Election Integrity

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fifteen days to election day. Kamala Harris doing the Blue
Wall tour today Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, all on the same day.
Hillary Clinton got kind of hammered by Ponditza after the
twenty sixteen elections, saying she just didn't spend enough time
and took for granted that states like Wisconsin, Michigan, and

(00:20):
Pennsylvania were all hers and that turned out not to
be the case. It feels like Kamala is spending much
more time there than she is the other states. But remember,
we did this, we did this, we did this guestimation.
It's not really guesstimation. Let's just pretend this fifty or sorry,

(00:41):
the forty three states that we think we know is
going to happen happens. Right. If Kamala wins Michigan, Wisconsin,
in Pennsylvania and also holds everything that we think is blue,
including the second Congressional District of Nebraska, which is the
Omaha area, Donald Trump can win the other four swing

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states Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. And if that happens,
Kamala wins, that gets her to two seventy. She's kind
of putting way more of her eggs into those baskets
than she is. I don't even like, when was the
last time that she was actively campaigning in Nevada Arizona, right, like,

(01:28):
you don't really? Yeah, I haven't been hearing her over
there nearly as much as Michigan, Pennsylvania and even Wisconsin.
So it'll be interesting to see because that's the strategy, right, Yeah, sure,
you want to try to be the president for everyone,
but what's the realistic nature of that. You really just
need two hundred and seventy electoral College votes to win,

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and does it matter how you get those or that
you just get those? That's the way the system is.
Just win the right combination of states to get you
to two seventy and you're in. And based on everything
that we know, based on the way the map lines up,
if she wins those three states, it's over unless something

(02:13):
else crazy happens. What do you think? Yeah, makes sense
to me? Yeah, me too, Me too. It's interesting. I
think this is the part that of an election that
a lot of us don't understand. A lot of us
don't don't think necessarily about what the what the pieces

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of the puzzle look like, because too many people think
that something that we think we know isn't necessarily true.
So I use the website two seventy to win, which
kind of does this? I use five thirty eight. I
get as many updated like like, as many updated things

(03:04):
what's the word updated polls pulling something like those kinds
of things, and I look at them as you know,
incomplete projects, if you will. It's really not to me, like, yeah,
of course these aren't the actual results, but they give

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you a good idea as to what's happening. And you
have to like, there's only one Kamala Harris, There's only
one Tim Walls. Barack Obama's like out doing rallies in
the campaign trail. He is in Arizona, So I mean
there's him showing up per a campaign rally. But there's
only one of those people you have to be. And
then this is the thing, like if you expanded this

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all of a sudden to like where we think it
should go, where the districts all pick themselves like Nebraska
does across the entire country, could you imagine what the
race for that would be? How crazy that be? I
mean you would have to visit a lot more places,
like you'd really have to be a little bit more

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like intelligent about the way that you would go about campaigning,
because it's not just winner take all in a state.
It's like, Okay, Wisconsin has ten electoral votes, but eight
of those are districts that are separated, and then one
is you know, the Senate essentially, which counts the entire

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entirety of the state. If that's how that works, man,
I better make sure that I pick up five or
six of those eight possible electoral votes in those districts.
You can't just show up to Milwaukee once a week
and expect to win or Madison. Same thing with Michigan Detroit. Right,

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there's an awful lot of districts in the state of Michigan.
Thirteen of them you'd have to go visit going to
try to win all of them. Yeah, it makes things
a little bit weird, But you're also not going to
see the Republican win all forty of Texas and you're
not going to see the Democrat win all fifty four
of California. So there would be some give and take there,
and you'd have to really like crunch the numbers to

(05:15):
do the math. But the way that it's set up
now her campaign strategy three states in one day, Wisconsin, Michigan,
and Pennsylvania, and if you make those things blue and
after that, that's two seventy Based on what the map is,
she doesn't even need to win Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, or

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North Carolina. Now, I want to go ahead and get
into this conversation as to what exactly is going to
happen in two weeks in one day? How confident are
you that the results are going to be all right?
And by all right not necessarily like, hey, you know,

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win or lose the Republican candidate, Ormocratic candidate, no matter
what happens. Like I'm all like, I'm good or I'm
not good. That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about.
Do you trust that we're not going to have questions
about the legitimacy of this election because every state, as
you read about, every state is trying to give its
people as much confidence that hey, you don't have to
worry about a darn thing with this. We we promise you.

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If that's the case, do you believe them? Call us
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Speaker 2 (06:45):
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Speaker 1 (06:49):
How do you feel about this election? Got an email here?
And this isn't necessarily about the results specifically, It's about
the It's about out your confidence that the process is okay.
You were alive in two thousand. I was. I was
alive and kicking. Do you remember what happened there? Like,

(07:14):
I have vague memories because I was barely ten years
old when this happened. But I mean, it took us
days to really understand what the heck happened. They had
to do a full on recount in the state of Florida.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, I think Florida was voting with a weird like alligator.
They were using alligators to cast their votes. Oh yeah,
and I think they were like counting the alligator's teeth
and it was it was a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Leave it to Florida.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Well tell me, some guy named Chad was doing something
I can't remember exactly, Chad a very two thousand name.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I just think about two thousand,
Florida was up for grabs. Couldn't imagine that now, huh.
Greg emailed then and said, the bottom line is the
Democratic Party will do whatever it takes to win, and
the problem is the media and the courts in this
country will let them do whatever they want with no repercussions.

(08:06):
I don't know, like we have to be on our
toes right because there have been questions about the results
of an election before, and obviously twenty twenty we had
a lot of questions about the election. People had questions
in twenty sixteen. They did they investigated Russia for two
years to try to figure out what the heck happened.

(08:28):
Is there ever going to be a time where we can't, like,
where we can fully feel like everybody's going to be like,
you know what, scoreboard, scoreboard, It's going.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
To take some technological intervention. I think I just think
that we've exited a time where I don't know, I
just don't I just don't see it happening either side.
I think that there's.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah, I just don't see it, or we somehow
get past when we get past Trump thing, because I
don't know, like, will this kind of what's the word
political climate of this country if it stays the same

(09:15):
after Trump, Like, what's the likelihood of that happening. We
saw a debate without Trump involved that was Walls Advance,
and it just kind of felt like an old school
we don't actually hate each other debate. Most people were like, oh, yeah,
you know, like these are two guys that showed up

(09:35):
interested in respecting each other and not calling each other names,
a little more civilized, and the ratings were a lot
worse because of that. I mean, let's be realistic. As
much as people want to talk about, Oh, I hate
the political climate of this country, nobody we have not
as a collective society paid more attention to it than
we do right now. And people watched Jerry Springer too

(09:58):
exactly at the same time, I hate that we feel
like there is a lack of confidence in our process.
Maybe if we get past like this Trump thing and
politics kind of settles back into the proper spot of
our nation that it belongs and people realize that not
everything has to be like this political hot button issue.

(10:21):
Literally everything's a political hot button issue. Now, is there
a chance that we get like a landslide victory sometimes
where we fully expect to Ronald Reagan eighty four reelection situation,
I mean, you want to all but one state. I

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don't know if it'll ever be that bad again, but
somebody to get to like three hundred and forty electoral votes,
like we're not talking about skimp into two seventy. I
think it's good that it's competitive. I also think that
it lends itself to the fact that, oh, well, we're
just gonna blame the system if we lose in both sides.
I have that in their back pocket, Like I'm not

(11:02):
accepting these results.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I think there's a lot of unique about this time too,
in that we are an older country than we've ever been.
Because here's the good news. Life expectancy is way better
because we've invented all kinds of amazing technologies and drugs
and vitamins, and it's just a better time to be
alive to no longer.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
We know more about what not to do to our
bodies when we're younger, which gives us longevity later.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
But that means but also that with all of the
extra technology we've just ever since the Industrial Revolution, we've
just been in a technology boom.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I mean, have you seen that.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
I saw this on Twitter the other day, the space
between changes in transportation technology, Like a couple hundred years ago,
it was horse and buggy, a couple thousand years before that,
basically the same thing, but in the span of the
then to now look at what we've gone.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
To the moon. That's a really interesting point. I don't
think we're going to Are we going to keep at
this rate? I don't think so. Well, you figured we
will run out of the opportunity of like exactly what
to do, right, Like some people are going up to space,
but for what to experience space? Yeah? Now can we
live on space? Elon says, Mars is going to save
humanity at some point, and there's a chance that that happens.

(12:23):
I'm not saying that there's not a chance that that happens.
It's just we're far away from that happening after that. Okay, So, like,
what's the big question that you would have about you know, hey,
what's the next election technology? Like what would be a
secure technology that we could trust and not have anything
to meddle with it, right, because that's like what you're

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thinking about, right, Because almost every other aspect of technological
advancement has been for the better in a lot of ways.
A lot of people will say, like the cell phone,
the smartphone, social media isn't but they just don't find
it useful for what they need necessarily. What would be

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the answer for elections to do that? Because they're trying
to make it more technologically advanced and reliable. But with
the addition of technology, it has limited the trust that
I think a lot of people have in the system,
especially because both parties have cried foul over the last
couple of elections.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Maybe a retina scan is that what it will take?
I mean, I think it's pretty crazy. I look at
my iPhone. All I have to do is put my
face in front of my screen and unlocks it for me.
It knows my face. Yeah, mine too. It's crazy something
like that.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
But that means you would have to, like very clearly,
like absentee ballots would have to go by the wayside.
We couldn't do we couldn't be absentee because how do
you send in a And that's the fear A lot
of people have. It's just like, hey, these mail in ballots,
those are the big questions. Yeah, because those could be anybody.

(14:02):
You have no way to know. Two twenty eight. We'll
have plenty more for you if you've got thoughts on
this and if you have trust issues with the election,
or here fifteen days out you feel like, hey, you
know what I'm I think I'm going to be willing
to accept the results people in my state, in the
states that are in question or saying hey, you know what,
we got all this taking care of, don't worry about us.
Do you believe them? You can call in it. Four

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Speaker 1 (14:37):
I asked you or fifteen days from the election, Well,
I mean some of the people are already voting early,
and if you know who you're voting for, that makes
a ton of sense. You don't want to, you know,
wait until the very last minute and potentially have some
complications with being able to vote and don't want to
mess with work or whatever. However, there's a lot of
people that still like to vote on election day. My

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question to you is how comp are you that the
results are going to be in a way that you
would accept them? Yes? No, maybe you feel good about here,
but you don't feel good about some of the other
states that are up for grabs. We're going to talk
to you about it. Four two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten,
and let's start with Brian. Brian, welcome to the show today.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Hi, thanks for taking my call. So I don't know
if you saw this, but even this weekend, I believe
it was at least I heard it this weekend that
Elon Musk, of all people, believes that paper ballots are
still the safest way to vote. All technologies are susceptible
to some type of thievery or hacking and things like that.

(15:40):
So when I heard Elon say that in an interview,
that that actually meant something to me. I still believe
that I am an early voter. I drive out to
the Dougas County the Election Commission vote in person, and
I like the idea of standing in line and waiting
on election day. But like you just said, you never

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know what could happen. You'd go out. You have a
flat tire, your car won't start. So if you have
an opportunity to go out and do it early, do
it early. But hearing Elon say, you know the technology
guru and him saying that paper ballots is the only
true safe way that that meant something.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Can you tell me what your experience was like? Have
you already voted this sun?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
I did. Yeah, I went out the day that it opened.
I think it was October seventh, I remember correctly. I
went out there that day and I was surprised. I
only had to wait like three or four minutes. But
still opening day, first thing in the morning, there was
quite a line there, went real smooth. They've got plenty
of little voting stations out there, probably fifty or sixty

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of them set up, and yeah, I hope they get
really good turn out early this season. But doing it
in person on paper, absolutely, I believe that's the only
safe way to do it.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I hear you, Brian. I appreciate you calling in, thanks
for listening to our show.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Let's got a rich Rich's on the phone line. Richie
with Emory News Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
What's up, Hey, how are you?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
I'm good man, how are you feeling good good.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Yeah, I believe the same thing that he did. I mean,
I think the safest way is to go and actual
to the poll in place and a paper ballad.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Is there is there any way that you think we
can get back to that? Or do you think that
we are trying too many different ways of how to
count them quickly in a way that hey, you know,
we're going to try different stuff. I remember the Iowa caucus,
for instance, in twenty twenty, that that whole thing blew
up in their face trying to you know, use an appora,
a different piece of technology to count the ballots, and

(17:49):
they just did not work very well. They were unable
to report the results until the next morning. Do you
do you think that we're too far gone that way
or do you think that maybe we can, you know,
with the right people in charge, can get back to
the way things used to be, where you know, you
have to show up in person, you had to vote
ahead of time. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
I think the the the that you you should have
to show up in person and vote unless you're an
elderly person that can't get there and you got to
fill a card out why you can't be there.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, And that then we would have to just like
as a society, figure out what those things are that
are acceptable for absentee ballots, right.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Yeah, I mean, because the mail invalid, you don't know
who's actually doing it correct, correct, And you know, I
you know, I told him when I first had to
call in. No, the country is so divided now. You
don't even see yard time and stuff who they're going
to vote for because people are free to put them out.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, I mean, unless unless you're in like a group. Yeah,
And that's the thing, Rich, I live in a neighborhood
that's got a lot of signs out, but they're all
the same signs, right, so everybody feels that.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
You know, Yeah, I mean, and one more thing, you know,
I think the law should be for everybody, not just
certain people. I just don't know anybody that would be
walking around. It's got as many yeah, you know, counts

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against it that it's been already decided.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, that's interesting, Rich. I appreciate you calling in, man,
Thanks for their thoughts today. Have a good day, all thanks. Yeah,
I mean, and you know, just to that point, right,
it's just we think twenty twenty right until we get
another big full election under our belt. Everybody's going to say, well,
look what happened in the twenty twenty election. Ted's on

(19:58):
the line. Hey, Ted, welcome to the show today.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
What do you Well, here's what I think. First of all,
I'll preface my comments with I've been a registered Democrat,
I've been a registered Republican, and I've been a registered
independent for about the last two elections. Okay, I I
do not I will not trust any any election results.

(20:24):
What you failed to mention, Emory when you brought up
the Russian collusion stuff that was all a result of
Hillary Clinton and that's proven. Yeah, so that wasn't That
wasn't There were no russianclusion that was a result of
Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Well yeah, well will years and didn't find a single thing,
you know, over two years of an investigation, right, So,
I mean it was pretty obvious nothing that was all
a result.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
Well they found out that Hillary was involved in sore
Here's Mike, when Hillary passes away, when Baraco I'm passes
away because frankly, in my estimation, what we're looking at
is a potential fourth term of Barack Obama, and I

(21:14):
frankly do not like the direction that our Democratic Party
is heted in. I think they're headed towards socialism and communism.
I think that we're in real trouble if Pamela gets elected.
And the fact of the matter is, I'm with Elon Musk.
I think we need paper ballots. We need to ninety

(21:39):
five percent of the people who are voting to show
up at the polls on polling day. That's what I've done.
I've done that. I've done that since I was eighteen
years old, and I'm now. You know, flight aways and
I just I know I do not as long as
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are alive, I think we're

(22:03):
in for contrump.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Now, if you want to call in, you can four
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on to more calls Chris Waylan and anyone else calling
in right now. We will get to your phone call
momentarily about how you feel about the security and the
legitimacy of our election a couple of weeks before we
actually get to it. Call us now at four oh
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Speaker 1 (22:33):
We get about two weeks in, I don't want us
to wake up on the sixth of November and be like,
I don't like our election system. I think we got screwed.
You know, here we're talking about it two weeks before
we even know what the results are, and just how
confident that we feel about this stuff, win or lose
for the candidate that you support. Let's start with Chris
on our phone line at four oh two, five five,

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eight eleven ten. Chris, welcome to the show today.

Speaker 7 (22:57):
Hey Emory, good to be here.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
Thanks all I heard.

Speaker 7 (23:01):
I heard the other guys say Elon's statement about the
safest election is the one with paper ballots. I think
that's probably only true if we require in person voting only.
I think with mail in ballots, I feel like that
can be anyone from anywhere. I would say the only
exception I would make is deployed military, and I know

(23:26):
that would that would probably I know some people will
probably disagree with me because of everybody's individual individual situation
where they live, their age, their you know, medical status,
their transportation status, all sorts of stuff. But I just
don't have any confidence in election results. I think we

(23:47):
could employ a technological solution. I mean, if you think
about it, we use tech for all sorts of different things.
I mean things that some people will probably consider more important.
I mean you're you're like your paychecks, your your taxes,
your everything is is tech reliant if you think about it,
and I mean the the entire what is it, the

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currency system, blockchain. I mean that's people are thinking about
going to blockchain for the currency system and that that
validates every single transaction. So I don't think it's out
of the question. But again it brings up, like I said,
the issue of accommodations. So not everybody's going to have
access to that kind of technology. But what it What

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it comes down to to me when somebody says accommodations
is US citizens have a lot of rights, but I
don't think none none that cater to us as much
as the right to vote. So when I say cater,
I mean if you think about other rights, You've got
the right to, you know, apply for federal employment, the

(24:54):
right to run for elected office, to the right to
do all of these things. But those things require tech,
anology IDs transportation. But when we say they're right to vote,
all of a sudden you know, we have to cater
to everybody's individual situation, and that sounds a little heartless and.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Callous, right, But but at what cost, right Chris?

Speaker 5 (25:15):
Like?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
At what costs are we?

Speaker 6 (25:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:18):
We need to cater to everybody just to lose the
legitimacy and the trust in our election system. You know,
I'm with you there. I don't know what the right
answer is because I want people to have the right
to participate. But there's got to be a happy medium.
If we have open voting for a month, why do
we need mail in ballots? Is that not crazy to me?

Speaker 7 (25:35):
Like, it's crazy to me. I'm with you there. I
think there does have to be I think there will
be some sort of technological intervention. I think that's the
only way, the only way forward. I mean, that's that's
what's happening with everything. Eventually, we're just going to have
to accept the fact that technology is going to.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Be the answer.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
I appreciate the call, Chris, Thanks for listening to us today.
Thanks every Let's go Whalen, Whalen, thank you for holding
and being on our show today. What's on your mind
about this?

Speaker 9 (26:05):
Listen to the last caller. There's a lot that I
agree with there. I think the in person as you
were saying, we've got the early voting option for up
to a month. Instead of calling it early voting, let's
just change it calling it voting. Yeah, you're right, everyone
feeling stressed about making it there on a specific Tuesday,
you know, just go vote. You've got a month to
do it or a week tightening up, loosen it up. Yeah,
but something needs to be removed from being able to

(26:27):
remove that ballot from that office and take it anywhere.
You got to go in and do it. My wife
and I we bought a house during COVID and and
they digitally notarized everything we had to do. You know,
we didn't go anywhere. We sat on a computer, held
up our IDs, showed them who we were. It was verified,
it was notarized. You know, there's a way to verify

(26:49):
the right people. So in those circumstances that someone can't
go like, there's a way to tighten that up. But
I think it needs to be extreme. Why can't you go.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Right well well and whaling? I guess my bigger question
is are so is it more of just kind of
the lack of confidence we have with like the mail
in ballots because we're talking more about you know, we
should have the ability to see you in some way
when we count your ballot. We don't think that anybody's
actually working these polls is actually trying to mess with
the ballots. Right.

Speaker 9 (27:20):
I don't have a lot of confidence in anything government related.
But I think if you pick apart every single part,
then then that's the anarchy you've got. You've got to
start somewhere with confidence. So I think step one is
going in person and trusting that that's the best way,
all right, Yeah, and then and then going from there.
But then also I think the other part about election

(27:42):
integrity is we need to upburn numbers.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
There should be some sort.

Speaker 9 (27:45):
Of incentive to vote. Yeah, other than just voting. Make
it a tax incentive, give us a break.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
I don't know, pick.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Something, I mean that would definitely change things up now. Cool,
but yeah, not quite the same thing. Well, especially like
what was a sticker mean? If you know everybody's doing
it on different days, right, Yeah, just pretty that's an
interesting thought there as well. Whalen is like, is there
going to be a legitimate reward that someone could have,
you know, for actually doing their civic duty and participating

(28:13):
and maybe that would make people a little bit more
willing to I don't know accept what those results are,
but it's it's an interesting it's an interesting conversation, Waleen.
I appreciate your thoughts on it. We'll take more calls.
I got more people calling in four h two five
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calls about this. How do you feel about security of

(28:34):
our elections in this date in time? We've got two
weeks ahead of the big election today, and I thought
it's a good time to chat about this. So we'll
keep doing it here on news radio eleven to KFAB
every single debate, every single time that Donald Trump is
talking to somebody who's not necessarily a true supporter of him,
you know, one of the networks, the reporters of the network,

(28:54):
they're always fascinated by asking him about January sixth? Then
will he accept the results of an election that trickles
down to a lot of his supporters?

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Right?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
It's like, Hey, do you think that Trump supporters are
going to accept the election results? Not so sure. Same
can be said for the Democrats who also threw a
fit about the election results and what was potentially meddled
with in the twenty sixteen election. And so the question is,
how do you feel about our election confidence, whether it's Nebraska,
Iowa or in these other swing states, especially on how

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do you feel about what we can do to make
it more secure and make you feel better about it
into the future. Well, we're talking to you. Four two, five, five,
eight eleven ten is the number and Mark is on
the line. Mark, welcome to the show today. Thanks for
holding What do you think about this?

Speaker 10 (29:38):
Hey a, Mary, thanks for taking my call. You know,
I'm sure my view is not going to be overly popular.
But you know, prior to Trump, there really wasn't an
issue with election security and voter ID. It really did not.
It just was not an issue. You know, Fox had
to pay a billion dollars for lying about the dominion

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voting issue. But I think the bottom line is on
November sixth, if Trump wins the election, the election was
secure and fair. If he loses, it was rigged. And
that's and that's going to be the issue, and we
know it ahead of time. And to say twenty sixteen,

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the Democrats made an issue of election security. There was
some you know, some discussion on Russia, but it was
nothing like it wasn't in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
It was a different at all. Yeah, it was a
different kind of election security. I think they were complaining about.

Speaker 10 (30:37):
But this is all Trump. I mean, let's not kid ourselves.
He lost the election, and he fails to admit that
he loses anything, and he's and if he loses this election,
it's going to be the exact same thing. Well, mar
and I think it's very unfortunate for the country.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Very infull Yeah. Well, I hope, I hope regardless of
what the result is, that we at least as a
society can feel like the election was secure and legitimate.
I just don't know if that's going to happen for
exactly what you mentioned, not necessarily even just being Trump,
but because these are the same kinds of characters that
were around the last time, and we haven't seen a
lot of election security reform when it comes to what

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we're looking at right now in a lot of these
other states, And we just don't know what the rules
are in a lot of these other states too, So
it's you know, pretty easy for us in Nebraska to
look at Michigan and be like, what the heck are
those guys doing well? At what point do we just
trust that Michigan is doing their election the best that
they can. Brian's on a phone line of four h two, five, five,
eight eleven ten. Hellobrian, what do you think?

Speaker 11 (31:35):
Well, the best way is paper ballots. The people still
out and then have been countered by a machine. And
it's any problem or question about the machine count and
you have the paper bouts.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Check.

Speaker 11 (31:46):
If you try to count paper bouts, pay find out
the results. Sure, But in Arizona, election workers are being
trained to barricade and solves these fire hoses to repel
armed mobs. There's going to be new fencing, concrete barriers,
MS overhead, and police snipers on the roof. And in

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twenty twenty Trump we did was he asked four troops
to protect his supporters at the January sixthy rally. We
did that on January third, and according to the Defense Secretary,
he said, quote, do whatever is necessary to protect demonstrators
were executing their constitutionally protected rights. I suppose he thought

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maybe the District of Columbia police or some imaginary antipha
was going to come in to do something about it,
and ever look up Mueller investigation and that thirty four
individuals and three companies were charged and eight pled guilty
or were convicted of felonies. And the Brooks Brothers riot

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in twenty twenty, that was on Roger Stone, that people
beat on the where they were counting the votes. So
it got stopped. Nobody ever questioned whether people actually we
won in who actually won in twenty sixteen?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
So well, well, people maybe not specifically in our society,
but people in Congress did, and they immediately moved to
impeach Donald Trump, and they immediately investigated Russian collusion into
the election, and two years later came back and said
there was no evidence of that happening specifically.

Speaker 11 (33:23):
Well, no, they didn't say there was no evidence. Swimoler
actually said he was only sure of the booking preclusion. Okay,
the booking preclusion. Okay, say that Trump hadn't committed a crime,
he would and he said due to evidence being destroyed
and witnesses lying.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Okay. So what you're saying, Brian is people did have
questions about the election result in twenty twenty or twenty sixteen. Okay,
Now it makes sense to me I appreciate the call, Brian,
as always. All right, moving on, Mike is on the
phone line of four h two, five to five, eight
to eleven teen. Mike, welcome to our show today. What
do you think?

Speaker 12 (33:53):
Hey a Marie, thanks for having me on. I largely
agree with your first caller today that no matter what,
if Trump wins, then it was a very valid election,
and he will win by a landslide, and if he
loses by any number, it's all rigged and fraud, and
I think it's been a great disservice to the American people.

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I also will say that the Republicans have had four
years to do all their jerrymandering now around the country,
like changing voting districts in Georgia and Florida and enacting
voter ID laws and all these things that are supposed
to bake the election for secure. And so I don't

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understand at this point how we can have election fraud,
seeing as they passed all these laws to make everything
more secure now and then good, do you do you mind?
I just had a quick comment Emory regarding our Senate candidate.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, real quick.

Speaker 12 (35:00):
Remember one of some sick things was to drain the
swamp right, But now we have Senator Bacon and Senator
Fisher Representative Baker going on many, many terms. Does that
mean that they need to be thrown out office now
too because they're part of the swamp? I just was

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curious opinion on them.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah, it's a good question, Mike, And this is what
I'm saying. Drain the swamp is a colloquial term of,
you know what the machine in Washington is. No matter
who goes there, they end up basically becoming what we
consider Washingtonian or something like that.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
I'm not here to tell you what a lifestyle for
a person should be when they're serving over there, because
I don't know what that is. I would love for
all of them to stay humble, not take any money,
and not be influenced by lobbyists, and just do their
due diligence for the constituents that they have wherever they're from.
At the same time, how realistic is that considering what
it takes to actually pass things and get things done

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in Washington, DC and also allow yourself to have the
right people and resources around you to maintain being elected,
which for a lot of these people, that's what it's
all about, especially in the House of Representatives when you're
off for re election every two years. That's that's where
I'm at, Draining the swamp. I don't think draining the
swamp means, hey, we need to get everybody from Washington,
DC out and put new people in. I know a

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lot of people are like, yeah, we should do that, Okay,
so we're going to go to like remember when the
NFL referees went on strike for a few weeks about
ten years ago now or maybe a little bit longer. Yeah, well,
how much better was the NFL officiating? It was a
lot worse. Okay. So even though we may not have
the best people that we agree with one percent in
office representing us, they very well could be the best

(36:44):
people to represent us versus what the alternatives could be.
So if you're removing them, you got to put somebody
else in there. Who's that going to be? You're going
to like those people any better? My guess is probably not.
Three seventeen. We got plenty more people on the line, Michelle,
Jared Rick, everybody else calling in be paid and I'll
get to you all when we come back. Four two,
five to five, eight to eleven, ten election interference, election security.

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That's the discussion of the day. On news Radio eleven
ten Kfab.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Emery Sunger on news Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Michelle, welcome to our show today. What do you think
about all this that we're talking about.

Speaker 13 (37:21):
Well, I have zero confidence in our elections. Election was
absolutely positively stolen. Everybody knows that. The Democrats don't even
hide it anymore.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
And a few of your.

Speaker 13 (37:36):
Last callers kind of got under my skin with their
it's Trump's fault, it's Trump fault, It's Trump's fault. That's
what the Democrats do.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Everything's Trump's fault.

Speaker 13 (37:45):
But if you notice over the years, after everybody's blamed
Trump for this and blame Trump for that, said this
about Trump, well, now it's coming out that guess what.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Trump was right. Trump was right.

Speaker 13 (37:56):
Trump was right. Trump's always right. Well, Trump love this country,
he loves the American people, and he wants what's best
for our country and we the people. Michelle can Trump,
everything was phenomenal. There was world peace, there were no
wars for the Democrats to launder their money back into

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their part.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Michelle, Can I ask a couple of questions, just kind
of candidly, just to explore kind of your thoughts. So
the polling is showing this being a very tight election,
it should be very close. But let's say it's very
close and Trump loses. Do you have confidence that that
was fair and free as an election, that that's possibly

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a result that actually happened, or do you will you
have immediate questions about the security of the election if
that's the result.

Speaker 13 (38:47):
Absolutely not. Now I do not. The mainstream media has
painted Trump out to the Hitler, horrible individual. Well, if
he was going to destroy democracy the like, they say,
why didn't he do it the first four years?

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, and I agree with it.

Speaker 13 (39:05):
Everything was great under Trump the first four years. So
what we got under the Biden Harris?

Speaker 6 (39:12):
Right?

Speaker 5 (39:12):
Right?

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I just administrate one more thing I wanted to ask Michelle,
But right, you.

Speaker 13 (39:16):
Think you think it's bad under Biden Harris, did you
imagine it'll be one hundred times worse under her?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Right?

Speaker 13 (39:22):
Okay, So they're so far left leaning it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
So Michelle, just to one more thing that I just
wanted to ask, because you feel so strongly about this,
is there an amount that Trump would lose by that
you would feel like, Okay, he must have lost the
election legitimately or do you feel like that's just not
something that's possible.

Speaker 13 (39:39):
There's there's no way he loses the free election. He
didn't lose in twenty twenty. They stole it.

Speaker 9 (39:43):
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Okay, Michelle, appreciate the call. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate Michelle.
I got other calls. I just wanted to kind of
get your thoughts on this because of your passion, and
I really appreciate you calling in today. Thanks so much
for listening to our show. Let's go to Jared. Jared,
thanks for being on our show today. I love the
you staying on hold as long as you did. Thanks
for calling. What's your thoughts?

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Well?

Speaker 8 (40:04):
Uh, first off, thanks for taking the call. Enjoy what
listening to your show every day?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Thanks?

Speaker 8 (40:10):
You know we're talking, you were talking in the last hour.
You know, what are some things that we could change
that maybe you would help people's confidence. I guess you
know one thing that's our civic duty as Americans is
we all have to, unfortunately, at some point in time,
do Jerry.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Duty right usually, Ah, so, how many.

Speaker 8 (40:32):
I'm not one hundred percent familiar with. You know how
all the election workers, poll workers, so on and so
forth do their job I've never thought of doing it.
But one way to make that to where you know,
you don't have the same people year any year out
or election every other election doing so.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
So what you're suggesting, Jared, is that you know, like
we all kind of take turns in you know, working
an election as a poll worker, and that should allow
us to at least uh, there are a few different
ways that we could do this right like we I
mean in that regard, it's you know, we can see
more of how the process works because we actually had
to do it once and then there's like this other,

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this other part of this that you know, nobody's doing
it twice in a row. So if we had questions
the first time, then the next time we have completely
different people no matter what.

Speaker 8 (41:21):
Right exactly that way, you get rid of the people
that have been doing it year in and year out,
and you take away some of that questionability from it.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's interesting, Jared, that's an interesting idea. I appreciate you
man that with us today.

Speaker 8 (41:35):
And then the last last thing I had for you was,
you know, the mail in ballot conversation.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, what about it?

Speaker 8 (41:43):
There there is a there's a time and a place
for that. But In my opinion, the only people that
should be eligible for a mail in ballot should be
any deployed service member or college students that are not
going to college in their voting district.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
That makes sense to you, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (42:00):
That eliminates a lot of the discrepancies. I mean, we
have sure, we have early voting now exactly. Yeah, I've
never I've never partaken in early voting. This is the
only year I've even thought of doing that.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Right, But you have a whole month. You should be
able to plan for a whole month a day that
you can go in person and.

Speaker 8 (42:17):
Vote, right, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, that's definitely a positive of the early voting is
that there should be no reason whether you have a
planned vacation or you have like a work trip or
something like that, there should be a way to work
around that so you can go in person and vote
where you live. I think there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
Or if you do have a disability or something, you
have time to, you know, make arrangement a friend or
a family remember, right, He'll help you out and get
you there.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Jared, Hey, I appreciate you call it.

Speaker 8 (42:44):
In body in paper balance should be the only way.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
It goes for sure. No, I appreciate it. Thanks for
the call, Jared. We always appreciate you calling in. We'll
get some more conversation on this. We have Pete, Mike, Rick, Tom,
everybody stay on the line. I do have an interview
that we're going to come up and do you know,
you know exactly sure how long some of this stuff
is going to be taking place. But I have an
interview with a very special person who's representing nebrask in

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the Omaha area very well. We'll talk about that and
also take more calls on election security. We'll be doing
that throughout the rest of this hour, so stick around
on news radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Emery Songer on news radio eleven ten KFAB