Apparently We're Still Talking About Migrants Eating Pets

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On this debate that we saw last night, the vice
presidential debate between Tim Walls and JD.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Vance.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
I was personally very pleased with the way that things went.
As far as the civility between the two candidates, I
was very pleased with the fact that they talked mostly
about policy. I didn't have a huge issue with the moderators,
although it did feel like at times they, you know,
were leaning a little bit more towards the Democratic side

(00:25):
in the way that they were responding to certain things.
But they also held Tim Wall's feet to the fire
a couple of times as well, which I thought was
important for the fairness of what we were talking about here.
I want your opinions. You can call us at four
oh two five five eight eleven ten. Four oh two,
five five, eight eleven ten is the number Steven is
on the phone line. Stephen, welcome to our show today.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, what you do said, I totally agree. It was
refreshing to see some stability between the two candidates, and
I thought they were they handled themselves well one time
at as far as the trip.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
To China were walled.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I don't know why people are making such a big
issue of that, it didn't impact anybody, and so what
if he had the date wrong? To me, what is
more disturbing is what Trump advanced did to the community
of Springfield in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, okay, So a few different ways to unpack this, Stephen.
The first thing about the Teneman Square thing, I don't
know if it's about as much of like, hey, it
doesn't impact anybody as much as it was a blatant lie, right,
Like people who are in that position are held to

(01:49):
a certain standard of accountability.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
It reminded me of Brian Williams.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
You remember him, the news anchor who said he was
in certain spots in the Middle East covering, you know,
military action, and it was proven that he was not there.
He had been lying about what he was doing. And
we live in an era now where we can learn
about that stuff. You can't just telp you like I'm
not going to come on this show, and you should
hold me accountable if I ever were to do this.

(02:15):
But I could tell you that, yeah, I was there,
and I I met President Trump and I got to
play some golf with him, and we were talking about
different political things. And here's what he said kind of thing, right,
It's such a dumb thing to do to make it
seem like you have seen important events or you have
experienced important events to make you seem more electable. That

(02:36):
was what he was going for in that regard, and
then he tried to dance around that when he was
pushed on that by the moderators last night, and then
eventually just had to admit that he misspoke and called
himself a knucklehead. You know, I'm not saying that people
can't make mistakes. I'm just saying that was blatantly a mistake. Now,
as far as the Springfield, Ohio situation, I've been on

(03:00):
Stephen and hopefully you've been able to hear us talk
about that over the last month or so that I
think it's absolutely incredulous that this is a story that
got out. I think the bigger issues that we should
be focusing on our fitinyl and some of the other
big issues that have been happening across our border. And
what Trump advance did to kind of perpetuate the rumors

(03:23):
about dogs and cats being fried up by illegal Haitian
immigrants in a small town like Springfield, Ohio, and is
something that I have no idea how that broke into
the mainstream, especially when there wasn't concrete evidence that stuff
was happening. I'm on record as to saying that at
the same time. At the same time, we need to

(03:43):
understand that Jade Vance even himself said very specifically that
this is a conversation that he's had to perpetuate, the
conversation about what the perils of immigration are. And I'm
not cool with that either. I think that we need
to talk about things in a factual sense, and we
need to hold both parties accountable for that. Now that's
not to say that there aren't actual concerns about stuff

(04:05):
like that, but I do think it's important for us
to be holding our elected officials accountable for either fabricating
the truth or embellishing the truth. I need to understand
that these people see us and respect us and our intelligence,
and I just don't feel like that's always taken place.
And that's why I have a big problem not just

(04:26):
with what jd Van's like what you said in Donald
Trump talking about Springfield, Ohio, but when I have another
vice presidential candidate trying to lie to me about what
he's experienced in his life to make himself more electable.
I think he deserves to be ridiculed for that as well.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, because they you're up to knit that they blatantly
lived about this, the Asians, and because the community was
walking in those people to try to get their economy
kick started, and they said that they had no problems
with the ass at all.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
And they and they also said that they were legal.
The elected, the mayor there, the police chief there, the
governor of Ohio all said that those were legal people.
I'm with you, Steven, We're seeing everything eye to eye
on the Springfield thing. I'm also just saying that I
think it is a big deal that Tim Walls would
try to light to us and say that he's experienced
things in China, especially that he didn't actually experience, And

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I think it's important for us to hold them accountable
for those lives as well.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Can we agree on that?

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Also, hold Trump and Van's accountable for lying about the
cats and dogs.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
And I'm trying to do that too, Steven. Hopefully you're
picking up on that.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I'm trying to hold everybody accountable for lying. I appreciate
you calling in and being a part of that. We
did that right and I'm not saying that he's accusing
us of not doing that. But we sat here on
this show basically saying, why are we spending all this
time talking about that? And we're talking about it because
it was a big deal, But I was kind of
talking about it from the perspective of there are so
many other ways and angles about this specific issue that

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we can talk about this. And who is hearing this
story about the Springfield cats and dogs and geese and
all that stuff. Hearing that story and all of a
sudden being like, oh, yeah, now I think illegal immigrations
a real big problem, you know what I mean. I
don't think anybody changed their mind based on those conversations.
I think it's fitanl. I think it's crime. I think

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it's illegal arms pedaling, human trafficking. Those are the things
that you can really make a conversation of, not legal
immigrants from a different culture that have taken up a spot.
And again, Springfield has issue. Anytime that you add twenty
thousand people over a short period of time to any town,
it is going to stretch out its infrastructure.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
Yeah, I mean, you hear about the same thing like
Staten Island back in the eighteen hundreds The Gangs in
New York, you know, go back and watch that movie.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah. Well, and is this Scorsese.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
I think so, Yeah, that's good. I know it's Leonardo DiCaprio.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, of course, Sacy, Yeah, that's good stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
But at the same time, I'm also trying to understand,
you know, how we can talk about this stuff and
understan like again, you're not going to get the lying
out of politicians. There is fabrication and embellishment in politics
literally since before we had a government. That was happening
when we were still under Britain rule. That's never going

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to go away. It's blatantly lying about stuff. Matt, How
important do you think that thing? Like you went to
school for you know, radio and broadcasting and stuff. It's
not quite a journalism degree, but you learn about journalistic ethics.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
I took one journalism class, but they teach you about ethics, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
And the important thing about ethics as far as journalism
is concerned, is that you have to be factual and truthful.
How big of a deal is it when somebody like
Brian Williams, former NBC news anchor, basically straight up tells you, hey, yeah,
I was covering the Iraq War in Afghanistan and then
he actually was not there. I think that that's important
for us because that person loses one hundred percent credibility

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when they do something like that. And if it was
somebody like me that said something like I would never
do that, first of all, because I mean I, especially
in the social media age, you're not going to get
away with that. But even more importantly, I think it's
important for people to trust you. I like to trust
other people, and that's kind of my thought on it.
If you got thoughts on anything that we're talking about

(08:25):
in regards to the vice presidential debate, please let us know.
Four oh two five five eight to eleven ten is
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I wasn't moved too much about the minimal chatter they
had on the debate last night about Springfield, although in
that moment jd Vance kind of jumped at the moderators

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who were trying to fact check him about the legality
or legal status of the Haitian immigrants in Ohio, which
are legal according to the Ohio government. And he said,
I'm sorry the rules were that you weren't going to
fact check. I thought that was a pretty funny thing
for him to say in that moment, and kind of
as it gotcha to the moderators as well, kind of

(09:06):
holding them accountable for the rules that we were all
under the impression that that was going to be taking place.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, we're still talking about that too.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
If you want to four h two five five eight
eleven ten, it's the number four oh two five five
eight eleven ten. Karin is on the phone line. Karin,
thanks so much for being a part of our show today.
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (09:23):
Well, not to be the dead horse, but this is
what I heard about the spring Child thing.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (09:30):
Sendo Fans is a senator for Ohio, and the people
in Springfield were calling his office about the animal thing.
Yeah right, and they said that some of the facts
in the town were missing. M And I don't know
that much about patients cultural habits as far as what

(09:55):
they eat and what they don't. I do know I've
been to Mexico and seeing dog purcases hanging in their windows,
so I know that there are cultures that eat dogs
and cats, right, So I don't know, and the Haitians
may be different for their children to eat. I have

(10:16):
no idea, but I just thought, you know, I don't
think Senator Vance was irresponsible in bringing that to the
table if that was what was happening in his office
that people were calling in.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah and yeah, And I don't disagree, Karin.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I think that it's important to, you know, take your
constituent's words for what they are. I agree with that.
But when the mayor of that town, the police chief
of that town, the governor, which is also a Republican
of that state, I'll say those are legal immigrants. We
have not heard anything or seen any of them at

(11:00):
This is stuff that is being talked about. And I'm
not saying that it's not one hundred percent accurate or whatever.
I'm not in Ohio for obviously, I'm not in Ohio.
But I do think that it is important that there
are elected officials that were asked point blank about that
that are in Springfield and JD. Vance, all due respect,
is also in Washington, d C. Full time. He's not

(11:21):
in Springfield, Ohio. And the elected officials who are, they're
including their police chief, their mayor, and a Republican governor
all refute those reports. That makes JD, that makes Donald Trump,
that makes the Republican Party who brought this to light
look kind of foolish. And that's the unfortunate reality because
the people who want to oppose them, or even the

(11:43):
people who aren't like super strongly picking one side or
the other, yet have legitimate people in Ohio saying that
that's not necessarily the case, that whether it's happening or not,
damages JD and Donald's reputation.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 7 (12:00):
That does make sense?

Speaker 5 (12:02):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, and I appreciate you bringing up Yeah, I appreciate
you bringing that part up to because that's exactly how
they started. It was his constituents calling him and telling
him that was happening. That's exactly how it started. Yeah,
appreciate the call for.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
You have a great show.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Thank you so much for listening. I think that's the
best way to say it, right, even if it is happening,
or there's a couple of specific insists of that happening,
when the police chief and the mayor who are in Springfield,
and the Republican governor of that state all refute that
story and report, no matter if it's happening or not.

(12:43):
That's going to damage the reputation of JD Vance Donald
Trump when they try to make it sound like that's
one hundred percent happening. You know what I'm saying, even
if it is happening in a couple of instances, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (12:55):
Well, this is what I think of when I hear
you say that. It's a sign of the communication issues
and the trust issues that we're having right now in society.
Who do you trust more a random Twitter account or
your local politician. If people are having issues with that,
then we've got some trust issues embedded in the fabric
of this society. And who do you trust more on?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
To bring this to light if it was actually happening,
right the mayor of Springfield is not going to be
saying this on national television even if it was happening.
It's going to make him and his city look stupid.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
The Republican governor of Ohio also is going to be
pretty protective of saying this isn't happening in Ohio. Please
don't think that Ohio was like this. He would have
skin in the game to not say that stuff, right.
But I also tend to think that those are people
that would know more about it than JD. Vans who's
in Washington, DC, or people like us who are sitting
four states away. But again that creates that dichotomy of like, okay,

(13:50):
so which side of this do you trust more? That's
the unfortunate thing. Andy's on the line. He wants to
talk about this debate from last night. Andy thinks for
the call today, what's on your mind?

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I heard it.

Speaker 8 (14:00):
Caller earlier mentioned the fact that eating some dogs, and
I just wanted to bring out the fact that I
was in China and visited two wet markets about seventeen
years ago where they had scalded dogs for food and
cages of cats packed too so they couldn't even move,

(14:21):
and they were for food. And there is nothing in
that country that they don't eat. You could walk walk
the streets of Guanzhou and never see a pharaoh or
a pigeon.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
They eat everything.

Speaker 8 (14:34):
So it does happen in other countries, and it's a
possibility it could have happened there.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, no, And I'm with you, and I've read a
lot of stuff about, you know, the eating of dogs
in other Asian countries suicid just China, you know, Korea
notorious for you know, basically using dogs as livestock. You know,
Japan they eat horses. They have eaten racehorses that were
out to stud, like famous racehorses, and once they stopped

(15:00):
being a stud. They don't understand concept of having animals
as pets or having animals and just allowing them to live.
That's just like their functionality, right, Those animals have a purpose.
If they're not doing the purpose that they have, then
we're going to harvest them in some way for their parts.
That's just the way. The rest of this happened at

(15:22):
a zoo in Germany. Once there was a This wasn't
all that long ago, just within the last twenty years.
There was a giraffe at a zoo in I think
it was Germany, and that giraffe genetically didn't have the
right genetic makeup to continue to breed. And that doesn't
sound like much, but for zoos like that's the whole point.
They want to strengthen the genetic pool of these endangered animals.

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This giraffe was not going to be able to mate
with any other giraffe and strengthen the genetic pool. So
instead of just letting him live somewhere else or having
him in an enclosure, they killed him. They euthanized him.
He was only a few years old, but they ethanized
to a huge public outcry of why did you do that?
They're not even thinking about like those repercussions. So we,

(16:07):
I think, are the United States. We look at things
the way that we see things, and we have a
hard time understanding other cultures. And I think that's our
fault in a lot of ways. And I had a
caller didn't want to go on the air, but talked about, Hey,
when immigration happened one hundred years ago, two hundred years ago,
and people were coming to our country either to work
or to live, they assimilated to the way that we
were living. And I don't disagree that. You know, there

(16:29):
can be some meeting in the middle, but we have
to also discuss I think the.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Proper way to.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
How do I say this properly, the way that we
can be respectful of people and where they come from,
because we didn't I mean until four hundred years ago,
we didn't have white people settling on this continent either.
So I think that that's important for us to understand
that we can't just be expecting other people who come
to our country and force them to understand how we

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live and speak our languages and change everything about the
way that they're living. I think there's a middle grand
that we can meet there, and we just have a
hard time, I think, understanding where other countries come from,
especially when we talk about certain animals as livestock. There's
no doubt that that happens in other places of the world.
I appreciate the call, Andy, and it's an interesting discussion

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to have. It's just not something we think about in
America these days. Three twenty seven's the time. We'll take
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Speaker 2 (17:33):
And Marie Sung on News Radio eleven ten Kfab, John,
Welcome to our show today. What's on your mind?

Speaker 9 (17:43):
Thanks, Emory, No problem, Hey, I want to do I
want to detour back. You had talked about the comments
that Donald Trump and JD. Vanson made about the Ohio
community that has had the Haitian issues come up with
regards to animals, just to give a little perspective on that.

(18:07):
I'm retired now and I stay in touch with a
half a dozen of my buddies the email, and they're
kind of spread out all over the Midwest. And one
of the guys down in Springfield is actually volunteered and
traveled with Samaritan's Purse in the past. And soon after
that original story came out, Bill sent a note tall
of us and looked and he had gone down to

(18:29):
Haiti when they'd had the problems with the hurricane down
there and so forth, and he became aware of the
Haitian voodoo culture. And I guess I would just encourage
everyone just take a few minutes. I was online fifteen
minutes that night looking and basically the interaction they have

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with animals in their rituals and so forth culminate in
eating the animal, which basically brings the ultimate blessings to
you in this voodoo culture. I was a complete I
was a complete version of this all that didn't.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Know anything about it.

Speaker 9 (19:05):
And I was enlightened one night about that and didn't
think more about it. And then there's been obviously quite
a bit of controversy with people. I think maybe speaking
without a little bit of background. Certainly the perspective is
just with regards to the Voodoo culture. I'm not trying
to yeah, you know, blanket on the whole Haitian community
in Ohio or anything. Yeah, but there's something there that's

(19:27):
I think valid and for people to better understand. As
you alluded to just before the break there when I
was on hold, you know, one has to respect other cultures. Well,
this one's a little bit different than most of us
would perhaps proffer, you know, yeah, given our American upbringing,
but it's different. And if there's fifteen thousand people there,

(19:49):
there's some portion of them that are probably practicing the
Haitian Voodoo culture. And my guess is that's where these
instances that were witnesses have come from.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
So yeah, it's a good point, John, and I appreciate
you for giving us your expertise on this.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Thanks for calling in today.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
You got it stick.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, and not to and again I'm not like we
don't have to keep talking about this, but just to
you know, understand other cultures. And I get it, there's
going to be stuff that every culture does that year
is kind of head scratching, right, Like we talked about
Jehovah's witnesses not wanting to celebrate Halloween. They think Halloween

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is like not to steal a line from the water Boy,
but it's the devil, right.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
I do believe it has its roots there.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Okay, all right, I didn't ask to be fact checked here, mister,
But seriously, like the whole whole thing right, that there
are people that just live life differently in America is
a big melting pot and an experiment, if you will,
of all these different cultures combined. It is incredibly unique
on a worldwide level with how many different cultures are
in different pockets and how differently a lot of places

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in this country operate. It's really if you can learn
how to appreciate what we have in the United States
and embrace some of those differences. That's, you know, one thing,
people having their pet stolen, being eaten. That is quite
a big leap to be making in that situation. And
you know, you know what I'm saying, and I'm not
trying to discount anybody who said that they saw that

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happen or they had that happen. I still need to
lean on the information that we've received from people who
are elected officials in Springfield who have said that this
isn't necessarily a problem they are concerned with or that
they have seen themselves. I had a person email once
again talking about that video that went around to the
woman who was eating the cat. You can see on

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the like she's being charged with killing and trying to
eat a cat. It's on a body camp. That is
a native Ohio woman who was born and raised in Ohio.
She is not Haitian. And you know what ends up
happening there. She's from Canton, Ohio. She got in trouble.
This is not the same thing. They're drawing lines to

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something that was an unrelated thing with an unrelated person
to that conversation. So there's a lot more to this
story than just like, hey, you know what, the Haitians
do have some weird voodoo stuff that they do. I'm
not denying that, and I'm not saying that that's not
something that could be happening over there. But based on
what we're hearing, these are legal migrants that are working
in Springfield, and all of the ELECTI officials say that

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this isn't a problem.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
That they're worried about for whatever reason.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
Just to tie a couple of these together and put
a bow on top. What sort of Halloween costumes are
you expecting that might be a newsworthy based around this news,
possibly in a couple of weeks from now.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
A half fried cat.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
Seems to be a pretty, you know, easy one to
go to. Or maybe just like you bring your dog
to the party and you just like the dog.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
The dog already is like like what you like, looks
like they're prepared for like in the process, put my
dog in a burrito.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, oh there it is. That's good.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
Yeah, him a little like burrito godstub.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
No, I'm not doing that stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Joe's on our phone line of four oh two, five,
eight to eleven ten, Joe, what's up?

Speaker 4 (23:08):
You know, listening to you. Since he came back on
the air after the break, I would say, don't discount
a onesie twosie because if it's your pets that was
the onesie twosie, you'd be up in arms.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, I mean I'm knowing that obviously.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
It's a statement.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Listening to the debate last night, yeah, and tampon Timmy
telling us about fifty languages being spoken in one school.
I think if we put him in office. We may
be taking a step closer to having a little race
horse of giraffe on them on the menu here in
Nebraska or anywhere else in the US.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Well, you certainly know how to prepare.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
If with all that time he spent in China, you'd think, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I think think I think he's too close to enjoying
the peed to people. I think the peed of people
would definitely not have a not be interested in any
of that. But either way, no, I appreciate the call, Joe,
thanks for listening to us actually pushing.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
More towards us accepting than them assimilating.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I think yeah, And I agree with that too. I
think there's and I appreciate the call Joe. Assimilation is
incredibly controversial. I would highly recommend. Here's a book for you,
The Real All Americans. Sally Jenkins, great sports writer. She
wrote a book called The Real All Americans. It's about

(24:37):
the Carlisle Indian School, which was one of many Indian
schools around this country which popped up in the eighteen sixties, seventies,
and eighties as America was going west to manifest destiny,
if you will, and Native Americans were either basically having
their land kind of taken away from them, or they

(24:58):
were being kind of pushed into smaller spaces. The white man,
if you will, to use that term, in the military
out of the Civil War as we were moving west,
was trying to really enforce a lot of that stuff,
and there were a lot of treaties that were broken.
At the same time, the Native Americans realized in a

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lot of ways that this is not a winning battle
for us. The best thing that we could possibly do
is help out with understanding how we can get our
kids to be educated and be able to live a
prosperous life in America in the future. And reading that book,

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there are many many major chiefs of major tribes that
did that. Assimilation was something that they also believed in.
They wanted their culture to stay alive, but they understood
that they were going to need to meet in the
middle somewhere if their kids in the future generations of
their tribe were going to be able to survive in

(26:03):
this the America that it was going to become. And
they understood that, and they wanted to send their kids
to these Indian schools, if you will, that's what they
were called. That's maybe not the most PC way to
describe them. But that is an incredibly important factor to
this conversation, knowing that in the past that was a

(26:25):
way that different cultures were kind of meshing and melting
in together. Nowadays you speak of assimilation. It is incredibly
non PC. Now, I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
I'm just saying that there should be some compromising with
people coming to our country. They want to keep their
culture alive. I'm totally okay with that, but they have
to deal within the confines of the culture that already

(26:46):
exists in the infrastructure we currently already have coming to
the United States of Americans starting to grill up dogs
and cats. If that is something that is happening with
the Haitians in Ohio or anyone else, I think we
probably need to be educating them that that's just not
necessarily something that's legal or you can do here. We
have rules to protect the animals, and also we have

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rules about you know, stealing other people's animals. Fair I
think so, like, for example, if your culture dictates that
women are not allowed to drive, you're going to have
to assimilate in America because they can here.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
And that's totally.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Fine, boom, nice good job. Not actually on a grill
roasted different thing that we're talking about. Ben's on the line. Ben,
welcome to the show today. You got some thoughts on
this today?

Speaker 10 (27:35):
Hey, thanks Emory. Yeah, I'm calling in about the single
largest topic I think that we miss out on is
the the economics of the country. I mean, we are, like,
regardless of all the social issues and all that stuff,
people can't afford milk or you know, the bulf of bread,

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who cares about what gender they think they are or
whatever that is. I mean, that's once you get to
the economics figured out, then we can worry about the
social things. That's my point view.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, and I'm one hundred percent in favor Ben. That's
the most important thing to me. It's a lot less
sexy to talk about for these candidates as they try
to get themselves elected, and both of them say that
they have the plan to get prices lower. It's funny
because you know, one of the people running for office
is a person that's been in the administration and in
the White House for the last four years. I don't
know how different she's going to, you know, create in

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the policies in which to lower those prices for us
and try to, like she says in her commercials, help
us get ahead. But that's I guess a bigger statement
to this conversation is that the moderators last night, the
people of America, even the candidates themselves, want to lean
more on immigration and foreign policy and talking about cats
and dogs getting eaten in Springfield, Ohio, then talking about

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our wallets and the way that we can afford simple
things like groceries or be able to you know, heat
or air condition our homes without breaking the bank. You know,
we should be able to cut energy prices in half
in this country from what they've been the last few years.
That's just not happening right now. Ben appreciate you calling in.
If you want to call any canto row two five, five,
eight to eleven ten. We'll have more calls on the
way on news radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
And raised honor on news radio eleven ten, KFAB.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
We're talking about it with you. Four two five to five,
eight eleven ten is the number we have. Lee on
the line. Lee, welcome to the show. What's on your mind?

Speaker 11 (29:24):
I am Rinie, thank you my call. I thought Advanced
did a very good job. I will say I'm partial,
but right out of the box, I think he was presidential.
In fact, I would feel very comfortable with someone like
him running and operating the country. One thing, though, that
I wished he would have commented on more clearly and succincully,
is the fact that this so called border bill, at

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the bipartisan support that they've talked about, it's really not
a border bill. It is a bill that would allow
people to enter the United States illegally to the tune
of five to ten thousand a day. And the funding,
if you will, goes into hiring people not to interdict
illegals coming in. The funding goes to processing them so

(30:10):
that they can enter in the country. This whole thing
about a border security is a made up problem. We
don't have to have this problem. We don't need funding
really to address it. We need to enforce the laws
that say people have a certain process, which my wife
followed when she got into the United States to get here.

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And if you don't follow that process, what are you
saying to the people who do? And so we have
created a we have created chaos. We've got maybe thirty
million vans that it was twenty to twenty five. My
numbers have shown that it's much higher than that. We're
opening up a can of worms, and we're also offering

(30:53):
to people just to come here freebies, free housing, welfare,
free food. Those are the kinds of perks that we're
giving and we're not even supporting our all people in
a way that is that should be done.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (31:08):
Well, my comments on the border is this is a
completely made up problem. It doesn't need to exist, and
the fact that it exists, it exists only because it's
been created. We don't have to deal with it.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you, Lee.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
There's much better ways to handle this, and this has
not been a problem really to this extent since this
administration has been in control.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
And that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
We'll see if you know what the logistics look like,
regardless of who wins. Let's get to ron real quick
before we hit the top of the hour run. What
do you got on this debate last night?

Speaker 5 (31:43):
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. It was refreshing to
see I'm not disparaging each other and glaring at each
other this type of thing.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Just you know, about immigration and rejecting immigrants and stuff
that's that's not a new thing, but heck, they used
to do it to the Irish people. I mean it was
like these put up signs that dogs and Irish keep
off the grass or if there's a job, Irish needed
not apply. And in nineteen sixty Kennedy was elected. People

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were amazed that a Roman Catholic would be elected president
of the United States. So it's not such a new thing.
But I think the thing to really recognize what is
the problem that instead of us arguing about dogs and
cats and that type of stuff, it's you know, that's
a little it was done for us to bring it up.
First of you know, I'm planted, but it's for it

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to be brought up in the first place. And then
that's being used as something to beat somebody over the
head with. But the thing, I think the thing we
need to recognize why was this Why was this problem
created the first day? Why was the border opened up?
And it was you know, the basic thing behind it
for people to understand is that all these communities that

(32:58):
that were losing population, the larger cities, people are moving
out because of the poor administration and that type of thing.
The bad things that are having. Yeah, they were going
to lose representation in Congress, and when they count those
the population, they don't care if your citizen or not,
they still count to And so what they're trying to

(33:19):
do by being sanctuaries is to keep their population up
so they don't lose memberships in Congress, and also hoping
that later these people will vote, be able to vote
in the elections for their sons.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah, I'm hearing all this, Ron, and it's a really
good point, and I appreciate you calling in and bringing
this up.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I think he's right.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
We kind of sensationalization of what the topics of the
day are is the unfortunate reality in which we exist in.
We live in a we need to get clicks, we
need to get ratings, we need to get attention. And
that isn't just from the network specifically, this is also
from the politicians themselves, and they want to say things,

(34:01):
bring things up that is going to gather and gain attention,
even if some of those situations in an unfortunate world,
and that's unfortunately the world that we live in. A
lot of that stuff isn't necessarily what should be the
crux of the conversation. But we're so far apart politically
that it's hard to find those middle grounds that we

(34:21):
can get both sides talking about it constructively. What do
we have to do to get both sides talking about
something like immigration constructively? And it's because one side doesn't
think it's a problem, on the other side thinks it's
a massive problem. How do we educate people to understand
how big of a problem it is?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Got plenty more for you, four o'clock hour on Deck,
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