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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One thing you probably didn't feel ultra great about was
the Nebraska corn Huskers and their game against the Indiana
Hoosiers that went about as what about as poorly as
I think anything could out there, you know, joining us
as our Husker insider for Husker Buzz, Sean Callahan joining
us on the phone line. First of all, Sean, you
feeling better? Your voice feeling better today?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah? You know. I discovered some coughs syrup on Saturday
morning and that seemed to be the Racot road to recovery,
but it didn't help the performance with football. I was
able to get through a ninety minute postgame show where
we've went through hundreds of fan comments and got through that,
(00:42):
but those are the ones you hate. I mean, twenty
eight points off turnovers. We saw five turnovers from Nebraska.
They've had six turnovers over their last seven quarters of football,
and their previous twenty one quarters Emory they had only
had three turnovers. It was really a role reversal in
the defense played as poor as we've seen, so everything
(01:05):
that could have went wrong did and Indiana played a
great game. They're well coached and did everything right. And
you know, the game it was fourteen to seven. I mean,
I think people forget it was fourteen to seven with
four minutes left in the second quarter, and it spiraled
in a hurry.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, so I spiraled in a hurry and also didn't
really even matter he was playing at quarterback. It didn't
seem like so. I guess, Sean, the way I see
this is there's a couple of ways we can go
about doing this right. We can talk about how good
Indiana actually might end up being, and we talked about
how impressive their numbers were, but we talked about the
(01:43):
fact that their schedule really didn't have any real good
well even a good team on the schedule their first
six games. At what point, though, do we see the
numbers they are putting up through seven games now, including
against Nebraska. How much of this is just them actually
being real legitimate.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think they've brought in good transfers, and I believe
twenty close to thirty, like twenty eight. I think you're
twenty seven is the number I think I remember seeing
going this game, But it's around thirty transfers and thirteen
from James Madison followed Kirk Signetti and Curtis Rhart came
from Ohio and they had a good nucleus built with
that group right there, and they they proved it. I
(02:24):
mean they now you look at their schedule and they
have Ohio State, they have Michigan, but this is not
the Michigan of last year. And you know, anything's possible.
I mean, they are now a team that can control
their own destiny to make the College Football Playoff. And
you know a lot of the projections they're in as
if the Big Ten were to get four teams, they're
the four team right now. Oregon, Penn State, Ohio State
(02:46):
are your top three. But I think there's a lot
of ifs that the Big ten and will get four
because the Big twelve is fighting for two, the ACC
is fighting for two. Notre Dame is still in play,
and obviously the Group of five will get a spot.
So there's a lot of what if and how many
will the SEC get? But the SEC, even with an
eight game conference schedule, is cannibalizing itself a lot right now,
(03:07):
Alabama losing again and just some of the things that
have gone on in that league where you know, I
think today Georgia and Texas look like they're in the
playoff discussion or in and A and M and LSU
or A and M is probably knocking on the door
as well. And so it's so wide open. I think
that's the good thing about the playoff discussion. A team
(03:28):
like Indiana can now go eleven and one and make
the playoff, or ten and two and make the playoff
four a year ago, if they went ten and two,
they might get to go like the Peach Bowl, and
it just wouldn't had the same feel.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, no doub We're speaking with Sean Callahan. This is
our Husker buzz and Indiana, like you mentioned, controlling their
own destiny. But it is way more wide open for
the ACC and the Big twelve than I think anybody
had anticipated, with schools like Iowa State and BYU that
people I don't think thought were going to be in play.
And now you talk about like the Indianas of the world,
You talk about the fact that Alabama isn't really you know,
(04:03):
in the top four or even five of the SEC.
When we're talking about the hierarchy right now of the playoff.
At the same time, we don't need to worry about
talking playoff about Nebraska right now. What do you do,
Matt Ruhl talked about it, you know it. He kind
of looked like visibly kind of shocked as to what
was happening on Saturday. How do you recover from this
in time to take on an Ohio State team on
(04:23):
the road.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But these are the weeks where a head coach really
earns their money because there's a lot of outside noise,
a lot of people questioning the Nebraska team now and
what they are and what we've seen so far, especially Saturday,
and where their defense played Saturday. That was a shock.
I mean we thought, you know, we talked to Urban
Meyer and a lot of folks on Friday in Bloomington,
(04:45):
and they used the words as an elite defense, and
it didn't look like that. It didn't look that caliber.
So why was that? Why was the defense off bounce?
Matt Rule did say that a lot of things they
were losing in defense were the fifty to fifty balls.
I go back to a key third down. It was
still fourteen to seven in the second quarter, Nebraska Indiana
(05:06):
on third and nine or ten around a long third
and all and Tommy Hill's in a fifty to fifty
gets beat, you know, And those were the little moments
of the game. That he just started to see stack
up and then then things really really went downhill in
a hurry after that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, you mentioned the five turnovers, but you know, even
more so than that, you mentioned it was a pretty
close game until the end of the second quarter, when
you know, things really started to go against the Huskers
the rushing attack. Not like they couldn't stop Indiana's rush attack,
but they also couldn't run the football themselves twenty nine
(05:42):
attempts just seventy yards. I know they had to, you know,
start airing it out a little bit once they fell
fully behind. But were you surprised that they were unable
to establish anything on the ground to make things a
little bit easier.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
For Riola And the predictability of their offense once they
got down made it very hard. But I thought the
fumble by Dowdell really just took the air out of
a sell a sale. I mean, they were in a
position to score and tie the game and they fumble
in the red zone. They had three red zone turnovers
in that game, two interceptions in a fumble by Dowdell,
So that was a big part of it. I mean,
(06:14):
just when you turn it over at that number and
It was initially four, but the very very final play
a fourth down or a fumble, so there were technically
five turnovers by the Huskers. You just are never going
to win at that level of turnover. And Nebraska had
not been playing necessarily great football on offense, but they
weren't turning it over and they were still finding ways
to win. On Saturday, they weren't playing great offense and
(06:37):
they turned it over, and I think that that was
a big piece of it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, and the opponent this week, we mentioned Ohio Stan.
We'll talk more about them, but there they had a
week to get, you know, try to recover off of
that very strange loss at Oregon. Those teams seem pretty
equal on paper. You see how you know, the rest
of the country plays out a lot of you know,
top ranking type piece. People are saying, look, the three
(07:02):
best teams in the country realistically could end up being
you know, Ohio State, Oregon, and Penn State in some order.
This isn't exactly like the perfect spot to fall into
a rebound game for the Huskers. What can you tell
me on a Monday from what you've you know, talked about.
I know that we're trying to forget about what happened Saturday.
But a team coming off of bye week as good
(07:23):
as Ohio State is there hope that, you know, maybe
there's something that can be exploited there.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
But this Ohio State team is interesting because they play
it as easier, if not easier, of a non conference
schedule but Indiana, so they didn't really test themselves from
the non con They took the Jim Harbaugh Michigan approach
and racked up three as he wins. They took Caro
Iowa whether they lost to Oregon. So I think, you know,
their fan base still is not all the way in
(07:51):
love with this team yet they don't really know. I
talked to a former Ohio State player who I work
with now and he said, I get his team. There's
a lot of fans here and media questioning what this
team is. Still they don't really know. So I don't
hear we think Ohio State is this juggernaut, but I
can tell you there there's still a lot of question
if this is an elite Ohio State team that can
(08:12):
make a run run for it all, especially after the
way their defense played against Oregon. But Nebraska, on the
other hand, do they have the offense that can really
score more than twenty eight points, because if you're gonna
be at Ohio State, you got to score at a
pretty high level and be efficient. And we haven't seen
that necessarily play out last few weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
No doubt, No doubt. Ohio State also the week after
this Nebraska game at Penn State and what is going
to be a mammoth Big Ten game. You wonder if
maybe they can catch the Buckeyes off guard while they
maybe look ahead to that Penn State matchup, but it's
unlikely as far as Ryan Day and that coaching staff
is concerned. We'll break that down from a very positional
(08:54):
standpoint throughout the week. But always great to chat with you, Sean.
Glad you're feeling better. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Thanks very
One thing you probably didn't feel ultra great about was
the Nebraska corn Huskers and their game against the Indiana
Hoosiers that went about as what about as poorly as
I think anything could out there, you know, joining us
as our Husker insider for Husker Buzz, Sean Callahan joining
us on the phone line. First of all, Sean, you
feeling better? Your voice feeling better today?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah? You know. I discovered some coughs syrup on Saturday
morning and that seemed to be the Racot road to recovery,
but it didn't help the performance with football. I was
able to get through a ninety minute postgame show where
we've went through hundreds of fan comments and got through that,
(00:42):
but those are the ones you hate. I mean, twenty
eight points off turnovers. We saw five turnovers from Nebraska.
They've had six turnovers over their last seven quarters of football,
and their previous twenty one quarters Emory they had only
had three turnovers. It was really a role reversal in
the defense played as poor as we've seen, so everything
(01:05):
that could have went wrong did and Indiana played a
great game. They're well coached and did everything right. And
you know, the game it was fourteen to seven. I mean,
I think people forget it was fourteen to seven with
four minutes left in the second quarter, and it spiraled
in a hurry.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, so I spiraled in a hurry and also didn't
really even matter he was playing at quarterback. It didn't
seem like so. I guess, Sean, the way I see
this is there's a couple of ways we can go
about doing this right. We can talk about how good
Indiana actually might end up being, and we talked about
how impressive their numbers were, but we talked about the
(01:43):
fact that their schedule really didn't have any real good
well even a good team on the schedule their first
six games. At what point, though, do we see the
numbers they are putting up through seven games now, including
against Nebraska. How much of this is just them actually
being real legitimate.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think they've brought in good transfers, and I believe
twenty close to thirty, like twenty eight. I think you're
twenty seven is the number I think I remember seeing
going this game, But it's around thirty transfers and thirteen
from James Madison followed Kirk Signetti and Curtis Rhart came
from Ohio and they had a good nucleus built with
that group right there, and they they proved it. I
(02:24):
mean they now you look at their schedule and they
have Ohio State, they have Michigan, but this is not
the Michigan of last year. And you know, anything's possible.
I mean, they are now a team that can control
their own destiny to make the College Football Playoff. And
you know a lot of the projections they're in as
if the Big Ten were to get four teams, they're
the four team right now. Oregon, Penn State, Ohio State
(02:46):
are your top three. But I think there's a lot
of ifs that the Big ten and will get four
because the Big twelve is fighting for two, the ACC
is fighting for two. Notre Dame is still in play,
and obviously the Group of five will get a spot.
So there's a lot of what if and how many
will the SEC get? But the SEC, even with an
eight game conference schedule, is cannibalizing itself a lot right now,
(03:07):
Alabama losing again and just some of the things that
have gone on in that league where you know, I
think today Georgia and Texas look like they're in the
playoff discussion or in and A and M and LSU
or A and M is probably knocking on the door
as well. And so it's so wide open. I think
that's the good thing about the playoff discussion. A team
(03:28):
like Indiana can now go eleven and one and make
the playoff, or ten and two and make the playoff
four a year ago, if they went ten and two,
they might get to go like the Peach Bowl, and
it just wouldn't had the same feel.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, no doub We're speaking with Sean Callahan. This is
our Husker buzz and Indiana, like you mentioned, controlling their
own destiny. But it is way more wide open for
the ACC and the Big twelve than I think anybody
had anticipated, with schools like Iowa State and BYU that
people I don't think thought were going to be in play.
And now you talk about like the Indianas of the world,
You talk about the fact that Alabama isn't really you know,
(04:03):
in the top four or even five of the SEC.
When we're talking about the hierarchy right now of the playoff.
At the same time, we don't need to worry about
talking playoff about Nebraska right now. What do you do,
Matt Ruhl talked about it, you know it. He kind
of looked like visibly kind of shocked as to what
was happening on Saturday. How do you recover from this
in time to take on an Ohio State team on
(04:23):
the road.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But these are the weeks where a head coach really
earns their money because there's a lot of outside noise,
a lot of people questioning the Nebraska team now and
what they are and what we've seen so far, especially Saturday,
and where their defense played Saturday. That was a shock.
I mean we thought, you know, we talked to Urban
Meyer and a lot of folks on Friday in Bloomington,
(04:45):
and they used the words as an elite defense, and
it didn't look like that. It didn't look that caliber.
So why was that? Why was the defense off bounce?
Matt Rule did say that a lot of things they
were losing in defense were the fifty to fifty balls.
I go back to a key third down. It was
still fourteen to seven in the second quarter, Nebraska Indiana
(05:06):
on third and nine or ten around a long third
and all and Tommy Hill's in a fifty to fifty
gets beat, you know, And those were the little moments
of the game. That he just started to see stack
up and then then things really really went downhill in
a hurry after that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, you mentioned the five turnovers, but you know, even
more so than that, you mentioned it was a pretty
close game until the end of the second quarter, when
you know, things really started to go against the Huskers
the rushing attack. Not like they couldn't stop Indiana's rush attack,
but they also couldn't run the football themselves twenty nine
(05:42):
attempts just seventy yards. I know they had to, you know,
start airing it out a little bit once they fell
fully behind. But were you surprised that they were unable
to establish anything on the ground to make things a
little bit easier.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
For Riola And the predictability of their offense once they
got down made it very hard. But I thought the
fumble by Dowdell really just took the air out of
a sell a sale. I mean, they were in a
position to score and tie the game and they fumble
in the red zone. They had three red zone turnovers
in that game, two interceptions in a fumble by Dowdell,
So that was a big part of it. I mean,
(06:14):
just when you turn it over at that number and
It was initially four, but the very very final play
a fourth down or a fumble, so there were technically
five turnovers by the Huskers. You just are never going
to win at that level of turnover. And Nebraska had
not been playing necessarily great football on offense, but they
weren't turning it over and they were still finding ways
to win. On Saturday, they weren't playing great offense and
(06:37):
they turned it over, and I think that that was
a big piece of it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, and the opponent this week, we mentioned Ohio Stan.
We'll talk more about them, but there they had a
week to get, you know, try to recover off of
that very strange loss at Oregon. Those teams seem pretty
equal on paper. You see how you know, the rest
of the country plays out a lot of you know,
top ranking type piece. People are saying, look, the three
(07:02):
best teams in the country realistically could end up being
you know, Ohio State, Oregon, and Penn State in some order.
This isn't exactly like the perfect spot to fall into
a rebound game for the Huskers. What can you tell
me on a Monday from what you've you know, talked about.
I know that we're trying to forget about what happened Saturday.
But a team coming off of bye week as good
(07:23):
as Ohio State is there hope that, you know, maybe
there's something that can be exploited there.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
But this Ohio State team is interesting because they play
it as easier, if not easier, of a non conference
schedule but Indiana, so they didn't really test themselves from
the non con They took the Jim Harbaugh Michigan approach
and racked up three as he wins. They took Caro
Iowa whether they lost to Oregon. So I think, you know,
their fan base still is not all the way in
(07:51):
love with this team yet they don't really know. I
talked to a former Ohio State player who I work
with now and he said, I get his team. There's
a lot of fans here and media questioning what this
team is. Still they don't really know. So I don't
hear we think Ohio State is this juggernaut, but I
can tell you there there's still a lot of question
if this is an elite Ohio State team that can
(08:12):
make a run run for it all, especially after the
way their defense played against Oregon. But Nebraska, on the
other hand, do they have the offense that can really
score more than twenty eight points, because if you're gonna
be at Ohio State, you got to score at a
pretty high level and be efficient. And we haven't seen
that necessarily play out last few weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
No doubt, No doubt. Ohio State also the week after
this Nebraska game at Penn State and what is going
to be a mammoth Big Ten game. You wonder if
maybe they can catch the Buckeyes off guard while they
maybe look ahead to that Penn State matchup, but it's
unlikely as far as Ryan Day and that coaching staff
is concerned. We'll break that down from a very positional
(08:54):
standpoint throughout the week. But always great to chat with you, Sean.
Glad you're feeling better. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Thanks very
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