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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here's a Tuesday cheers for you, Tuesday, cheers to you.
It's World stroke Day today, by the way. Okay, big
big day in the rowing world. I think, is that
what it's a big day? Probably not the kinds of yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I don't want to be the guy that makes
really bad jokes that people hate on for right, that's
how you get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We want to be respectful. Speaking of over.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
The weekend, there was that big Madison Square Garden rally
that everybody was talking about. Everybody was going crazy about.
It's like, oh, this is like a Nazi rally. It's like, hey,
anybody who says that, you just shut up.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
You're just saying stuff because you hate these people. It's
a it's a it's a blind hate to anything that
the Republicans do, no matter what it is.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
But there was one person that kind of stole the
headlines coming out of this whole thing. Do you know
who I'm talking about here?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, well, this guy who makes jokes for a living. Yeah,
don't call him Tony Soprano, I think was what you mean.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
His name is Tone Hinchcliff. Yeah, that guy, Tony Hinchcliff.
He's a forty year old American comedian. He's got a
comedy podcast called Kill Tony.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But he's not dead yet, So can you kill that
one out? Have you listened to Kill Tony before?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I feel like today's a good day to plead the fifth. Oh,
come on, I have never heard of the guy. No,
it sounds like a terrible person. The sixth, the seventh,
the eighth, the night, I'd like to plead them all.
At least three of those have nothing to do with this.
Uh no, seriously, right, Yeah, you've heard of this guy.
I've heard of him. He's part of the He's part
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of the Austin comedy movement, you know, and wrote it's
part of that too.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
There was a moment in the pandemic when a whole
bunch of people from California who had semi prominent podcasts
and we're kind of in the comedy world there, decided
to uproot from California just because of some of the
restrictive COVID laws, and they moved to Austin and since
then have actually started a couple of comedy clubs down
(02:04):
there and have started a little bit of a like. Okay,
let me put it this way. If you were a
comedian who was looking for his break in in this
country at one time, it would have been smart. Probably
maybe you go to Chicago first, then you go to
New York. Maybe eventually you go to l A. Well,
these days you go straight to Austin. Like, Austin is
(02:25):
a viable place to to get yourself on the map
as a comedian. And and and this guy who you're
talking about is part of why that is.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well, he's famous as a comedian. He's been on Comedy
Central and Netflix gave him a couple of specials.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And and he's been canceled before.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, this is not the first time. I mean, he
was on game Day two weeks ago. He can call
it in Austin, Texas. Seriously, they were at the Texas
game Texas, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, he was the he was He's a guy. He
showed up. He made a bunch of gay jokes there. Really, Yeah,
I had no idea. It's not surprising. The guy makes
a living off of you laughing at stuff that you're
not supposed to laugh at. I think is his his stick.
That's that I don't watch a lot of comedy. I'm
not well versed in the comedy where. This is why
(03:15):
I brought you in on this, because I wanted to
let it Simmerford. I was gonna jump in here and
start talking about a dumb comedian. On Monday, when we
had a whole week and stuff to talk about, we
had great phone calls talking about, you know, election rhetoric
and election rules and election legitimacy, and it was a
good conversation. Today, I want to talk about the comedian. Okay, well,
(03:35):
I love comedy. So where's Hedgecliffe. Where's Hingecliffe style comedy
comedy for you? I'm gonna I'm gonna put put it
out there. There's not a lot of guys like this
right now where there's like he is intentionally trying to
step over every possible line, yes, with the intent of
trying to get people to laugh at stuff that they're
not supposed to laugh at.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Like that's that is his. And I've looked into the
guy before before this happened, because I was curious about
that whole kill Tony movement down there in Austin. He's
a part of a burgeoning comedy scene down there.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And this is not a guy that when you look
at him, he's like an overtly noticeable guy. I mean,
this is just the reason I think a lot of
the the jokes and stuff come off is even more
shocking than they even are, is because this guy just
looks like a regular guy. And you wouldn't you wouldn't
it was like a geek almost. Well, and I think
that he kind of lives off of that sort of
juxtaposition that is inherently kind of funny. Right, It's like
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the basically it's it's almost like the nerd roast in
the jocks, right, a little bit right, you know, And
he owns that. He wears the cowboy hat and he
bellies up to the bar and he makes those jokes.
And here's the thing, though, I've watched interviews with this
guy in the past to kind of figure out who
he is.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And he's the one who said it. He said, you
know what, I only make these jokes because they land.
If they don't, I'm in trouble like that. He lives
on that edge. Yeah, but what happens if they don't land? Well,
we saw because now all of a sudden, Donald Trump
has to try to the nine knowing this guy which
has happened. You know, I hate to draw the I
hate to draw the Last Supper correlation, right, But it's
(05:06):
just like, at some point one of you is going
to deny me. Jesus Christ said it himself, right, you
have to do what's best for you in those situations.
According to Jesus, he said it yourself, and you shouldn't,
but you do it anyway. Well, somebody hired Tony Hinchcliffe
to tell a bunch of jokes at this MSG rally
that in and of itself comedian at a rally for politics. Yeah,
(05:27):
where are we at here? That seems like a really
stupid decision. I just being one hundred percent honest, that's
my opinion. I don't know why in the world you
would do that specifically him.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Hulk Hogan a notorious liar. I like watching Hulk Cogan matches.
The guy was crazy, hul Comania, run in a wild Hollywood,
Hulk Cogan the nWo. I like the guy as a
professional wrestler. Everyone who knows hul Cogan gets what they
say about him. Now, Yeah, he is a pathological liar.
(05:56):
What is he doing for Donald Trump? When he goes
on that stage and struggles to rip the shirt off?
What are we doing here just because he sold out
Madison Square Garden and beat the Iron Chic for the
World Wrestling Federation Championship in front of us sold out
eighteen thousand person crowd back in nineteen eighty four. Yes,
I know my wrestling history that. I mean, he needs
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to be on stage in twenty twenty four, forty years
after that to pine for a presidential candidate and struggle
to take the shirt off.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He's making us all look stupid.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And then Tony Hinchcliff goes on stage and it's the
Puerto Rico joke that everybody's talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
But it's it's it. I mean, it's pretty much the
whole set were people there.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I mean, like, what are Republicans trying to avoid being
lumped in with that? I think most certainly the first
thing is racism. And I'm not trying to tell you, ay,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
We need to cal him down.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Jad Vans yesterday said, hey, look, it may have been
a racist joke, it may not have been a racist joke.
But when did we start getting so offended by stuff
in this country? I have to under I have to
tell you fifteen years ago It probably isn't a big deal.
It probably isn't a big deal. You watch any Family
Guy or Simpsons or American Dad or South Park from
any time in the two thousands, who they're going after everybody?
(07:11):
You want to know something else though, Matt, guess what,
guess what they may be going after everybody. But people
were generally just okay with that kind of comedy. Then
times have changed. There's an election on the line, and
you put a guy that's telling these jokes at a
Republican event that Donald Trump is at a week before
the election. Who's making these decisions? Yeah, well, I'll tell
(07:31):
you what Trump has to say, because he basically says
I have no idea who this guy is. I'll explain
what he's saying and if it's going to matter coming
up next, and if you want to call in, we'll
open the phone lines momentarily. So stick around on news
Radio eleven to ten kfab Emery Sunger. What can we
know about him from what he's been fair? I mean,
he had his first Netflix special almost ten years ago now,
(07:53):
so he's been in the comedy world for a while.
To him potentially putting Donald Trump's campaign in danger of
losing the election.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah. So Tony Hitchcliff a comedian out of Austin. He is.
He's a part like I mentioned before, he's kind of
a part of that Joe Rogan's fear of friends and influence.
He's down there in Austin. It's very common. He has
a podcast called Kill Tony. And this podcast basically is
a Now, when I say podcasts, a lot of people think, oh,
(08:22):
that's just something online that I click on. It's just audio. Now,
this is a YouTube thing, so it's something that people
watch and it's episodic and you can you can find
it on YouTube. Although if you weren't a fan of
his comedy on the stage that night, you're not going
to be a fan of this either, because it's much
of the same. It can be pretty degrading stuff. And
I'm not sitting here saying that I'm a fan of it.
I'm just aware of it, right, And there.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Must be a fan of it because he's famous, right,
there's got to be a laye in there.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Not on retweets or endorsements, you know what I mean. Like,
just because I know about it doesn't mean I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And Donald Trump's campaign basically said the same thing you
just said, right, you know, I mean Donald Trump basically said, hey,
I don't even know who this guy is. The campaign said, hey,
his views don't necessarily line up with the views of
the Trump campaign. I just want to know who put
him up there, knowing that this was likely something he
was probably going to lead into. And for what what's
the best case scenario here? The people in Madison Square Garden,
who's already they to support Donald Trump? They laugh, well,
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and then that's the thing, like I could only imagine. So,
you know, I mean, already one of the most watched
things on YouTube. It's got very many millions of views
at this point. The interview that Trump did with Rogan,
the almost three hour interview that they did, that kind
of set the Internet a blaze. And there are going
to be older people right now listening to this. This
(09:33):
is just you know, I mean, it's it's a younger demographic, right,
So we're talking about things that are maybe maybe more
of a younger demographic that are tuning into this. So
the Joe Rogan, a prominent guy who has a show
that's podcasted across all platforms.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
A lot of people watch it on YouTube. So that's
why I keep mentioning YouTube. But it's on a lot
of a lot of platforms you can find, so he
he went on there. But it's very common for people
who are guests on the Joe Rogan Show to then
go on the comedy show that is Tony Hinchcliffe's show
the next night or even that night, And so I
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wouldn't be surprised if that's kind of how this all
came together, because it's what kill Tony's show is is
a show where himself, Tony and a panel of celebrity
guests will basically sit and listen to If anyone ever
has been to an open mic comedy night, they have
them here in Omaha. That's basically I mean, that's an
(10:30):
unsettling place to be already.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, it takes a lot of guts to get up
there and take the open mic expecting to hopefully get
people to laugh.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It does.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's a very sink or swim thing. If anyone's been
to one, you know, it's a very sink or swim thing.
Some people make the crowd laugh, other people just make
the crowd go silent for a while and then maybe
after they're off the stage, they're laughing amongst themselves. And hey,
you know what, I've I've tried that a few times
myself and been on both ends of that spectrum. Right,
But that's the risk. Yeah, it's the game you play.
So what you're doing this.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Time, you know, you're sitting in front of people who
allegedly know comedy.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Right, and so this is basically like a comedy open
mic on steroids. This show that he has in Austin,
it's it's there's a giant crowd of people and then
many people put their name in the hat and they
get to go up there. And so theoretically, if this
show is being filmed tomorrow, you could go down there
tomorrow and maybe get on you know, a very prominent
YouTube show. Like that's just how this works.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And then if you nail it, you could be you
can be be moving, Yeah, I mean, this could be
a way to get you noticed by a lot of
different people. People have legitimately like made some fame for
themselves since this show has existed by basically doing that
a very thing. And then if it doesn't go well,
then you just get made fun of by this guy Tony,
who is he considers himself a roast master comedian, like
(11:44):
and he's been on the roasts, Yeah, and he that's
his lane of things. Think Jeffrey Ross, if you know
who that comedian is. People who just are really good
at basically making fun of people. And again, like, that's
not my cup of tea for comedy.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
There's a lane.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
There's a lane of that for a lot of reasons.
But that is a kind of comedy out there, and
it's a big lane. I mean, I think people are
somewhat interested. It's just a crazy risk to put a
roast master on the stage at Madison Square Garden ten
days before an election and he's on the stage not
necessarily representing a campaign or a candidate, but he's at
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the event as one of the speakers ahead of the candidate. Yeah,
I don't know. Donald Trump has come out and he said,
I don't know who this guy is. I don't know.
I'm someone put him up there. I don't know who
he is. I have not seen his comments. It wouldn't
actually surprise me if Trump is just being kept out
out of the loop on this they don't like. The
less he knows about it, the better off it probably is.
But man, I'm telling you what there is a giant
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Puerto Rican base in Pennsylvania, and I think that if
they haven't voted yet. I know there's a lot of
early voting in Pennsylvania, but if they haven't voted yet
and they were thinking maybe about Donald Trump or maybe
not voting at all, this is the kind of thing.
It's just like, this is what Republicans do. Let's vote
against them. Inous thing to be doing for whoever hired
this guy. We'll talk more about it. Let's go ahead
and open those phone lines. We'll take calls on it.
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Four oh two five five eight eleven ten four h
two five five eight to eleven ten. At what point
is comedy not no longer comedy instead potentially damaging to
the presidential campaign? I guess that's what we're going to
talk about coming up next on news Radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Hey, Maurice Sung on news Radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
The risk reward factor of having a harsh, roast level
comedian that you know has made a living on Maasonly
making fun of people at your rally for whatever reason. Uh,
just you know, less than two weeks ahead of an
incredibly important election, I want to go ahead and just
get to the phone lines here and talk about four
(13:46):
roh two five five, eight eleven ten. Heyesus is on
a phone line. Hayzus. Welcome to the show today. Thanks
for holding what's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Oh well well let me set the stage first. Thank
you for taking my call.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Harris.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Several weeks ago, there was a Catholic function. Cardinals were there.
People are very prominent people that were in the Catholic Faith. Yeah,
they were there at that They were there raising money
for the Catholic Faith. Lamala Harris was at the rally
promoting her the killing of innocent babies, transgenderism, men competing
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in women's sports, and some guy or somebody in the
crowd he house Christ is Lord, and somebody said, Jesus
is King.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
She says, you're.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
At the wrong rally. That's down, you're at the small
You need to go to the smaller rally just right
down the street. So she makes that joke, but that's
her making the joke, and everybody's laughing, and she's laughing,
and she spits in the face of all people of faith,
(14:58):
and especially my brothers and sister in the Catholic Faith,
which include Puerto Ricans who are very strong in the
Capolic faith, and she spits in their eyes. Sure, I
mean that wasn't covered very much by the mainstream.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
You're right and one, yeah, but but you know why
it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Hey esus and I know that this is I hate
saying it this way, but this is just the way
that it is. It's about the interpretation of it. And
both of those things can exist in independent accesses basically
like they can be that they can both be just
horrifically bad things that we're talking about here. But the
way the way one was delivered to a an audience,
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in the way another was delivered to an audience where everybody,
like you mentioned the Kamala thing, she's she giggles at
it and everybody around her is laughing. I mean yeah,
I was just like, okay, that was stupid, and I
wish that.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
You know, But here's the point.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Here's the point, Emory. Yeah, that was Kamala Harris fitting
in the eye of people in faith.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I know. Yeah, at the Trump rally comedy.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
It was somebody that he didn't really know. I don't
know who put that person on. I agree with you,
was it stupid? Yes, what if I was organizing that yeah,
I wouldn't have put that in. But you're talking about
Kamala doing it and fitting in the eye of Authotholicism
right and people of faith right, And you had somebody
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who Trump didn't even know.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, and I mean I'm picking up you're putting down Jesus.
But just let me counter with this real quick. And
I have other calls. I want to get to here.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I think I understand right.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I think my where I'm at coming from this is
Kamala is saying that. Is that going She's talking really
to the voter base right in a way of like
atheism or just not like, yeah, you can be like
a Christian, or you can go to church and all
this stuff, but we're not going to be here to
you know, raise our hands and pray and all that stuff.
That is such an anti democratic thing these days, which
is really sad that they like part of their identity
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is how unreligious they are. But I think in a
lot of ways, Saesus. When you have a guy in
the style of Tony Hinchcliffe, in the way that he
says things in a very insulting manner, he is saying
it to insult a bunch of people, and there wasn't
much of a reaction at all, And if you laugh
at that, then you're immediately deemed a racist, which I
(17:17):
think across all religions and all political platforms, that is
a bad, bad thing.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
The risk reward factor.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I'm with you, they're both bad things, but risk reward
versus what Kamalas said versus risk reward with Tony Hinchcliffe
said at the Trump rally, I think those are on
different scales. Now, I agree with you. I think they're
both like dumb and stupid, and I'm not a fan
of either of them. But at the same time, I
think that we have to talk about what could potentially
be lost with both of them, and I just I'm
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not sure that there's really anything that got lost by
kamala Is saying that I appreciate the call there, Jesus,
I got to move on. I need a step aside.
I messed up my timing. We have a ton of
ads that we have to get to because of the
stretch run of the election season. But Rod, Brian and
everybody was calling in, I'm going to get to you
immediately to stick right there. On news Radio eleven ten,
kfab and.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Ray's songer on news radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Hey, Hi am Marie, thanks for taking my call and
the great show.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Hey, I just wanted to mention on that comedian at
the Madison Square Garden. Most of the people there probably
didn't think nothing of it, and also the ones watching
on TV didn't think nothing of it, And there might
have been some truth to the thing, because Puerto Rico
does have a bunch of trash piles and a little
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bit of health concerns because of all the trash that
is there.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, and I'm hearing that, Rod, I.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Want to go ahead, and then also I just want
to close with then the late night, late night talk show,
which is supposed to be comedy, look who they make
fun of and really mess with Donald.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Trump And Rod, I'm not here to debate any of
that because you're right on a lot of that stuff.
Especially I don't know what exactly is happening in Puerto
Rico this very moment, and I know that it was
said in jest. It was supposed to get a laugh
out of the crowd, but the way it was delivered
and then the response to it, there was just no
positives to this, like the gain, the risk reward to
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having a comedian that literally is known for roasting people
and things and having him just make fun of a
bunch of stuff before Donald Trump speaks at a sold
out Madison Square garden ten days before an election. I'm
just not seeing where the reward would have been, even
if people took it as a joke.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
But you're right, I mean it's not.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
But we don't live in a fair world where what's
good for the goose should be good for the gander.
They make fun of Donald Trump, and they do it
in offensive ways all the time, and we're supposed to
just you know, sit back and take you know, being
made fun of if you're a Republican. That's just it.
It's not a fair game. As Billy being said in Moneyball,
we play an unfair game. And you just can't be
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taking chances like that when this election is this close
and then hope that and if you happen to win,
that's great. If you lose, you're the first thing you're
going to blame is the fact that the polling was bad.
I don't know, it makes that it's just too close
to be messing around with this stuff. Let's get to
Brian real quick. Brian thanks for holding what's on your
mind about this?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Well, Kamala was dealing with some Abbi abortion hickler's at
her rally much more gently than Donald deals with disruptors
at his rally. And if you look up Trump Comic
Tunnel Prompter or Trump Comic Reviewed, you can see how
the campaign full well what the comic was going to say.
(20:35):
The only objection was they had him take out a
joke where he called Harris the four letter C word,
and they would say also that, well, Kamala had eminem
at her rally. Yeah, but he didn't say the words
that he says on his albums at a rally, and
the campaign and.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Him, right, Brian, I'm not going to agree with you
that it shouldn't be both ways that we look at
this stuff, but I will agree with you that there
certainly was somebody in the Trump campaign that hired this
guy that knows his background. This wasn't just this guy
wandered up on stage and was like, yeah, I'm gonna
tell some jokes.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I don't know if you've seen my work, but I
actually am quite a roasting kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Let's go ahead and make fun of some people.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I'm sure they were familiar with his work, and I'm
sure that they didn't see this being like a super
high profile flop in terms of people trying to not
just cancel Tony Hinchcliffe, but also say, this is what
the Republicans say. They say racist stuff, and they try
to get away with it and pass it off as jokes.
It's just not the right time for that. Republicans try
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way too hard in order to be able to do
this in a way that we can govern this country
without everybody's just saying that everybody who's conservative is a racist,
because they're not. But when you have a guy like
Hinchcliffe go up there and tell joke like that, even
if there may be some truth to it or whatever,
there's just nothing to gain and everything to lose. It
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just crazy to me. We'll have more on the way
stick around news Radio. Elevnton KFB
Here's a Tuesday cheers for you, Tuesday, cheers to you.
It's World stroke Day today, by the way. Okay, big
big day in the rowing world. I think, is that
what it's a big day? Probably not the kinds of yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I don't want to be the guy that makes
really bad jokes that people hate on for right, that's
how you get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We want to be respectful. Speaking of over.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
The weekend, there was that big Madison Square Garden rally
that everybody was talking about. Everybody was going crazy about.
It's like, oh, this is like a Nazi rally. It's like, hey,
anybody who says that, you just shut up.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
You're just saying stuff because you hate these people. It's
a it's a it's a blind hate to anything that
the Republicans do, no matter what it is.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
But there was one person that kind of stole the
headlines coming out of this whole thing. Do you know
who I'm talking about here?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, well, this guy who makes jokes for a living. Yeah,
don't call him Tony Soprano, I think was what you mean.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
His name is Tone Hinchcliff. Yeah, that guy, Tony Hinchcliff.
He's a forty year old American comedian. He's got a
comedy podcast called Kill Tony.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But he's not dead yet, So can you kill that
one out? Have you listened to Kill Tony before?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I feel like today's a good day to plead the fifth. Oh,
come on, I have never heard of the guy. No,
it sounds like a terrible person. The sixth, the seventh,
the eighth, the night, I'd like to plead them all.
At least three of those have nothing to do with this.
Uh no, seriously, right, Yeah, you've heard of this guy.
I've heard of him. He's part of the He's part
(01:38):
of the Austin comedy movement, you know, and wrote it's
part of that too.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
There was a moment in the pandemic when a whole
bunch of people from California who had semi prominent podcasts
and we're kind of in the comedy world there, decided
to uproot from California just because of some of the
restrictive COVID laws, and they moved to Austin and since
then have actually started a couple of comedy clubs down
(02:04):
there and have started a little bit of a like. Okay,
let me put it this way. If you were a
comedian who was looking for his break in in this
country at one time, it would have been smart. Probably
maybe you go to Chicago first, then you go to
New York. Maybe eventually you go to l A. Well,
these days you go straight to Austin. Like, Austin is
(02:25):
a viable place to to get yourself on the map
as a comedian. And and and this guy who you're
talking about is part of why that is.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well, he's famous as a comedian. He's been on Comedy
Central and Netflix gave him a couple of specials.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And and he's been canceled before.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, this is not the first time. I mean, he
was on game Day two weeks ago. He can call
it in Austin, Texas. Seriously, they were at the Texas
game Texas, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, he was the he was He's a guy. He
showed up. He made a bunch of gay jokes there. Really, Yeah,
I had no idea. It's not surprising. The guy makes
a living off of you laughing at stuff that you're
not supposed to laugh at. I think is his his stick.
That's that I don't watch a lot of comedy. I'm
not well versed in the comedy where. This is why
(03:15):
I brought you in on this, because I wanted to
let it Simmerford. I was gonna jump in here and
start talking about a dumb comedian. On Monday, when we
had a whole week and stuff to talk about, we
had great phone calls talking about, you know, election rhetoric
and election rules and election legitimacy, and it was a
good conversation. Today, I want to talk about the comedian. Okay, well,
(03:35):
I love comedy. So where's Hedgecliffe. Where's Hingecliffe style comedy
comedy for you? I'm gonna I'm gonna put put it
out there. There's not a lot of guys like this
right now where there's like he is intentionally trying to
step over every possible line, yes, with the intent of
trying to get people to laugh at stuff that they're
not supposed to laugh at.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Like that's that is his. And I've looked into the
guy before before this happened, because I was curious about
that whole kill Tony movement down there in Austin. He's
a part of a burgeoning comedy scene down there.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And this is not a guy that when you look
at him, he's like an overtly noticeable guy. I mean,
this is just the reason I think a lot of
the the jokes and stuff come off is even more
shocking than they even are, is because this guy just
looks like a regular guy. And you wouldn't you wouldn't
it was like a geek almost. Well, and I think
that he kind of lives off of that sort of
juxtaposition that is inherently kind of funny. Right, It's like
(04:27):
the basically it's it's almost like the nerd roast in
the jocks, right, a little bit right, you know, And
he owns that. He wears the cowboy hat and he
bellies up to the bar and he makes those jokes.
And here's the thing, though, I've watched interviews with this
guy in the past to kind of figure out who
he is.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And he's the one who said it. He said, you
know what, I only make these jokes because they land.
If they don't, I'm in trouble like that. He lives
on that edge. Yeah, but what happens if they don't land? Well,
we saw because now all of a sudden, Donald Trump
has to try to the nine knowing this guy which
has happened. You know, I hate to draw the I
hate to draw the Last Supper correlation, right, But it's
(05:06):
just like, at some point one of you is going
to deny me. Jesus Christ said it himself, right, you
have to do what's best for you in those situations.
According to Jesus, he said it yourself, and you shouldn't,
but you do it anyway. Well, somebody hired Tony Hinchcliffe
to tell a bunch of jokes at this MSG rally
that in and of itself comedian at a rally for politics. Yeah,
(05:27):
where are we at here? That seems like a really
stupid decision. I just being one hundred percent honest, that's
my opinion. I don't know why in the world you
would do that specifically him.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Hulk Hogan a notorious liar. I like watching Hulk Cogan matches.
The guy was crazy, hul Comania, run in a wild Hollywood,
Hulk Cogan the nWo. I like the guy as a
professional wrestler. Everyone who knows hul Cogan gets what they
say about him. Now, Yeah, he is a pathological liar.
(05:56):
What is he doing for Donald Trump? When he goes
on that stage and struggles to rip the shirt off?
What are we doing here just because he sold out
Madison Square Garden and beat the Iron Chic for the
World Wrestling Federation Championship in front of us sold out
eighteen thousand person crowd back in nineteen eighty four. Yes,
I know my wrestling history that. I mean, he needs
(06:17):
to be on stage in twenty twenty four, forty years
after that to pine for a presidential candidate and struggle
to take the shirt off.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He's making us all look stupid.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And then Tony Hinchcliff goes on stage and it's the
Puerto Rico joke that everybody's talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
But it's it's it. I mean, it's pretty much the
whole set were people there.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I mean, like, what are Republicans trying to avoid being
lumped in with that? I think most certainly the first
thing is racism. And I'm not trying to tell you, ay,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
We need to cal him down.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Jad Vans yesterday said, hey, look, it may have been
a racist joke, it may not have been a racist joke.
But when did we start getting so offended by stuff
in this country? I have to under I have to
tell you fifteen years ago It probably isn't a big deal.
It probably isn't a big deal. You watch any Family
Guy or Simpsons or American Dad or South Park from
any time in the two thousands, who they're going after everybody?
(07:11):
You want to know something else though, Matt, guess what,
guess what they may be going after everybody. But people
were generally just okay with that kind of comedy. Then
times have changed. There's an election on the line, and
you put a guy that's telling these jokes at a
Republican event that Donald Trump is at a week before
the election. Who's making these decisions? Yeah, well, I'll tell
(07:31):
you what Trump has to say, because he basically says
I have no idea who this guy is. I'll explain
what he's saying and if it's going to matter coming
up next, and if you want to call in, we'll
open the phone lines momentarily. So stick around on news
Radio eleven to ten kfab Emery Sunger. What can we
know about him from what he's been fair? I mean,
he had his first Netflix special almost ten years ago now,
(07:53):
so he's been in the comedy world for a while.
To him potentially putting Donald Trump's campaign in danger of
losing the election.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah. So Tony Hitchcliff a comedian out of Austin. He is.
He's a part like I mentioned before, he's kind of
a part of that Joe Rogan's fear of friends and influence.
He's down there in Austin. It's very common. He has
a podcast called Kill Tony. And this podcast basically is
a Now, when I say podcasts, a lot of people think, oh,
(08:22):
that's just something online that I click on. It's just audio. Now,
this is a YouTube thing, so it's something that people
watch and it's episodic and you can you can find
it on YouTube. Although if you weren't a fan of
his comedy on the stage that night, you're not going
to be a fan of this either, because it's much
of the same. It can be pretty degrading stuff. And
I'm not sitting here saying that I'm a fan of it.
I'm just aware of it, right, And there.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Must be a fan of it because he's famous, right,
there's got to be a laye in there.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Not on retweets or endorsements, you know what I mean. Like,
just because I know about it doesn't mean I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And Donald Trump's campaign basically said the same thing you
just said, right, you know, I mean Donald Trump basically said, hey,
I don't even know who this guy is. The campaign said, hey,
his views don't necessarily line up with the views of
the Trump campaign. I just want to know who put
him up there, knowing that this was likely something he
was probably going to lead into. And for what what's
the best case scenario here? The people in Madison Square Garden,
who's already they to support Donald Trump? They laugh, well,
(09:13):
and then that's the thing, like I could only imagine. So,
you know, I mean, already one of the most watched
things on YouTube. It's got very many millions of views
at this point. The interview that Trump did with Rogan,
the almost three hour interview that they did, that kind
of set the Internet a blaze. And there are going
to be older people right now listening to this. This
(09:33):
is just you know, I mean, it's it's a younger demographic, right,
So we're talking about things that are maybe maybe more
of a younger demographic that are tuning into this. So
the Joe Rogan, a prominent guy who has a show
that's podcasted across all platforms.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
A lot of people watch it on YouTube. So that's
why I keep mentioning YouTube. But it's on a lot
of a lot of platforms you can find, so he
he went on there. But it's very common for people
who are guests on the Joe Rogan Show to then
go on the comedy show that is Tony Hinchcliffe's show
the next night or even that night, And so I
(10:07):
wouldn't be surprised if that's kind of how this all
came together, because it's what kill Tony's show is is
a show where himself, Tony and a panel of celebrity
guests will basically sit and listen to If anyone ever
has been to an open mic comedy night, they have
them here in Omaha. That's basically I mean, that's an
(10:30):
unsettling place to be already.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, it takes a lot of guts to get up
there and take the open mic expecting to hopefully get
people to laugh.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It does.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's a very sink or swim thing. If anyone's been
to one, you know, it's a very sink or swim thing.
Some people make the crowd laugh, other people just make
the crowd go silent for a while and then maybe
after they're off the stage, they're laughing amongst themselves. And hey,
you know what, I've I've tried that a few times
myself and been on both ends of that spectrum. Right,
But that's the risk. Yeah, it's the game you play.
So what you're doing this.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Time, you know, you're sitting in front of people who
allegedly know comedy.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Right, and so this is basically like a comedy open
mic on steroids. This show that he has in Austin,
it's it's there's a giant crowd of people and then
many people put their name in the hat and they
get to go up there. And so theoretically, if this
show is being filmed tomorrow, you could go down there
tomorrow and maybe get on you know, a very prominent
YouTube show. Like that's just how this works.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And then if you nail it, you could be you
can be be moving, Yeah, I mean, this could be
a way to get you noticed by a lot of
different people. People have legitimately like made some fame for
themselves since this show has existed by basically doing that
a very thing. And then if it doesn't go well,
then you just get made fun of by this guy Tony,
who is he considers himself a roast master comedian, like
(11:44):
and he's been on the roasts, Yeah, and he that's
his lane of things. Think Jeffrey Ross, if you know
who that comedian is. People who just are really good
at basically making fun of people. And again, like, that's
not my cup of tea for comedy.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
There's a lane.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
There's a lane of that for a lot of reasons.
But that is a kind of comedy out there, and
it's a big lane. I mean, I think people are
somewhat interested. It's just a crazy risk to put a
roast master on the stage at Madison Square Garden ten
days before an election and he's on the stage not
necessarily representing a campaign or a candidate, but he's at
(12:23):
the event as one of the speakers ahead of the candidate. Yeah,
I don't know. Donald Trump has come out and he said,
I don't know who this guy is. I don't know.
I'm someone put him up there. I don't know who
he is. I have not seen his comments. It wouldn't
actually surprise me if Trump is just being kept out
out of the loop on this they don't like. The
less he knows about it, the better off it probably is.
But man, I'm telling you what there is a giant
(12:45):
Puerto Rican base in Pennsylvania, and I think that if
they haven't voted yet. I know there's a lot of
early voting in Pennsylvania, but if they haven't voted yet
and they were thinking maybe about Donald Trump or maybe
not voting at all, this is the kind of thing.
It's just like, this is what Republicans do. Let's vote
against them. Inous thing to be doing for whoever hired
this guy. We'll talk more about it. Let's go ahead
and open those phone lines. We'll take calls on it.
(13:06):
Four oh two five five eight eleven ten four h
two five five eight to eleven ten. At what point
is comedy not no longer comedy instead potentially damaging to
the presidential campaign? I guess that's what we're going to
talk about coming up next on news Radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Hey, Maurice Sung on news Radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
The risk reward factor of having a harsh, roast level
comedian that you know has made a living on Maasonly
making fun of people at your rally for whatever reason. Uh,
just you know, less than two weeks ahead of an
incredibly important election, I want to go ahead and just
get to the phone lines here and talk about four
(13:46):
roh two five five, eight eleven ten. Heyesus is on
a phone line. Hayzus. Welcome to the show today. Thanks
for holding what's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Oh well well let me set the stage first. Thank
you for taking my call.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Harris.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Several weeks ago, there was a Catholic function. Cardinals were there.
People are very prominent people that were in the Catholic Faith. Yeah,
they were there at that They were there raising money
for the Catholic Faith. Lamala Harris was at the rally
promoting her the killing of innocent babies, transgenderism, men competing
(14:25):
in women's sports, and some guy or somebody in the
crowd he house Christ is Lord, and somebody said, Jesus
is King.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
She says, you're.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
At the wrong rally. That's down, you're at the small
You need to go to the smaller rally just right
down the street. So she makes that joke, but that's
her making the joke, and everybody's laughing, and she's laughing,
and she spits in the face of all people of faith,
(14:58):
and especially my brothers and sister in the Catholic Faith,
which include Puerto Ricans who are very strong in the
Capolic faith, and she spits in their eyes. Sure, I
mean that wasn't covered very much by the mainstream.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
You're right and one, yeah, but but you know why
it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Hey esus and I know that this is I hate
saying it this way, but this is just the way
that it is. It's about the interpretation of it. And
both of those things can exist in independent accesses basically
like they can be that they can both be just
horrifically bad things that we're talking about here. But the
way the way one was delivered to a an audience,
(15:40):
in the way another was delivered to an audience where everybody,
like you mentioned the Kamala thing, she's she giggles at
it and everybody around her is laughing. I mean yeah,
I was just like, okay, that was stupid, and I
wish that.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
You know, But here's the point.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Here's the point, Emory. Yeah, that was Kamala Harris fitting
in the eye of people in faith.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I know. Yeah, at the Trump rally comedy.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
It was somebody that he didn't really know. I don't
know who put that person on. I agree with you,
was it stupid? Yes, what if I was organizing that yeah,
I wouldn't have put that in. But you're talking about
Kamala doing it and fitting in the eye of Authotholicism
right and people of faith right, And you had somebody
(16:25):
who Trump didn't even know.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, and I mean I'm picking up you're putting down Jesus.
But just let me counter with this real quick. And
I have other calls. I want to get to here.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I think I understand right.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I think my where I'm at coming from this is
Kamala is saying that. Is that going She's talking really
to the voter base right in a way of like
atheism or just not like, yeah, you can be like
a Christian, or you can go to church and all
this stuff, but we're not going to be here to
you know, raise our hands and pray and all that stuff.
That is such an anti democratic thing these days, which
is really sad that they like part of their identity
(16:56):
is how unreligious they are. But I think in a
lot of ways, Saesus. When you have a guy in
the style of Tony Hinchcliffe, in the way that he
says things in a very insulting manner, he is saying
it to insult a bunch of people, and there wasn't
much of a reaction at all, And if you laugh
at that, then you're immediately deemed a racist, which I
(17:17):
think across all religions and all political platforms, that is
a bad, bad thing.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
The risk reward factor.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I'm with you, they're both bad things, but risk reward
versus what Kamalas said versus risk reward with Tony Hinchcliffe
said at the Trump rally, I think those are on
different scales. Now, I agree with you. I think they're
both like dumb and stupid, and I'm not a fan
of either of them. But at the same time, I
think that we have to talk about what could potentially
be lost with both of them, and I just I'm
(17:44):
not sure that there's really anything that got lost by
kamala Is saying that I appreciate the call there, Jesus,
I got to move on. I need a step aside.
I messed up my timing. We have a ton of
ads that we have to get to because of the
stretch run of the election season. But Rod, Brian and
everybody was calling in, I'm going to get to you
immediately to stick right there. On news Radio eleven ten,
kfab and.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Ray's songer on news radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Hey, Hi am Marie, thanks for taking my call and
the great show.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Hey, I just wanted to mention on that comedian at
the Madison Square Garden. Most of the people there probably
didn't think nothing of it, and also the ones watching
on TV didn't think nothing of it, And there might
have been some truth to the thing, because Puerto Rico
does have a bunch of trash piles and a little
(18:37):
bit of health concerns because of all the trash that
is there.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, and I'm hearing that, Rod, I.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Want to go ahead, and then also I just want
to close with then the late night, late night talk show,
which is supposed to be comedy, look who they make
fun of and really mess with Donald.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Trump And Rod, I'm not here to debate any of
that because you're right on a lot of that stuff.
Especially I don't know what exactly is happening in Puerto
Rico this very moment, and I know that it was
said in jest. It was supposed to get a laugh
out of the crowd, but the way it was delivered
and then the response to it, there was just no
positives to this, like the gain, the risk reward to
(19:18):
having a comedian that literally is known for roasting people
and things and having him just make fun of a
bunch of stuff before Donald Trump speaks at a sold
out Madison Square garden ten days before an election. I'm
just not seeing where the reward would have been, even
if people took it as a joke.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
But you're right, I mean it's not.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
But we don't live in a fair world where what's
good for the goose should be good for the gander.
They make fun of Donald Trump, and they do it
in offensive ways all the time, and we're supposed to
just you know, sit back and take you know, being
made fun of if you're a Republican. That's just it.
It's not a fair game. As Billy being said in Moneyball,
we play an unfair game. And you just can't be
(19:56):
taking chances like that when this election is this close
and then hope that and if you happen to win,
that's great. If you lose, you're the first thing you're
going to blame is the fact that the polling was bad.
I don't know, it makes that it's just too close
to be messing around with this stuff. Let's get to
Brian real quick. Brian thanks for holding what's on your
mind about this?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Well, Kamala was dealing with some Abbi abortion hickler's at
her rally much more gently than Donald deals with disruptors
at his rally. And if you look up Trump Comic
Tunnel Prompter or Trump Comic Reviewed, you can see how
the campaign full well what the comic was going to say.
(20:35):
The only objection was they had him take out a
joke where he called Harris the four letter C word,
and they would say also that, well, Kamala had eminem
at her rally. Yeah, but he didn't say the words
that he says on his albums at a rally, and
the campaign and.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Him, right, Brian, I'm not going to agree with you
that it shouldn't be both ways that we look at
this stuff, but I will agree with you that there
certainly was somebody in the Trump campaign that hired this
guy that knows his background. This wasn't just this guy
wandered up on stage and was like, yeah, I'm gonna
tell some jokes.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I don't know if you've seen my work, but I
actually am quite a roasting kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Let's go ahead and make fun of some people.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I'm sure they were familiar with his work, and I'm
sure that they didn't see this being like a super
high profile flop in terms of people trying to not
just cancel Tony Hinchcliffe, but also say, this is what
the Republicans say. They say racist stuff, and they try
to get away with it and pass it off as jokes.
It's just not the right time for that. Republicans try
(21:37):
way too hard in order to be able to do
this in a way that we can govern this country
without everybody's just saying that everybody who's conservative is a racist,
because they're not. But when you have a guy like
Hinchcliffe go up there and tell joke like that, even
if there may be some truth to it or whatever,
there's just nothing to gain and everything to lose. It
(21:58):
just crazy to me. We'll have more on the way
stick around news Radio. Elevnton KFB
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