Biden's doctors weigh-in. Dems evaluate the prez's future.

Episode Transcript

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Hey, did you know that onthis day? Back in two thousand and

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six, zenidin Za Don finished uphis illustrious playing career for France in the
final of the World Cup by headbudding a gay. I remember that,
and uh, yeah, it's toobad, because don't you think that's probably
what most people remember him for.Yeah, even though he's quite literally one
of the great great players ever toplay the game. Yeah. Yeah,

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that's that's how you don't go out. Yeah, which, by the way,
the European Championships in my finals juststarted between France, his home nation,
and Spain, so I should getthat on a screen over there.
Let's see get that. You haveFrance, I have France. I have
France. You have France. Youdon't have Spain. I have the other

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two. Oh you're gonna have oneof the final no matter what. Right,
Oh, well, that's exciting.So kind of rooting for I mean,
don't you kind of got it?I feel like I got to root
for France for the best outcome oneof my teams against yours. Yeah.
Maybe I kind of want Spain towin because I'm going to Spain in September
and that'd be cool anyway. Sothat's going on. Just try to start
light because well, I tell youwhat, I tell you what it's We're

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sitting here, and yesterday we talkeda lot about the trying to get the
channel here try eight eight, thenumber eight. Here we go, all
right, that one? Oh thereit is? Yeah, sorry everybody,
sorry, I had to hear thatbehind the scenes stuff. Oh France already
scored. There you go. Howabout that? All right, so there

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you go. By the way,they hadn't scored a goal in the run
of play by themselves this entire tournament. So if that's the first time,
good timing. Anyway, the conversationabout Joe Biden yesterday was all very focused
on him saying I'm in the raceand I'm staying in the race. Well,

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last night there was a second letterthat was dropped, a second letter,
which, by the way, whyletters? What happened to just you
know, going on video or talkingto us like we're humans? Ah,
right, you don't want to riskthat. Well, more information was released
here by Kevin O'Connor, the physicianof the White House. We did have

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a caller yesterday said hey, weneed to look into Kevin O'Connor because we
were hearing about this other doctor whosename is also Kevin by the way,
okay, Kevin Canardard Canard is thedoctor who specializes in Parkinson's disease and other
movement disorders. Well in this letter, it was written and released by Kevin

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O'Connor, the regular day to dayphysician for the president, and the whole
thing was very much of a playon Hey, look, I know a
bunch of people saw that he hadtalked to this Parkinson's physician or a Parkinson's
specialist or movement disease specialist, andthen a bunch of people had questions about

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that. In the oppressor with KJPwho we were watching it live yesterday,
and she basically just kept deferring andsaying, Hey, I'm not that is
private information. I am not goingto tell you which doctor is being is
seeing the president, and I'm nottelling you what the doctor says because it's
not my job. Last thing youwant to do is get on hip as

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bad side. Yeah, think aboutthat, right, Like what person in
the world, regardless of where they'reat, you know, like it's kind
of private information, I think,except when you're talking about a legitimate world
leader, or if you are theconstituent of somebody else, you know what
the what's the story that they wouldfollow up with that? Then? Huh
you know what I mean, LikeI need to know my elected officials health.

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I think that's fair. Yeah,Okay, so the letter comes out
because of all the questions, KevinO'Connor in the letter says he's gotten the
good word from Kevin Cannard and thePresident that he can release more information about
these visits. Well, doctor Canardwas chosen for Biden's annual physicals not because
he's a movement or movement disorder specialist. And this is a quote from O'Connor's

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letter, not because he is amovement disorder specialist, but because he is
a highly trained and highly regarded neurologisthere at Walter Read and across the military
health system, with the very wideexpertise, which makes him flexible to see
a variety of patients and problems.Okay, of course KJP today had to
double check and make sure that shecovered her own behind here because that was

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my first thought too, is likeif you're Karine John Pierre, it's like,
oh, thanks, thanks for youknow, like saying actually we can
tell you all this information after Ispent all of the entire time going out
of my way to tell you thatI couldn't tell you all this information.
Well, she said today in herbriefing just a few minutes ago, a
lot of what is in the letterwas said at the briefing. To be

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very very clear, I said,many of the things that were laid out
in the letter actually repeated right herebehind this lectern, at this podium yesterday.
It was not. It was not, For whatever that's worth, it
was not. Okay, come on, I hate this. I hate that.
I hate gaslighting. I don't wantto use that we're a bunch,
but is this not what gaslighting is? Where we're basically being told something that

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we're not seeing with our eyes orhearing with their ears. Hey, rewriting
history right in front of people andexpecting them just to buy it. And
this leads me to my next point. Okay, so this letter comes out,
and again I want to be assensitive as possible about this, because
if this was an elderly person inmy family, I want to make sure
that we have as much clarity onthis, But also the will of that

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person is being thought of here,right, like if they want more people
to know that they're dealing with healthissue X. They can tell us that
it's okay to let people know orwho to tell if they don't want that
to be out there. I don'twant to tell people like you're trusted with
some really sensitive information there. Ijust think it's a little bit different when
you're talking about an elected official orleader that we already have a lot of

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questions about his health. So again, to reiterate, they say, nothing
to see here, this is aregular doctor. But the New York Post
also came out and said, thisis a doctor that has seen Joe Biden
eight times in the last eight months. Matt case, you are a part
time ten percent mathematician eight times ineight months. How frequently is that?
It's about once a month, oncea month over the last eight months.

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Are you seeing a physician once amonth over the last eight months. Nope.
I try to make it once ayear. I think everybody at least
needs to do once a year.I think that's like minimum. Yeah,
but it's not his regular physician.I have to remind you this is specifically
a guy who was a well regardedneurologist. The New York Posts shared that
the White House has not commented onthe frequency of the visits by doctor Kevin

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Kinnard. So again we have totalk about this in the way of what
do we do with this information?And how much of this is just the
pride of a man who doesn't wantto be told that he's washed up?
And that's a really crass way tosay this, But how often have we
as humans in our society had totalk to somebody who is elderly and say,

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Hey, you shouldn't be getting behindthe wheel of your vehicle anymore.
Hey, we really should get youinto a home that can better assist you
for your needs. Hey, maybeit's not the best idea for you to
be driving the writer riding lawnmower,you know what I mean? Yeah,
sorry, I don't think it's agreat idea for you to work on this
car anymore. We're afraid that,you know, something might happen while you're

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doing that. Have you had conversationslike that? How often did it go
well? How easily did that personjust get out of the way and decide
you know what? Yep, eventhough this kind of takes away a lot
of the dignity that I still hadyou're right. I'm wait, I'm getting
in the way, you know whatI mean? Not something that I think
happens with a lot of success,no matter who we're talking about. Toss

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in a family, which I amguessing Jill Hunter the rest of the gang,
who's not going to be easily pushinghim that direction either, if you're
thinking about it from their perspective.Hey, he's the president of the United
States. This is the most famepower that we'll ever have. We need
to capitalize on this, and thismakes us look really bad if the reason
we have to leave is because ourdad got old, my husband got old.

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Well, if you've got thoughts onthis from this angle, from the
health angle, not necessarily him wantingto stay in, but the health angle,
or your personal experience with trying totell or talk to an elderly family
member or someone close to you thatmaybe their physical attributes to their mental acumen
is it where it needs to befor them to do things that they like

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to do. I'd love to hearfrom you. Four h two five five
eight eleven ten. Four h twofive five eight eleven ten. We'll have
more on the way on news radioeleven ten KFAB Emery Sunger on news Radio
eleven ten kfab a lot of doctorsituations now that they've been forced to speak,
just adds yet another layer to whatwe spoke about for hours yesterday.

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Stands on our phone line at fouroh two, five, five, eight
to eleven ten, Stan, whatdo you think about all this? You
know, I think eventually we're allgoing to be there one day. But
the big issue is we need tokeep Joe Biden in as a conservative party.
If you if you look at whatVegas posted this morning, as far

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as odds, they have Trump asa favorite over Biden eight to one and
only four to one over Kamala.So I think that's something where we definitely
need to keep act and scared aboutJoe Biden because he's definitely a two to
one dog against Kamalada to actually lose. So yeah, so that's the thing.

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Stan. It's interesting how the narrativekind of changed, because again,
I think a lot of people getblinded by their hate for a candidate.
Because sure, I thought I thoughtthe whole time, you know, like
it's about winning, right, Likeyou can't do anything with any kind of
a into unless you win the races, and what the Democrats are getting upset
about is not just that he wouldpotentially be a loser here, but also

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the fact that he very well maycost some of them their seats because it
makes the Democratic Party look like they'recompletely unorganized, you know what I'm saying.
So him being up top could couldnot just lose that race, it
could lose the Democrats a bunch ofseats. Absolutely, and we need to
we need to act scared. Weneed to not help fort Biden out,
you know, hopefully keep them in. It's all part of the games.

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Dan appreciate the call. Thank you. Kay is on our phone line at
four h two five five, eighteleven ten. Hello, Okay, what's
on your mind? Yeah, youknow, I just want to make a
comment that one does not see aspecialist, especially when they already have a
primary care physician just for primary care. It just doesn't happen. So there's
clearly I feel like the level ofdeception coming out of the White House is

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absurd, and they think we're theAmerican public is a bunch of idiots,
and it's just frustrating. Calls tofade. Clearly there's some issues there.
Yeah, he's obviously in treatment forsomething. I have my theories of what
it is, but I mean,he's what do you think it is?
Okay, if you don't mind measking. I believe that even before he

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got in office, before January sixth, the Opimus day that you'll live in
infamy, that before that time,he had a stroke and he is suffering
from stroke dementia, and it's clearlyit's progressing and it's slowly robbing him and
it's unfortunate seeing many people go throughoutmyself. So you know he's seen a

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specialist for what I think is strokedementia or the progression of stroke. Wow,
that he I think he had astroke prior to him taking office.
So so kay, have you hadany you talked about like experiences that you've
had seeing this kind of happen withother people? So would you think that

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it's alarming that we're not being toldthe truth or do you think it's more
alarming that we know he's been seeinga specifically a neurologist type doctor with some
frequency. I think what's alarming isthat he has some mental diminished capacity and
continues to hold the chief office ofour United States of America. That's what's

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alarming. And also what's alarming ishe clearly is not pulling the strings,
and so who is And that's whatI think. Yeah, but that's the
thing, Okay, if that's ifit's a Democratic Party, they're obviously not
all on the same page on this. Do you think it's Jill? Do
you really think it's Jill? DoI really think it's Jill? I think
I do believe there's something with Jilland Hunter Biden involved with this. I'm

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not exactly sure what it is,but there's something there there. And I
also believe the Democratic Party does notwant to lose the stronghold they have on
the presence to see right now.So yeah, I think that you're right.
I do. I do think thatsome are just it's so obvious that
there's something going wrong that some ofthem are having to cough it up now

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and say, are all right,Yes, there's something going on. He
shouldn't be in office anymore. Veryinteresting. Hey, Kay, I really
appreciate you calling in, Thanks forlistening. Thank you, buddy. Quickly,
let's go to Todd. Tod,appreciate you calling in. What's on
your mind? Good afternoon. I'mgoing to take a little different twist My
father was involved in local politics inthe county in Nebraska. He was on

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the board of supervisors for sixteen years, I believe, from the age of
sixty four when he retired, untilhe was eighty and was handily reelected.
You know, every four years.Comes home one day and says to my
mother, I think I'm going torun again. And she looked at him
and said, I don't think youshould. You're slipping a little bit.

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Get out now while you still havea great reputation, people will honored,
you know, the service that youput forth. It's time for somebody else.
And ever since this came out aboutBiden, that event has been on
my brain. And you know,the the lady before me talking about Jill,
my mother's name was not Jill,but I wish Jill Biden would do

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the same thing for her husband withthe betterment of our entire country. Okay,
so your dad did though take heradvice? Oh yeah, yeah,
he took the advice. And Ithink he lived till he was ninety one
years old, and I think thelast eleven years of his life he had
great appreciation for the advice that mymother gave him and that he took Wow,
that's very no doubt about it,no doubt about it, Todd.

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I appreciate that. Thanks for sharingyour personal story with us today. You
bet I have a great Yep,you too, Doug, Maryan, everybody
else calling in. We'll talk toyou as we continue this conversation. Your
perspective, your personal stories of elderlypeople, trying to talk them into you
know, like the idea that maybethey're not the same as they once were,

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and how we feel about now thedaily physician for you know, the
regular physician for Joe Biden, talkingabout his appointment and potentially regular appointments here
monthly, potentially with a neurology thatspecializes in Parkinson diseases and other movement disorders.
Please call in four h two,five, five, eight, eleven
ten News Radio eleven ten kfab EmerySunger on News Radio eleven ten kfab.

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Okay, Now, while we seehere, we're talking about what's going on
with the president and of course withthe physician, his regular physician writing a
letter to us, the American people, and the press last night saying basically,
yes, he saw a guy whowas renowned for his great work in

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neurology, but he just saw himas part of a regular physical exam.
Nothing to see here. We'll getback to the phones. I did have
an email saying from a person whocertainly want Don Don Sorry, Don Don,
says, the neurologist has been seen, has seen President Biden once a

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year in connection with his annual physicalThe other eight visits were not to Biden.
About a thousand members of the militaryare assigned to the White House.
They could be to account for anyof the other eight visits. I wanted
to read that because there's a chancethat that's true. But wouldn't you think
at some point we're just going tohear the truth. And again, here's
another angle to think about. Evenif they tell the truth, would we

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believe it. We're a very cynicalpeople at this point. If they come
back at us and tell us anythingother than the fact that, okay,
here's all of his records and thenwe don't see anything related to Alzheimer's or
dementia or stroke or Parkinson's or anythinglike that, then are we going to
just say, nah, nah,that can't be true. So we have
a lack of transparency and a lackof trust with whatever we would be told
anyway, it's really just the worstof every possible angle. Well, we

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want your perspective on this, notjust on the president, but also your
own personal stories that you might havewith family members or people close to you
that when they got to a certainage or a certain mental capacity or physical
capacity, that you had to kindof help them understand that they probably need
to take a step back from whateverthey are doing in their career or whatever

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they enjoyed doing that could be they'renot able to do it at the same
level or safely anymore. Doug ison the phone. Let me have a
couple of dougs. Doug number one. Appreciate you for calling in, Doug,
what's on your mind? Thank youtaking my call. Marie. I've
recalled it years ago when my grandfatherwas in a care facility. I would
go to see him, and Iusually go in the morning early afternoon because

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he was better at that time andhe had to bencheck. But he could
remember things that happened fifty years ago, but things that happened like a day
ago. Could recall it all back, even hour he might forget. But
the point of the story is whyI used to see him as a lady
in the hall. We'll call herMarge. You see her every day.
Very nice lady, actually walked around, talked very well, pretty cognitive,

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in charge and stuff. Had agood conversation. Well, one day I
came in the evenings to my grandfather, so I'm large in the hallway.
She was totally off the wall,I mean just crazy, I mean,
couldn't function, could probably ask aquestion, know who I was. And
so later as that passed nurse's station, I asked the galleys and what's wrong
with marsh And I says, well, she has sundowners is what's that?
Well, she's fine during the day, but as provoss evening she exhibits really

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severe sentences of dementia and she doesn'tknow she's out of what she did.
But again when the sun rises,she seems to kind of revert back to
normal. So I have wonders sometimesabout our president. Perhaps she's not suffering
from this and not being told tous. Last point good. I think
it's interesting that we were told duringCOVID we had to de clear our state
of imanization to everybody that was notprivate. But yet the president can say,

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no, you can't know about mymedica vision. You do not have
nuclear cos in my pocket, butyou're not allowed to know that in this
hippop. Yeah. Well okay,so a lot to unpack there, Doug.
I appreciate you calling, and I'lltry to get to everything as you
said it. Okay, okay,thanks emy, Yeah, thank you.
Okay. So first the Sundowners thing, they did say that Joe Biden does

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operate in most between ten am andfour pm. Now, I don't know
if that's specifically related to something likeSundowners. I do think probably the window
of top peak cognitive function for allof us kind of fall between some window.
I know I'm not nearly as functionalat midnight as I am at you
know, eleven am. You knowthat kind of thing, right, But

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it's a small window. I thinkthat there is something to be said,
probably for the fact that the window'snot getting any longer. It's just going
to continue to shorten on him.Now what he said about the COVID vaccine
and the way that we were basicallytold, hey, if you get the
vaccination, which I got, carrythat thing around because you're going to need

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to prove that you have that ifyou're going in different spots around town,
different states, have different rules kindof have to like there has to be
some level of proof that you canget into that country. I don't know
what the accuracy is of that,you know, I just read these things
like on read it as I'm preparingfor my you know, European vacation.
I've never gone to Europe before,but we all had You had to have

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that, you had to have it, and it had to be the exact
kind of thing. It couldn't bea counterfeit. The same way as you
know, we were working our wayback to normal. Yet as the leader
of the free world, he it'simpossible for us to ask him, or
it's not right for us to askhim or the White House the legitimacy of
his condition on a number of fronts. I do think there's quite a bit
of hypocrisy to that, but againpolitics, politics and hypocrisy kind of just

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go hand to hand at this point. Let's be honest. Second, Doug,
Doug number two, thank you somuch for listening to our show today.
What are you thinking about? Oh, thanks for taking my call.
Hemory, I was just every timeI see him, it just reminds me
of my father in law when hepassed away. Watching his decline. I
mean the shuffle and his feet,the you know, talking about people that
have been gone for a long time, The way he stands with his hands,

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you know, kind of rigid andstares off into space. I mean,
he is about the Russia thing.It's just more bs and they just
they've never ever given us a reasonto truly believe what they say because it's
always different, you know, andalways changes. And then they treat us

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like we're idiots because we don't believethem. Well, I mean, they're
not very believable. I mean,honestly, to me, the real question
as far as the cognitive test goesis I think we should give it to
all the people that think voting forhim is a good idea. Well,
I mean, yeah, well,my life's a train wreck because of this
guy. Well, I say again, there's a lot there, Doug.

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I think the overarching point is it'sabout the politics, not necessarily the person.
Even though they have been preaching aboutvoting for the better person and not
the politics, right, they careabout the kind of person that they're voting
for. And now that we canpoke holes in the fact that we don't
even know if this person knows wherehe is. They're still like, well,
it's really more the politics and theperson. It's just like that's a
completely opposite thing, right. Youtalk about not being able to trust what

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they say, and we're idiots fornot trusting what they say. I think
that goes on both sides. Likeif the Republicans were coming out with any
kind of information, everybody who's nota Republican it's just going to be really
skeptical about the honesty and the truthof that too. We're just in a
very cynical time in the history ofthe world with this social media that you

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could basically find any corner of theworld that you want to be in and
find people that believe the same thingyou do. Talk enough about it,
it seems like it's legitimate. Andwe still aren't getting any transparency from the
people that actually have all the information. We're just left to guess at this
stuff. It really isn't healthy,not legitimately healthy. It's not healthy for
our country to be not just havinga leader that we don't know what his

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ailments potentially are, but also thefact that we just we wouldn't even believe
what they sent us, even ifthey gave us all the information, we
would be very skeptical of the honestyand the truths that are coming out of
that as well, Like what wouldhave to be in that thing for us
to believe that it's the actual truth. Well, it's just such a stark
contrast of reality as far as howyou know my life is now and it

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was under Trump? I mean,take the candidates completely out of the picture
and just look at quality of lifeand cost some materials and yeah, and
no crime and everything else. Doespeople ignore all? I know? And
that's the thing. Doug, Trump'sbest friend would just be a point to
that stuff. I'm not sure they'regoing to be able to do that effectively,

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which is what scares me because it'sbasically just both sides, like you
don't want to vote for that guyhe'll do this, Well, you don't
want to vote for that guy becausehe'll do that. And it's not about
like, hey, how is yourlife in twenty eighteen versus how's your life
now? Kind of thing. Iappreciate the call, Doug. I got
I gotta I gotta move along,Doug. I appreciate the call, though,
Man, Yeah, we'll get tomore calls here momentarily, if you
want to call in with your story. Four oh two five five eight eleven

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ten four oh two, five fiveeight eleven ten News Radio eleven ten kf
Emery Sunger on news Radio eleven kfab. Eric's on the phone line, Eric,
thanks for calling in. What areyou thinking about? Yeah, I
just want to change my comment andyell at Matt. I'm just kidding.
Come on, I was allow,Yeah, preemptive yelling at Matt for the

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bad draft starting in one hour.I like it. No, I just
had a quick comment about you know, as far as our trust in the
media, I think your show,especially in comparison to your predecessors, you're
really direct and to the point.I think sometimes you pull out of the
woodwork some either never trumpers or maybepeople from the left that call in.

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And you know, we've all heardit in recent days, but really the
left is stuck now, and they'restuck in you know, a cycle of
cognitive dissonance. You know, they'reforced right now to contradict themselves post debate.
So every leftist media outlet went onthe attack, the assumption that they
would be able to push Biden outof this race, about having any forethought

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that that's not really how it works. You know, if you want to
invoke the twenty fifth Amendment, thenagain they're stuck in a cycle of cognitive
dissonance and forced to admit that hewas not capable of the first four years.
Now, with that said, weknow they're stuck, and his decline
is so apparent with everybody. It'sbeen admitted by the left now, even

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though they're walking it back, thereis no way that they could do anything
but give a firm diagnosis of Parkins'sdementia. Whatever it may be, everybody
knows it to be true. SoI think that's just a non issue.
I think the left is in areally, really bad spot. There's no
doubt about that, Eric, Andit's interesting to see how the different directions

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they're all kind of running with thisinformation, because there's a growing list of
Democrats that are in Congress that aresaying, I'm not sure him running is
a good idea for us. Thereare a growing list of networks that are
kind of jumping off the Biden bandwagonthemselves, like you said, because they
thought they could help kind of pushhim to the to the side and have
somebody really take Trump on in amore in a way of strength instead of

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the guy who just was already there. It's going to be interesting to see
how the narrative changes if we getsome permanent ideas of exactly what's going to
happen. And I think a lotof that starts a month from now when
we start preparing for the Democratic NationalConvention and this all kind of becomes in
concrete and literally it's just like,hey, it's going to be Biden,
or Biden's going to step aside andit's going to be Kamala one way or

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another. So or Trump just winsin November and that's the end. So
you know, we'll we'll have tosee what it's going to be like.
But Eric, I appreciate you callingin with your thoughts on this today.
Thank you. Yeah, And there'sno doubt to me on a number of
levels that if you're thinking about thisfrom that angle of where the media is
taking them, the first thing thatyou have to think about from a media

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perspective is what is going to drivemy ratings? And even if it is
a negative thing against a Democratic candidate, it does I think behoove them.
The cen ends the MSNBC's of theworld to throw these narratives out there because
it stirs the pot properly, evenamongst their own supporters. It will be

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really interesting if that happens and continuesto happen, if we get even more
concrete evidence that he's not going tobe going anywhere and you're just kind of
stuck with him, do they rerally behind him and do they have enough
time to repair that image before September'sscheduled second debate. Who knows that that's

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actually going to happen now and thenthe election in November. We'll keep talking
about this if you want to keeptalking about it. Four oh two five
five eight eleven ten. It's thenumber. Four oh two five five eight
eleven ten. Emory Songer with youon news Radio eleven ten. KFAB all
right, so we're going to continuethis conversation though with about Joe Biden and
the health situation. Matt Case ismy producer. By the way, if

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you call and you hear a voice, it's his ninety five percent of the
time. Sometimes I'd grab a callor two. Matt, what do you
think would like from your perspective?I just want to like, what would
help solve the crisis at hand fromthe administration. Is there something they could

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do to quell as many nerves aspossibly? I don't think there's any possible
thing that they can do to geteverybody on board with what they're talking about.
But how can they get people intheir own party or maybe some of
their critics to be like, havean acceptable reaction to this entire fiasco?

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Well, I saw this, soI can't take credit for it, but
I certainly agree with it. Allof this, or at least most of
this, could be resolved by thesitting president of the United States just having
a press conference, going in frontof the media and answering questions for a

(29:12):
decent amount of time. Questions thathe's not prepared for. Questions you mean,
questions that he's not given them toask him, right, no teleprompters
in sight. Just stand out thereand talk to the people without you know,
a pre recording and interview where heknows the questions and what's coming a

(29:33):
teleprompter. Just just do that,say hey, everything's fine and here's proof.
But instead we get a letter,like you mentioned, a letter,
a letter from a letter from himyesterday morning saying I'm not going anywhere,
and then a separate letter from hisphysician right yesterday evening. How interesting that
he uses a letter. Do youthink that if I sent you a letter

(29:55):
if okay, if you saw meone day you were like, Matt looks
like he carried last night into thismorning and came to work with it.
You know what I mean. Iwould never do that. But let's say
that in this circumstance, I was, you know, a couple of beers
too many deep, and I cameinto work like that, a little disheveled,

(30:17):
And to prove to you that Iwas fine, I sent you a
letter, right Like, wouldn't itbe more effective if I came into your
into your office within you know,smell distance, and looked you right in
the eye and said, Emory,and I could just ask you questions,
right and we can have a conversation. But you know what I mean,

(30:37):
That's what I'm saying, Like,like one, do the thing to prove
to us that you are what yousay you are. It's it's not complicated
one hundred percent of the time.That's the better way to handle it.
But what it's the likelihood of thembeing able to trust him for doing this.
No teleprompter, no note, cards. He's done that like once the
last few years, and we sawit for ninety minutes the other night,

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and nobody wonders why Now you know, it's pretty obvious. So what does
that mean? Though? Like isthere no coming back? Essentially if they're
like, well, we can't dothat, And again, how about like
hippa and all that stuff? Canthey rely on that? It's hard to
when John McCain what fifteen sixteen yearsago, John McCain basically gave over over

(31:23):
a thousand pages of his medical recordsand said, hey, look him over.
That's there was a man without somethingto hide, right, he said,
Oh, there's all this stuff outthere that's not true about me.
Quickest way to disprove that is byspreading the truth as loudly and as far
as you can. So yeah,I mean the result, like, I
just feel like in politics you losea lot of the privacies that you'd otherwise

(31:48):
like to enjoy. And again,I'm not trying to be ultra cynical here,
but you can't help but to thinkeven if they came out with a
thousand pages of his medical records,would it be enough because of what we're
already seeing, what would have tobe in those records for us to be
like, Okay, yeah, I'msatisfied that that's the truth, because even

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then you'd be like, Okay,see, he's not fit for office.
So it's either that or they comeout with all of his medical records and
nothing of note is there except himbeing an old guy, and then we're
like, ah, that's not true. There's no way that's true. There's
no winning here. Yeah, there'sjust no way to win unless, like

(32:35):
you said, if he's able tohave an impromptu pressor I would take even
thirty minutes like taking questions from peoplebecause the press want to get that sound
bite, they want to get thetruth. But then if you just please
the Fifth Amendment over and over again, that doesn't tell us anything. We're
right back where we started. Idon't know a lot of what I think

(32:55):
The issue here is, more sothan anything else, is we just can't
trust the opposite side. If youare a Democrat, you are going to
listen to what they say and havea very different opinion about it, even
if you think that he's not capableor fit to lead, and you want
to go somewhere else with the nominee, which again, he would need to

(33:16):
sign off on that's one thing,but you still would take what they say
very differently than somebody who's an opponent, somebody who is a Republican or even
an independent voter. At this pointwhere you're just kind of saying, you
know, I don't think that's onthe level. I don't think we're being
told the whole truth here. Soas far as this current state goes of

(33:44):
this story, Kevin O'Connor, thedaily physician of Joe Biden, he can
send as many letters as he wantsuntil we see what his medical records are
or the ailments or the medications thathe's taking. It's not even going to
move the conversation one way or theother about him. And number two,

(34:05):
even if he did do that,what is there to be gained, because
there's gonna if they they either aregoing to have information that we're going to
find to be the truth or acceptis the truth, and then we'll say
he's not fit for office, orthey keep saying no, he doesn't have
any of this going on, andwe're gonna say this isn't a sham and
it's a lie, and they're nottelling us the whole truth, there's no

(34:27):
back and forth. Now the otherangle that I've been thinking about today and
I'd love to share. I'd liketo have you share this with us,
your experience with elderly people, includingfamily members, having to tell an elderly
person whether or not they could,like could they drive if they were still
driving at age eighty. At somepoint you were just like, look,

(34:51):
you were all over the road there, I can't. I don't feel great
in the passenger seat. I fearfor your safety if you're driving by yourself,
I think we need to take thekeys from you, telling somebody who
is you know at work? Hey, you're not as sharp as he used
to be. You know, you'reeighty five. You're operating a forklift.
Probably not a good idea. Youcan't be lifting this heavy stuff anymore.

(35:14):
You're not the same like for youknow, play by play broadcaster, right,
there are some guys that lost theirfastball. I mean Dick Stockton.
You remember Dick Stockton. He didso many big events for a few decades
as a sports broadcaster for CBS andFox and Turner. And you want to
know what ended up happening is hebasically lost his eyesight in the last couple

(35:37):
of years he was calling even basketballgames, and he's sitting courtside. He
is an iconic voice in iconic wayof calling games. But nobody was like,
hey, sorry, Dick, Idon't think it's a good idea for
you to be calling these games anymore. You can't really see what's going on.
Nobody said that to him, andhe didn't want to leave. There's

(36:00):
a lack of dignity that is shownto a lot of elderly people in the
way that those conversations are approached,even if it is for their betterment and
the betterment of the society around them, even their families. How difficult is
it to have a conversation like thatif you have experience with that or understanding

(36:22):
how that goes, especially considering thefact that most of the elderly people we
have talked about or that I'm referencing, have no intention on their own to
step aside because they want to havethe ability to do that on their own.
They want to have the dignity tomake that call themselves. I can
see how a guy like Joe Biden, if he is coherent, isn't wanting

(36:45):
to do that. He wants tostay in power. He wants to go
out on his own terms. Hedoesn't want to be the guy that was
replaced by the twenty fifth Amendment.He doesn't want to be the guy that
was told by his own political partyat the end, we got to find
somebody else because you're just not itanymore. He wants to prove everybody wrong

(37:05):
that he can still do the job. He's not the same puppet that we
thought he was, if that's thecase. But I want to hear your
perspective on that situation, if youwant to call us at four oh two
five five eight eleven ten four ohtwo five five eight eleven ten News Radio
eleven ten KFAB Emery's songer on newsradio eleven ten KFAB after yesterday's presser where

(37:29):
people were asking questions about a neurologistor a Parkinson's doctor who has shown up
into the White House and then hisregular physician, Kevin O'Connor jumping in writing
a letter last night basically telling everybody, Hey, nothing you see here.
He's just a well regarded doctor andwe thought it was a good idea for
him to see the President. Well, we're getting your thoughts on this,
and also how if you have anyperspectives personally on trying to talk older family

(37:55):
members into maybe taking a step backfrom either their career are some of the
stuff that they generally would do withregularity. Larry is on the phone line,
Larry, Welcome to the show.You're with Emory on News Radio eleven.
Hello, Amory, Larry Collins.Yeah, I had to go through
this a couple of times, onewith a father in law and one with

(38:17):
mother. The older folks about notdriving, moving to assistant living, all
of those kinds of things. Andbefore I get started, I do want
to say, I mean I'm oldenough and I literally carried signs for John
Kennedy. Okay, So I havebeen raised to vote for the best guy

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period. So here we are werethe man that clearly has diminished capacity.
He's had to be let off thestage. We've all seen this, and
what this really boils down to,including my it's using my experience, is

(39:04):
literally adult abuse, elderly abuse.They're propping him up, using him as
the tool so that the rest ofthe people in Washington, whoever's behind the
scenes, can continue to stay inpower. This man should not be the
leader of the free world. Godbless him he his time is come and

(39:28):
gone. Yeah, for sure,Larry, I really appreciate your calling in
and hopefully this goes in a betterway eventually for him for his own personal
health. But I appreciate the call, do you bet? Yeah? And
just like on on that front,just real quick, you know. I
again, we've talked about Joe Bidenbeing kind of a puppet for a bigger,

(39:52):
grander ideal, right, And asmuch as I understand that, and
as much as I don't think thatthat that's one percent inaccurate, I also
feel like there's a real big partof me that if he was the puppet
that was just following orders from abigger higher power somewhere, I feel like

(40:15):
after the debate, or even maybebefore the debate, he would say I'm
not running for reelection in November andhave more dignity than he has now.
The only thing that makes sense isif his own family. That's the only
thing. Any of the real moversand shakers back there behind the scenes of
the DNC, you don't think thatthey could, you know, work with
a Gavin Newsom or a Josh Shapiroor a Gretchen Whitmer. You don't think

(40:38):
they could, or a Pete Boudhaji, even a Kamala, they absolutely could.
But if this is the Biden familyand those close to the Bidens,
including the man himself, we can't. It might be elder abuse in the
way that they're not telling him toget out of the way, but he
definitely is trying to tell everyone withhis own belief that he can still do

(41:00):
this job, even if we're seeinga completely different version of him than he
was even you know, five tenyears ago. Jerry's on a phone line
four oh two five five, eighteleven ten, Jerry, what's on your
mind? Well, I just wonderingif you know what MEGA really stands for?
Make America great again? Is whatyou mean? Said? No?
Yeah, you know what really standsfor? Uh? What to make attorney?

(41:24):
Get attorney? What does that mean? You're turnal and you want to
make America again and you stand upfor him, then you got it.
If you're an attorney, you're gonnahave to get yourself an attorney because you
don't hot water. Oh didn't thatmake sense? I'm trying to think,

(41:45):
Jerry. I'm sure it's funny.I'll get it eventually. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, you're right. You're right, Okay, I get it.
I get it. You're talking aboutthe attorneys for Trump. I get you,
I get you, I got you. All right, Jerry, Well,
I appreciate it. Just the lightin the load. Yeah, now,
I appreciate the call man. Thanksfor thanks for calling. Sorry it
took me so long to understand whatyou're not going after all? Right later,

(42:07):
Yeah, yeah, Well, inwhat he's saying, right is like,
that's the argument, is Donald Trump'sthe criminal. If you're on the
left, you just keep talking aboutthe other guy, pay no attention to
our guy. If you're an independentvoter, how can you possibly vote for
somebody who's convicted felon even though presidentialimmunity is a thing. I don't know
how that applies to his case inthe thirty four counts and any of that

(42:30):
stuff. But let's just let's let'sreconvene on that when we actually get to
a sentencing and have more of anidea what the heck that's going to look
like. I'm just saying from wherewe're at in this story right now,
if he wanted to have the dignityof being able to like leave on his
own terms, he would have donethat and made that announcement that he wasn't

(42:52):
going to run in November. Himgoing on that debate stage shredded any out
of available dignity he had left.I had somebody email in and said Woodrow
Wilson suffered a stroke while he wasin the White House and was basically hidden.
It was a lot easier to hidewhen Woodrow Wilson was the president,
our twenty eighth president. You goall the way back to the first you

(43:14):
know, twenty years or so ofthe the nineteen hundreds, right, you
have a guy like Wilson, youcan kind of hide them for a year
to eighteen months. They don't haveto be out in about all that much.
There's no television cameras yet. RonaldReagan facing those age related questions.

(43:36):
FDR was in a wheelchair, butthat obviously didn't necessarily affect his leadership until
he eventually did pass away at theend of World War two, not after,
but toward the end of World Wartwo. I'm just looking at it
from a very honest perspective. Ifthe guy wanted anything that he left,
he would have been advised to getout of the way when he had the

(43:57):
chance. After the debate, allbets were off. Everything is fair game,
And for the last twelve days hisown party is a growing number of
people in his own party are sayingwe can't win with him as the candidate.
Kama is going to give him abetter chance to win, just based
on the fact that you don't haveto ask cognitive questions and other people around
her could help her try to dothe job. And maybe you could trick
independent voters into doing that, Butthen she'd also have to get out of

(44:21):
the way for you to realistically havea backup plan. And again, like
Joe Biden mentioned in his letter yesterday, how democratic is that that we went
through that entire process where all ofthe people around the country had a chance
to vote, Even if we knewthat the Democratic primary and caucus season was
a sham, that was what theywere going through. Why would we tell

(44:42):
the voters that their vote doesn't countit, It doesn't matter. The Democrats
are up a creek and they haveno paddle. They're up a creek and
they're carrying around a couple of forks, is what it really feels like.
And I don't know how they're goingto recover from this. One way or
the other in enough time to winin November. But we I've seen in
American politics before, and I'm surewe'll see it again. Between now and
November. Things can change very veryquickly, and narratives can change very quickly

(45:08):
because we have squirrel brains now andwe can be diverted to any number of
things. What's going to be thenext thing to try to take our mind
off of this Biden health crisis.I guess we'll have to wait and see
if you want to call in fourh two, five, five, eight
eleven ten is the number. NewsRadio eleven ten KFAB and Maurice Soner on

(45:28):
News Radio eleven ten kfab basically sayingI'm in the race for better or worse.
Get used to it kind of thing. Okay, So there was that,
and then the next part of thatwas today we're spending time talking about
his doctor sending a letter out KevinO'Connor saying he saw Kevin Canard, which

(45:51):
is a parkinson specialist or a movementdisorder specialist, and he said, well,
he just did that for his physicianbecause he's a renowned doctor. Nothing
really see here and what that meansfor the divisiveness of this entire party,
the Democrats, and how we areled to perceive this and what this means

(46:13):
when the rest of the world iscertainly watching this play out as well.
You can call us at four htwo, five, five, eight eleven
ten and Joe's on the line.Welcome to the show, Joe. What's
up? Good afternoon? How areyou? I'm good. What do you
got going on? Where? Whatare you up to? You got some
going on today, Joe? Thiswas kind of a cruise day. Oh

(46:34):
nice, Well, Joe, Iappreciate a good cruise day when I get
one too. What are you thinkingabout on your cruise day? Well?
I was at my cabin. Ihated to leave. Oh I wish I
had a cabin. Yeah. Anyway, what I called for is that,
unbeknowns to a lot of folks outhere, Joe Biden in nineteen eighty eight
had two aneurysms. He was misdiagnosedby the doctors, and I often wondered

(47:00):
why the news media has never mentionedthat in light of what's going on here
now. Aneurysms are very serious,and I mean I'm no doctor by any
means, but let's put it thisway. It would be worth at least
talking about. Yeah, so ifyou go to the Brain Aneurysm Foundation,

(47:23):
Joe. But there's a headline froman article March twentieth of twenty nineteen that
said what Joe Biden learned from hislife threatening brain aneurysms. And it's a
full article. This is from theBrain Aneurysm Foundation bafound dot org from five
years ago. So I just putit into Google, scroll down a little

(47:45):
bit. I found this and thisis I think this is probably right around
the same time that he probably wasthinking about running in twenty twenty, so
it would make sense that his namewould pop back up in the news at
this point. But yeah, thisis from the Brain Annuals, some foundation.
I have a hard time thinking thatthey would be lying about this.
Uh oh no, this right?Yeah, I know. But like you

(48:07):
said, I mean that would thatwould totally like set back, like you
would be more susceptible, you wouldthink for for cognitive disability later in life,
knowing that you had that happen.And that's that's something that's never been
mentioned. No, and and andit's not even like his team. I'm

(48:29):
scrolling down again. I don't knowwhy I haven't haven't thought or heard about
this as much as you know youprobably should. His team has disclosed this
when it happened back in eighty eight, and they still aren't having to answer
a lot of questions about how thatcould be affecting his health right now.
I mean, it's a great point, Joe, I like, this is

(48:50):
something we should be talking about becausethis is absolutely relevant. That's awesome.
Appreciate you calling in man. Havea good rest of your cruise, Dad,
have a good app Yeah you too. Did you know that? Never
heard of that? I mean Iwasn't alive in nineteen eighty eight, so
I mean I plead ignorance on that. That was the first time he ran

(49:12):
for president? Right? No?Really he ran an eighty eight, twenty
eight, twenty twenty, and nowtwenty twenty four. Did he run an
eighty eight? Yeah? No,wonder the man never wants to let go
the Democrat. That might have beenthe one where he pretended to be that
coal miner guy. Oh that guyhad that whole fake speech that he stole
from an English politician. Oh yeah, Democratic presidential candidates nineteen eighty eight,

(49:37):
Like who else would have been inthis? Who? Who? Who?
Else would have been in this ducaucusof course, of course, Jesse Jackson,
al Gore, it's a young alGore. Paul Simon, not not
that Paul Simon. Darkness, myold friend. Are you going to Scarborough

(50:01):
fair? Dick getpart Uh yeah,and Gary Hart. Candidates who received less
than one percent. Governor of ArizonaBruce Babbitt, activist and conspiracy theorist Lyndon
LaRouche. I haven't heard of him. Former Grand Wizard of the Knights of

(50:22):
the Ku Klux Klan David Duke Yikes, Representative Douglas Applegate of Ohio. Candidates
who withdrew before the primaries. Firstcandidate Joe Biden with drew September twenty third,

(50:42):
nineteen eighty seven, well before thefirst of the primaries. Less than
a week later, Pat Schroeder,a US representative from Colorado dropped out,
So there you go. Indeed,well done. Hey, if you go
on Wikipedia, they have all oflike the polling as it was on the
run up to the It's pretty good, he said, Gary Hart, Right,
Gary Hart, Yeah, I wantbecause he was the Senator from Colorado.

(51:06):
Yeah, and famously he got bustedhaving an affair and I think that
ruined his campaign. Well, heonly got like one percent of the vote
eventually, so yeah, I meanhe was kind of Now I could be
wrong about this, but if Irecall correctly, he was kind of an
early favorite. Then the media bustedin and found out about an affair he
was having, and that was kindof back when it was like do I

(51:28):
report on this? Do I leavethe man's private life alone? Well?
A reporter for The Washington Post askedHeart to respond to rumors spread by other
campaigns that he was a womanizer,and Hart said such candidates were not going
to win that way, because youdon't get to the top by tearing someone
else down. Well, I hateto tell Gary Hart this, but many

(51:49):
many a candidate have been elected becausethey tore the other candidate down. Yeah.
In late April of eighty seven,the Miami Herald claimed an anonymous informant
contact of the pay to relate thatHeart was having an affair with a friend,
claiming it was the equivalent of theIran Contra scandal, which I'm not
very familiar with. Another eighties thing, provided details about the affair and told

(52:10):
the Harold that Heart was going tomeet this person on a specific date.
Ooh. A team of reporters fromthe Miami Harold followed Donna Rice on a
flight from Miami to Washington, stakedout Gary Hart's townhouse, and observed a
young woman in heart together uh ohwith Donna Rice to work with the help
of you, the listeners, ifyou want to help us with that,

(52:32):
you can four two five five eighteleven ten. We keep a trucking along
here on news radio eleven ten KFAB. Emrie Sunger on news Radio eleven ten
KFAB. We had a caller thatmentioned, Hey, you know, like,
why aren't we talking more about that? That could totally be leading to

(52:52):
whatever condition he might be suffering fromright now. It's a good question we
should be hearing more about that.It also got to talk a little bit
more about what was going on inthat nineteen eighty eight presidential race, including
the salacious details of why Gary Hartended up getting tanked. Now you can
call us at four h two fivefive, eight eleven ten. Mics on
the line, Mike, what's onyour mind? Well, guys, I
thoroughly enjoy your programs and I've beenkind of glued to it for the law

(53:15):
sleep or two trying to get thehonest information and appreciate people to call in
as well. But thanks. Ihad to had to call in because I
tend to remember the name of aboat that Gary Hart and Donna Reich had
their little affair. What was thewhole That boat was called the monkey Business.
Yeah, there you go. That'smy trivia for today. Gary Hart's

(53:39):
very interesting boat named monkey Business.Wow. What else would you expect on
a boat named monkey exactly? No, that's a good point, you know
what, See I tell you why. That's something else, Mike. I
appreciate you calling and letting us know. Yeah, thanks, gyeh Man,
that's good. That's good stuff.If you had a boat, what would

(53:59):
you name it? You have toname your boat not monkey Business. Would
you name it a real name?You know, like Forrest gub named his
boat Jenny. Yeah, that justseems like a weird name. It's like
the thing, right, Yeah,the Genny. It doesn't it doesn't sound
right. The Jeni, I thinkthat sounds isn't it pronounced Jenni? I

(54:20):
remember correctly, the Jenni. Wewas live, He's and carrots. Again.
I might not be a smart man, but I know what love is.
Why don't you love me. Ijust felt like running. I could
run like the wind blows. LieutenantDan, you got new legs, Lieutenant
Dan. I tell you what,where's his origin story? Come on,

(54:45):
you know they're making everything in Hollywoodthese days. Where's where's Lieutenant Dan's origins?
Oh? You want to spin off? Yeah? Oh, I don't
need to spin off of Dan.We saw all the important stuff in Dan's
Like you would make a movie andyou'd have to have somebody that kind of
resembles Gary Sinise, and he wouldliterally be just trying to be a guy

(55:06):
in the military. Like the wholething would be him trying to be a
guy in the United States Army Vietnamera. He'd have been raised by a
World War Two veteran probably, andhe would have had some challenges as a
child, and all he wants isthe glory in the war. Unfortunately,
every step of the way, youknow how it's going to end for him,

(55:30):
because you see what happens when he'sin Vietnam, when he gets there
and he's a lieutenant, and notonly that, but you see him as
a guy who has quite the meltdown after he loses his legs, and
what happens when he gets his newlegs, he cleans back up and the

(55:50):
next thing, you know, he'sgot a woman. I kind of want
to see what happens after, right, Oh so you want the big,
big businessman Tenant Dan right with thenew legs and a new lease on life.
And I mean he's he invested inapple for Forest, right, because
when Forrest comes back to help withmommy never goes back, gets a bunch
of they get a bunch of moneyand all that stuff. You know,

(56:13):
you know what I'm saying, Like, like to me, I'm not one
hundred percent certain that there's a uh, I'm not one d percent certain there's
a good story in either direction withLieutenant Dan. I think we have the
right number of Lieutenant Dan things.I think the I think the Forrest Gump
sequel is Little Forest and what happensto him. Yeah, a lot of

(56:36):
questions about that one. Yeah,So whatever that looks like just watching the
countdown, it looks like celebration aboutto happen. Spain after giving up a
very early first goal, scored twicein the first half, about to defeat
France, just waiting for the refereeswhistle. There it is Spain has taken
out France and I officially cannot winin a second box of Omeo cream pies.

(57:01):
Thanks. I might owe you onethough, because the other semi final
is two teams you have, Iowe you one, so it'll be an
exchange of It'll be like uh oror Spain wins the final and then then
there's nothing. Oh that's true.You owe me one and you get nothing.
See any of the Netherlands or Englandto win the final. Anyway,

(57:24):
Craig's on the line. I'll getto Craig here real quick. Craig.
Sorry, we got distracted there fora second. What's up? Okay,
you're telling me Gary Hard. ButI read some years ago that Gary Hart
was pretty confident he's going to bepressing, and he even told that Donna
Rice he was gonna when he gotyou know, he was going to make
her first lady. So why wouldhe do that? That's a good question,

(57:49):
like like how dumb are some people? I just I just wonder,
by the way, he's still kicking. If anybody wants to go find Gary
Hart, he's still He's still He'sstill moving and kicking. I think I
fear killed these political careers. Well, yeah, and his spouse, so
Laitha Ludwig. She stayed married tohim until she passed away in twenty twenty
one. I don't know if theyare separated or anything like that, but

(58:12):
man, that's tough. Yeah.I think he had planned to divorce his
wife and he's going to get electedat marry that Donna Rise. Yeah,
I can tell you what. Idon't know what she felt about all that
when it came, but she obviouslyforgave him and stuck with him for the
rest of her life, which isbetter than I can say for probably most
of the people in this country ifthat happened to them. I appreciate the

(58:35):
call, Craig, thanks for listeningto us. Yeah, thanks for having
me and take care. Yeah,you too. If anybody else wants to
call in, Gary Hart the EuropeanChampionships four scump sequels, I don't care.
We'll talk to you four h two, five, five, eight to
eleven ten. We are scheduled totalk with Sean Callahan at the bottom of
the hour, though, so we'regoing to talk about collectives, how that
works, how it's going to workwith the Nebraska corn Husk, and what

(59:00):
kind of effect that it would haveon what the team looks like and what
access you can get by being apart of one. It's very intricate and
they have to kind of follow certainrules about that. But we're gonna talk
to him at the bottom of thehour, and if you've got something between
now and then that you'd like tocontinue the conversation with, you can call
us at four oh two, fivefive eight eleven ten four oh two,
five five eight eleven, ten NewsRadio eleven ten KFAB