen eighty seven. That is the date
that the Constitution is signed, andthat's the foundation that the whole country is
built on, and we're fighting.It's been lamented a few times, but
we're still fighting about that today.So to me, that would be the

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real So Joe, you're going withthe beginning of the Constitution, but the
finalization of it. Okay, okay, so so signed? Okay, so
so. The ratification of the Constitutionwas officially ratified June twenty first, seventeen
eighty eight. But the date effectiveif I if I may March fourth,
seventeen eighty nine, the same dayas the beginning of the first term of

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George Washington as the first president.Can we meet there, Joe, you
and me meet right there at Marchfourth, seventeen eighty nine. No,
to be specific, you're saying thatthat was what that's the date that the
first of the US Constitution. Itbecame effective on March fourth, seventeen eighty
nine. If it became effective thatday, then I will agree with Yeah,

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yeah, all right. Joe gotAlternate America birthday, not Independence Day,
but Alternate America's birthday, March fourth, seventeen eighty nine. Hey,
Joe, appreciate you calling in.Man. If only we could rule,
Oh, if only, thanks Jane. Hey, why don't we make our
like the Emery Songer show calendar andwe can do whatever we want. Who's

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gonna stop us? Yeah, we'llput these holidays on there, and I'm
not going to take off holidays likeJuneteenth and MLK Junior and President's Day and
Valentine's Day and all these other holidays. I'll put them on there too.
But if I'm like I'm gonna makemy own days, I'm want to put
them on the calendar. We've madea lot of holidays so far too.
I know. That's what I'm saying. Hey, March the fourth, let's
go ahead and put that on ourcalendar too. And we're gonna come back

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and then we're gonna play all thesethese patriotic songs again. And people who
didn't hear this show will be like, what in the world are they doing
on March the fourth? Mmmm mmhmm. It's like, well, it's
America's birthday, March. Maybe itcan be a March to independence. Maybe
we can just celebrate for three months, March the fourth to life. Yeah,
and each day can be like aseparate It's fourth, that's four months.

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That's four man, you know,watch April, May, June.
Yeah. I am already on vacationtime right now. I can't do math.
I don't know what day it is. It's okay. We will continue
to not know what day it is, and celebrate America's birthday, and plenty
more. Stick around News Radio eleventen KFA bait Emory's Sunger on News Radio
eleven ten kfab. Hey, it'severy songer here. We're celebrating Independence Day,

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which again we are celebrating heavily thisafternoon because we won't be here tomorrow
or even the day after. Ontop of that, though, the question
about America's Birthday, and a couplepeople email in and said, hey,
hey, hey, leave him independencyalone. I'm just trying to change independency.
I'm just saying, is there anadditional holiday we could add, which
is America's Birthday? And that wasthe investigation. But I got distracted for

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a moment before we get back tothe phones. What did you say the
temperature was in Council Bluffs? Sixtyeight? What's the conditions over there?
My screen says it's foggy and sixtyeight in Council Bluff. Okay, I
can I ask? Can I askhow you're getting that information when the rest
of us around this area is likeeighty two. Upon further investigation, I've

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been had. Oh, of courseyou have. So I want everyone to
know that you can trust everything Isay when the National Weather Service updates their
things, because I read my temperaturesfrom the National Weather Service and they haven't
updated Council Bluffs temperature since seven thirtyfive this morning. That's why I said
it was sixty eight. And thenI looked in their current conditions right now,

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say in slash A for Council Bluffs. Oh, I don't even know.
I don't know what's going on overthere, so no one knows the
temperature in Council Bluff. Yeah,I mean I guess if you're in Council
Bluffs, please let us know thatyou're okay, because there's a chance it's
that maybe god Zilla got a holdof you, and that's why we don't
know what's going on over there.Maybe they succeeded early this morning. Succeeded,

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Yeah, succeeded from what from theUnion maybe on July third, Right,
a bold move, old strategy,Cotton. Let's see if it pays
off for you. Okay, Well, if you're in Council Bluffs, please
let us know if you're okay,and what the temperature is for everyone else?
Uh four oh two, five,five, eight to eleven, ten

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is the number. Dennis is onthe line. Hello, Dennis, welcome
to the show. What it's onyour mind? Hey, how you doing.
I'm good man. What's up?Hey? You got a lot of
people calling in with opinions on whenwe should celebrate our country's birthday. Yeah,
and I'm thinking June sixteenth would beperfect. June sixteenth, Okay,
what about June sixteenth? That's mybirthday? Oh it's his birthday? Is

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your name America? By chance?I think it would be great to have
everybody shooting fire works off on mybirthday. Well, happy related birthday,
Dennis. I'm sorry we didn't haveyou on the show on your birthday.
But you know what, I'll domy best to try to find a very
American thing that maybe happened in theearly days of the country. Try to

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tie it to the sixteenth. Thatway, the fireworks and all the explosions
and stuff, we can move thatto your birthday. How's that? Okay?
That would be awesome. I can'tmake any promises, but I am
a man of the people. Hey, Dennis, appreciate you calling it.
Yeah, you guys have a nightthere, Yeah you too, all right?
He got me there, got methere. I don't know. Yeah,
So Matthew said, this is acelebration of the Declaration of Independence of

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the United States of America is declaredby the Founding Father's July fourth, seventeen
seventy six. I responded to Matthewand said, right, but is it
America's birthday? And he said yes, because the declaration was a statement that
the American colonies were officially free inindependent states. Yeah, I like it.
Maybe I like it because it's bold. It is bold, But were

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we really the United States of America? We were because we said we were,
Yeah, but we weren't states yet. They didn't even they didn't even
come up with the word states untilthey were writing like those documents after the
war was over. They were colonies, and the idea was those colonies were
generally going to be just autonomous bythemselves. It wasn't until the ratification of
the US Constitution that kind of hada federal government that pulled them together.

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Loosely at the time, but theywere pulled together. That's what I'm saying.
That's a whole decade after this,or are you doing a decade ago?
Right? Yeah? How different wasyour life a decade ago? I
see a little bit what you mean, because it's kind of like it's a
lot of difference in the way thatwe were approaching things before and after.
Yeah, like our independence is ourindependence, but is it the birth of
our nation? If you want tomake that argument, it could be literally

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when the first Anglo Saxons landed atJamestown sixteen oh seven, if we're really
going to go that far, likewe could when did we stop paying taxes
to the British? Probably roughly right, I mean we were trying to not
pay taxes on the British before thewar started. I mean, we could
probably go back to like the BostonTea Party if you wanted wanted to do
that again. You guess when theBoston Tea Party was? What year?

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Or yeah? What? Yeah?Oh, I don't want to cause okay,
but here's gonna say seventeen because seventeenseventy five is when we started fighting
the war. Yeah, so seven, like maybe like seventeen seventy three,
it was seventeen seventy three, Okay, how about that December sixteenth, seventeen
seventy three, the Sons of Libertyin Boston protested the t Act which allowed
the East India company to sell teafrom China in the American colonies without paying

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taxes apart from those imposed by thetownshen Acts, the Townshend Acts course.
So yeah, there you go.And then you had the Boston massacre,
which was certainly a major event.Guess when the Boston massacre happened after that,
right, so maybe seventy four orsomething before March fifth, seventeen seventy

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oh, so it was even beforethat. So I mean, this,
this stuff, this stuff happened,and it was going on for some time.
This anger in these battles. Imean, think about this, the
Boston massacre, which in today's dayand age, if the government that was
like running us, if to helpsomething like that happen. We're seven British

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soldiers fired into a crowd of angryBostonians. Five people were killed, six
more were wounded, and basically everybodyin the area was like, Okay,
these guys gotta go. Well,we didn't start fighting these guys in an
all out war for another five years. Lexion in Concord doesn't happen until seventy
five, and that's really the startof the revolution. There's a lot that

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happened for a long time before weeven started this war. So when's America's
birthday? See what I mean?See what I mean? I see what
you mean. Declaring independence doesn't necessarilymean the birth of a nation. I
would say we were trying to beautonomous for a long time before that.
Dale's on the phone line of fourh two, five, five, eight
eleven ten, Dale, what doyou think? Well, when I think
of this, if you compare ourbeloved country as a young child, was

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that young child was it born inin eighteen eighty nine or was it conceived
in seventeen seventy six. Doesn't makeit any difference whether or not that child
was born or or was it stillin the womb waiting to be born.
It was still a child, stilla person, right, And that in

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that way I looked at it asyes, we were, we were conceived.
See, we just weren't born justyet, but we ultimately became,
just like you, al that theybecame who you are now? You were
conceived nine months before you were born. Yeah, right, I guess my

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I guess my question would be howhow many people are celebrating their conception date?
No, it's the birth date,right, so the birth would the
birth date be July fourth, orwould it be March fourth, seventeen eighty
eighty nine, So it wouldn't beseventeen eighty nine. Okay, So you're

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saying your team July fourth. I'vesaid July fourth because that's the day that
everyone decided to put their name onthat piece of paper, and they only
want to put their lives at risk. Were the ones that put, okay,
their money in the box? You'reright, all right, all right,
Dale, compelling argument. The conceptionbirth theory. That's a good one.

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We were conceived, but weren't reallyborn until July the fourth, Dale,
appreciate the call. Thanks for listeningto us. That's a great day
you too. We'll get back tothe phone. So you got thoughts help
us figure out America's birthday. Whywe celebrate Independence Day, which, by
the way, I'm not saying weshould not celebrate. I'm saying this is
a great celebration, and I don'teven think that the birth date of America
is is something that we can celebratewithout. I'm just trying to, you

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know, nail down when that isis the declaration of the birthdate of America.
It's Independent Day. Well, youcan call us four h two five
five eight to eleven ten and we'lldo more of that on the way on
news radio eleven ten, kfab EmrieSunger on news radio eleven ten, kfab.

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Oh, yeah, there we are. It's two fifty one, Little
Tomas Jefferson march for you here onIndependence Day eve. And I'm just asking
a question. Is Independence Day reallyAmerica's birthday or is it just day we
celebrate independence? I would say theindependence of our nation's the most important thing
we can celebrate. But is itreally America's birthday? A little American investigation

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for you, and we're coming upwith a couple of different dates. Larry's
on our phone line at four ohtwo, five five eight eleven ten.
Hello, Larry, what do youthink about this? Well, all this
change in the dates and all andaround and everything. For us people whose
real birthday is the fourth of July, we think you got to just leave
well enough alone and go ahead andcelebrate it on the fourth like we have

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four how many years now, andwe'll be just fine. Larry. I'm
not suggesting we change the holiday.I'm just asking, is is it America's
birthday? Is what would you considerAmerica's birthday. I'm not I'm not suggesting.
I don't want anybody to think,well, that's what it sounds like.
This guy wanted to change it tohis birthday, and and there is

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back and forth and was it?You know? And I'm for us people
whose real birthdays and fourth of Julywe think you gotta just leave. Well,
your birthday is for your birthday's fourthof July. Oh yeah, absolutely
tomorrow your birthdays on Independence Day?Well how about that? You get all
of the Wow wait a second me, No, now, see Larry.
Now, now I have to tellgo back and what was his name?

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Was it? Dennis? Do Ihave to go back and tell you any
different? I have to go tothis and we're trying to do it.
Just leave? Well, yeah,I have to. I have to tell
Dennis now that I can't move itbecause Larry needs it to stay on his
birthday. So so now, canyou tell Dennis for me that we're not
moving it? It's all about me? I mean you know how that goes.
Yeah, of course it is y, But Larry, I appreciate you

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letting us know that way, wedidn't make a colossal mistake there have a
good holiday. Thanks buddy, appreciateyou. Joe's on the line. Hello,
Joe, what do you think aboutthis? Oh? It was designated
as a national holiday in eighteen seventy, became a federal paid holiday in nineteen
thirty eight. Right, so Ithink you're probably just being controversial for the

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stake of being controversial. No showprep, just something stupid. Oh I
no, no, Joe, no, no, no, no, no,
no no. You don't get tosay that. You don't get to
say that without a response. Thisis this is a showprep. Actually,
what's funny, Joe? Is youcalled in because you're interested in the topic.
I'm not saying that we need tochange the holiday. Independence Day is

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the name of the holiday. It'snot called America's birthday. It's called Independence
Day. And Independence Day is whenwe declared independence with the thing called the
Declaration of Independence. My question wasjust I'm not trying to be controversial.
I'm just saying, did America wasAmerica born that day? Or was America
born when we created the system ofgovernment, which we did not create for
another decade. That's kind of myquestion. If you look at eighteen seventy

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and nineteen thirty eight. We reallydon't have a whole lot of history,
do we. Well, I don'tknow what that means, Like, what
does that mean? What is hetalking about? I mean, we were
we America before they as they madeit a national holiday, or we or
we were really a country before nineteenthirty eight when they made it a paid
holiday for federal workers. Well,yeah, I think we were. Joe,

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I'm confused. Is to the attitudeyou brought to this country? The
topic is zooming over his head.Okay, well, well, Joe,
try to have yourself with a niceIndependence Day and try to be less offendied
about things. We'll have more fun, hopefully without people like Joe. On
news radio eleven ten KFAB, we'retalking about Independence Day as a day and
how important Independence Day itself was.We also spent the first hour kind of

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talking about the possibilities that potentially,if you wanted to get real literal,
is Independence Day actually the birthday ofAmerica? And we had like seven or
eight calls of people that have,you know, various opinions, including one
of moving to their birthday or inLarry's cases, birthday already is July fourth,

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And he says don't you dare movefirework. We're not trying to move
fireworks or anything. We're just tryingto see if there's another room on a
calendar for another holiday. That's allwe're saying. Yeah, but yeah,
throwing out just different ideas. Havingsome fun today, and we got the
phones fold up. Let's go aheadand get to Dave. Dave, welcome
to the show today. What's onyour mind? Hey, thanks for taking
my call of your show. Thanks, just what you know? I agree

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with you. July fourth, definitelyIndependence Day, but it is not an
American birthday. Okay, So whatwould you Where would you put America's birthday?
Dave? So I know you mentionedit earlier the day the Constitution went
into effect. That that's what Iwould go with, Okay, Okay,
that would be March fourth, Marchfourth, seventeen eighty nine, two hundred
and thirty five years ago. MarchMarch fourth. To me, nothing else

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is around there on the calendar,Dave. It's kind of a good spot
to have, you know, somesort of you know, another American holiday,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, we could all use
a day off around March fourth.There we go, all right, all
right, yeah, and we don'thave there's not an obvious Hey, we
have taken the day off day thereunless Easter falls on a Sunday in late
March, right, like, there'snot another day in March we get a

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day off. Right, Yeah,that's right, all right, We're on
to something here. I'm about Marchfourth. All right, March fourth sounds
good day. Appreciate you calling inman. Yep, no problem. Joyce
is on the line. Hello,Joyce, welcome to our show today.
What are you thinking about? Well, I am thinking that actually America has
two birthdays. October of fourteen ninetytwo, when the nation itself was discovered,

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and then, of course our independencefrom England on July fourth. I've
actually thought of on July second,if they stayed it for a few days
signed the independent Deparation in seventeen seventysix, ly fourth, So therefore the
birth of the discovery of America.I guess you could call out a first

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day and then the first day ofour independence to become actual independent America.
You know, it's crazy, youthink, Yeah, it's crazy when you
think about how far apart those twoyears are, by the way, like
it's like almost three hundred full yearsbetween those two days. That's crazy.
We haven't even it's we're not evenclose to being three hundred years since the

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declaration of independence. So that's aton of time in there. All right,
Joyce, it is good, goodstuff. Appreciate you calling in.
Thanks. Let's go to Bob.Bob, Hello, Bob, what's on
your mind? Well, as amatter of fact, I've got a trivia
question for you. Oh I lovetrivia. Okay, okay. What is
the most widely celebrated holiday in theworld. Widely celebrated holiday in the world.

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Hopefully this isn't a trick question.I mean I would I would lean
on New Year's Day? New Year'sDay? No, what is it?
Independence from Great Britain? You knownow that you say that, because how
many countries have independence from Great Britain. I mean there's a bunch of them,
aren't there. Oh yeah, wellIndia for starters, South Africa,

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many countries in Africa, Canada,Australia, right, Australia, Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, Britain have apiece of that. Happy Like every
other day of the year, Britain'slike, oh there's another one. Yeah,
celebrated the holiday in the World's That'sa good one there, Bob.

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I appreciate you for being a partof the show today. Bob, thanks
for thanks, thank you. Igot Jim on the line. Hello,
Jim, thank you for calling inand being a part of our show today.
What are you thinking about? Hey, Hey, Amory, thanks for
taking my call. Hey, youknow this whole conversation we're having, I
have to give you a lot ofcredit because you're getting our fellow Americans to
actually talk about our history of thefounding of our country, no matter what

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date you want to come up with, and when's our birthday? I want
to give you credit on that becausewe argue over what our history's all about.
Thanks Jim, I appreciate it,and I'm glad that you called in
because I said the word constitution aboutone hundred times and I was like,
I need Jim to call in andput his stamp on this conversation. So,

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Jim, as somebody who really enjoysnot just the history of America,
but you're a constitutionalist yourself, whatreally would you consider to be America's birthday?
Well, you know, I stickwith the fourth of July. But
let me say something that you hiton and then you went to March fourth,
seventeen eighty nine. But you hiton before you said that. You

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said June twenty first, seventeen eightyeight, right, and people don't realize
we celebrate. And I was,as I've been re educating myself since twenty
ten on our founding documents, thanksto the mentor that I had that did
that at Constitutionalists here in Omh.The point is is that I never realized

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that there's been years that some peopleknowing that June twenty first is actually ratification
day. That was because of whatArticle seven says, it takes nine states
to ratify the Constitution the United States. Now you think about it, Emory,
it's very true that the people atthe Constitutional Convention, they all signed

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the document on September seventeenth, ConstitutionDay, September seventeenth, seventeen eighty seven.
They signed it, descend it tothe state legislatures because it was the
state legislatures by convention are by themselvesthat they were to ratify it. And
once the nine states ratified, Ithink it was New Hampshire who did it

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on June twenty first. Now justthink about September seventeenth to June twenty first.
How many months and days are there? That's nine months and four days.
Well, the birth of our nationcame the same amount of time as
we all know as human beings.The birth of a child. Oh ah,

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that slaps and that is that issomething my mentor was one of the
first things that my mentor taught me. Well, that is the birth of
a child, a birth of anation. So if you really want to
get particular over over the idea ofJuly twenty fourth or July fourth compared to
June twenty, yeah, you couldsay birth of a nation on June twenty

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first, seventeen eighty eight. Ilove it that, I love. I
love what you just said there.And if you wanted to get particular,
it's almost another nine months to theday. That went into effect in the
beginning of March the following year inseventeen eighty nine. So ah, yay,
here you got's say one more thing, do you em? Yeah,
real quick, Jim, when youtalked about the Decoration of Independence being signed,

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and then the states didn't become thecolonies didn't become states until a decade
later. No, they did becomestates automatically because November fifteenth, seventeen seventy
seven is when they actually gave ourfirst constitution. They proposed the first constitution
the articles Confederation on November fifteen,seventeen seventy seven, and in that article

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they do talk about the state.So the reason why I say that it
wasn't ratified until seventeen eighty one.And to be exact, if I'm not
mistaken, and I had it herein front of me a minute ago,
it was a half as half decade, half decade. Well yeah, but

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at seventeen eighty Okay, here yougo. Agreed to Congress on November fifteenth,
seventeen seventy seven, and then forcedafter notification, the last notification by
Maryland on March first, seventeen eightyone, is when it was ratified.
That was our first constitution, seventeeneighty one, all right, thank you,
And we lived with it until weratified in seventeen eighty eight, June

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twenty first. We lived with ituntil our second constitution because the first one
wasn't strong the central government wasn't strongenough. Yeah, so that's why we
did that. Anyway, I'm notgoing to go any further than with that.
I think you've got pre exhus aboutthe birth of our nation nine months
after. Yeah, that was good. That's good stuff. Man. Hey,
I appreciate it, Jim, thanksfor listening to calling in man,

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Thank you, Yeah, thank you. Doug's on the line at four two,
five, five, eight eleven ten. Doug, Welcome to the conversation.
What's going on? Hey, Hey, I'm gonna look at it this
way. When did we say wewere independent from them? Was that not
in seventeen seventy six? Yeah,well, yes, sure, no,
yes, sir, okay, that'swhen our nation was born. It may
not have been we may not havehad a constitution, we either not did

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anything, but we've being ourselves fromBritain and we were our own unity.
Therefore, the birth of our nationis when they signed the depresation of independence.
And why would we put our twohundred anniversary on a coin in nineteen
seventy six. That's a good pointto buy it. You're seventeen seventy six

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tonight. So the government itself seesthat we were a country free from Britain
in seventeen seventy six. That's thebest argument I've actually heard yet for July
fourth being like the true birth ofthe nation, even though I think that
we're talking about, you know,documents in our former governor everything. I'm
just I'm just throwing out there that, hey, you know, like the

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United States, we know it's okaywith me. I'm just telling you that's
the way I look at and Doug, I think I think that's a compelling
argument, and I appreciate that.Thanks for bringing real evidence to the table
for us. We appreciate you callingit. All right, thank you,
sir. Yeah, that's a goodday you too. All right, all
right, So what's the verdict here, Matt? What do you think?
Now? I'm all for adding daysto the calendar, but as far as

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what you've heard as in terms ofthe true evidence that we have at our
fingertips, if you had to naildown a singular day, it's the birth
of this nation, what would itbe? I think in agreeance that adding
more holidays is objectively good for meand objectively good for me as well,

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and I would say objectively good foreveryone, just so we have more things
to celebrate. Yeah, But irregardlessof that, tomorrow is the day that
we declared our independence, We putour flag into ground and say, hey,
we are our own nation. Butwas it March fourth that we decided
March fourth was the day we're goingto add to the calendar, irregardless,

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just because it's the it's the theday birth date of birth date of the
constitutional United States of America. That'stoo it's too wordy. It's too wordy.
That should be Washington Day, forbeing honest, the day he was
inaugurated as well, he was aninaugurated, the day that the US Constitution

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took like became a thing. Yeah, there you go. Not became a
thing, it was it went intoeffect, not that it became a thing
in the September of eighty seven,and then it was ratified and it went
into ratified officially by nine states onJune twenty first the following year, and
then went into effect March fourth ofthe following year after that. Anyway,

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American history, this is what welove. This is why we talk about
it and we have used I thinkIndependence Day is a great lightning rod for
this conversation and for those who activelyparticipated. We salute you. More on
the way on news Radio eleven tenKFAB. Emery Sungner on news Radio eleven
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Paris Olympics. We are News Radioeleven ten KFA be an iHeartRadio station.
Hey, everybody, Sunger here withyou. Hey. This song this is
John Philipsus's masterpiece as far as I'mconcerned, starts and stripes forever. And

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I mean I could play this thingover and over again on repeat. In
fact, do you want to knowsomething there, Matt? I had one
of these things. I can't rememberwhat it was called. It was like
I loved CDs that had like historyand like they were like encyclopedias on a
CD, like a disc to throwinto your computer in like the late nineties,

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and I would look through them andI'd see like I'd be like,
oh yeah, nice, and thenI'd just go through and just explore some
of the things that they had,and like this one. What the CD
that I had had like some interactivestuff on it, including like the video
and the radio of the hint Edinburghexplosion. Have you heard that before?

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Yeah? That was the Humanity?Oh yeah, I mean that that's some
compelling stuff right there. Right footageof that is oh yeah, just crazy
stuff. But anyway, the notjust that but there was one that talked
about John Phillips Susan and you couldhave like, like this song would play

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while you're reading it, and I'dbe like, I just there's something about
this song. It's just awesome.Listen it is. Oh there it is?

(43:46):
Yeah, a little people of action. Yeah, And I don't know
about you, I just like,I love stuff like this. So it
got me in the mood. I'dlearned a lot about like stuff like that
on that CV, but it gotme really interested in music, and I
eventually became a percussionist in you know, the Marching Band and all that stuff.

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Cool, and I would, Iwould think, in part to some
of this great music, right,I wanted to play music like this.
Oh this would be fun to playas a drummer. Oh yeah, you
know. And how often do wejust let songs play here? I mean,

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let's be honest, I'm talking overit. So hopefully the Susan family
didn't assume me, right, Buthere here's here's the part. Here you
go, Oh yeah, America,I mean you could headbang to this for
all my metal fans. July fourth, Nothing says America quite like this.

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Yeah, yes, yes, thereit is. We just played that entire
song John Phillips SUSA, may youRest in Peace? What an American?

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Yeah, what an American tune?Anyway. Yeah, So right on that
front, we're gonna be chatting withMark Champion, who's with the Omaha Symphony.
They got some big things going on. Yeah, the an old July
fourth stuff pretty cool, I tellyou what. There's a lot of fun

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things that are going on this particularfourth of July. I'm excited to talk
to you about this. And there'sso much going on in American history,
and is this another is the same? Larry different, Larry different, Larry
Man. We got all sorts ofLarry's Larry, welcome to the show.
You're on the phone line with us. What's going on anyway? Conspiracy theory?

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I'd like to have somebody way inon that. In eighteen seventy one,
we somehow became a corporation under theglobalists to control, and therefore we
lost our constitutional republic. When wasthis Sometime in eighteen seventy one, the

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global financiers and power brokers somehow gotcontrol and we were changed to a corporation
government. Wow. Interesting, Iwill look into this. Eighteen thirty one
you're saying, I appreciate Larry doesthat well. I mean, I don't

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think anybody's told told most of usthat our current government thinks for a democracy
that's going back aways for that one. So the globalists have been in power
for one hundred and sixty years ifmy math checks out, one hundred and
fifty three, Okay, generation upongeneration of globalists, you know, one
hundred and fifty three years from hereto there. It's about the same amount

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of time as the Plymouth Rock Pilgrimslanding in Massachusetts and all of the angst
with the Boston massacre. The sameamount of time one hundred fifty three years.
Does that put any context into whatwe're talking about here? It took
that long. But No, seventeenseventy three was the Boston Tea Party,
not the Boston Massacre. Sorry,it was one hundred and fifty three years

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from Plymouth Rock to like the landingof Plymouth Rock and the Pilgrims, one
hundred and fifty three years later wasthe Boston Tea Party. It's the same
amount of time from now back toeighteen seventy one. I would just like
to suggest that if you are ableto successfully run a shadow government for one
hundred and fifty three years that runsthe entire world. Yeah, for one

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hundred and fifty three years, andnobody's the wiser. Good on you.
You know what, it's a prettygood job. You've been doing a bang
up job. That's a pretty goodjob. Grats to you and all of
your success. Hopefully nobody calls inangry about that. It's three twenty eight.
We're going to talk Omaha Symphony andhow they're celebrating the Independence Day holiday
next on news radio eleven ten kfab. Emory's songer share It with Someone You

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Love on news radio eleven ten kfab