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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nick skorms open. It's ready to go. We've heard some
advertising for it. I hadn't actually eaten there. And then
last night, who we had some salmon. My wife had
some Oh man, it was some great filet. Oh, it
was so good. Had some meatballs for an appetizer, had
one of the Wedge salads.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And some of the beats. Have you ever beats before?
Beats by Drey or the Food the food beats them
like the beats, Yeah, from Doug. Doug's favorite band, the Beats.
That's right, favor the beats.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
They say they sing killer Tofu.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah. I know it's so good for you, but it
tastes so bad. I'm not a fan personally. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
They weren't that bad. Yeah, wow, he never had beats before,
you know, really, I never had pretty good they dressed up.
I'm curious. Yeah, they had. They had a little bit
of greens on the top and a little bit of
like sauce, like cheese sauce. I think. I don't really
know exactly how to describe it, but it added it
added quite a bit to it. Earthy flavor, right, It's
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like a real earthy flavor. But it's good. I enjoyed it.
You know, I liked the beat balls better, but that
doesn't mean that the beats were not good. Wedge salad
and like the special bacon style dressing that they have
on that. Oh it's great. You want to know something.
It was a great dinner, So Nick s Korum could
I don't sing their praises. It was a good, good
time that we were able to have out there last night,
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and my wife and I definitely had a good time.
And thanks to everybody for the kind words on my
social media, especially a lot of people wishing us a
happy Annie. And I don't know, just another day at
the end of the day, but it's nice to reminisce.
We did a lot of reminiscing about our relationship, and
I think that's healthy to do if you've been with
somebody for a while. You know, we're still feeling good
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about it, so that's good. Anyway, Happy late anniversary to
my wife who may or may not be listening. And
three or sixty four days to the next one. Well, well, well,
I opened up my new use things today around eight
am as I was preparing for my Iowa show this morning,
and you'll never guess what I saw. There, Matt I
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saw that third party candidate, independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy
Junior very well may end up dropping out of the
race for presidency and swinging his support behind Donald J. Trump.
This was alerted to us, essentially by Nicole Shanahan. It's
his running mate, the entrepreneur. She's pretty rich, related to
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the Broncos coach or not? No? No, no, he had
them on.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Hey, come on it it's a fair question.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
No, it's not. There's a lot of Shanahans though. Yeah, yeah,
you got Kyle Kyle Shanahan remember him.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh, now, he is related to that Broncos coach.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
He is, He is his son, and he's also the
head coach of the forty nine ers. Anyway, let's say,
let's say RFK Junior's supposed to address the America on Friday.
He says he's going to address it America about the
present historical moment and his path forward. Does that not
sound an awful lot like he's definitely dropping out or
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is he suspending his campaign? Oh? Come on, you know
that's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Not to Mary Anne Williamson.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Touche, touche. How many stops and starts did that lady
have to you is He's like, Hey, it worked for
Jordan and jay Z. You forgot about dre Yo. Yeah? Hm, anyway, No,
what does that mean? What do you think? What is
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your initial gut reaction? It could be anything. It could
be anything of how it affects the race. It could
be anything about what it says about the viability of
a third party candidate. It could say about the waning
support that he has had over the last three months,
especially when everybody found out he wasn't going to be
on that first debate stage. What do you think? What's
the first thing you think about at this moment? Late
August November's the election, the most viable third party candidate
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drops out and decides to support one of the two
major parties. What does that mean to you? It's interesting?
What does it mean that he's a lifelong Democrat, his
entire Famili's Democrats. He pulls out of the Democratic Party
because they start blocking him from having an opportunity to
challenge Biden in a primary, becomes an independent, and then
by the end of the next calendar year he is
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joining basically the Republicans. What does that say the I
would say the Democrats the DNC. They're a very organized
bureaucracy at the end of the day. Oh yeah, that's
what it says to me. Oh yeah, you want to
talk about gatekeepers. Yeah. They have literally changed the rules
every single election cycle to help their preferred candidate. Each
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of the last three election cycles.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
They move goalposts, they change definitions, and if their followers
don't step in line, they're off the boat.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I mean, you might as well. Tulsa Gabbard. They just
started calling her a Russian asset. The next thing you know,
she's on Independent Island. A couple observations here and this
is I am. I don't know what he's going to
say on Friday, but his running mate, Nicole Shanahan was
on a podcast earlier this week. You know what she said.
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She said, well, we have one of two options. The
first option is we stay in the race and we
try to be as viable as possible for the future
independent candidates who want to be a third party running
right or or we drop out and throw our support
behind Donald Trump to avoid a Harris Wall's presidency, which
is what they want to do. And it doesn't necessarily
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mean that they're one percent supportive of all the platforms
that Donald Trump has. It sounds more like they just
hate the Democrats. They hate the bureaucracy, they hate the gatekeeping,
they hate that they are pardon pun undemocratic in the
way that they operate. How ironic isn't it ironic? I
tell you what, if you look at it from that standpoint,
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blocking them from getting to the White House if you can.
I don't know how much power Nicole Shanahan thinks she
and RFK Junior wield if they decided to bow out
and then try to bring all their supporters over to
the Trump camp. But don't you think, after all this time,
it might be just a little too late to actually
make much of a difference. I just like, do you
think that this is actually going to make any wavelength? Like,
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let's say he drops out. He's pulling around three and
a half to four percent these days, which is a
far cry from six months ago when it looked like
he was in the fifteen seventeen percent range and seemed
like he very well could have ended up on a
debate stage. He didn't make that first debate, and that
tanked everything for him. I don't think that's it's I
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don't think it's exclusively that. But I think that along
with people recognizing that a vote for Kennedy really is
just tossing your vote the trash can. Even though I
don't like that viewpoint and I disagree with that, there
are many people out there that are like, why would
I do that to myself? When push comes to shove,
I want my vote to count for something. Voting a
third party candidate basically means that I didn't really use
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my voice properly. I don't. I just don't. I don't
think his three and a half percent, even if they
do all run back to like run with him to Trump,
I don't. First of all, I don't think it's that easy,
and second of all, it might make things a little
bit more close, but I'm not sure that it does.
I'm not sure that not sure. Like the Democratic Party, right,
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they're not going to be wanting to gobble those people
up either. So I just don't know. So let's farm
this out. Call us right now. Four h two five
five eight eleven ten. Four H two five five eight
eleven ten. If RFK Junior drops out like we think
he may on Friday, what does that mean about a process?
What does that mean about the two party system and
what does that mean about politicians that a guy who's
a lifelong Democrat within a calendar year goes from trying
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to leave the Democratic nomination to becoming an independent to
literally swinging all of his support behind a very far
right Republican candidate for reasons that aren't necessarily policy related.
What does that mean about politics in America? We can
chat about it. Call us at four h two five
to five, eight eleven ten on News Radio eleven ten.
Kfab announcement on Friday, which basically he is going to say,
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I'm dropping out of the race. We don't know this
for a fact, but Nicole Shanahan, his vice president, has
a kind of dropped a little bit of some breadcrumbs
that this could be something they decide to do, and
RFK would be dropping out of the race and then
supporting and endorsing Donald Trump with the hope that potentially
maybe he could end up working with Trump in a
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potential presidency if he were to win. Well, let's get
to the phones. Four h two five five eight eleven ten.
What does this mean? Brian's on the line. Brian, welcome
to the show today. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Oh, I have this to Robert F. Kennedy junior endorsement
story from August fifteenth Washington Post Robert F. Kennedy tried
to meet with Kamala Harris this cabinet job. Yeah, Independent
presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Bought a meeting last
week with Democratic nomine Kamala Harris. Yeah, it possibility of
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serving in her administration. Right, perhaps as a cabinet secretary
if he throws the support behind her campaign and she wins,
according to right RFK.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
But but Brian, I know what you're saying, and I
did see that headline as well, but he has denied that.
He's adamantly denied that that happened. So I don't know
what to believe there, whether it's supposed to is leaning
Democrat most of the time in their reporting, or RFK
basically saying that that did not happen. But you know,
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obviously we're not. If he did that, sure, it looks
really stupid for him because now we're going to see
him do the same thing for Trump. But I just
don't know if I believe that, because why would he
run back to the Democratic Party at this point? I mean,
they have disenfranchised him every step of the way.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well, I suppose he could believe the record for credibility
of RFK Junior or the record of credibility of the
Washington Post. To answer that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Question, well, what about the credibility of Nicole Shanahan.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I think they're seeking an endorsement. I mean they're seeking
a cabinet position and willing to give an endorsement to
whichever candidate will give it to them. And I think
you'd like to be the Food and Drug Administration in
the administration.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Well, I guess we're gonna find out Friday when he
makes his announcement, but I would imagine it's going to
be Trump he endorses. At this point, Brian appreciate the
call as always.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Sure because Harris didn't want to sell out to him
or he just.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Didn't ask her, But thanks Brian. Anyway, Yeah, anybody could
be lying. I could be lying to you right now.
You know what I had last night? It wasn't It
wasn't just beats. You know what else I had for dinner?
I pulled parsonnips out of the ground and ate them fresh. Wow,
right out of the ground, right out of the ground.
Did you clean them? At least, Oh, yeah, I put
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him under the under the under the faucet.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Okay, and then I ate my parsnip parsnips, yeah, or
eat him in the parsonage.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
No, I didn't. But you know what, I actually didn't
eat parsnips. And you wouldn't know the difference because people
lie all the time.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Now, did RFK Junior do that or did somebody report
that that happen to try to make RFK look stupid?
I don't know, all right, The Washington Post lean's left
a lot of the time. It would behoove them in
their interest to make RFK look stupid, and also to say,
you know, hey, RFK wants to hop on the Harris bandwagon.
Who knows? Who knows. We're not privy to those conversations.
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But if he says specifically I didn't do that, and
he's also this week potentially going to endorse Donald Trump,
it's hard for me to believe that he was asking
Harris just a week ago that was going on Kevin's
on our phone linet four two, five, five, eight to
eleven ten, Kevin, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Just wanted to say I didn't give Lak gives up,
so Pa, I'm gonna stand behind Trump. I think that'll
be the best scene for Trump and the Republican Party
and sense that they need all those votes they can
get yet that are on the line and basically are
the case saying, Hey, the Democratic Party he was part
of his whole life, and when they don't run a
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Democratic party by a democratic process, He's like, what I'm
tired of the party? Is what it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
No, and there's no doubt about that. But I'm sure
it's been difficult for him because the rest of the
Kennedy clan basically said they disowned him. They didn't want
him to be a guy who represented that family anymore. Certainly,
he feels like the Democratic Party tried to block him
for any growth because they wanted to protect Biden at
all costs, which we know they do stuff like that.
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My biggest thank Kevin for you is is there enough
support with Kennedy right now that would swing that direction
for it to really make a difference.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
That's a good question. I mean, who knows, because the
media is saying every other day, you know, Trump's behind,
then the next day he's ahead, and then Kamali. You
know she was wavey behind. You know, Biden was way behind. Yeah,
and then he takes office and now she's ahead. I
don't believe the polls, but you have to run like
you're behind, as Trump says, but on same tokens, every
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vote is going to count. It sounds like if it's
that close.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, you're definitely right. It could make a big difference
at the end of the day, especially in those swing states. Kevin,
thanks for the call.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
You bet, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Thanks. Let's get a pat on the phone line at
four h two, five, five, eight eleven ten. Actually Pat
hung up. Why do people call just to get in
line and then they hang up? It doesn't make any
sense to me if you had to, If you had to,
what's your gut telling you, Matt did RFK Junior ask
the Democrats if he endorsed them, would he be welcomed
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back with open arms and potentially get a job in
the cabinet? Do you believe that that happened? The Washington
Post says it did. RFK himself says it did not.
Who do you believe? Who do I believe? And you
got to keep in mind, I keep in mind that
we expect him to endorse Trump. If he drops out
this week.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It doesn't change a whole lot for me whether I
believe that or not, because I don't know, right, we don't.
We were never gonna know no for sure, But I
wouldn't be shocked by it. The guy was a Democrat
for his entire political career, yes, and noted environmentalists. He's
done a lot of work that would fall on more
of you know more. He's definitely more Democrat than Republican
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historically as far as his passions in life and the
career he's had and the work he's done. Like to me,
they kind of kicked him out of there when he
ran for president, and so it wouldn't shock me one
bit if he was kind of like, hey, you guys
want to mayakopa, that might win you some votes and
then they said no, and he's like, Okay, you know
what that means, right, M I mean, does that mean
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he's two faced?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I don't know. That's why he's playing the game to decide,
or he's playing the game because this is the game.
There's no viability to him at this point as a
third party candidate, so why would he stay there?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Right, and at this point at his age, and he
ran for president because he wants to do something right.
He's seventy years old. So if it was you and
you were in that position, and you could, you could
want you're bargaining for a spot to make a difference.
Does it matter what regime you're on, You're just there
to make a difference.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's an interesting question because it should matter, right the
way we talk about politicians on both sides hating each other,
you would think at some point it should matter that
you belong to one side or the other. This is
one of the things about the current two party system
that I always find interesting is there are plenty of
people out there that have no problems flip in sides
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if it makes sense for them in that environment, if
it helps them. They don't pledge allegiance to political parties,
and neither should we. We just like the fact that
we and I say we not as me and you.
We as a society generally like to belong to a team.
We like to root for one side or the other.
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You have some bandwagoners that like to kind of stay
flowing in the middle and pick a side that they
think is best at the time has the momentum. There
are a lot of people like that, even in politics.
But people like to see that D and that are
so they know whether or not they're supposed to like you.
And the unfortunate reality of the situation is the politicians
don't see them less themselves that way. They are independent contractors.
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If they want to go up the ladder, like RFK
seemingly wants to do as he enters his early seventies,
he's willing to do it with anyone and everyone who
will give him that opportunity. Is that inherently wrong? I
don't think so. But it definitely goes against the way
that we're seeing politics are versus D, right versus left.
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It definitely goes against all that stuff. If you've got
thoughts on this or anything else, you can call us
four h two five five, eight, eleven ten. We'll take
more calls next on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
And he's telling that on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
He's going to talk the way that he said this.
I just want to get it right.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
He will talk about the present historical moment and his
path forward. In an address to the nation earlier this week,
on a podcast episode, Nicole Shanahan, who is his running
mate and on the independent ticket, kind of drop some
breadcrumbs that it might make more sense to support Donald Trump,
drop out of the race, support Trump, and try to
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do everything they can to avoid Harrison Walls winning because
they are very bitter about the way that the Democrats
did him dirty. Is what it kind of sounds like
from Nicole's perspective. He also had Brian in the first
half hour remind us that there was a Washington Post article,
and you can believe it or not that RFK Junior
went to the Harris campaign and asked, Hey, if we
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drop out and endorse you guys, would there be a
job for us in the administration. According to the Washington
Post article, he was rebuked, turned down, denied, and now
we expect him to drop out and potentially endorse Donald Trump.
So all those factors involved, and also the effect it
could have on the race at hand, we're talking about
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it four roo two five five eight to eleven ten.
You can call this a four row two five to
five eight eleven ten for your perspective on this. And
Eric is on the line. Eric, thanks for calling in today.
What's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Yeah, first off, thanks so much for taking my call
and hosting such a great show that really tries to
get at, you know, what is reasonable in a lot
of these issues, unlike the callers, which are I find
quite entertaining, where they give you half truth and partial things. Anyway,
I appreciate your perspective, and I think on this issue
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it's kind of emblematic with Kennedy kind of looking at
the Party of the Democrats of our parents, right, our
parents generation, where the party today, the Democratic Party doesn't
look anything like that. And I think there's a lot
of people who are They may not agree with everything
on both sides of the aisle, but you know, the rational,
reasonable people trying to look at what's happening and saying
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this isn't what I'm for. I'm not for, you know,
gender mutilation of teenagers, I'm not for, you know, price controls,
and and you know, changing our fundamentals of our economy
it doesn't make any sense, and against oil exploration and
energy independence and things like that. So I think there's
a lot of people that are looking at, you know,
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the choice that we're about to have and saying, you
know that Donald Trump's not perfect certainly he has a
lot of flaws, but his policies make sense, right, They're
common sense. But I think there's a lot of people
that are coming over to that fence, and I really
hope he does endorse Trump to give him that boost,
give him that extra percent or two And I think
there's a lot of people on that on that side
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of the aisle thinking that way.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Now, Yeah, I guess a couple of things. Eric, I'm
with you. I do like to just reiterate this because
it is difficult when you talk about what seems to
be common sense for us, maybe here in the Midwest,
maybe not the exact things that are noticed or are
cared about the same and differ in places. There are
definitely a lot of Democratic voters out there that just
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don't care about the same things the same way we do.
So I do fully anticipate there to be tens of
millions of people that are really excitedly going to vote Democrat,
even though it doesn't make a lot of sense for
us where we live. Is the last point you made,
the one or two percent potentially that could help boost
Donald Trump in as close as it seems like some
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of these states are, that could be a big help
for him. My question would be, though, who already was
supporting RFK Junior. Was it more Republicans or was it
more Democrats? Because I think that's one of the reasons
why the number dwindled is people kind of ran home
after a while. They recognized that they were a Republican
that didn't want to vote Trump and they wanted to
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support a third party candidate that excited them. They're like, oh, yeah, no,
that's cool. Or were they more Democrats who didn't want
Joe Biden that ran to RFK Junior. Then it's as
soon as Biden what his pants on national television and
they decided to make a change, did those people run back?
I'm just not sure how much him supporting Trump is
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going to help Trump as much as he potentially is
just going to restore what he already had. What do
you think?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
You know?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
I mean good point. I think there's both. I think
both are true, But I think the overall message is
the Democratic Party is a mess and they seem to
be trying to cater to all of the extremes, and
you have someone who's reasonable and independent making the same
decision that there are probably quite a few independence out
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there that are still wrestling with They don't like either candidate,
but which candidate makes more sense for them, And I
think there will be a small shift from an announcement
like that, and it's certainly something Trump will use to
show and highlight. Look, there are people who are moving
to our side for a reason. They're excited about Trump
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for a reason. And it's not I just don't like
that that's my reason for voting. It's actual policy reasons.
And I think that's what's going to sway the election
for Trump in his favor. It's the policy decisions that
we still don't even know what come all A stands
for because you don't talk to anybody.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, and that's a good point. But again I said
this again. I hate to sound like a broken record,
but the Democrats are running on personality over politics or policies,
if you will. They want you to feel like they're
the cool kids, that they're the people that you would
like to hang out with, that you are comfortable supporting,
and the policy is all this stuff that goes over
the head of all these young voters or people that
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are independents that don't follow politics on a day to
day news cycle. Like we do, Eric, And that's my
biggest fear is that if you're going on you know, personality,
and you're going on vibrant and s year, you're going
on who the cool kids will end up being in
this election, that's an uphill battle for the Republicans as well.
I appreciate this call, Eric, It's been great. Thanks so
much for listening to us, and call us again anytime.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, if you want to call us, you can't four two, five, five,
hit eleven ten. Had a couple of people here, Susan said,
I do have a problem with people who support a
candidate's strictly based on whether they have an R or
a D in front of their name. I have a
problem with what RFK is doing because it shows me
and these are my thoughts. Susan sons that he is
not thinking of backing a candidate based on values or morals,
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character and policy, but which one gives him the best deal.
And I think that's wrong. That's what Susan said. It's
kind of part of the game. Though at the end
of the day, right a guy it was completely disenfranchised
and blocked out of the Democratic Party despite belonging to it.
For a long time, many very liberal, left wing Democrats
are looking at him and say, you're not one of us.
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You're definitely not somebody that I want to be a
representative of this political party. He says, Okay, fine, you're
going to let me run for president legitimately and get
this primary and caucus season a legitimate one. Then I'm
going to run independent and I'm going to try to
do everything I can to take you down. Now again,
I'm a little skeptical of whether or not he asked
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to get back in the mix once Kamala Harris took
over the top of the ticket, like the Washington Post
insinuates that he did a week or two ago. But
him deciding just to swing Republican to take them down,
that's part of the game. Like, I really see that,
especially if he has the opportunity to work in that
administration regardless of political party. It is a thing that
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I think Trump can use saying here's a lifelong Democrat
that over the last twelve months has shifted all the
way over to the Republican Party and is endorsing me
a right wing candidate. We have people who care about
policy wanting to do this. I just don't know. For
RFK and Nicole Shanahan, it's about the policy. I think
it's about trying to stick it to the dams. Doug's
on our phone line of four O two five, five,
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eight eleven ten, Doug, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (24:46):
That take my call?
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
I's use as a win win for Trump. Basically, if
Kennedy has something to offer, maybe Trump finds the sum
position administration for him. But if not, you can always dismiss.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Them, get rid of him.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
And I think if if Kennedy still has the ability
to pullywork from say one to three percent of the voters,
that's one three percent that Trump cannot afford to lose
this point, and for what it will cost him to
do it, it's very minimal. Secondly, like I said that,
the propaganda value of having a lifelong Democrat switching over
to the Republicans is also very beneficial. Basically it shows
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is Democrats have left people, They have deserted the party
name structure they had for generations. Now they've gone to
some weird.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Place in left Land.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
And Kennedy, even though he has some very bizarre views
on a lot of things, a few things I agree
with this as you on vaccines and governmental obstiters and healthcare,
I weer those environmental stuff is way off the wall.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
But you know what, don't as.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Such of energy make me some job that befits his
particular specifications and foibles. And I just don't see it
as a lass. And I think it's only beneficial if
they can use himself.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Right, No, and I agree if you're Donald Trump. There's
nothing but good that comes out of it if you're
a Republican, not just to have his support, but that's
one less thing you have to worry about when it
comes to election days. Split in some votes with Republicans
that would rather vote for RFK than for Trump, maybe
this will bring them back into the fold. I guess
my bigger issue overall isn't necessarily from a Trump perspective
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or even this election. It's just what does it say
about our system now that it's really a game that
is to be played by people who are literally just
lobbying for opportunities jobs, and they're willing to flip sides
or jump ship or kiss up to whomever they need
to when we're here fighting basically these tribal wars over
(26:41):
social media and with rhetoric about which side is actually
better for America moving forward, when the allegiances of the
people that are actually the politicians don't even seem to
be within that political party at all. It's more about
themselves and what gives them the best opportunity to do
what they want to do as a career. And that's
where I think the disconnect can even roll out of this.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
The thing you have to realize to people don't talk
about this, but policy has always been about pragmatism. What
we have two parties because we had ten parties like Italy,
we never getything dead.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, no, I.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Get that you have to pick one or the other.
So in sessence here, what what Kennedy is saying is
the Democrats has deserted me. They have left me in
the wilders. They have said that I can't even participate
in their system of trying to become the candidate nominique.
So he's saying, I'm going to something is closer to
what I believe in what they have. Now that doesn't
mean that publicies are great or grand, but it just
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means that they are offering more in what he thinks
the system should be. And I have to agree with that.
I think if you can't find the part of you like,
you switch to a different party. But you know it
may mean you change parties a couple times in your life.
I know people who've been Democrats, rempublics and independence in
their lifetime and they have really changed as people. But
the parties have changed what they represent, and so people
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have to adjust their perspective.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Right, I'll ast you no, but it's a good point there, Doug,
and thank you so much. We're calling in. I always
like to hear your perspective on things. If you've got
some thoughts, you can call in it. Four two five
five eight eleven ten four h two five five eight
eleven ten. We'll wrap this conversation up and reel in
another third party candidate you may not have heard of
and what their goal is next on news radio eleven
ten kfab Emery Songer share it with someone you on
(28:21):
news radio eleven ten kfab. The Constitution Party. Did you
know that was the thing? The Constitution Party? It's third party.
You're seeing some pictures of old Randall Terry. Oh I'm
seeing a fur coat. Oh yeah, he's a he's an
interesting guy. Well, he's a pro life activist. His whole
thing is the he targets abortion clinics, he blocks interests,
(28:45):
stages protests, and I mean just very radical in his
way and really wants abortion just to be outright banned
across America. Now his strategy. This is a quote from him,
and I bring this up to kind of like fold
into the RFK conversation because this is a third party candidate. Now,
you would think with these really hardcore pro life activism
(29:08):
right or anti abortion or whatever you want to call it,
he's really going to attract people who care about pro
life activism on the right. Who would he be taking
votes from? You think candidates on the right for sure. Yeah,
So here's my mission is still the same. This is
Randall Terry talking. My mission is still the same, and
(29:29):
that it's to make it a criminal act to kill
a human being from conception until birth. For that to happen,
you have to be in the political realm. You have
to be a lawmaker. I'm not going to win the presidency.
I'm not running to win. I'm running to be the
margin of defeat in the swing states. Because I'm a
federal candidate, I can run television. Adds sixty days from
the election, and the TV stations are required by law
(29:49):
to take them, so I can target Catholic and African
American voters in Wisconsin, in Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Now, he continues,
my candidacy is based around the three ds. Defend children,
defeat the Democrat nominee, destroy the Democrat Party. That's the mission.
And for every one voter that leaves voting for Trump
for me, there will be twenty that leave the Democrats
(30:11):
because of the way our ads are targeted and because
of our messaging. Oh boy, do you believe him? Do
you think for every one Trump voter that votes for him,
that twenty Democrat voters will leave that party and not
vote for Harris because of how powerful his anti abortion
or pro life ads are in those swing states. I
(30:34):
haven't seen any of these ads. Well, they can only
run sixty days out. Were not quite there yet, so
with zero reference can't It would only be in Wisconsin, Michigan,
and Pennsylvania. So there's a good chance we would have
to go on the internet to see it. But at
the same time, you really think somebody on the left
already is going to change their mind about abortion because
(30:54):
of Randall Terry's advertising.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
This seems to be an attempt at pandering in a
certain way that's gonna I think it's gonna hurt him.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Skeptical. I think it's gonna hurt his overall cause more
than it's gonna help would be my fear. If there's
any vote splitting to go on with him involved, it's
gonna be Republicans that really care about pro life more
than anything else. And Donald Trump says it's a states
rights issue. This guy says at the federal level, I'm
gonna take it out. They may vote for him. That
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would be dangerous for the Republicans. So keep an eye
on Randall Terry, the crazy guy who's in charge of
the Constitution Party. We'll have more for you on news
radio eleven to ten kfab
Nick skorms open. It's ready to go. We've heard some
advertising for it. I hadn't actually eaten there. And then
last night, who we had some salmon. My wife had
some Oh man, it was some great filet. Oh, it
was so good. Had some meatballs for an appetizer, had
one of the Wedge salads.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And some of the beats. Have you ever beats before?
Beats by Drey or the Food the food beats them
like the beats, Yeah, from Doug. Doug's favorite band, the Beats.
That's right, favor the beats.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
They say they sing killer Tofu.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah. I know it's so good for you, but it
tastes so bad. I'm not a fan personally. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
They weren't that bad. Yeah, wow, he never had beats before,
you know, really, I never had pretty good they dressed up.
I'm curious. Yeah, they had. They had a little bit
of greens on the top and a little bit of
like sauce, like cheese sauce. I think. I don't really
know exactly how to describe it, but it added it
added quite a bit to it. Earthy flavor, right, It's
(01:02):
like a real earthy flavor. But it's good. I enjoyed it.
You know, I liked the beat balls better, but that
doesn't mean that the beats were not good. Wedge salad
and like the special bacon style dressing that they have
on that. Oh it's great. You want to know something.
It was a great dinner, So Nick s Korum could
I don't sing their praises. It was a good, good
time that we were able to have out there last night,
(01:25):
and my wife and I definitely had a good time.
And thanks to everybody for the kind words on my
social media, especially a lot of people wishing us a
happy Annie. And I don't know, just another day at
the end of the day, but it's nice to reminisce.
We did a lot of reminiscing about our relationship, and
I think that's healthy to do if you've been with
somebody for a while. You know, we're still feeling good
(01:47):
about it, so that's good. Anyway, Happy late anniversary to
my wife who may or may not be listening. And
three or sixty four days to the next one. Well, well, well,
I opened up my new use things today around eight
am as I was preparing for my Iowa show this morning,
and you'll never guess what I saw. There, Matt I
(02:07):
saw that third party candidate, independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy
Junior very well may end up dropping out of the
race for presidency and swinging his support behind Donald J. Trump.
This was alerted to us, essentially by Nicole Shanahan. It's
his running mate, the entrepreneur. She's pretty rich, related to
(02:32):
the Broncos coach or not? No? No, no, he had
them on.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Hey, come on it it's a fair question.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
No, it's not. There's a lot of Shanahans though. Yeah, yeah,
you got Kyle Kyle Shanahan remember him.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh, now, he is related to that Broncos coach.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
He is, He is his son, and he's also the
head coach of the forty nine ers. Anyway, let's say,
let's say RFK Junior's supposed to address the America on Friday.
He says he's going to address it America about the
present historical moment and his path forward. Does that not
sound an awful lot like he's definitely dropping out or
(03:10):
is he suspending his campaign? Oh? Come on, you know
that's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Not to Mary Anne Williamson.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Touche, touche. How many stops and starts did that lady
have to you is He's like, Hey, it worked for
Jordan and jay Z. You forgot about dre Yo. Yeah? Hm, anyway, No,
what does that mean? What do you think? What is
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your initial gut reaction? It could be anything. It could
be anything of how it affects the race. It could
be anything about what it says about the viability of
a third party candidate. It could say about the waning
support that he has had over the last three months,
especially when everybody found out he wasn't going to be
on that first debate stage. What do you think? What's
the first thing you think about at this moment? Late
August November's the election, the most viable third party candidate
(04:05):
drops out and decides to support one of the two
major parties. What does that mean to you? It's interesting?
What does it mean that he's a lifelong Democrat, his
entire Famili's Democrats. He pulls out of the Democratic Party
because they start blocking him from having an opportunity to
challenge Biden in a primary, becomes an independent, and then
by the end of the next calendar year he is
(04:26):
joining basically the Republicans. What does that say the I
would say the Democrats the DNC. They're a very organized
bureaucracy at the end of the day. Oh yeah, that's
what it says to me. Oh yeah, you want to
talk about gatekeepers. Yeah. They have literally changed the rules
every single election cycle to help their preferred candidate. Each
(04:49):
of the last three election cycles.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
They move goalposts, they change definitions, and if their followers
don't step in line, they're off the boat.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I mean, you might as well. Tulsa Gabbard. They just
started calling her a Russian asset. The next thing you know,
she's on Independent Island. A couple observations here and this
is I am. I don't know what he's going to
say on Friday, but his running mate, Nicole Shanahan was
on a podcast earlier this week. You know what she said.
(05:22):
She said, well, we have one of two options. The
first option is we stay in the race and we
try to be as viable as possible for the future
independent candidates who want to be a third party running
right or or we drop out and throw our support
behind Donald Trump to avoid a Harris Wall's presidency, which
is what they want to do. And it doesn't necessarily
(05:47):
mean that they're one percent supportive of all the platforms
that Donald Trump has. It sounds more like they just
hate the Democrats. They hate the bureaucracy, they hate the gatekeeping,
they hate that they are pardon pun undemocratic in the
way that they operate. How ironic isn't it ironic? I
tell you what, if you look at it from that standpoint,
(06:09):
blocking them from getting to the White House if you can.
I don't know how much power Nicole Shanahan thinks she
and RFK Junior wield if they decided to bow out
and then try to bring all their supporters over to
the Trump camp. But don't you think, after all this time,
it might be just a little too late to actually
make much of a difference. I just like, do you
think that this is actually going to make any wavelength? Like,
(06:32):
let's say he drops out. He's pulling around three and
a half to four percent these days, which is a
far cry from six months ago when it looked like
he was in the fifteen seventeen percent range and seemed
like he very well could have ended up on a
debate stage. He didn't make that first debate, and that
tanked everything for him. I don't think that's it's I
(06:52):
don't think it's exclusively that. But I think that along
with people recognizing that a vote for Kennedy really is
just tossing your vote the trash can. Even though I
don't like that viewpoint and I disagree with that, there
are many people out there that are like, why would
I do that to myself? When push comes to shove,
I want my vote to count for something. Voting a
third party candidate basically means that I didn't really use
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my voice properly. I don't. I just don't. I don't
think his three and a half percent, even if they
do all run back to like run with him to Trump,
I don't. First of all, I don't think it's that easy,
and second of all, it might make things a little
bit more close, but I'm not sure that it does.
I'm not sure that not sure. Like the Democratic Party, right,
(07:36):
they're not going to be wanting to gobble those people
up either. So I just don't know. So let's farm
this out. Call us right now. Four h two five
five eight eleven ten. Four H two five five eight
eleven ten. If RFK Junior drops out like we think
he may on Friday, what does that mean about a process?
What does that mean about the two party system and
what does that mean about politicians that a guy who's
a lifelong Democrat within a calendar year goes from trying
(07:59):
to leave the Democratic nomination to becoming an independent to
literally swinging all of his support behind a very far
right Republican candidate for reasons that aren't necessarily policy related.
What does that mean about politics in America? We can
chat about it. Call us at four h two five
to five, eight eleven ten on News Radio eleven ten.
Kfab announcement on Friday, which basically he is going to say,
(08:20):
I'm dropping out of the race. We don't know this
for a fact, but Nicole Shanahan, his vice president, has
a kind of dropped a little bit of some breadcrumbs
that this could be something they decide to do, and
RFK would be dropping out of the race and then
supporting and endorsing Donald Trump with the hope that potentially
maybe he could end up working with Trump in a
(08:41):
potential presidency if he were to win. Well, let's get
to the phones. Four h two five five eight eleven ten.
What does this mean? Brian's on the line. Brian, welcome
to the show today. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Oh, I have this to Robert F. Kennedy junior endorsement
story from August fifteenth Washington Post Robert F. Kennedy tried
to meet with Kamala Harris this cabinet job. Yeah, Independent
presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Bought a meeting last
week with Democratic nomine Kamala Harris. Yeah, it possibility of
(09:13):
serving in her administration. Right, perhaps as a cabinet secretary
if he throws the support behind her campaign and she wins,
according to right RFK.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
But but Brian, I know what you're saying, and I
did see that headline as well, but he has denied that.
He's adamantly denied that that happened. So I don't know
what to believe there, whether it's supposed to is leaning
Democrat most of the time in their reporting, or RFK
basically saying that that did not happen. But you know,
(09:43):
obviously we're not. If he did that, sure, it looks
really stupid for him because now we're going to see
him do the same thing for Trump. But I just
don't know if I believe that, because why would he
run back to the Democratic Party at this point? I mean,
they have disenfranchised him every step of the way.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well, I suppose he could believe the record for credibility
of RFK Junior or the record of credibility of the
Washington Post. To answer that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Question, well, what about the credibility of Nicole Shanahan.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I think they're seeking an endorsement. I mean they're seeking
a cabinet position and willing to give an endorsement to
whichever candidate will give it to them. And I think
you'd like to be the Food and Drug Administration in
the administration.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Well, I guess we're gonna find out Friday when he
makes his announcement, but I would imagine it's going to
be Trump he endorses. At this point, Brian appreciate the
call as always.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Sure because Harris didn't want to sell out to him
or he just.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Didn't ask her, But thanks Brian. Anyway, Yeah, anybody could
be lying. I could be lying to you right now.
You know what I had last night? It wasn't It
wasn't just beats. You know what else I had for dinner?
I pulled parsonnips out of the ground and ate them fresh. Wow,
right out of the ground, right out of the ground.
Did you clean them? At least, Oh, yeah, I put
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him under the under the under the faucet.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Okay, and then I ate my parsnip parsnips, yeah, or
eat him in the parsonage.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
No, I didn't. But you know what, I actually didn't
eat parsnips. And you wouldn't know the difference because people
lie all the time.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Now, did RFK Junior do that or did somebody report
that that happen to try to make RFK look stupid?
I don't know, all right, The Washington Post lean's left
a lot of the time. It would behoove them in
their interest to make RFK look stupid, and also to say,
you know, hey, RFK wants to hop on the Harris bandwagon.
Who knows? Who knows. We're not privy to those conversations.
(11:35):
But if he says specifically I didn't do that, and
he's also this week potentially going to endorse Donald Trump,
it's hard for me to believe that he was asking
Harris just a week ago that was going on Kevin's
on our phone linet four two, five, five, eight to
eleven ten, Kevin, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Just wanted to say I didn't give Lak gives up,
so Pa, I'm gonna stand behind Trump. I think that'll
be the best scene for Trump and the Republican Party
and sense that they need all those votes they can
get yet that are on the line and basically are
the case saying, Hey, the Democratic Party he was part
of his whole life, and when they don't run a
(12:11):
Democratic party by a democratic process, He's like, what I'm
tired of the party? Is what it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
No, and there's no doubt about that. But I'm sure
it's been difficult for him because the rest of the
Kennedy clan basically said they disowned him. They didn't want
him to be a guy who represented that family anymore. Certainly,
he feels like the Democratic Party tried to block him
for any growth because they wanted to protect Biden at
all costs, which we know they do stuff like that.
(12:40):
My biggest thank Kevin for you is is there enough
support with Kennedy right now that would swing that direction
for it to really make a difference.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
That's a good question. I mean, who knows, because the
media is saying every other day, you know, Trump's behind,
then the next day he's ahead, and then Kamali. You
know she was wavey behind. You know, Biden was way behind. Yeah,
and then he takes office and now she's ahead. I
don't believe the polls, but you have to run like
you're behind, as Trump says, but on same tokens, every
(13:10):
vote is going to count. It sounds like if it's
that close.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, you're definitely right. It could make a big difference
at the end of the day, especially in those swing states. Kevin,
thanks for the call.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
You bet, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Thanks. Let's get a pat on the phone line at
four h two, five, five, eight eleven ten. Actually Pat
hung up. Why do people call just to get in
line and then they hang up? It doesn't make any
sense to me if you had to, If you had to,
what's your gut telling you, Matt did RFK Junior ask
the Democrats if he endorsed them, would he be welcomed
(13:41):
back with open arms and potentially get a job in
the cabinet? Do you believe that that happened? The Washington
Post says it did. RFK himself says it did not.
Who do you believe? Who do I believe? And you
got to keep in mind, I keep in mind that
we expect him to endorse Trump. If he drops out
this week.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It doesn't change a whole lot for me whether I
believe that or not, because I don't know, right, we don't.
We were never gonna know no for sure, But I
wouldn't be shocked by it. The guy was a Democrat
for his entire political career, yes, and noted environmentalists. He's
done a lot of work that would fall on more
of you know more. He's definitely more Democrat than Republican
(14:23):
historically as far as his passions in life and the
career he's had and the work he's done. Like to me,
they kind of kicked him out of there when he
ran for president, and so it wouldn't shock me one
bit if he was kind of like, hey, you guys
want to mayakopa, that might win you some votes and
then they said no, and he's like, Okay, you know
what that means, right, M I mean, does that mean
(14:45):
he's two faced?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I don't know. That's why he's playing the game to decide,
or he's playing the game because this is the game.
There's no viability to him at this point as a
third party candidate, so why would he stay there?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Right, and at this point at his age, and he
ran for president because he wants to do something right.
He's seventy years old. So if it was you and
you were in that position, and you could, you could
want you're bargaining for a spot to make a difference.
Does it matter what regime you're on, You're just there
to make a difference.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's an interesting question because it should matter, right the
way we talk about politicians on both sides hating each other,
you would think at some point it should matter that
you belong to one side or the other. This is
one of the things about the current two party system
that I always find interesting is there are plenty of
people out there that have no problems flip in sides
(15:36):
if it makes sense for them in that environment, if
it helps them. They don't pledge allegiance to political parties,
and neither should we. We just like the fact that
we and I say we not as me and you.
We as a society generally like to belong to a team.
We like to root for one side or the other.
(15:57):
You have some bandwagoners that like to kind of stay
flowing in the middle and pick a side that they
think is best at the time has the momentum. There
are a lot of people like that, even in politics.
But people like to see that D and that are
so they know whether or not they're supposed to like you.
And the unfortunate reality of the situation is the politicians
don't see them less themselves that way. They are independent contractors.
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If they want to go up the ladder, like RFK
seemingly wants to do as he enters his early seventies,
he's willing to do it with anyone and everyone who
will give him that opportunity. Is that inherently wrong? I
don't think so. But it definitely goes against the way
that we're seeing politics are versus D, right versus left.
(16:40):
It definitely goes against all that stuff. If you've got
thoughts on this or anything else, you can call us
four h two five five, eight, eleven ten. We'll take
more calls next on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
And he's telling that on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
He's going to talk the way that he said this.
I just want to get it right.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
He will talk about the present historical moment and his
path forward. In an address to the nation earlier this week,
on a podcast episode, Nicole Shanahan, who is his running
mate and on the independent ticket, kind of drop some
breadcrumbs that it might make more sense to support Donald Trump,
drop out of the race, support Trump, and try to
(17:21):
do everything they can to avoid Harrison Walls winning because
they are very bitter about the way that the Democrats
did him dirty. Is what it kind of sounds like
from Nicole's perspective. He also had Brian in the first
half hour remind us that there was a Washington Post article,
and you can believe it or not that RFK Junior
went to the Harris campaign and asked, Hey, if we
(17:43):
drop out and endorse you guys, would there be a
job for us in the administration. According to the Washington
Post article, he was rebuked, turned down, denied, and now
we expect him to drop out and potentially endorse Donald Trump.
So all those factors involved, and also the effect it
could have on the race at hand, we're talking about
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it four roo two five five eight to eleven ten.
You can call this a four row two five to
five eight eleven ten for your perspective on this. And
Eric is on the line. Eric, thanks for calling in today.
What's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Yeah, first off, thanks so much for taking my call
and hosting such a great show that really tries to
get at, you know, what is reasonable in a lot
of these issues, unlike the callers, which are I find
quite entertaining, where they give you half truth and partial things. Anyway,
I appreciate your perspective, and I think on this issue
(18:38):
it's kind of emblematic with Kennedy kind of looking at
the Party of the Democrats of our parents, right, our
parents generation, where the party today, the Democratic Party doesn't
look anything like that. And I think there's a lot
of people who are They may not agree with everything
on both sides of the aisle, but you know, the rational,
reasonable people trying to look at what's happening and saying
(19:00):
this isn't what I'm for. I'm not for, you know,
gender mutilation of teenagers, I'm not for, you know, price controls,
and and you know, changing our fundamentals of our economy
it doesn't make any sense, and against oil exploration and
energy independence and things like that. So I think there's
a lot of people that are looking at, you know,
(19:21):
the choice that we're about to have and saying, you
know that Donald Trump's not perfect certainly he has a
lot of flaws, but his policies make sense, right, They're
common sense. But I think there's a lot of people
that are coming over to that fence, and I really
hope he does endorse Trump to give him that boost,
give him that extra percent or two And I think
there's a lot of people on that on that side
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of the aisle thinking that way.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Now, Yeah, I guess a couple of things. Eric, I'm
with you. I do like to just reiterate this because
it is difficult when you talk about what seems to
be common sense for us, maybe here in the Midwest,
maybe not the exact things that are noticed or are
cared about the same and differ in places. There are
definitely a lot of Democratic voters out there that just
(20:03):
don't care about the same things the same way we do.
So I do fully anticipate there to be tens of
millions of people that are really excitedly going to vote Democrat,
even though it doesn't make a lot of sense for
us where we live. Is the last point you made,
the one or two percent potentially that could help boost
Donald Trump in as close as it seems like some
(20:24):
of these states are, that could be a big help
for him. My question would be, though, who already was
supporting RFK Junior. Was it more Republicans or was it
more Democrats? Because I think that's one of the reasons
why the number dwindled is people kind of ran home
after a while. They recognized that they were a Republican
that didn't want to vote Trump and they wanted to
(20:46):
support a third party candidate that excited them. They're like, oh, yeah, no,
that's cool. Or were they more Democrats who didn't want
Joe Biden that ran to RFK Junior. Then it's as
soon as Biden what his pants on national television and
they decided to make a change, did those people run back?
I'm just not sure how much him supporting Trump is
(21:07):
going to help Trump as much as he potentially is
just going to restore what he already had. What do
you think?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
You know?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
I mean good point. I think there's both. I think
both are true, But I think the overall message is
the Democratic Party is a mess and they seem to
be trying to cater to all of the extremes, and
you have someone who's reasonable and independent making the same
decision that there are probably quite a few independence out
(21:35):
there that are still wrestling with They don't like either candidate,
but which candidate makes more sense for them, And I
think there will be a small shift from an announcement
like that, and it's certainly something Trump will use to
show and highlight. Look, there are people who are moving
to our side for a reason. They're excited about Trump
(21:57):
for a reason. And it's not I just don't like
that that's my reason for voting. It's actual policy reasons.
And I think that's what's going to sway the election
for Trump in his favor. It's the policy decisions that
we still don't even know what come all A stands
for because you don't talk to anybody.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, and that's a good point. But again I said
this again. I hate to sound like a broken record,
but the Democrats are running on personality over politics or policies,
if you will. They want you to feel like they're
the cool kids, that they're the people that you would
like to hang out with, that you are comfortable supporting,
and the policy is all this stuff that goes over
the head of all these young voters or people that
(22:33):
are independents that don't follow politics on a day to
day news cycle. Like we do, Eric, And that's my
biggest fear is that if you're going on you know, personality,
and you're going on vibrant and s year, you're going
on who the cool kids will end up being in
this election, that's an uphill battle for the Republicans as well.
I appreciate this call, Eric, It's been great. Thanks so
much for listening to us, and call us again anytime.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, if you want to call us, you can't four two, five, five,
hit eleven ten. Had a couple of people here, Susan said,
I do have a problem with people who support a
candidate's strictly based on whether they have an R or
a D in front of their name. I have a
problem with what RFK is doing because it shows me
and these are my thoughts. Susan sons that he is
not thinking of backing a candidate based on values or morals,
(23:17):
character and policy, but which one gives him the best deal.
And I think that's wrong. That's what Susan said. It's
kind of part of the game. Though at the end
of the day, right a guy it was completely disenfranchised
and blocked out of the Democratic Party despite belonging to it.
For a long time, many very liberal, left wing Democrats
are looking at him and say, you're not one of us.
(23:38):
You're definitely not somebody that I want to be a
representative of this political party. He says, Okay, fine, you're
going to let me run for president legitimately and get
this primary and caucus season a legitimate one. Then I'm
going to run independent and I'm going to try to
do everything I can to take you down. Now again,
I'm a little skeptical of whether or not he asked
(23:59):
to get back in the mix once Kamala Harris took
over the top of the ticket, like the Washington Post
insinuates that he did a week or two ago. But
him deciding just to swing Republican to take them down,
that's part of the game. Like, I really see that,
especially if he has the opportunity to work in that
administration regardless of political party. It is a thing that
(24:21):
I think Trump can use saying here's a lifelong Democrat
that over the last twelve months has shifted all the
way over to the Republican Party and is endorsing me
a right wing candidate. We have people who care about
policy wanting to do this. I just don't know. For
RFK and Nicole Shanahan, it's about the policy. I think
it's about trying to stick it to the dams. Doug's
on our phone line of four O two five, five,
(24:42):
eight eleven ten, Doug, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (24:46):
That take my call?
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
I's use as a win win for Trump. Basically, if
Kennedy has something to offer, maybe Trump finds the sum
position administration for him. But if not, you can always dismiss.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Them, get rid of him.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
And I think if if Kennedy still has the ability
to pullywork from say one to three percent of the voters,
that's one three percent that Trump cannot afford to lose
this point, and for what it will cost him to
do it, it's very minimal. Secondly, like I said that,
the propaganda value of having a lifelong Democrat switching over
to the Republicans is also very beneficial. Basically it shows
(25:19):
is Democrats have left people, They have deserted the party
name structure they had for generations. Now they've gone to
some weird.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Place in left Land.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
And Kennedy, even though he has some very bizarre views
on a lot of things, a few things I agree
with this as you on vaccines and governmental obstiters and healthcare,
I weer those environmental stuff is way off the wall.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
But you know what, don't as.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Such of energy make me some job that befits his
particular specifications and foibles. And I just don't see it
as a lass. And I think it's only beneficial if
they can use himself.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Right, No, and I agree if you're Donald Trump. There's
nothing but good that comes out of it if you're
a Republican, not just to have his support, but that's
one less thing you have to worry about when it
comes to election days. Split in some votes with Republicans
that would rather vote for RFK than for Trump, maybe
this will bring them back into the fold. I guess
my bigger issue overall isn't necessarily from a Trump perspective
(26:20):
or even this election. It's just what does it say
about our system now that it's really a game that
is to be played by people who are literally just
lobbying for opportunities jobs, and they're willing to flip sides
or jump ship or kiss up to whomever they need
to when we're here fighting basically these tribal wars over
(26:41):
social media and with rhetoric about which side is actually
better for America moving forward, when the allegiances of the
people that are actually the politicians don't even seem to
be within that political party at all. It's more about
themselves and what gives them the best opportunity to do
what they want to do as a career. And that's
where I think the disconnect can even roll out of this.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
The thing you have to realize to people don't talk
about this, but policy has always been about pragmatism. What
we have two parties because we had ten parties like Italy,
we never getything dead.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, no, I.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Get that you have to pick one or the other.
So in sessence here, what what Kennedy is saying is
the Democrats has deserted me. They have left me in
the wilders. They have said that I can't even participate
in their system of trying to become the candidate nominique.
So he's saying, I'm going to something is closer to
what I believe in what they have. Now that doesn't
mean that publicies are great or grand, but it just
(27:33):
means that they are offering more in what he thinks
the system should be. And I have to agree with that.
I think if you can't find the part of you like,
you switch to a different party. But you know it
may mean you change parties a couple times in your life.
I know people who've been Democrats, rempublics and independence in
their lifetime and they have really changed as people. But
the parties have changed what they represent, and so people
(27:54):
have to adjust their perspective.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Right, I'll ast you no, but it's a good point there, Doug,
and thank you so much. We're calling in. I always
like to hear your perspective on things. If you've got
some thoughts, you can call in it. Four two five
five eight eleven ten four h two five five eight
eleven ten. We'll wrap this conversation up and reel in
another third party candidate you may not have heard of
and what their goal is next on news radio eleven
ten kfab Emery Songer share it with someone you on
(28:21):
news radio eleven ten kfab. The Constitution Party. Did you
know that was the thing? The Constitution Party? It's third party.
You're seeing some pictures of old Randall Terry. Oh I'm
seeing a fur coat. Oh yeah, he's a he's an
interesting guy. Well, he's a pro life activist. His whole
thing is the he targets abortion clinics, he blocks interests,
(28:45):
stages protests, and I mean just very radical in his
way and really wants abortion just to be outright banned
across America. Now his strategy. This is a quote from him,
and I bring this up to kind of like fold
into the RFK conversation because this is a third party candidate. Now,
you would think with these really hardcore pro life activism
(29:08):
right or anti abortion or whatever you want to call it,
he's really going to attract people who care about pro
life activism on the right. Who would he be taking
votes from? You think candidates on the right for sure. Yeah,
So here's my mission is still the same. This is
Randall Terry talking. My mission is still the same, and
(29:29):
that it's to make it a criminal act to kill
a human being from conception until birth. For that to happen,
you have to be in the political realm. You have
to be a lawmaker. I'm not going to win the presidency.
I'm not running to win. I'm running to be the
margin of defeat in the swing states. Because I'm a
federal candidate, I can run television. Adds sixty days from
the election, and the TV stations are required by law
(29:49):
to take them, so I can target Catholic and African
American voters in Wisconsin, in Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Now, he continues,
my candidacy is based around the three ds. Defend children,
defeat the Democrat nominee, destroy the Democrat Party. That's the mission.
And for every one voter that leaves voting for Trump
for me, there will be twenty that leave the Democrats
(30:11):
because of the way our ads are targeted and because
of our messaging. Oh boy, do you believe him? Do
you think for every one Trump voter that votes for him,
that twenty Democrat voters will leave that party and not
vote for Harris because of how powerful his anti abortion
or pro life ads are in those swing states. I
(30:34):
haven't seen any of these ads. Well, they can only
run sixty days out. Were not quite there yet, so
with zero reference can't It would only be in Wisconsin, Michigan,
and Pennsylvania. So there's a good chance we would have
to go on the internet to see it. But at
the same time, you really think somebody on the left
already is going to change their mind about abortion because
(30:54):
of Randall Terry's advertising.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
This seems to be an attempt at pandering in a
certain way that's gonna I think it's gonna hurt him.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Skeptical. I think it's gonna hurt his overall cause more
than it's gonna help would be my fear. If there's
any vote splitting to go on with him involved, it's
gonna be Republicans that really care about pro life more
than anything else. And Donald Trump says it's a states
rights issue. This guy says at the federal level, I'm
gonna take it out. They may vote for him. That
(31:28):
would be dangerous for the Republicans. So keep an eye
on Randall Terry, the crazy guy who's in charge of
the Constitution Party. We'll have more for you on news
radio eleven to ten kfab
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