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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So cheers to you. Cheers. Here's here's my day. I'm
waking up way earlier than usual because I have to
drive a lot further than usual. Usually I could wake up,
go into the studio where I do the Des Moines
show from the Kfab Studios essentially during the morning, and
it's like a five minute drive from my house, not
a big deal. I'm like a twenty five minute drive

(00:22):
to the Iowa State Fairgrounds. And you kind of have
to look fresh. Not that I don't look fresh, Matt,
you see me every day. I'm always looking fresh at
nine in the morning. Yeah, that's a lie. I am not,
but you know, I have to look a little bit
better because I'm out in front of people here, so
you know, trying to look as good as I can,
and that takes more time. You know this.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I know this.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I've seen you. I've seen you groom that mustache for
like ten minutes at a time.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Ten minutes at a time. It does take time.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
You lose You're probably losing track of the time, is
what's happening when you're doing it.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, that's true anyway.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
So I got all that and then I'm there. I
got this crazy two hour show from the fairground, which
essentially is fair gats people who are vendors at the fair,
people who are you know, presenting at the fair, people
who are exhibiting livestock, and just all sorts of stuff. Well,
it's just an insane time, and sometimes you double book stuff.
It's kind of stressful. But I really need to like

(01:16):
get juiced up and wake up, and I can't go
back home and like just chillax. So I essentially just
go wander around the fairgrounds for an hour and a
half or two hours before I come into the main
studios here at the iHeart Radio building in Des Moines
to broadcast back to Omaha, which I'm doing right now.
Got to keep the energy up, Okay, there is no
like a little downtime. There isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I'm not going on like a big workout or anything.
I'm not you know, juicing up with like protein shakes
or anything like that. I need some fuel. And so
that's where the Mountain Dew is coming in handy. You
know what I did this afternoon, I got or this
morning slash afternoon, I got done in the with the
radio show, greeted some listeners for gosh an hour or
so close an hour eight some pizza and then walked

(01:58):
over to the horse barn. There's a big horse barn
at the fairgrounds in Des Moines, and a bunch of
perchrons and Clydesdale's just moved in for the rest of
the week. Have you seen a perchron in person?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I don't think I have. I have to google it.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Google Google perchron Tell me how much they weigh, like,
while we're talking about this, guess or like look it
up and look it up and tell me. I would
bet like close to two thousand, like eighteen hundred punds.
Probably they're gigantic.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, eleven hundred to two six hundred pounds.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, so there you go. Eleven hundred I'm guessing is
probably the foles, you know. But I was just there.
There are a couple of perchrons and they're they're like
drafting horses, right, so you just like you hitch them
to a wagon and they pull the wagon. They're awesome
to watch live. There's like teams of six of them
pulling a wagon. It's just the coolest thing. And there
was one of them, her name was Velvet, that just

(02:47):
moved in and she loved the scratches on the neck
and I just stood there for thirty minutes scratching velvet.
Am I weird? Am I a weird guy?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Why is that?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Is that weird?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I don't think so. I just liked I just like
the horses. Did you use a brush, No, I was
just scratching it with my hand.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Did you feed her an apple?

Speaker 4 (03:01):
No?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
No, I'm not going to feed the horse. That's how
you get in trouble. Then they start expecting things of you.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I've never touched or ridden a horse.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, I read rode a horse for the first time,
like what four or five years ago, probably my wife
bought me a birthday present. We went and went horseback riding,
and it was my first time, and she knew I
really wanted to, and I fell in love with it,
Like there's just something about horses.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I think you know, you have dreams, what you want
to do with your life, whether it's your career, your
personal life, hobbies, things you'd like to achieve, things you
want to see, And I think I'm kind of coming
to like the terms of I would love, at some
point to be successful enough in my job and have
enough disposable income that I can do whatever I want.
With that, I can get land to have a stall

(03:47):
and or or a few stalls in a stable and
be able to like do trail riding with horses as
like a side gig, and like own my own horses.
I really think I would. Now, you don't trail ride
with perchrons. You trail ride with like quarter horses and
a variety of others. But I just love them so much.
It's gigantic, almost two thousand pound animals, and all they
want is just you just scratch them. I mean, come on,
And they're not all the same. I know that, but gosh,

(04:09):
if you're a horse person, you want to geek out
on horses, today's your day. You can call in now
four or two five five eight eleven ten. Four h
two five five eight eleven ten. I didn't meeting to
talk about that. I just was so in Uh. I'm
just so excited to talk to talk to people about
some of the stuff that they are I don't know.

(04:30):
Passion is a word that I that means a lot
to me. People get on me a little bit sometimes
when I show my passions. I'm passionate about animals. I
love horses, even if I don't own any right now.
I'm passionate about nature conservation. I'm passionate about talking about
things that matter with other people. I love connecting with people.
I'm passionate about my friends and the people that are

(04:52):
close to me. Passion, I think, is an incredibly valuable emotion,
but it's also a dangerous one. If you become I'm
so passionate you can't see, you kind of get blinded
by your own Passion makes you make bad mistakes. It
makes you feel as though it makes you feel like
any nothing else really matters as much. And it's a

(05:13):
dangerous feeling because from moment to moment, different priorities probably
exists that you need to tackle. And I mention all
of this because there is a woman by the name
of Rachel Gunn. Matt, have you heard of Rachel gun
I have? Did you hear about Rachel Gunn before last weekend?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I can't say that I have.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I don't think anybody did, probably, right, Is that fair
to say?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I think that's pretty fair. Not nobody around these parts.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Rachel Gunn is known better probably at this point, as
Ray gun that's her nickname. She is a B girl.
B girl is essentially what people call a female who
break dances? Is that an accurate statement? I didn't make
that up, right, this is the stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, that sounds right to me.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okay, Well, before I talk anymore about rey Gun and
why she's important, which I'll do in the next segment,
I want to get to Bob on the phone line. Bob,
welcome to the show four two, five, five, eight elevens
in what's on your mind?

Speaker 5 (06:07):
No, Hey, what's going on? And my cousin he always
had horses for the four age and everything. I used
to go to the fair just to see them. Draft
horses are magnificent, yea, and she still has now that
she made a bunch of money off a couple.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Of them she sold.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Defends a guy with her trader all over the country
to rescue horses that they're going to send to things.
So he got like fifteen on the inn back. You're
out there in Ohio and he sends that truck anywhere
to get rescues.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh that man, Bob, that is so so cool.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
I mean, she warmed my heart.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I'll tell you what that is.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Such aw you don't want to ever stand in front
of her when he's whistling either for them horses.

Speaker 7 (06:49):
You won't hear it for a week.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Well, but that's my thing, Bob. Like they just entrance
you with the presence that they have, Like it just
makes you feel an emotion that you just don't have otherwise.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Yeah, it just comes over it when you're when you're
around them.

Speaker 8 (07:05):
They either like you or they don't.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Now they'll give you a little bump ones and them
while they don't like you, so a stair away from them.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
But if you stick your hand out there and I'll
take your fingers off, that's a good time.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Joe. Yeah, Bob, thanks so much for calling in and sharing.
It makes me happy. Thanks so much, you bet. Let's
go to Kevin real quick. Kevin, welcome to the show today.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 9 (07:24):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I'm great? What's up?

Speaker 10 (07:26):
Well, it's just so funny. I just moved into a
house in Pagosa Springs, Colorado. I'm listening to you on iHeart. Oh,
thank you, and it is uh, it is even better
than what you think. It is that dream of yours.
I've been doing this for twenty years.

Speaker 11 (07:41):
Riding around.

Speaker 10 (07:42):
I lived in Elkhorn and rode there, but and then
I spent the last two years down in Arizona. It
was too hot for livestock down there. Yeah, But what
I wanted to tell you is that riding horses is cool,
but riding your own horse is awesome.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yea.

Speaker 10 (08:00):
Once you build that trust where you trust that horse
and that horse trusts you, everything changes. It's it's a
relationship like you can only have probably with a wife.
But it is awesome and just they look forward to
getting to ride every day.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I Kevin, what kind of horses were we talking about
that you have experience with quarter horses?

Speaker 10 (08:23):
Okay, Yeah, I ride trails here, rode all over down
in southern Arizona, down near the border here Nagalas, Okay.
And then I moved up here a month ago. And
this is this is a dream here and everybody. There's
so many horse people here and they all have that
same mental attitude.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
It's a blast.

Speaker 10 (08:43):
I'm sixty seven years old.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, Kevin, it's a dream like like I've talked about.
I mean, I'm trying really hard not to get emotional
just thinking about spending time with such a fantastic and
wonderful soul like a horse, or even having just a
few of them. So other people could ride with me.
But how do you get started? Can you give me
just like a couple of pointers of the way you
got started.

Speaker 10 (09:04):
Well, a fourteen year old daughter of mine wanted a
horse really bad, and then boys in high school took over,
and here I had this horse and the pastor down.
This is when I lived down in Glenwood twenty years ago,
and that was how it started. I just saw that
horse and I thought, well, I'll just go ride it.
I put my golf clubs down, my racketball racket down.

(09:24):
This is all I've done for the last twenty years,
and it is awesome. But I will tell you a
little thing that you can do, because it's not cheap
to have horses. When people ask you how much it is, well,
it can be as much as a million dollars because
you've got to buy a place and have land and
all of that.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
The horse is the cheapest part.

Speaker 10 (09:45):
I bought one for fifteen grand, and I bought one
for five grand. This is my seventh horse. But what
I would tell you is that there are entities there
around the Omaha area where you can rent rent time
with a horse as much time as you want, Like
every Thursday, I want it for three hours, and that's

(10:07):
much cheaper. You don't have to have a place, and
it's a great way to get started. And you can
still build a relationship with that horse, not like having
your own right. The horse will come to know you.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I love this, Kevin, thanks so much for calling in.
This is great.

Speaker 11 (10:20):
You bet all right?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Everybody else on the phone lines, UH, we're gonna get
to you too, because you know what, if people want
to talk horses, that's what we're talking about. We'll get
back to reagun later if you want to talk horses
with me and your experiences four oh two five five
eight eleven ten. Four oh two five five eight eleven
ten News Radio eleven ten KFAB and.

Speaker 12 (10:39):
Raise Songer on news radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
And we're taking your calls on your thoughts of horses
or your experiences with horses, no matter what they are.
You can call in it four oh two five five
eight eleven ten. Four oh two five five eight eleven ten.
Pats on the line, Pat, thanks for the call today.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 13 (10:55):
Hey just wanted to tell you then I eighties and
I was a small child when the workhorse is wiped
to town. My dad said it was the first best
day of his life because you would spend hours during
the day preparing them, taking care of them at noon,
and getting ridding at the end of the day, and

(11:15):
consequently it could be much more efficient using a subtractor.
It was a sad day for me as a little kid.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's I mean, gosh, that's interesting. Pat.
You don't even think about that, because of course we
think of horses in a lot of ways. At least
for me, I think of them as you know, some
you know, kind of a pet almost you know, they're
they're a little different than obviously a dog or a
cat would be, but it's there for the emotional attachment
and that relationship and what you can do with like

(11:44):
riding and stuff. But they're really working animals. I mean,
that's the backbone of what they do. The whole point
of those pertrons being at the Iowa State Fair is
they're there to show pulling big hitches with a team
of them, or you know, talking about like how strong
they are. So that's a good point. Pat, thanks so
much for sharing that story with us today. Let's go

(12:05):
if Greg is on the phone line. Greg, thank you
for listening to our show today, what's on your mind?

Speaker 5 (12:10):
I got a.

Speaker 14 (12:10):
Couple of things.

Speaker 15 (12:11):
I raised Belgian horses for a long time and we
used they used my team to do the groundbreaking ceremony
at Embassy part on the northeast corner of ninetieth and
Dodge in nineteen seventy seven.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Wow, that's so cool.

Speaker 15 (12:27):
And I'm also a certified fairier and I was convention
coordinator for the American Ferry Association and we brought in
the convention in two thousand and six, one of the
first ones at the new uh Well it was the
Quest Center back then. Sure, we had twelve hundred farriers
from over twenty four different foreign countries into Omaha and
they loved Omaha.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
That's awesome. And I remember last year they actually had
like a big, you know, international horse show there at
the Chi Health Center. But Belgians are very similar to Pertron's.
They're just the huge, gigantic horses that you know, can
can pull these giant hitches and it's just so fun
to watch them. But I giants, yeah, I mean, they're

(13:09):
just such magnificent horses. Fairier, though, that is an interesting job.
How does one learn how to be a farrier. And
for those who aren't sure what that is, that might
be a foreign terms of them, can you explain what
a farrier does.

Speaker 15 (13:22):
I'm a horse shoer faeririer. Most of them are at school.
I went to school. I've been twoing horses for forty
eight years. I went to school, twelve week course. A
lot of them are even longer than that now and
then you use the apprentice with somebody. And we've got
a national association and on local association that puts on clinics,

(13:43):
teaches new techniques and demonstrations. Pretty good, pretty good business. Dangerous,
but it's good.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
You know what. I see the farriers doing the work
with the horses and what they have to do to
make sure that they get everything like figured out properly.
Really interesting stuff. And I'm so glad that you shared
that with us here today, Larry or Greg. Sorry, thank
you so much for listening to our show today, and
we really appreciate you being a part of it. Absolutely.
Larry and Stan, stay on the line. Anybody else that

(14:11):
want to share your stories with your horses. A couple
of people have already sent me some photos of their horses,
and that's awesome. I would love to hear it. If
you want to call in with your horse stories, that's
kind of where we're starting today. Four oh two five
five eight eleven ten four oh two five five to
eleven ten. You also can email me, especially if you
want to share those photos, because I'm all down for

(14:32):
some horse photos. You can go ahead and send that
to Emory E. M. E. R Y at kfab dot com.
More on the Way on NewsRadio eleven ten kfav.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Emory Song on news radio eleven ten k FA B.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I sit here as just a man. I'm a simple man,
an innocent simple man. And uh I was just like
I was goin to kind of just full inside. Not
like because I ate a bunch of Iowa stay Fair food,
most of you, because at the Iosa Fair, I went
and pet and got to like see some pertrons up
close and personal. And I love horses. I already know

(15:08):
I love horses, but I also don't get a chance
to be that closer than that often. And there's just
a feeling that kind of overcomes you when you have
that feeling next to these gigantic animals. And so we
just kind of took a hard left turn from what
I had planned, and we're talking about horses and your
experience with horses. I got folks emailing me their photos

(15:29):
of horses they have or horses they have had, and
people calling in with their experience with their own horses
or even just having close up experiences with other people's horses.
And you can call in and be a part of
the show too. Four oh two, five five eight eleven ten.
Four oh two, five to five, eight eleven ten. Larry's
on the line, Larry, welcome to the show today. What's
on your mind?

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Harry?

Speaker 16 (15:49):
How's it going good?

Speaker 10 (15:52):
And it is?

Speaker 16 (15:52):
Yes, sir, I just got to if you're gonna be
a horse person, I've been in horses all my life.
My dad was a guy. He my brother was a jockey.
Three of my uncles were jockeys. I've been around race horses,
I've been around cour to horses. I've been around all
kinds of horses. But let me tell you, if, uh
if you plan on having a horse, immerse yourself around

(16:14):
horse people to learn what to dos and don'ts are
when you get the animal, how to treat it, what
meant to get a good bet. Just uh just choke
yourself into the into into the situation. You will enjoy
your animal more and your animal will enjoy you more.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
That's great, that's great. Uh, great stuff there, Larry Hey. Uh,
jockey jockey stuff. What's the lifestyle of a jockey, because
you know, I've talked to a few jockeys, you know,
when I was doing work at pre Meadows in Iowa
before I got to Omaha, and I know that Zarbon
was a big deal in in the Omaha area as well.
What's the life like for these jockeys, because that is
a tough gig.

Speaker 16 (16:53):
What's their life like? Uh, yes, it's a tough it's
a tough job. They've got to hold their Uh, they've
got to watch what they eat. They've got to be strong,
they've got to work. Uh. My brother used to ride
omahll My dad rode nomahll on the two of my uncles.
My uncle was a king of the bush as they

(17:13):
called him, Willie Lee Baser. I don't know if anybody
around the radio station would probably ever know that name.
But because we're all old now, I mean they're all gone.
But yeah, it's a tough sport, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (17:25):
My brother rode until he died in a car wreckt.
But he was a good rider. He used to ride
Corter horses in the South and he rode thoroughbreds in
the North and uh he he enjoyed it. I mean
made good money at it.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (17:39):
It's it's a good profession. If you want to know
how to handle your money and work hard at it,
you can make a real good living at it. Yeah.
And then when you retire from riding, you might want
to be a trainer.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's a tough Yeah, for sure. It's such an interesting
culture at the horse tracks as well, and those thoroughbreds
are also incredible. You so much for calling him.

Speaker 16 (18:00):
This is you have a good day.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, you too. Stands on our phone line of four
oh two, five eleven, ten, stand what's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (18:08):
Hey, Amory.

Speaker 17 (18:10):
I didn't own a horse, but when I was a
little I grew up right across the street from the
Union Stockyards, so that was kind of like my playground.
And across from that was a horse shoer there. It
was called Radigan and Wagdovsky there for a long time
they would shoot the horse and we go over and
play and watch them do it. Anyway, started hanging around

(18:32):
in the in the yards it south with my cousins,
my brother, we would borrow horses that.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
They had up there.

Speaker 17 (18:40):
They'd drive the cattle, you know, down the alleyways to
the different holding pans every thing. So yeah, we did
that for quite a quite a while, actually a couple
of years at released. We finally got caught. But just
glad it was in the Western days, because I guess
they hung horse thieves or whatever, not saying we stole them.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
But right, yeah, the old West. That that's a that's
a big problem. You know, you can't be they've accused
of stealing people's horses over there, eh, Stan, Sure sure,
sure you gave them back. That's cool. Hey, I love it, Stan,
that's an interesting gig. I appreciate you calling in with
that story today, and thanks so much for listening to us.

Speaker 17 (19:21):
You bet you.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
But Eric is on the line here at four oh
two five five eight eleven ten. Eric, You're with Emory
on news radio eleven ten kfa B. Hello, Eric, are
you there? Okay? No more? Eric going to Bill. Bill. Hello,
how you doing today? Bill?

Speaker 7 (19:34):
Pretty good?

Speaker 18 (19:35):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (19:36):
I'm fantastic today. What's going on?

Speaker 4 (19:38):
Well?

Speaker 6 (19:38):
I won't tell you. When I was a kid, and
I'm eighty one now. There used to be a group
of others to go around as squared ass horseback at
the fairs. County Fairs. Are Steve square ass at the
old Exarvant Racetrack one time.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
And you're on a horse, You're horse, So how does
that work?

Speaker 6 (19:56):
It was a great time in our lives as kids.
Was her collar and he had a daughter. Patsy had
a sudd teeth and I lost track him and I
think Paul's probably gone now, but I'll tell you what.
We squared assed horseback. We went all over squared ass
and had a great time. This kid's doing that.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
That is awesome. I didn't even know that was a thing. Bill.
So was that your your own horse that you were
doing that on on horses?

Speaker 6 (20:22):
Yeah, we had a group brothers that went around squared ass.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, but was it your horse? Did you own the
horse that you had?

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Yeah, we owned our own horses and we trained it
all over and squared assed horseback. We had quite a time. Well,
Paul Kella, he used to work at the old Wolf
Brothers clothing store there in om Hall, and I'm sure
he's gone now. He had a sudden teeth had a daughter,
Patsy lost track of those folks for ass all over
had it was a great show.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
So that is so good pun Thanks Bill, I really
appreciate you listening to us and thanks for calling it
with your story today.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Love our horses, Bye bye, yep.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
See you later. Wow, that's so cool. Matthew says, maybe
you could work at a horse track taking care of
and working out the horses in the stables. Now, Yeah, no,
for sure, No sure, Bill, I think here's here's my
bit on that. All right, So the what Matthews saying,

(21:17):
like there are a ton of people at the horse track.
I've been there and like I said, I did, like
it was TV stuff. You know, it's like you have
the guy that handicaps the race for you and tells
you who he thinks he's gonna win and and all
that stuff, and you know, like how the how each
of the horses probably are gonna do and which ones
you should probably bet on, and it's just you know,
part of adding a little bit of you know, legitimacy

(21:39):
to the race and get people more interested in making
their bets and all that stuff. And you know, being
right is cool, being wrong is whatever. You know, you
try to do the best that you can. But one
thing that I have here is, you know, in my
brain was how really important the care of the horses is.
And to watch the people at the back of the
horse track and all of the daily work. I mean,

(22:02):
it really is daily work with all of these horses
to get them to get their legs stretched out and
to make sure that they are feeling tiptop shape and
they are exercised. And they have riders who are either
exercise riders sometimes riders. You know, I'm definitely too heavy
to be an exercise rider right now. You know, we
were talking to one of the callers about his family

(22:24):
being the jockeys, and those guys live such crazy lives
trying to keep their weight maintained so they can make weight.
You have to weigh a certain number of pounds with
your equipment on the back of these horses, and those
are small, small people, because you can't have too much
weight on the back of a horse during the race
because it slows them down. So it really is something else.

(22:46):
I just those people really know, and that goes back
to another one of our callers. You just really have
to know the horse people and get yourself immersed in
that so you know what you're doing, but being around
them every day, I'm sure is really just a real
thrill for a lot of people. We'll get to more
calls coming up next. If you want to be a
part of the conversation, please do four oh two five
five eight eleven ten four h two five five eight

(23:06):
eleven ten as we talk about horses and horse culture
here on the show today on news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 12 (23:13):
He Maurice Sunger on news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Earlier today, I got a chance to get up close
and personal with a six year old mayor perchron giant
horse who's part of a hitch polling team that's doing
exhibitions at the fair the rest of the weekend. And
she was fantastic. Her name is Velvet. And then I
went across the hall of the horse barn to a
young five year old Philly or sorry, a five month

(23:40):
old Philly, just a little full of these perchurns, looks
basically like the size of a regular horse. She's just
a big baby of a percheron. And her name was Graycelyn,
and I don't know, it just filled me up inside
and I was going to talk about different things involving passion,
and we will get to that in a second, but
I just want to talk about horses. And it sounds
like you got too. Four ten is the number to call,

(24:03):
and Eric is on the line. Eric, thanks for calling
us today. What's going on?

Speaker 4 (24:07):
They?

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, I've heard you the last time, but you couldn't
hear me.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I could not, but I'm glad you called back. Eric.
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (24:14):
I got two quick stories for you.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Okay, When I was a kid, we lived out there
by Have you seen the TV towers out there on
seventy second?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, we lived.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Right east of there back then, though there was only
three of them. Anyway, right to the south of that,
there was a little farm down there, and the guy
had a handful of horses and you could go ride
horses there and he'd take you around the first time,
and then after that you go buy YOURSELFI at a
trail all day down you can ride a horse all
day for a buck. Oh live, Yeah, Well that was

(24:49):
a radio station built there. But anyway, you're right, horses
do get to know you because I had the same
horse every time I went out there. But well, the
other one is my My wife used to take the
kids down to that Keystone Park off the ninetieth and
Boyd and there was a little farm across the street
from there, and they had a big white horse, and
my little girl wanted to see it that was there.

(25:10):
So that's what my wife's Mary told me. So she
took her over there, and the guy came out and
he goes, well, the horse's name is sweet Pea. And
every time she takes them kids the park and then
horses see my little girl. It'd walk to the fence,
so she'd go pull the grass and feeds sweet Pea
and they had a little love relationship going on earth
and of cool.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
That is so cool.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
If you want to see something interesting, watch there's a
movie called The Ballad of Davy Crockett saw on Disney.
I think there's a part of there. He has relationships
with horses and how he goes about it because he
gets stranded and winds up getting his head back home
from Congress and he finally gets home on a wild

(25:53):
horse that over days he coaxed to be his friend,
and the horse never left him after that. It'd run
off because you chased it off, but then tell my back.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
I love it. Hey, you know, Eric, thank you so
much for listening to us and calling in. I love
talking about this stuff. Really appreciate your stories.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Soon.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Thank you all right, see yah.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Teresa's on our phone line of four or two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten. Hey Teresa, what's going on?

Speaker 9 (26:15):
Hey?

Speaker 19 (26:15):
Hey Teresa, Hey Emory. Sorry, I'm under my mower trying
to clean it out in between cold. I was just
I was just calling because I have been. I have
always loved horses. I think since the day I was
born and grew up one of those little girls who
reads all the horse books, collects the horse figurines, et cetera.

(26:38):
Finally got my first one when I was in high school.
That didn't last a really long time because I had
to board her somewhere we never lived. I always felt
like I was not born in the right family, because
I should have been born on a ranch somewhere, but
I was not.

Speaker 9 (26:52):
So.

Speaker 19 (26:53):
But then over the years we've like we finally moved
somewhere me and my family, my husband and kids where
we could get our own So we had a quarter
horse Mayor for for several years, and she lived to
be thirty four years old. Wow, finally had to put
her down, which is was a very very difficult, very
hard thing. My kids all learned to write on her.

(27:14):
She was great. But they are just the best, you know.
My daughter caught the same thing for me, and she
went on to work for Hetera in Valley where you
work their therapy horses. Yeah, and then and then she
was head wrangler at Camp Carroll Joy Holling in Ashland
and we would keep their horses like on the off season.

(27:34):
So that's something you might consider too, is if they
still do that. They need people to keep all of
those camp horses like ten months out of the year, right,
and they're all at the camp for like June and July.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Right.

Speaker 19 (27:47):
So but yeah, they're they're wondering. I mean, they're expensive,
it's an it's an expensive hobby. But but they're they're
a wonderful thing.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, for sure. Well, Teresa, I'm so glad you called
in and gave me that story. I did have Casey
email me and basically explain what Heterra was today and
kind of tell me what Yeah, so, uh, you're not
the first person to tell me about Heterra. That sounds
like such a good idea and you want to talk
about just therapeutic, that vibe that you just get from

(28:16):
horses that kind of specifically are trained in a way
that they can give that vibe off of just like
acceptance and that you're you're accepted here and you know,
I'm happy that you're here with me. And they can't
speak to you. You just have to feel that. It's unexplainable.

Speaker 19 (28:33):
Absolutely, it is amazing what they can do.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I thank you so much, Teresa for the call today,
and thanks for listening to us.

Speaker 19 (28:40):
You bet, thanks em.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
All right, So, anybody else I want to talk horses,
you can four two, five, five, eight eleven ten. I
gotta tell you this is isn't my style right here,
you know, you feel out what kind of gets the
needle moving a little bit, and to have you know,
a dozen calls or more already on the show of
people who share that same thought. That's the power of

(29:05):
community of sharing, like just throwing out there that this
is something that I really like and then a bunch
of people I like that too. There's a community out
there for anybody, anybody and everybody. Couple of things community
wise that I want to talk to you about. First off,
I'm going to get back to my passion story that
I wanted to start with with a breakdancer named Rachel Gunn,

(29:26):
and I'll get to that in a second. And how
much we need to be like, how much does passion
override skill or talent? And also we're gonna give away
a couple more tickets to the Nebraska Balloon and Wine
Festival in the next couple of hours. I don't know when,
and you don't know when. The only way we're gonna
find out is if you keep listening to the show,
so be sure to do that as well. And we'll

(29:48):
have plenty more on the show today if you want
to call us. Four h two five five eight eleven
ten is the number. Four oh two five five eight
eleven ten the number. We'll have more for you coming
up right here on news radio eleven ten KFAB and.

Speaker 12 (29:58):
Marie's telling New Long Goes to College on news Radio
eleven ten Kfab.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
I talked about and if you missed the first hour
of the show, I'm at the Iowa State Fair. I've
been at the fair all week. It was at the
fair at the end of last week two and there's
all sorts of great stuff going on there and I'm
happy to be there. Hopefully you're enjoying my social media
posts from the fair. However, had a great experience today.
A bunch of Perchorons moved in for the Percheron shows.

(30:26):
Percherons are a horse breed that they're very large. They're
probably even a little bit larger, similarly sized as Clydesdale's
and they carry like they drag or pole hitches much
like Clydesdales doo. Clydesdale's just a little bit more famous,
I suppose for doing that. Well. Anyway, there's a bunch
of Percherons that moved in for the shows this weekend,
and I just kind of got to pet and experience

(30:48):
a little time with some of them, and including a
little five month old full of Philly, a little girl
who her name is Graycelyn, and she looks about the
size of kind of a regular horse. He's just a
baby perch on, uh, But she's just like loving the attention.
It's so much fun to interact And I have to
tell you, like it's a dream of mine. In the future,

(31:11):
I'll be deeming myself a success if there's a way
that I personally can have a stall or a barn
and have some stalls in it with some stables and
have my own horses. I think it'd be a lot
of fun. Well, I'm talking to you about your experiences
as well, because we've had very busy phone lines people
sharing their horse experiences and we want you to continue

(31:32):
that as well. Four oh two, five, five, eight, eleven
ten And let's go to Greg to start this hour. Greig,
thanks so much for calling in. What's on your mind?

Speaker 20 (31:39):
Hey, I just want to let you know I used
to work at a horse herpy program and Omaha and
it works. I mean I've seeing them do works with
autistic kids, seeing parents just breaking down in tears and
see with them and a PTSD. I mean, it works.
It works. So there's lots of programs for people to

(31:59):
get involved in it. If they can't, you know, they
feel they can't afford it, google it up. There's all
kinds of programs. They can get grants. I mean, if
you try everything else, try horse.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah. Is this a hat you're talking about?

Speaker 20 (32:12):
No, I mean there's a lot of there's a lot
of horse surpy programs in the Omahi area. There's there's
a bunch of them. There's a with the take flight
victory or a couple healing hands almost see. I mean
there's a bunch of them. There's a bunch of them
in the Omaha area. A lot of them have grants
of programs where the where it's free or you know,
they can get donating, you know, they can work for

(32:33):
donations to get you know, all the horse time.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Sure, Greg, what do you think it is about the
horses that unlock that in human beings?

Speaker 20 (32:41):
They they can communicate with people through, especially with like
autistic kids that are non verbal, they can bring it
out like communication, like with nonverbal communication because they they're
very expressive with their ears, eyes, their nose. That's how
they communicate. And with the autistic kids, they understand that.

(33:02):
They understand face so expression and you'll see them making
faces at each other and the kids are laughing and
all the parents just freak out.

Speaker 8 (33:10):
They're like, holy.

Speaker 16 (33:10):
Crap, what happened.

Speaker 20 (33:11):
Yeah, you know they interest seen a kid act like
that before and they love it.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah. That's about as powerful as you could possibly get.
And there's just not a lot of things in the
world that'll be able to give that experience to you. Greg,
I appreciate you calling in. That's good stuff.

Speaker 20 (33:24):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
All right, let's go to Tim. Tim's on a phone
line four oh two, five five, eight to eleven ten. Tim,
you're with Emery on news radio eleven ten kfab Hi, Amory.

Speaker 10 (33:30):
You guys were talking about a horse movie earlier. I've
got one I watched many years ago. I think this
movie is even older than I am. It's called Scuta
Who Scuta Hey. It's about a team of draft horses
and owner and what they go through. And it's well
worth your time if you like draft horses. It's a
good movie to watch. It's an old movie. And then
I have one story go ahead. Many years ago, I

(33:54):
got to go to the Wisconsin State Fair and they
had Clydesdale's there, and they had this little girl eight
nine years old, you know, very tiny girl. She led
this half grown Clientesdale out into the arena to show it,
and this horse lifted its head to followed it up
on the rope she held on for dear life is
swinging underneath the horse's head like a pendulum. I didn't

(34:14):
bother at all. I just marveled at the power of
that horse because it's just still flick of its head
and she was off the ground.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
They are something else. They definitely are so strong and
all muscle, and it's so fun to watch them do
what they do. Tim, I appreciate you calling in. Thanks
so much for listening.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
You bet you bye, Matt.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Are you off the phone now? It's the Okay, Well,
do you have any horse experience?

Speaker 21 (34:38):
I really don't, but this has been a really interesting
almost hour and a half now and makes me wish
I did, makes me kind of want to seek it out.
I really don't have any experiences riding a horse or
spending any time around them, but gosh, especially Greg there man. Yeah,
well he'sonal allergies back here in the studio.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
I know.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Okay, So here's I went. Like I told you, my
wife bought me a horseback riding for the first I
went horseback riding for the first time. I was twenty nine,
twenty eight, twenty nine something like that. That's just a
few years ago. Hate to make myself. If you didn't
know how old I am, there you go. A few
years ago. I was twenty nine years old and I
rode a horse for the first time, and it was
for my birthday. I kind of fell in love with

(35:18):
seeing the horses at the racetrack and when I was
doing that work, and she took me to this very
rural area and we went trail riding on these quarter
horses and had somebody of course lead us and tell
us how to brush the horse and all this stuff,
and that I mean, like you just can't help but
be like wow, Like if you give yourself the ability
to be present in that moment, that's That's the only thing.

(35:40):
I have no real legitimate knowledge about how to care
for a horse, like on a day to day basis.
I kind of understand based on watching other people what
the horse looks for, what the horse likes. Most of
the horses have, you know, their own little ways of
communicating if they need something or whatever. But there was
something about just I was in that moment and then

(36:02):
it was just me and the horse. Right, yeah, I
was with my wife and I was with the person
leading us on this trail. But for just a couple
of split seconds, right when I saw the horse and
this like, this is the horse you're gonna be riding.
His name is Buddy, he's this you know, eight year
old quarter horse or whatever, and he's like we brushed
him and then we helped saddle him, and then we
got on him or I got on buddy, and uh,

(36:23):
I was, you know, like in that moment of just
like okay, he says, all right, you're my person right now,
and I'm like, okay, you're my horse now. And then
we did a little bit of work on the inside.
I was she showed the woman who owned him, you know,
kind of showed me this like okay, so pull the
reins this way or that way, and this is what
he'll do. And I got like five or ten minutes

(36:43):
just to kind of practice, uh with him, so I
could know what to do when I'm there and when
I'm out out on the trail. And I needed I
needed that, right, I needed to have that moment for
me of like wow, this opens like a huge door
of an emotional attachment that I have with the thing
I don't even know. I don't even know this horse

(37:04):
very well. But it was just like the way that
you communicate with your horse is just such a different
thing than anything else that you ever experience. And to
a point where, like the next year, I was going
through a really stressful time with you know, a few
different things. There's a lot going on, and the way
I wanted to try to like forget about things as
I went camping and went horseback riding and very rule
part of Southeast Iowa, and it was it was every

(37:26):
bit what I needed. It was like a three hour
trail ride and I just was I was sitting there
the whole time, just had an absolute blast on this
horse and just like a lot of deep breasts and
feeling how the horse was reacting to what I was doings.
Just something. There's something about it that if you haven't
experienced it, you kind of just have to give it
a try. And unless you're if you're not interested at all,

(37:47):
or you're freaked out by large animals or something, that's fine.
But there's something that was unlocked in me in those
moments that nothing else, not my dog's, not my wife.
It's a different type of emotion. It just really is,
and it's hard to explain until you actually experience it.
Gym's on the line at four two, five five a
eleven ten, Jim, you got a story for me today?

Speaker 18 (38:06):
Yeah, real quick, good good afternoon, Emory. By the way,
And anyhow, I worked at Xarbon back in the probably
mid eighties and they had the Budweiser Clyde Dale's come
out for some of the racing events. They would pull
the wagon, you know, during between horse races. But anyhow,

(38:26):
we were in the big.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Livestock barn and a guy that was.

Speaker 18 (38:30):
A handler for those horses. He goes, I think it's
about that time, and I'm like, what what time? So
he opens up a long deck Budweiser, sets it on
the ground. Clyde Dale just leaches down, picks it up,
probably drink that beer in about five to eight seconds.
And I go, oh my gosh, you know you're letting
the horse drinks beer. The guy goes, what's it gonna do?

(38:52):
Horse waves eighteen hundred pounds.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I had a laugh.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
That's a good gym.

Speaker 18 (38:58):
First time I see a horse just chug a beer.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
That's funny, Jim, thanks for calling in. That's awesome. Okay, yeah,
I mean it's a good point. You know, I could chug.
I can't chug very well, but I could put a
beer down probably in a good five to ten minutes
if I was trying to, and uh, you know it
give me a good little buzz going. I weigh like
one hundred and sixty pounds probably we're talking about an
eighteen hundred pound horse. It take a barrel of beer

(39:23):
for it to even know what was going on. It's
a pretty fun party trick. Tim's or sorry, Todd's on
our phone line at four two five five, eight eleven ten. Todd,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I got a horse.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
I'll just give me to get your started.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Okay, how's that supposed to work?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Bring a trailer and I'll give you the horse.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Where am I supposed to put the horse? Todd? Like
in my house?

Speaker 22 (39:45):
Wherever?

Speaker 8 (39:46):
He's eating grass right now?

Speaker 23 (39:49):
He won't mind?

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Oh okay, Well, Todd, you know I think my greyhounds
need the grass in the backyard to do their business.
But it whin I okay, So just give me a
few years, Todd. I'm going to try to make a
lot of money and put it away and then i'll
talk my wife in the idea of buying us a
stall somewhere so I can put the horse and then
I'll come pick him up and take him there. All right,
how's that sound perfect? Okay? I called DIBs. I called

(40:12):
DIBs on the horse. All right, thanks Dot, thanks for
the listen. Uh yeah, that's funny stuff. I love them.
You know, and it's in the community. Obviously, we've had
almost twenty calls, are probably close to twenty calls already
today just about this, and that tells you kind of
the the needle moving action. That's something that people are
passionate about what they can do. If you want to

(40:33):
talk horses, you can four two five to five, eight
to eleven ten. I also have some other things I
want to move on within the realm of passion and
how we should judge people about their own passions. That's
coming up as well, and I have tickets to the
Nebraska Balloon and Wine Festival I will be giving away
so much more on the way. You got to stick
around on news radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 12 (40:52):
And Maurice Sunger on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I didn't expect to talk about horses as much, but
you know what, I could do this all day, every
day if people wanted to do this. It's been a
fun conversation so far, and we'll keep it rolling. If
you've got thoughts on your experience with horses, any kind
of horse, or your personal experience with owning a horse too,
which I'm very curious about four two five five eight
to eleven ten is the number to call as we

(41:20):
kind of go against the grain. Is some of the
stuff that we've been talking about the last few days.
Jean's on our phone line. Jean, thanks for listening to
our show today. What's going on?

Speaker 11 (41:28):
Yeah, I was just going to tell you I had
an uncle that lived out by Burwell and had a
ranch and he had a quarter horse, and you know,
he had it, had it for years, and when he
passed away, they brought it. They hauled.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Oh, yeah, you're back, You're back, Jean, I'm back.

Speaker 17 (41:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (41:48):
They brought the horse out in a horse trailer to
the cemetery. I was a pallbear and a six pallbears,
you know, took the casket out of the hearth, and
that horse walked behind the casket all the way to
Great and we had to carry it quite a ways
and it was all saddled up and everything. Nobody let
it or anything. It just followed behind us and they
had his cowboy boots strung over the saddle backwards. And

(42:12):
I'm not exactly sure what that means. Maybe somebody else
would know, but listening to you, if I think it's
something to do with you know, you're not going to
be riding with your boots and the stirrups anymore, you know,
pointed forward or yeah, yeah, So I couldn't believe that
horse is like he sensed or knew that that he
was in that casket.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
So it's hard to explain. It's really hard to explain, Jane,
but I believe it one because they're so loyal to
the people that they make those connections with. It is unreal. Gene,
thanks so much for theall.

Speaker 11 (42:42):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
John is on our phone line of four h two
five five, eight eleven ten. Hello John, what's going on?

Speaker 23 (42:48):
Hello Hemri, thank you for taking my call. I was
born and rased in West Texas, Louder rodeos there.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 23 (42:56):
And the horses that I admire so much the most
is a good roping horse. To me, the training that
a good roping horse has or is just wonderful. Anyway,
I entered a teenage rodeo. We had a rodeo grounds
in our little town, and I entered the teenage roping

(43:16):
and I roped and tied a calf in twenty seven
seconds and won the teenage roping. But anyway, thought and
the horse that I had was certainly not a roping horse.
It was hard to learn, but I rode a good
horse one time. A friend of mine loaned me one
and that roping horse when they turned the calf loose

(43:39):
and it got right on top of the calf, and
I could have just let the rope down and would
have roped that calf. And I did rope it and
tied it down, but it was not as fast as
twenty seven seconds. But anyway, I guess I was about
thirteen or fourteen years old, and ah me, what a
three or it was to win that teenage roping in

(44:05):
twenty seven seconds. And guys, they they're cow horses. Now
they'll get a roper on top of a calf and
you know they do it in sometimes seven eight second.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yeah, they they're fast, man, they are faster. You talk
about that it's a team. It really is a team
between the actual rider and the horse and just knowing
the horse learning and the person learning about the horse
and the quirks and working together in tandem like that.
It's incredibly impressive. John, Thanks so much for sharing your

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story with us today.

Speaker 23 (44:41):
Sure glad to do it, and thanks for having the
Horses program. Hey, it brings back my nostalgia from West Texas,
but I'm a long way for West Texas now in Omaha, Nebraska.
But my how I do admire a good roping horse.
To me, that's the ultimate in train or maybe the
ultimately and entertainment for me is watching a good roping

(45:05):
horse work. It's a work of art.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
I love it. I love it. John, Thanks so much
for calling in man. This is great stuff here.

Speaker 23 (45:11):
Sure, thank you, good to talk with you. Keep up
the good work.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Bye bye, Thanks buddy, We really appreciate that. Yeah, okay,
So roping horses, rodeo horses, this is the kind of
thing for me in my perspective. Right, there's so many
different disciplines. There's so many different things that a horse
and a human with a horse can accomplish, and they

(45:35):
have accomplished over the centuries. I mean, horses and humans
have had relationships together for a long long time. And
horses in a lot of ways are kind of synonymous
with the growth of America if you think about it,
and there are different places where you know, horseback riding
is certainly the way that you were able to get
around and the way that you would get around a

(45:56):
lot faster in some parts of America as the growth
of America went westward, like the manifest Destiny stuff in
the wild West and all that. Of course, the Native
Americans had relationships with horses, and those horses did a
lot of work moving livestock around in days where you
couldn't just put them on a truck. And a lot

(46:16):
of people who had good horses were able to accomplish
great things because of what their horse allowed them to do.
It is an inspiring thing, it really is. If you
got any horse stories, there are thoughts that you would
like to share on our radio show today. Because we
are having so much fun with it, we'll keep it going.
Four h two five five eight eleven ten is the number.
Four H two five five eight eleven ten. Got plenty

(46:37):
more on the docket as well. I want to talk
about passion as a whole after we kind of wrap
up the horse conversation and passion and how we can
judge passion within a person and how much passion should
matter when we are judging a person's performance. I will
explain what I mean when we get there, and I'll
be giving away tickets to the Nebraska Ballunar Wine Festival
here the next hour or two, So stick around here

(46:59):
on news Radio eleven ten KFAB and.

Speaker 12 (47:00):
Mare You's songer on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
There's a something today that inspired me to start the
show talking about a little experience I had at the
Ariwa State Fair today where I got to meet a
couple of pertrons up close and personal. These are big
draft horses. One of the ones I met wasn't big
because she was only five months old, but just a
sweet little horse, and gosh, I gotta tell you it

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inspired me. You know, it makes me continue to hope
that one of my dreams in my life is to
have enough of resources, land, finances, etc. To have some
horses on my own one day that I can, you know,
just try whenever I want, maybe take other people on rides.
That'd be a lot of fun. We've been sharing really
for the entire show. I had a lot of people

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calling in with their own experiences with either owning horses,
riding horses, or seeing people and their interactions with horses,
and we're welcoming all stories today. Phone lines have them
in this busy in a while, and we're having a
lot of fun with it. Four two eleven ten is
the number and Chris is on the line. Chris, welcome
to the show today. What's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Well, once again horses. I guess. First of all, somebody
had mentioned about the horse with the boots backwards. That's
actually a sign of a fallen commander. If you YouTube
or look up Kennedy's John F. Kennedy's funeral, you'll see
the exact same thing in the procession there. Moving on,

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my brother was in the horse business and unfortunately passed
away of a heart attack a few years ago out
feeding his horses. He also was partners with the guy
in upstate New York in a horse farm up there
had about forty mayors. Of course, the mayors are the
ones that get bred to have and they were trying
to get a you know, horse racing deal gone and
it was a very very nice deal. Well, when my

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brother died, the other guy just kind of let things
slide and after about four years he decided to sell
the horse farm. Well, we caught win that the people
that were running the auction. Unfortunately, horses, like some humans,
when they get old, they lose their usefulness, and this
auction were known kill buyers. Do you know what I

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mean by kill buyers.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
I do. Unfortunately, I volunteered with a thoroughbred sanctuary that
you know. These were horses that again, much like you said,
as far as the financial part of the business of horses,
they were deemed basically useless.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, right, exactly exactly. So anyway, there were forty horses.
These guys were well known killed buyers. So I was
kind of frantic and trying to run things together, and
I ran across, just like you said, at thoroughbred sanctuary
called Unbridled Thoroughbred Sanctuary and Upstate New York, a wonderful,
wonderful organization. We got together with them with friends with

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family and raised enough money to buy all of those
horses and get them out two good, good homes, including
the sanctuary and other good homes. The way that works
is once you bid the price up past the point
where it's economically not feasible for those jerks to buy

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these horses and kill them, they'll walk away. So I
just wanted to bring that up that there are places
out there that thoroughbred I'd encourage your listeners google it,
look at what they do, look at the horses that
they say. It's just a wonderful wonderful organization and hopefully
we get to an end of that type of thing
at some point.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
One Chris couldn't say it better myself. Thanks so much
for calling and giving us that information today.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
My pleasure.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Okay, awesome that. Yeah, so there was a there's a
Thoroughbread sanctuary in eastern Iowa. I think they moved since
to Illinois, but they have a very similar story and
most of their horses are actually race horses specifically that
were trained or did actually get to do some things
on the track in various places. And yeah, I mean

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people just don't like they deem them useless at a
certain point. And I got to tell you there's no
doubt to me about the likelihood of us as a
species human beings as a species, as we have increased
our awareness to living beings around us and the way

(51:15):
that we're like one hundred years ago, I mean there
were people, I mean, animals in general were considered pest species.
Most of them were many species of animals were basically
hunted to near extinction or an endangerment. You'd look at,
you know, the American bald eagle. You look at the buffalo,
you look at even Canada geese, which I know a

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lot of people are pretty apprehensive of because of the
way that they are very territorial and whatnot. There are
so many species like that we've become more aware of
and how important it is to try to keep our
ecosystem the way that they are. But for horses, they
can live to be twenty, twenty five, thirty years old
with regularity, and after a certain point they're just not
profitable anymore, and so they'd rather just not have them around.

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And that's an unfortunate reality that Chris shared with us,
and glad that he mentioned that part of it, because
there are people out there that don't think with love,
They don't think with the same type of passion or
compassion that we're talking about throughout this show, and it's
really sad. Hopefully we can get some of that stuff
like the poachers right that you read about in the

(52:20):
Safari Africa areas in places in Asia or Australia who
really are just trying to catch animals to profit off
of them, and it's illegal most places. It's very illegal.
That doesn't stop criminals from doing criminal acts, and hopefully
this continues to be ramped up as criminal just like
puppy mills and things like that. Absolutely despicable stuff that

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people are doing with animals for profit, and I'll never
support it. And hopefully we can get past that eventually
as a species, these human beings. Tom's on our phone
line at four h two five five, eight eleven to ten.
Hello Tom, Yeah, I am Red, sir.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (53:01):
I just wanted to share a kind of a comical
story from when I grew up with some horses on
my stepdad's ranch. He had this horse that stood nineteen
hands high. Wow, okay, and it was just down here
in south to malf Of Railroad, and he let all
the kids in the neighborhood ride these horses. But this

(53:23):
core horse's personality was so different from one time to another.
If a small kid wanted to ride the horse, the
horse would get all the way down on his knees,
lay on his side and let the small kids on.
But the other side was when he was tired of
people riding him, he'd go to the marn. If they

(53:45):
didn't get off, he just turned around and walked slowly
to this branch that scratched his back, and you had no.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Choice but to get off.

Speaker 24 (53:55):
I just wanted to share that with you.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, that's funny. You know they're smart. I mean to
be a companion with you, but they can figure some
things out. They know what they can do, and I'm
sure when that worked the first time, that was always
a go to move for them. Tom. I appreciate the call.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
All right, have a good day, you too, You too.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
That is funny. That's funny. Richard's on the phone line
as well at four two, five, five eight eleven ten Richard,
youre with Emery here on news radio eleven ten kfab Hey.

Speaker 9 (54:20):
Mister Sager, pleasure to hear about one of my favorite topics, horses.
I'll mentioned real quick some people I haven't heard everybody,
but one gentleman mentioned how good roping horses are. You
might one time take a look at what's called cutting horses.
Are you familiar with what that is?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Can you remind me?

Speaker 9 (54:41):
Say again?

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Could you remind me?

Speaker 9 (54:43):
Cutting horses they're used there in competition on a ranch.
They're used to cut say one steer or cow out
of a herd and keep it out. In competition, they'll
have about twenty or twenty five in a bunch in
an arena, and a rider will go in and slowly

(55:04):
cut out two or three, and then that horse will
stay with that one steer and keep it out and
the rider literally does nothing but just stay with the horse.
The horse does it all. It is unbelievable to watch
how fast the cutting a horse will move to beat
that cow from getting back into the herd. Having said that,

(55:28):
on a personal note, I spent most of my life
with horses. I've had the pleasure of probably helping give
birth to like forty or more and then starting them
under saddle, and it is probably for me it was
always therapeutic because there's one lesson you learn around horses,

(55:50):
and that is to go slow and thing. And if
you ever get a horse, I'm going to give you
six rules about dealing with horses. You can't out kick them.
You can't out pull them, can't out run them, can
out push them, you can't out bite them. Rule number
six is you can outthink them. And if you can't

(56:10):
out tenk a horse, you got no business being a
round one because you're going to get yourself heard. Listen,
I'll let you go a lot more callers to go right.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Love it, Richard, thank you so much for sharing all
that stuff. I love stuff. Like that, really enjoying this conversation.
I if you have some thoughts on horses or owning horses,
riding horses, whatever. This is an open forum. You know,
we've done this with a variety of topics, just kind
of got on a roll over the you know, several
months here, and I'm always enjoying. It's always enjoyable to

(56:42):
hear so many different perspectives on one specific topic. And
I'm loving this. You know, we've had twenty twenty five
callers already. If you want to be a part of
the conversation, please call us at four oh two five
five eight to eleven ten, the number four oh two,
five to five, eight to eleven ten. Well keep the
calls a rolling here on news radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 12 (56:59):
And where he sung on news radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Hopefully this has been pretty therapeutic for you. I could
talk about stuff like this all day, you know what.
I'm going back to the Iowa State Fair tonight. My
buddy is got a photo that is on display. He
wants to go find it and then we're gonna watch
a band play. But on our way back there, I'm
stopping by those same perchrons and gonna be saying hi
to Velvet Anti Graycelind, the two that I really got
a chance to scratch on and spend some time with

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in the horse barn as they're preparing for shows throughout
the weekend over at the Iowa State Fairgrounds. We're getting
your thoughts on your experiences with horses, whether you owned them,
rode them, saw something that you know, or volunteered with them,
just anything horse related. And we're getting calls all all
over the place. Cheryl's on the phone line of four
h two, five to five, eight to eleven, ten, Cheryl,

(57:49):
welcome back to the show. What's up.

Speaker 25 (57:51):
Yes, good afternoon, Marie. How are you.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
I'm fantastic today, Cheryl. How about you?

Speaker 25 (57:56):
Thank you. I'm just pulling up here. I was just
out my horses and I happen to catch this. I'm
a longtime horse lover. I'm in my seventies. But I
also wanted to mention not only about the horse slaughter,
which I am not opposed to you Maine slaughter, it's
the ones that happen in these holding pins, these slaughter
pins that go south. But there's another plight of the horses,

(58:18):
and that's the American mustang, which is supposed to be
protected under the Wild Horse and Burro Act of nineteen
seventy one, and the Bureau of Land Management holds regular
roundups by helicopter a lot of the times, practically running
them to death. And then a lot of these horses
are rounded up, if not shipped to slaughter, that held

(58:39):
in holding pins, which we have some here in Nebraska
without any shelter from the elements. So the horses do
have some people that are not compassionate enough for them
and looking out.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
For their best interests.

Speaker 25 (58:53):
So anyway, I appreciate you listening to me.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Thank you so much anytime, Cheryl, thank you so much
for listening to us. If there's one thing that I
want us to, you know, like hopefully be able to
work on. It's not that everybody needs to be in
love with horses or dogs or anything else that I'm into.
You'll have your own interest, like that's just we're all
a little bit different. But compassion and understanding is one
thing that I hopefully we can all understand in a way.

(59:18):
And profiting off of livestock, that's not a big deal, right.
I think that it is important that you know, farmers
have the ability to make money, but I think it
is important that we think about the humanity. That's a
weird word to talk about animals. With the humane situations
that we have continued to try to improve with our farms,

(59:38):
that you know, the species of animals or the different
types of livestock do have a chance to at least
live in a way that they are. They don't have
human emotions, you know, and I don't want to assign
human emotions to them, but I think it is important
that you know, and it creates probably a better product,
to be completely honest with you, with the ability for

(59:59):
them to live a life that has a little bit
of dignity for what their species is. I'm not saying
that you have to you know, prop them up like
all these racehorses are these really big money racehorses get
treated like kings and queens. But you know, I'm talking about,
you know, just thought of what that life. It's a
real life, It's a living soul, a living being, and

(01:00:20):
it is important, I think for us to balance what
that is when we talk about horses or something like that.
Horses obviously aren't your traditional meat livestock or anything like that.
Vince is on our phone line of four two, five, five,
eight eleven ten. Vince, Welcome back to the show. What
do you got on your mind?

Speaker 8 (01:00:35):
Well, just a couple of quick little stories. Just the
experience of horses. Of course, I grew up in the
farm related more of cattle and sheep and all that
here you know, Omaha and out in Springfield was in
four h and you used to date some of the
girls ahead horses and loved to build ride the horse
and stuff. But you know, I mean it's a lot

(01:00:56):
to just get a horse and say I want to
raise a horse of day. And of course my kids
grew up saying, oh I want to horse someday.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Dad.

Speaker 8 (01:01:02):
I'm like, yeah, okay. But you know what I want
to get up real quick is there's several places where
you can actually learn how to ride a horse and
not have to own a horse, and get that experience
and then go from there if you ever want to
buy a horse or get a stable somewhere and that.
But the classes I did the class, and this was
actually out in California, and it was it was a

(01:01:25):
month of training like just in a in a classroom
learning and then you basically go out and you learn
how to shoe, saddle all this stuff. Then you get
to do the fun where the riding. Now, of course,
where I was taking the classes was up in like
the Livermore Hills of you know, the Bay Areas, California,
and it was it was amazing. And the horses we

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had was owned by an ex CHP officer and a sheriff,
deputy sheriff, and so I was training on like deputy horses,
and my experience one time was the experienced riders. We
had some hikers that had got lost in the hill
for like a day, and so he asked for volunteers
and we got to go and search for these and
we did find them that next day, and it was

(01:02:08):
just amazing to be able to do that. But my
worst experience of a horse horses.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
I'm a suluca.

Speaker 8 (01:02:15):
I've always wanted to ride a horse along the ocean, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
No, I've seen those videos. Yeah, for sure, I got
to do that.

Speaker 8 (01:02:23):
But to get there, we had no idea where we're going.
But these horses followed this little path and we had
no idea where we were going. But the horses new
took us out brought us back if we got lost.
We would have never known where we were coming back.
But the horses are that smart they know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
It's so cool man, Thanks so much for calling Vince.
This's are great stories. Uh yeah, this has been fun.
Let's keep going if you if we keep getting people
calling in and it looks like we are and people
in the talk back as well. If you want to
chat about it, we'll talk to you and I'll be
in the next hour for sure, I'll be giving away
those Dubraska Balloon and Wine Festival tickets. But if you
want to be a part of the conversation, four oh

(01:03:02):
two five five eight eleven ten is the number four
oh two five five eight eleven ten. Or you can
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go search eleven ten kfab, hit the red microphone button
and leave up the thirty seconds of your best audio.
We'll get to more of that talking horses. Hey is
for horses and for us today right here on news
radio eleven ten kfab went to the horse barn, which
I always do. I just like looking at the horses.

(01:03:24):
When you're at the fair for eleven days, you can
kind of do the same thing over and over again.
If you want and still see everything. So I went
to the horse barn today and the perchurns just moved
in and those are giant horses. They're very similar to
like the Clydesdales, which are the most famous probably draft
horse breed, but the Pertron's very similar, and they're always

(01:03:45):
moving horses in and out throughout the entire week of
the fair. So the Pertron's just got there, and man,
there are incredible animals and I got a chance to
get up close and personal with a couple of them.
One was named as Velvet. She's a six year old mayor.
She's part of the draft pulling team for one of
the people in that are going to be showing this weekend.
And then there's a full who is a five month

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old Philly. Her name was Graycelyn, and she just loved
to be pet and love to interact with you. And
she's just this little little percheron. She's gonna weigh eighteen
hundred pounds one day, but right now she looks just
kind of like a smaller, normal sized horse and just
enjoys getting loved on. And it just unlocks something in
me today. I know I love horses, but every time

(01:04:27):
I get that opportunity. It just makes me remember that
one of my dreams is I really want to have
the resources one day to have my own stable or
stall and have the ability to you know, have my
own horses and be able to ride them and care
for them and share that love that they can give
to me with other people, much like these people give

(01:04:49):
that opportunity to people like me that don't have my own.
So we're talking about that, We've been talking about it,
and we'll talk more about passion another angle of that
later in the show. But people just want to share
horse stuff all the time. And David is on our
phone line of four h two five five, eight eleven ten. David,
thanks for holding and being on the show today. What
are you thinking about Emory boy?

Speaker 22 (01:05:09):
It's great, Thanks for having me on. I'm a long
time KFAB Daily listener fifteen years. Thanks only my second
time calling in and first time while you're on the air.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
All right, well, welcome to the family, David. We appreciate
you being a part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:05:23):
I love love your show, love the network, even if
I travel for work listening to you on the app.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Hey, Matt, I hope you're listening to this so we
can cut it to make a promo out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
I was thinking the same thing, all right.

Speaker 22 (01:05:36):
We're a longtime, longtime horse owner, homeschooling dad. We've got
a ranch out west of Ashland, and I've got three
of my daughters thirteen, sixteen and eighteen who are daily riders.
We have two quarter horses, Red and Faith, and our
girls compete in what they call the i EA. It's
interested to Alaska a Questrian Association. It's the largest sort

(01:05:58):
of middle school and high school age of questrian sports
group in the world. The girls also do. We just
finished the Lancaster County Fairy. They rode for a week
and I've been One daughter went to Texas for Nationals
this year. But we I just want to let you
know that the responsible horse owners in Nebraska really love

(01:06:18):
their horses and their animals. They're well cared for, regular
vet visits every seven eight nine weeks, Ferriuer comes out,
and these horses are part of our family. So just
wanted you to hear that that. I know your your
last comment was how these horses should be treated. And
horses are different than other animals, even dogs. They're extremely

(01:06:39):
emotionally tied to their owners. And horse owners love their horses.
So one of the call in and and share my story.
We even keep a couple of horses because the girls
love it so much and the boys we have eleven
kids total, you and l we take a couple of
unl horses from the Equestrian quem every summer and care
form and the during the summer season when they're not

(01:07:00):
being ridden. Yeah, so just wanted to share my story.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
David. Wow, that's crazy, Like that is so awesome and
I'm glad that you listen. And because this is the
information that I'm looking for. So if you know, let's
say we fast forward a bunch of years and I
can you know, stack up some savings and some money
and get some resources. Here, what do I what should
be the first thing that I do to get myself started?
If I want to own my own.

Speaker 22 (01:07:23):
Well, you'd have two choices. You could board, which you
can be expensive, or you could you could, you know,
buy a little plot of land and with a house
on it and you know, enough enough acreage for the
horse to graze and you'd be off and running.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Yeah, and for for anybody that's asking, you know, how
boarding potentially would work could you kind of explain that
for people who might be unfamiliar with that term.

Speaker 22 (01:07:45):
Sure, yeah, we have our own We have twelve acres
about eight miles west of Ashland, so you know, we
have we have sufficient space for our own horses. We
do still buy a lot of hay. But for those
who are boarding, there are excellent stables in Omaha and Lincoln.
And you know, you you pay a monthly fee to
stable your horse and the stables. Sometimes the stables charge

(01:08:08):
extra per hey, sometimes it's included, depending on on you know,
what arrangement you you engage in. But you still have
the responsibility of you know, the vet. Regular vet visits
and the ferrier fairier visits are the most important sort
of regular attention your horse gifts outside of you loving
on it as a rider. The farrier is critical because

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the health of the horses hoofs and shoes is critical
to their overall health. So the number one way you
can spot, you know, a responsible horse owner is how
well maintained their hoofs.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Are very interesting, David, this was excellent and hopefully you
call us again someday because this was a fun one.
Thanks so much for listening to us, and thanks for
calling in.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
You bet, thank you all right?

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
That some good stuff. Always love talking to a first
time caller to our show. At least Russ is on
our phone line of four oh two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten. Russ, what do you got for me today?

Speaker 26 (01:09:00):
Yeah, Emery, yes, sir, yes, thanks for taking my call.
I just had I heard you talking horses, and I
had an event that I thought some of the listeners
might be interested in. On October nineteenth and twentieth, the
Iowa Draft Horse and Meal Association will be working the
Iowa State hand corn Picking Contest in the National hand

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Corn Picking Contest, and that will take place at Indian
Creek Museum outside of Emerson, Iowa.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Wow, okay, so I can't can I a little?

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
What does the contest look like? Because I've never even
heard of this before.

Speaker 26 (01:09:39):
What it looks like is a guy starts down the
edge of a cornfield, picking corn as fast as he
can and throwing it into a wagon behind him. Here
in Iowa, we pull the wagons with horses. That's where
the tale into the horses is. I got you, and
you know, whoever picks the most corn in thirty minutes wins.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
I love it. Okay, and this you have the agricultural
tie you have, you're working with a team of you
and an animal that tie. I'm sure you know your
dexterity is being challenged as well as maybe strategic things.
I love this. Can you tell me where it is
and when it is again?

Speaker 26 (01:10:15):
It's at Indian Creek Museum outside of Emerson. It's like
a half mile off of Road thirty four, just west
of Red.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Oak, Okay, not too far from Omaha. Yeah, okay, and
then when is that.

Speaker 26 (01:10:29):
The nineteenth and twentieth of October.

Speaker 18 (01:10:32):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Boy, that is going to be some good stuff. Hey,
you know, Russ, I'm so glad that you called. I'm
so glad that you gave us this info. I think
a lot of people will probably be interested in that thing.
Thanks so much for the call.

Speaker 26 (01:10:42):
Yeah, and you know that that Indian Creek Museum is
an interesting place in its own right, and it'll be
open to the public and you know, anybody who wants
to stop by as welcome. They've got a fundraising dinner
that they serve that day and everything. So if the
weather's nice, it's a real nice day for the family.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
This is good stuff. This is what we signed up for.
This is why I do a radio show right here,
to get information like this. Russ, thank you so much
for calling us. You bet oh Man, Yes, now that's
right now. This is what makes a good radio show,
not just me trying to, you know, find good topics
to talk about, me giving you my opinion on stuff
and the things that I'm thinking about, but also your participation.

(01:11:19):
This show is as interactive as any show in the Midwest.
I will put that up against anybody. We get a
ton of calls, we get a ton of information, but
stuff like that I didn't even know that existed, the
Indian Creek Museum or the Indian Creek Historical Society. Just
through it in Google right now, it's there. There's a website.
Find it. Check it out. That contest looks it sounds
amazing with the horses and the corn picking, and I'm

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sure it's just going to be a grand all time
and really not that far away around Emerson, Iowa, in
in western Iowa, just to the east of the Omaha area.
Let's go to Travis. Travis, thanks for calling us today.
What are you thinking about?

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
It looks like we just lost Travis there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Oh, come on, Travis, we'll call back. Call back, Travis.
I'm going to take a break. We got plenty more
and if you've got some thoughts on horses, horse culture,
We've had an awful lot of fun talking about that today,
So call us at four ROH two five five eight
eleven ten, four ROH two five five eight eleven ten,
four to seventeen to the time on his radio eleven
ten KFAB.

Speaker 12 (01:12:15):
Emory's songer on news Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Anyway, Emory Songer here, Matt Case there and we're having
a great show today four twenty two of the time
on your Thursday. And we've been talking about horses and passion.
Passion has kind of been the underlying thing that I
think we're talking about here, and one thing that so
many people in the you know, dozens of calls that
we've already taken today and the emails that I've received.
One of the things that we can agree on is

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the fact that there's many things that can tie us together.
And this conversation, no two calls have been at all alike.
And that's what I love about this show. Matt's on
our phone line at four ROH two five five eight
eleven ten Hello, Matt, what's on your mind?

Speaker 14 (01:12:56):
Yeah, Emory, I grew up in Los Angeles and I
learned how to ride a horse before I came then
to ride a bike, and it was in between in
then alleyway in front of these industrial buildings. And then
when I went to Boystown, I got sent there when
I was twelve years old, and they had these two
Belgiums that were they used to pull our hay rack

(01:13:20):
trailer and it was they were the most beautiful, wonderful
horses ever. Yeah, and we got a chance to ride,
uh rescue thoroughbreds the boys town had and we used
to have horseback rides in the summer every every every day.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
That is so awesome, Matt. What like for you know,
from your perspective, like you said, you know you had
experience with horses, Were the Belgians kind of your favorite?
Because that's my thing now Now I go to Iowa
State Fair. They make it very clear what breeds are which,
and like what are some of the characteristics of them
and and their sizes and what their best at. Are

(01:14:00):
Belgians your preferred one or do you think the Thoroughbreds
are more your your speed? Which ones were your favorites.

Speaker 14 (01:14:06):
The Belgians were the work horses because they were so massive.
They and gentle. I mean, they were just a big,
beautiful horse, and you were just at all with the
size that they were and the things that they did.
That's I used to love Belgiums for that reason, only
just because they were so beautiful and gentle.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
I have a video actually of a couple of Belgian teams.
I think they're Belgians. They might be Shiers. I might
have gotten those mixed up, but they are. I put
that on my social media. I watched some of the
hitch teams the other night at the Iowa State Fairgrounds
during their big evening show, and it's just unbelievable to
watch them do their thing. It really is. Matt appreciate
the call. Thank you so much for listening to us.

Speaker 14 (01:14:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Debbie's on our phone line of four H two five
five eight eleven, Say and hello, Debbie, what are you
thinking about?

Speaker 9 (01:14:52):
Hi?

Speaker 27 (01:14:53):
I'm calling about a four H program in a Bras, Okay.
I've been involved in the Sarpykani and cast County four
H for about twenty five years and it's really rewarding,
very rewarding to work with little kids. Most of them
don't have horses.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
So I provide horses.

Speaker 8 (01:15:11):
I let them use mine.

Speaker 27 (01:15:12):
They are very thankful. They're always good kids that just
want to love horses.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
That is awesome. So how do like somebody might be
listening and are like, you know what, I'd never have
thought about, you know, my kid they might be interested
in something like that. What's the best way for them
to get involved in something like four h.

Speaker 27 (01:15:28):
The best way is your county extension office and to
have to ask about the four h program. A lot
of the places they don't provide horses, and a lot
of leaders don't you have to have your own horses.
Sometimes they have a horseless horse program. They teach them information.
In mind, I'm hands on and my horses do double.

Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
And triple duty as affair.

Speaker 27 (01:15:51):
That is, so they have to really work and they
got to be really kid proof.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Yeah, no, it makes sense.

Speaker 8 (01:15:58):
I just love it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Yeah, And that's what I was gonna say. Your experience
definitely with those specific horses, you're able to kind of find,
you know, the right fit for kids in a program
like this, and you're making memories there that those kids
couldn't get anywhere else. So Debbie. I'm so thankful that
you do that for those kids, and I'm so happy
you called to let us know that that was happening.

(01:16:20):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Frank absolutely, Scott Avita, everyone else calling in. The calls
still are coming in. This is so fun, This is awesome.
If you got thoughts on the horse thing, if you
have your own perspectives, you want to call in, you
can four h two five, five, eight to eleven ten.
You can also leave us a talk back on the
free iHeartRadio app. Just search eleven ten kfab. There's a
red microphone button right there. You can click that record

(01:16:43):
up to thirty seconds of your best audio. If we
like what we hear, we'll play it on the air.
We'll get to one of those a little bit later
on in the show, and also we'll do a couple
other things passion related that I wanted to share and
get thoughts about, including break dancing and the Olympics, which
I don't really want to talk necessarily about the sport itself,
but how we're viewing something we don't know much about

(01:17:03):
that somebody else might be passionate about, even if they
aren't visually that impressive and also roller coasters. Got a
story for that as well. And I'll be giving away
at some point once the phones settled down, I'll give
away a couple of tickets to the Nebraska Balloon and
Wine Festival. So a lot still to come. Stick around
news Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 12 (01:17:20):
Erie sum on news Radio eleven ten kfab phone.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Lines have been very busy. Let's just get right back
to it with the conversation itself. You can call in
with your own experiences with horses and your own passion
within that realm by calling in at four oh two,
five five eight eleven ten four oh two, five five
eight to eleven ten. Scott's on the line. Scott, welcome
back to the show today. Thank you for listening to us.

Speaker 7 (01:17:45):
Yeah, hey, Emery, So you've been at the fair. So
did you stop and see the best equines in the barn?

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Uh? Well, it depends on what those are. I've seen.
I've been a pretty frequent visitor to the horse barn,
so I feel like I've seen a little bit of everything.
But what are you thinking about specifically? They're Scott?

Speaker 7 (01:18:03):
The best decline are the donkeys?

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
The donkeys? Why is that?

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
Well, they are definitely not horses, and I'm talking about passion.
My wife and I started a donkey rescue back in
two thousand and nine in Southwest Iowa. Oh awesome, and
rehomed over two hundred of them. Wow since that time. Yeah,
it's crazy to think there's that many in the Midwest,

(01:18:29):
but certainly are so.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Yeah. So can you tell us a little bit about
donkeys and the difference. Well, obviously, I think the connotation
people think of donkeys, they don't see them as these
pristine and majestic animals like they see like a thoroughbred
race horse or a Clydesdale, but they are actually incredibly
useful in a lot of other ways. So can you

(01:18:52):
kind of explain what the appeal for a donkey would
be that's so different than maybe some of these more,
you know, more top of mind horse breeds.

Speaker 7 (01:19:02):
Well, sure, I mean, first of all, the companionship, they're
more of a you talk about personality, and was listening
to some of the other folks talk about horses. They
certainly are bonded to humans, but a donkey's personality that
I've experienced is more like a dog associated with the
human than a than a than a horse. We have

(01:19:23):
a mascot is named Stewie, and he will follow you anywhere,
go into a building with you. Once they trust you,
they trust you, you know, unequivocally. The big I think
the biggest difference is about donkeys, and that's probably where
they get there. People look at them as stubborn or

(01:19:46):
or not wanting to listen. They they just questioned things
more than horses. A horse gets spooked and will take
off and run and tell it's out of breath or
you know, run through a fence or whatever it is.
Donkey will approach anything that it's nervous about and say
should I run? Do I need to run? If I run,

(01:20:07):
how far do I need to run? And so the
one experience I've had at least with people a story
I had when we were rescuing, and this was several
years ago. A lady called me and said, we want
to know if you got any safe ponies for the
kids to ride that we can adopt. And I said, well,
faith and pony shouldn't go in the same sentence. Yeah,

(01:20:31):
But so she came out with the kids and we
had a mammoth donkey. And if anybody's familiar a mammoth donkey.
Its head could be the size of a man's torso
they are large donkeys. And her name was Big Mama,
And so I put her six year old on this
little pony that was supposed to be trained, and it

(01:20:52):
was doing pony things and kind of scurrying around, and
Big Mama was out there, and we put the kid
on Big Mama and she didn't even move, and she
just kind of soundered around with her on the back.
And I could see right away. I was like, well,
the pony's not getting adopted today, but big Mama is.
And right then you can see the transition in the

(01:21:14):
person's eyes that that that's the way to go.

Speaker 9 (01:21:16):
So but no.

Speaker 7 (01:21:18):
The another good thing is if somebody's really wanting to
get into horses something like that, but they don't have
the space or kids are kids are a little more
skittish around a big horse, get a miniature donkey. They're
easy to take care of. Like I said, they're very
faithful to their owners. And if you're just getting started,

(01:21:39):
it's a it's a good it's a good way to
get started in a in a small way. The cost
of hay and feeding and all those things goes greatly reduced,
especially if you're talking about a miniature donkey. Get your
feet wet with a with a donkey, and they're great
companions for horses as well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
That is so cool, Scott, you're still doing this, You're
still adopting donkeys out.

Speaker 7 (01:21:58):
Yeah, I'm my wife and I aren't doing the day
to day anymore. We've passed that along to some good
friends of ours and the rescue is Lusco Farms Donkey
Rescue out of Malvern, Iowa. So it's l u s
COO and you can find us on Facebook. We just
had our big fundraiser down at low Sill's Harley Davidson
last weekend. Unfortunately, it had been nice to have this

(01:22:19):
topic last weekend that much, but no, we have. We
have a good following and if you want to join
us on Facebook and check out all the things that
Lusco Farms is about. We're also there to educate and
help people answer questions. So always looking for people to adopt,
looking for people to help with the donkeys that we

(01:22:41):
do have and would be glad to to you know, Welcome,
Welcome to Lusco.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Nation, Lusco Donkey Rescue.

Speaker 7 (01:22:50):
Right Lusco Farms Donkey Rescue.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Lusco Farms Donkey Rescue and put it in Google right
now and I am going to like that page. I
really appreciate this, Scott. This is fantastic. Thank you so
much for listening to us. And this is so cool.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
I'm really enjoying this conversation as a whole. But now
I know more about donkeys than I ever thought I would.

Speaker 7 (01:23:09):
Well, it's a good topic. I'm glad I'm enjoying the
conversation today.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
That's awesome. Thanks so much for Colin Scott. You have
a gray as your day?

Speaker 7 (01:23:17):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
All right? Do we still have a vida on the line?
A vita? Thanks for listening. What's on your mind?

Speaker 18 (01:23:22):
Hi?

Speaker 28 (01:23:23):
Actually it's Mark and Anita.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Come on, Matt, what are you doing back there?

Speaker 28 (01:23:29):
And I didn't realize this was basically about horses and donkeys,
but it is. I was calling about community.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Okay.

Speaker 28 (01:23:39):
I live in Southwest AIOA, actually Farragut, and we have
a rock group called FCRH, which is Fremont County Rock
Hunt and we go to some of the city events
going on. Are you still there?

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Yeah, yep, yep, ok.

Speaker 28 (01:23:53):
Sorry, and my husband and I just went out all
over Clorinda riverten Tabor, Sydney, all over putting out some
of the some of the hide rocks. But we also
are going to have an event September seventh for the
Popcorn Days in Hamburg, Iowa at the Scout Scout Hall
there and it's free to the public. You come in,

(01:24:16):
you paint a rock, and we've got a lot of
little prizes for kids and some bigger prizes for adults.
The adults can enter a drawing and the kids get
one just if they finish their rock.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
That is awesome. Yeah, yeah, this is you know, we
talk of passion. We talk about passion in regards here,
you know, and we've been talking a lot about horses today,
but this is the kind of thing that I really
wanted the show to be about. I just hadn't gotten
to all the other things I wanted to talk about,
because for the last two and a half hours, people
have just wanted to call in and talk with all
their horse experience. But this is what I'm talking about

(01:24:48):
with people who just they really have a love for
something and a greater purpose within that love that they
feel that they can achieve. And it's so great to
know that there are people out there that are achieving
that and help others along the way. So, Market and Nita,
thank you so much for calling in and for listening
to us. If good luck once again.

Speaker 28 (01:25:05):
Yeah, it's a lot of fun and you can find
us on Facebook under FCRH for Fremont County Rock Hunt.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
Love it. Fremont County Rock Hunt. Thank you so much
for the call. You guys have a great rest of your.

Speaker 9 (01:25:16):
Day, you too, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Yeah, absolutely, Matt, you're back there in the studio there. Yeah,
how do you get a vida out of Mark and Anita?

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
She said Anita? She didn't say Mark.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Okay, well a vita is what you sent and put
in my Ah, well it was a small mistake on
tomato tomato? Am I gonna get another tomato?

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Tomato? How about a orange apple?

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
We still got that talkback?

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Ready?

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Okay, so this is Andy. Andy. Send us a talk
back if you're wondering how to send us a talk
back and what a talkback is pretty easy. All you
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comes up right on your home screen every time you
log in or open that iHeartRadio app. It's very nice
to have. And when you hit our station, there's gonna
be a little red microphone button that's right next to it.

(01:26:00):
While it's playing the station for you, you hit that
button and it will actually record your audio for up
to thirty seconds. You bet you have something on your
mind you don't want to call in. That's an easy
way for us to be able to play your audio
as well. We'll comb through it. It may we may not
get to it for a while, Like Andy's, I think
we've had for you know, an hour now, and I

(01:26:20):
haven't just gotten to it because the phone have been
so busy. But uh Andy sent us this talk back
as we continue our course conversation.

Speaker 8 (01:26:27):
Question for the kill buyer, why would they buy it
just to kill it?

Speaker 24 (01:26:31):
I'm very unfamiliar with the subject.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
That's a good question there, Andy, So I it's a
it's tough okay, so, and it depends on the sources
that you have for all that, But basically they there
there are a variety of different ways and reasons why
this happens, and there are many rescues of a variety
of horse breeds or donkeys or anything like that that

(01:26:55):
helped prevent for this, But what is going on at
the equivalent basically of people buying the horses and uh,
it's basically a kill pin that these horses will go
to slaughter for a variety of different reasons. Now, I
think it has something to do with you know, it
depends on I guess your geographical location as well. But

(01:27:18):
it's hard for me to kind of understand it as well.
My overbreeding, I think is a problem. People have too
many horses or horses that they just need to get
rid of. Like I think the specific conversation we were
having at that moment was the guy in upstate in
New York that had like forty Thoroughbred horses they were
trying to put together kind of a horse racing thing.

(01:27:38):
Guy didn't pay close enough attention, decided he wanted to
sell everything. And most of the people lining up for
these forty horses were kill pins. Now, basically they're a
kill people kill buyers who ship it to a kill pin,
and they post over and over and over again that
this is going to happen so they can get money

(01:27:58):
basically for the horse. And I don't understand. I guess that,
you know, like where they get sent for that kind
of slaughter specifically. And I'm guessing that the kill buyers
aren't going to be listening to this radio show to
call us and try to inform us, because obviously we
consider them the bad guys. But I suppose that most

(01:28:20):
of this is just a matter of either driving prices
up or trying to provide meat or something like that.
And the slaughtering of these horses that happened in like
Japan or Korea. I know that there was one horse,
I think his name was Ferdinand, who was He might
have been a Kentucky Derby winner or like a Breeders'

(01:28:40):
Cup winner in the late eighties. But there's a huge
deal about he was sent to Japan to be a
stud like a good race horse usually does, and after
a certain amount of time he made a bunch of
babies in they just decided okay, like he had served
his purpose as a baby maker, essentially made a lot
of money for a lot of people. And then because
Japanese people do different things, their culture is very different

(01:29:03):
than ours, and this is you know, still I think
in then late nineties, probably he was sent to a
slaughterhouse and was turned into meat, you know, And obviously
that's really starking shocking for us to think about, because
we don't see horses as that kind of livestock in
this country. A lot of rules changed based on that
information alone. I did see something I think it was
Germany or some European place. This is not horse related,

(01:29:25):
but there was a European zoo that had a giraffe
that was genetically just not They couldn't breed with this giraffe. Like,
this was a male giraffe and he wasn't going to
be able to breed because the genetics just sent in
line up there. He was like a genetic he was
too similar to another breeding giraffe that was in the
zoo system in Europe. And this isn't all that long ago.

(01:29:47):
I read this story and it just made me so mad.
But that zoo just decided they were gonna kill the giraffe.
Like they euthanized the giraffe who was you know, I
think only four or five years old. He wasn't that old.
And they said it was to save space for the
other giraffes. They were overpopulated and he didn't have you know,
they couldn't send him to another zoo because he wasn't
gonna be useful as a stud, And then they fed

(01:30:09):
him basically the meat that went to the other animals
in the zoo. I mean, just crazy stuff that other
people and other cultures do that we would just be
appalled at. It's hard for us to understand it. And
I'm not even gonna pretend like I do.
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