The Cabinet Grows..

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What do we what do we? Where do we start?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Like?

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Where? Where? Where should we start? Today? Well, when mommy
and daddy love each other?

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Not?

Speaker 4 (00:07):
I thought, all right, different tops, Sorry now stop it,
different topic, my bad.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Nobody needs to know that.

Speaker 5 (00:15):
Okay, uh uh Trump Trump back in the White House.
Let's go there, Like I just flipped the corn in
my head because we'll talk about the Senate vote here
because I know that's going to fire people up, and
I want phone calls when that happens. I'm gonna I'm
gonna go ahead, and I'm just gonna preemptively shut the
phones off. So if you call in right now, I

(00:36):
turned them on just to turn them back off. I
just I want us to focus real quick. I sent
you some audio from when Trump and Biden got together.
Did you get the whole thing? I sent you a
minute of audio I got. I got the I got
the whole thing. Okay, so after about forty seconds, I
may tell you to like quiet it down because it's
a circus in there.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
That was my favorite part.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
So so here's let's paint the picture here and I'll
talk a little bit more about this, this situation right
of of how do we how do we describe this
a handoff or like the beginning of a handoff. To me,
I think, uh, the best way to put this is
Trump's emergence is he's the president elect, but he's he's

(01:21):
going in like, hey, I'm gonna be the president. And
what was Joe Biden going to react? And we kind
of talked about this, and I guess my biggest thing
of most of that was where they not not specifically
if they were just gonna adapt, but like if they were,
they were gonna be, you know, talking to each other
in a way that makes people feel like, hey, they're

(01:41):
actually kind of they're chums. They're all chums, they like
each other. And here's kind of how the meeting started
and how it sounded.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
And just take a listen.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
You got it listening close at the beginning because Joe's
a little bit quiet on the air and they're not
miked up or anything. They're sitting in the Oval office.
But it starts with Joe and I'll tell you what
we're looking at hereafter.

Speaker 6 (02:05):
Looking forward to having a like we said, it's smooth
transition to everything.

Speaker 7 (02:10):
We can make sure you're accommodated what you need.

Speaker 6 (02:13):
We're gonna get a chance to talk well somebout today.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's good, welcome, thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 8 (02:20):
And politics is tough, and it's many cases not a
very nice world, but it is a nice world today
and I appreciate very much.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
And a transition that's so smooth.

Speaker 9 (02:32):
It'll be as smooth as it can get.

Speaker 10 (02:34):
And I very much appreciate that.

Speaker 7 (02:36):
Joe, you all, thank you all.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
And they're laughing, they're saying, they're smiling at each other,
laughing because nobody can understand a darn thing because there's
fifty people. And this is what I was telling you
about yesterday. I remember I was telling you about the
annoying sounds that are going to be in this room.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
That's a perfect example of why teacher tells us to
raise our hand, right. Yes, yes, they forgot that lesson.
How is no one just like moderating that part? Maybe
the problem is with journalism in this country. None of
them actually went to school ever, Like that's the first
lesson you learned? Did they never go to school? I
think all the journals. You know what, what's that movie
Billy Madison? Yeah, let's send every journalist back through school

(03:24):
Billy Madison style?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Does that count? Us.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
No, we're not journalists technically, but you took some journalism
school classes, or I took one class. I've been a journalist.
I don't know if I call this job a journalism job.
I wouldn't respect me as a journalist personally. Who do
you respect you?

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Now?

Speaker 4 (03:43):
It's a loaded question. Why don't I sit on the couch?
What's your COPEI sheesh.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
You were the guy yesterday they'll pined. Does anything matter
at all that I was being facetious?

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Because now that's a I'm glad you brought it up
because radio folks maybe thought, oh, man, what's what what's
going on with producer Matt? Is he reading Ecclesiastes all
of a sudden, Oh the Ecclesiastes? Yeah, getting a little ecclesiastical.
I was only being a bit facetious, sarcastic, sardonic. I
don't think I was being sardonic, but I just love
that word, because what you said. I felt like, it's like, well,

(04:17):
what's the point of anything? What's the point of game shows? Well,
the game shows are the point of game shows.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
That doesn't make sense. You can't use a word to
define a word. What's the point of fun? Fun? Fund's
the point of fun.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
You can't define stuff with the same term, right, That
doesn't make sense. What I'm saying here is when they
took the circus away.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Look what happened in Rome. Don't take our game shows away.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
Is that what happened the fall of the Roman Empire
is directly correlated to the circus leaving town.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Get out of here. That's what I've heard. Yeah, well,
I think you need to read another book.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
The circus left town. People got bored and then they started,
you know, well, speaking of circus. This was a circus
in the White House, in the Oval Office. Today is
the circus over. These guys were smiling, they were chit chatting,
They were you know, like they were just missing the
abbot and costello like arm elbow arms. I'm just like,
you know, nudging each other. Are we fools for feeling?

(05:05):
And I say we colloquially because I don't feel like
I fall for this. I don't take politics that seriously.
I don't I take the stuff that we hear from
our politicians with a major grain of salt. Just like
when Matt Ruhle walks up to the podium and talks
about you know, hey, we're really focused on the next game,
and you know all that coach speak and you know,
one play at a time and all that stuff is
just like okay, yeah, but there's other stuff going on

(05:26):
behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
He doesn't want to say it. Yeah, but that's Matt rule.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah, but that's also Matt Campbell and Kirk Ferns and
any other major collegiate football coach for the most part. Okay,
coach speak, that's what we call it. Coach speak. You
get politics speak or political speak or politicians speak kay
and kay in the like okay, not kay as in
like why in Spanish. I just I want us to

(05:49):
understand something. These are human beings and we look at
them like there's some sort of either demagogue or maybe
like like what's the best way to describe it. They're
kind of like, you knowelebrity worship, and how weird that is.
You know that there are people literally paid to just
follow Taylor Swift around and like report on what she's
up to. That's weird to me. Okay, but that's a
thing that people are into. We've gotten that into our

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politics all of a sudden, like we meddled our celebrity
worship into like politics, and it's not even like so
many people aren't even that attached to specific policies. They're
into specific talking points, and they're into specific candidates, specifically
Donald Trump, and I get it, and it's fine, Like
I don't think this is that Like, I don't think
it's a big deal that you feel that way. I

(06:33):
think it's a big deal that we put so much
like true volatility and hostility into these political conversations to
where both sides have to tell people don't be ending
friendships and relationships with people and ruining your family relationships
because you guys have different political ideologies. It wasn't that
long ago where that wasn't even a thing. Why is

(06:55):
that a thing now? It shouldn't be a thing now.
I just watched Donald Trump and Joe Biden who were
at each other's threat. It's telling each other or the
country that each other were the worst presidents of all time,
just going after each other. And Donald Trump had a
line of all lines in that politics usually isn't a
nice world. But it's a nice world today.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, when you win. Yeah, but that's not even it, Matt,
what do you mean, it's not it? It's not it?
What happened when he lost.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
That's not what we're talking about, is it not? Joe
Biden lost, and here he is a gracious loser. Now again,
we can talk about the behind the scenes flip floppity
of how he may have gotten a little nudge out
the door, and maybe his personal feelings about those who
made the nudge and those who may have replaced him.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
We don't really know the whole story on that quite yet.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
But let's just say it is on the surface, what
it is a president whose side ends up losing, he
welcomes in this person that there's been a lot of
hostility between him and his political party and that guy's
political party and him personally. And you know what they did.
They shook hands. Donald Trump says straight to Joe Biden.

(08:01):
He looks him straight in the eye. Is it's a
nice day today? Politics is a nice world today? And ah,
that's a good thing for the healing of the United States.
We're talking about unity. If you want to truly unify
this country, we need that kind of conversation between the
people on both sides. I don't even care what the
context is. The more we get more of that, the

(08:22):
less people are gonna feel like they need to be
at each other's throats about these policy issues and less
about trying to break off friendships or relationships because different
people out there think differently than they do. I thought, gosh,
what a great way to start that. Before you know,
the hens all decided they were going to start clucking
at the same time, which, by the way, eventually that
got sorted out and they started taking like apparently one

(08:45):
by one questions, as you figure is probably the best
way to do that exercise.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
They sat down criss cross apple sauce, and they took turns,
just like good little boys and girls.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
I'd like to see what that scene would have been
like the cameras were all on Trump and Biden. I
would have liked to see a camera at the other direction,
just to see what that would have looked like. Maybe
the media core like needs a teacher, you know that
kind of like, you know, let's get Carrie.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
What's she up to nothing now? Right? Carrie? Who? Carrie Lake?

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Oh, and she can be the pressest teacher by being
the press secretary.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
She might be a little biased towards one versus another.
It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
You're kid of your teacher at Favorites two, didn't she Yeah,
that's what I thought she did. Yeah, more of this,
more of this coming up. I gotta hit a break.
More of this coming up. You have no idea what
we're going to talk about. And that Senate leader thing,
I know you're really itching to talk about it. We're
going to get to that too. On news radio eleven
ten kfab.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
Emery Sunger on news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
I hope one day she's the president. I really do.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
And I know there are people out there that will
argue with me because this is not a perfect country,
and everybody has their own opinions and there's no one
perfect candidate. If there's one person in the world that
you want to be president, and you asked that to
one hundred people, there is a good chance you get
one hundred different answers, right like somebody who's not president
right now or will lately, and obviously not Donald Trump,
he's already going to be the president. But pick one
person who you'd like to see be president of the

(10:07):
United States. There's a chance if you ask one hundred people,
you'd get a hundred different answers, like what would your
answer be? For what who would you like to see
be president of the United States one day?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Uh, Crispin Glover. No, that's not my answer.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
That would be a bad right you want to talk
about give that guy the new clear codes she is. No,
that's not my answer. I just wanted to say something funny.
I have no idea it would be my president. Yeah,
just like like I think, if who am I pulling
for to be the president one day, I'd like to
see it. Tulsa Garrett Bingo. Yeah, new Republican, brand new Republican.

(10:38):
Beautiful woman, just beautiful, very in shape. You know why
she's in shape. She serves our country in the military.
She cares about the well being of this nation from
the inside out. She is a huge representative representation.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
I can't even describe to you the asset that she
is for the Republican Party. Like it thrills me that
she decided to escape the handcuffs of the Democratic Party
and can be herself now not just as an independent,
but now as a functioning member of the Republican Party.
And so much so that here, four years after she
was attempting to run to challenge Donald Trump for the presidency,

(11:15):
here she is and she is a part of his staff. Oh,
I couldn't tell. I love that. I love that. And
then they have made the Rubio pick. It sounds like official,
So you got they he is putting together a.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Very strong team, a very strong team.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Man like the A team, the Administration team, the a's
for administration.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
The one thing that was very interesting was the Secretary
of Defense.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Did you see what happened there?

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Pete's Pete haig Sith, the guy who's hosts Fox and
Friends on the weekends. He's the guy that's the one.
I was just what really Pete haig Sith? And yeah,
he has got he's got the uh, he's got the
nod from Donald Trump. Now, he's had a very interesting
life to this point. But it was a Trump supporter.
When Trump ran for office the first time, was considered

(12:06):
to be the leader of the Department of Veterans Affairs,
but they eventually went with David Schulkin instead. But yesterday
or last night, we learned that Pete Haigsith was going
to be this new Secretary of Defense. This is a
guy who has been in the US Army and serving
in the Army National Guard in Minnesota since two thousand
and three. He is a major right now, served in

(12:29):
the Iraq War in Afghanistan. He's got two Bronze Stars,
He's gotten two Army Commendation Medals, National Defense Service Medal,
the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Expert Infantrymen Badge
in the Combat Infantrymen Badge, so he has some decoration
to him. He may not be the most experienced in leadership.
In fact, he has relatively no leadership, especially in politics,

(12:51):
and has been mostly known for being a pundit on
national television more so than anything that he's done in
the military recently. So I wonder I'm be interested to
hear what Donald Trump and what Pete Haig Seth and
anybody else who's a part of this administration in the
know who could explain this. He was the executive director

(13:11):
for Vets for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America and
that's about the extent of his true like administration leadership positions.
So I'm interested. That one, to me is the only
pick that we've heard so far that was I was interested, Like, really,
I did not see that coming. And then the brand

(13:32):
new not governmental agency, but it is going to be
something that kind of operates adjacent to the government. The
brand new Department of Government Efficiency or just like doge Coin. Right,
our guy Elon loves doge coin, and he's been posting
all these memes with doge for doge and he's been
using that as Department of Government Efficiency. Well, Trump created that.

(13:54):
It's not a government agency. We're not quite sure how
it's going to operate, but it's Elon and Vivek Ramaswami
will tag team at the top of whatever that is
to kind of audit I guess how the government is working.
It's a couple of smart minds in the business world.
Those aren't cabinet jobs, which I think some people were wondering,
would those guys have cabinet jobs. That's not necessarily what

(14:14):
this is, but it is just kind of this extra
thing that is going to be kind of watching over
what the government will be doing. What do you think, Matt,
Your face tells me quite a story. It does. Yeah,
it's a weird face. I believe it's quite the painting.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh, come on, you made it weird.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Beauty is objective, yeah, subjective, subject it's subjective.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Yeah, boy, Yeah, it's a tough one.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Started this one off not too.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Well, Hey John Thune, he's the new Senate leader. We'll
probably talked about that. I think people may have some
opinions popped those phone lines open. We'll talk about that
next on news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Emery's songer on news Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Dude, defeat is a major in the army.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
You don't think he's got leadership experience.

Speaker 11 (15:04):
I thought you too had a brain sales.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Between the two of you, But now I'm certain to
wonder have a great day. Yeah, so, Paul h that
wasn't really what I said. I said he didn't have
administrative leadership experience. He hasn't really been in charge of
like a department of something. This isn't a knock on
his military record or what his rank is now, for
whatever it's worth. You know, you look at Lloyd Austin,

(15:27):
who's the current Secretary of Defense.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
He's a general.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
You know, that is a bit of a higher rank
than major, and he's quite accomplished. But there have also
been guys that aren't even military men really by nature,
having served a bunch in the military, who were also
the Secretary of Defense. They worked their way up through
the administration and not necessarily with their army. I just

(15:52):
I said, you know, it was more of a surprise
factor that a guy who I know mostly is a
guy who does Fox and Friends on the weekends on
television being called up to be a pretty important figure
in this administration. And it's just a bit of a surprise.
And he's only forty four years old. He's a younger guy.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
You know.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
He certainly is a loyalist to Trump. No big deal
to me. I'm sure that there was a good reason
why he was given this opportunity. There have been people
with less military experience than him that got this job
in the past. There's also been people who have been generals,
like Lloyd Austin, who's currently in this position. You want
to know how many different secretary of Defenses Trump had
in his.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Four years three that's my guess. Six. Wow.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
Two of them were actually given the job. The other
four of them were just acting like in the interim essentially. Yeah,
the longest one was the original one, that's Jim Mattis.
He made it to January the first twenty nineteen one year,
three hundred and forty five days, nearly two years there.
But that's it's not uncommon, right, Like Barack Obama had

(16:53):
a bunch, right, Like he had three different guys through
two terms in office. You know, Bill Clinton had three guys.
George H. W. Bush had two guys. One of those
was Dick Cheney, by the way, and you know who
the other one was. He was an acting guy for
just sixty days before he gave Dick Cheney the job.
William Howard Taft the fourth Old Tafty, William Howard Taft

(17:13):
the fourth, Old Bathy Taffy. He's the great grandson of
former President William Howard Taft.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
He served as George H. W.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Bush's Secretary of Defense for sixty days in between his
inauguration when he finally got Dick Cheney the job.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Nice. What's William Howard Tafft the fifth up to these days?
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
William Howard Taft the fourth though still alive. He's an
old man now, but yeah, for whatever that's worth. William
Howard Taft the Fifth is his youngest child though his son,
and I don't know. He doesn't have a Wikipedia page anyway.
My point is this is not like, as much as
I want to see this job be very important and

(17:54):
for us to know that each and every one of
these cabinet spots is important. You want to know what
the real meat of the matter is is. I'm just
not so sure the history says that this It doesn't
necessarily like this is a job that changes hands a lot.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Let's just say that it just it just has so,
you know whatever.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
Now that being said, I also got an email from
Sue who wanted to make sure said you're sounding a
bit snarky about heg sith. I'm sorry. I don't like
sounding snarky. He says, graduated from Harvard, went to grad
school at Princeton. He would be a non career politician
and a non military career guy. We need new blood. Okay,
I'm hearing you. It was more of like me being

(18:36):
surprised it did it not come.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Off that way. That's that's how it sounded to me.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Okay, But I think it's kind of helpful that I
can see you right right. You know, like sometimes people
just hear the voice and they make assumptions, and sometimes
people hear what they want to hear because of how
they feel about things already.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
Right, and this guy, I guess me in a trouble too.
You know when I poke fun at somebody that people
already like they don't even listen when I say, they're
just like, oh, he's making one of that person.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
I thought really quickly, little producer's note here that talkback
from Paul. Yeah, he must be a fan of the
Three Stooges, because get a load of this line. I
thought you two had a brain cells between the two
of you. Isn't that something that most said to Curley
and Larry?

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Maybe they got famous though, so maybe like maybe we
should just keep doing what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I'm a fan of the Stooges too, Paul, So that
makes us friends. Thanks Paul.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Pretty big news just dropped on us here in the
last ten minutes. Who do you think the new attorney
general is? The demand, the myth, the legend, hul Cogan, No,
Matt Gates, Okay, Matt Gates.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, he's out of the house.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
There's gonna be a lot of jobs that need to
be replacing here. Ron Desants is going to be busy
trying to he appoint people to these seats for the
time being before they get to these special elections. Trump
Ronald true social that Matt Gates his Attorney general pick
and says that he's distinguished himself in Congress through his
focus on achieving desperately needed reform at the Department of Justice,
and Gates replied on his ex account, it will be

(19:58):
an honor to serve his President Trump's attorney general. So
there she goes, there's another one. There's another big job
in another big job to a name that we are
very familiar with, Matt Gates. How about that? That is
a well ripple effect. It's going to be taking place
a lot of people who have made a name for themselves.
Of course Matt Gates, I think most famously, at least
historically speaking. You can talk about him being more of

(20:21):
a watchdog and really like getting people from the outside
looking into Congress and saying, look, this is an important deal.
This is a very important situation. And Kevin McCarthy was
not the right guy for Speaker of the House. He
really held up the process with a group of people
that he kind of formulated that was just enough to

(20:43):
where they could combat the rest of the Republican majority
in the House. It took like thirteen votes to get
Kevin McCarthy the gavel in the first place. Pretty shortly thereafterwards,
not always right in Neverland. And eventually Matt Gates led
a mutiny essentially against McCarthy and got enough people in
the Republican Party to support it, and they were able

(21:03):
to vote out Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House
and create the chaos that we saw last year in
the House of Representatives. Pretty interesting here he is a
year later, accepting Donald Trump telling him he wants him
to be the Attorney general. My how time flies and
how things change. Matt Gates into a very prominent role
in our government. It is two forty six. We better

(21:25):
get to this Senate, the Senate leader thing, the new
Senate majority leader, which will take place because you know,
the Republicans will soon have the majority. Wow, a lot
happened one by one. We will talk about it coming
up here on news Radio eleven ten. Kfab Emery Sunger
didn't see that coming. I figured, you know, Matt Gates,

(21:46):
you know, he probably was in line to get some
prominence with Donald Trump this time around. Attorney general a
big as a big hand. It's a big hand to play,
holy cow. But yeah, so we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Now.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Of course, we cannot talk about him with true honesty
and full transparency without mentioning that just in twenty twenty,
you know, he assumed office as a member of the House.
In twenty seventeen, he was part of He's really a
big time right wing politician, but got in right as
everything was moving in Trump's direction.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
And in twenty twenty he was accused.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Of having sexual relationships with minors and also with sex trafficking,
but the DOJ did not charge him. And you know,
that is one thing that has immediately popped up on
social media in regards like, hell, this guy is certainly
familiar with the Department of Justice, and then they mentioned that,
so that nothing came of that. My understanding is there's

(22:49):
not enough evidence to any of that if that was
going to be the case.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
He is married.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
He married his wife, Ginger in twenty twenty one, And yeah,
I guess I just don't know what more to say
about that, but I do think that this is a
certainly going to be Ah, it's going to be pretty
interesting what the conversation about Matt Gates specifically is going
to be. Now, Yeah, this is this is a pretty

(23:16):
interesting day, considering how much of this news is just
kind of popping up right, like yesterday, we were sitting
here and all of a sudden they're like, yeah, Mike,
Mike Huckabee actually is going to be the UH Ambassador
to Israel.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
It's kind of fun. I'll be honest with you. Who
knows there might be another one announce while we're on
the show today.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
You never know. Mike's on a phone line of four two, five, five,
eight eleven ten. Mike, you got some thoughts on Matt
Gates forever us today?

Speaker 8 (23:36):
Yeah, just a quick couple thoughts, Emory, and in full transparency,
we also need to point out about Matt Gates that
this was proven. It was shown widely that Gates was
getting extorted for twenty five million dollars, and that was facts.

Speaker 12 (23:53):
It's proven.

Speaker 8 (23:54):
It's all over, and that is why the DOJ chose
not to go and looked into prosecuting Gate because they
knew it was a joke.

Speaker 13 (24:01):
And if they did.

Speaker 8 (24:03):
Go prosecute, they were going to have to prosecute the
leftist that was extorting Matt Gates for twenty five million dollars.
And then the other thing as far as Haig set,
the Secretary of State, you know, you were saying that
Lloyd Johnson is accomplished. Lloyd Austin, I'm sorry, Yes, is accomplished. Now,
I don't you know. I mean, he's what a pencil

(24:24):
push in general that's never taken the battlefield like Haig
sets has, never got any stars on the battlefield like
Haig Sets has. This is a guy that led the
most disastrous moment in United States military history.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Right, it wasn't like mostly it was mostly just to
describe like who generally has a job like this. It
wasn't necessarily to compare him to Lloyd Austin.

Speaker 8 (24:47):
Yeah, I get it, I get it, Emory. But here's
the thing is the American people spoke, we're sick of
status quo in DC. So when you got a guy
like Haig Set that that's not a pencil pusher, administrating guy. Okay,
this is a guy that actually been out doing This
is a guy that's IVY led, IVY League, educated at
two different schools. Okay, yeah, taking the battle. He's an
accomplished guy for such a young age. So the status

(25:10):
quo has been voted out by we the people. So
we don't care for all of us to vote a Trump.
We could care less if it's not an administration guy
bro that push us pencil for a level we don't care.

Speaker 13 (25:21):
So that's what I just.

Speaker 8 (25:22):
Wanted to say about Matt and Lloyd Austin there.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
All right, thanks Matt, Mike, I appreciate your thoughts today.
Thanks for listening to us. Yeah, no, uh yeah, point
taking sure. I'm not going to pretend like I know
about who makes the most sense for a job like that.
Did have an email come in here from another Matt?
He says, I was in the army for seven years,
and since Pete's a major, it's the equivalence of an
administrator and basically takes care of the stuff for the commander. Normally,

(25:48):
a colonel directs all the officers below with whatever the
colonel says to do. I think he's a great choice. Okay, yeah,
that's awesome. I do find it to be pretty fascinating.
How I just would like to know the decision making
process right. There are certainly a lot of people that
could be qualified for a lot of these jobs. We're
seeing a lot of big name people from you know,

(26:08):
the Senate, the House, from governorships. They've been serving as
the governor of different states. They are in positions of
you know, high ranking authority, and what most of us
know Pete haigseth up from is being on television as
a pundit. And it's not to say that he's not
right for the job. I certainly am not a person

(26:30):
qualified to say that one way or another. I just
am kind of opining that I am a bit surprised.
It's just a guy that I just didn't anticipate to
be in the mix with a lot of these other
big names like the Tulsa Gabbards and the Marco Rubios
and Christinome and Elist Dephonic as the ambassador to the
U N. And Mike Huckabee is the ambassador to Israel.

(26:52):
Now Matt Gates, who's going to be the attorney general
for Donald Trump. As we found out this half hour,
it's pretty pretty intriguing, and I'm just, yeah, it's just
an interesting thought. We also have the news of who
the new Senate leader is, and it is not Rick Scott.
We had quite a contentious conversation about my interview with
deb Fisher when she refused to disclose who she was

(27:15):
going to vote for in that conversation, but we will
tell you how things shook out today in that vote
and what that means. And we'll take your calls as
well at four, two, five, five, eight, eleven ten on
news Radio eleven ten KFAB and.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
Maurice Songer on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
What is her military rank? I have a reason to
talk about this. I know it's a tough one. It's
a tough one.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I'm trying to think of all the different ranks. There's
a lot of ranks. Corporal, there's.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
There are military people listening to us right now, and
they're gonna be laughing very hard.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah. How dare you not know this? Yeah? It's tough.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Yeah, I must be done because I don't know something
that someone else knows.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, Matt, you'd big dummy.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Yeah. I love it. I eat it, I eat it up.
I don't know General of Agriculture. Has she been knighted yet? Oh,
she's the one with the tribute sha, That's what I
think it is. She works the tribute shape people. No
tribute though, awesome weapon.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
I made a little one for a history project. It
went over very well. I enjoyed Bess around with that thing.
It was fun anyway. No, she is a lieutenant colonel,
which is one step above a no, No, a major
which happens to be the what Pete Haiksith is, who
happens to be the brand new the brand new Secretary

(28:42):
of Defense. So the Director of National Intelligence is actually
ranked higher in the military than the new Secretary of Defense.
Not that that's bad and not that I'm saying anything,
It's just an interesting observation. I'm making observations people, right,
careful though, I'm not opining about that. I'm just saying
I'm just throwing it out.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
This reetweet is not an endorsement.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Yeah, And Tulca Gabbert, you know, she's a military woman.
She's been in the military just as long as Pete
exit has and she happens to be uh incredibly accomplished
as well.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
So there you go.

Speaker 10 (29:12):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Anyway, the fall lines of Open four, two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten,
we're talking about all sorts of different jobs that are
changing hands, including Matt gats Is the new Attorney General
replacing Merritt Garland. Pretty interesting stuff there. Joe is on
our phone line, Joe, welcome to the show. What's going on?

Speaker 11 (29:27):
Hey, Emory, I just wanted to make a comment. I mean,
you're talking about whether Trump's you know, choice for the
secret Secretary of Defense would be you know, up to
the task. But Lloyd Oxley, he abandoned his post, didn't
let anybody know about it. He had some medical procedure.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
And he a, yeah, it was prostate cancer and he
had a secret thing that I couldn't believe.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
There were no ramifications to him for that.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
He didn't You didn't tell the couldn't do that, Yeah, exactly,
I mean he told nobody. It was under the guys
of night. He just went to the hospital and had
this surgery, and I don't you know, obviously, I don't
want to tell people what they should or shouldn't be
able to do.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Joe.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
You know, It's like if I had something like that
going on, you know, I would hope that I can
have privacy. But when you're the Secretary of Defense, you
can't just you can't just do that. You can't just
like leave and not tell anybody.

Speaker 11 (30:22):
Yeah, he should have notified the nixt in command, who
happened to be on vacation, you know. So, I mean
the whole Department of Defense didn't have any leadership for
several days. So yeah, I'm not worried about Trump's choice
for I think he'll be fine. And but anyway, that's
all I wanted to say.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
Yeah, thanks, Joe, I really appreciate your thoughts today. That's
a good point yep, Yeah, yeah. I mean people can
call him sick all the time. There's no doubt, no
doubt about that at all. All Right, So thanks for
listening to us. And if you just missed out, we're
talking about all of the new jobs, all the new
people that are getting jobs, and Tulci Gabbard's like, I

(31:04):
am so happy for her. I got a chance to
meet her and talk to her before, and I'd love
to talk to her again. I think she's probably going
to be a bit harder to reach these days. Certainly
she's doing all sorts of campaigning over the last few
months for Donald Trump, which was certainly a very strange
change up from where she was just four years ago.

(31:27):
But I really really think that she's got a bright
future still just forty three years old and is now
the new director of National Intelligence, and that is a
pretty interesting development for her, who were just she was
just a Democrat four years ago trying to run for president.

(31:48):
Matt Gates being the new Attorney General certainly is probably
going to see even more headlines than that, mostly because
he got to a lot of notoriety in recent years
because of his friction with Kevin McCarthy and the way
that he kind of flipped things over in the House
of Representatives when Kevin McCarthy he didn't feel was doing
his job. But I think maybe the most heated conversation

(32:10):
we had yesterday was when I was talking to Deb Fisher,
and I didn't have a heated conversation with Deb Fisher,
had a good conversation, learned as much as we could
about what she felt during her campaign and the victory
that she had last week, But even beyond that, my
personal thought and perspective on her non answer when I

(32:34):
asked her specifically who she was planning to support for
the new Senate leader, she just said, I don't disclose that,
And we kind of talked about, well, do the voters
deserve to have some clarification as to how she feels.
But it's even a secret vote amongst the other senators,
you know, and I'm sure other senators feel one way
or the other. But I know you know how this works,

(32:57):
right if they did, and Matt is here with I mean,
you know how some things work. It's better if you're
able to keep certain secrets to allow yourself the chance
to work with other people. If we were voting for
like the king of this building, Matt, and I want
to still work with you, but I want to vote
for Vorhees to be the king of the building. But
you really wanted to be king of the building. I
don't want you to know who I voted for. So

(33:19):
do you really know what I could do?

Speaker 1 (33:21):
First though? No, I mean, I'm Matt, Scott's the king
should be the king of the building. Can I at
least platform for myself? You have ten seconds?

Speaker 4 (33:29):
I don't think you understand how good it would be
under me as a king. I'm a nice guy, first off. Yeah, sometimes,
but three two one h it probably wouldn't be that great.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Honestly.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Well, let's just for instance, you're going you want to
be the king of the building, and I want to
vote for Scott. If I tell you I'm voting for Scott,
that could hurt the relationship that you and I have,
And we know we're gonna have to work together. Sure,
so in terms of just like our building and how
that operates, it makes more sense for me not to
tell you that I'm not like, I'm still like who

(34:00):
I'm voting for. This wasn't about Deb Fisher not wanting
to tell her constituents who she was supporting. This was
more about Deb Fisher not wanting to tell the other
senators who she's trying to vote for, because she doesn't
want to ruffle up the feathers of not just the
person that she wasn't voting for, the people who she
wasn't voting for, but the people who wanted to vote
for those guys, right, because you don't want to create

(34:21):
enemies within the working space that you're going to have
to get along with and had. I don't think it
had anything to do with her not wanting to tell
people that live in Nebraska what she thinks. But I
think it had everything to do with her just protecting
the relationships that she needs to still have within her
party in the colleagues that she has with the Republican
majority in the Senate. Now, with that being said, many

(34:43):
people thereafter called in they were upset that she did
not want to tell me and tell us who she
was planning to support, And many people said, if it's
not going to be Rick Scott, who is clearly the
most conservative of the three candidates who are trying to
be the new Senate leader, after Mitch McConnell said he
doesn't want to do that anymore. If it's not going
to be him, then we have failed and somebody needs
to be held accountable for that. Well, I can tell

(35:04):
you that most of the Senators did not see Rick
Scott as a viable candidate. In fact, they had the
first round of voting, all the three people who were
there voted or got votes for, and they eliminated the
one with the least amount of votes, who happened to
be Rick Scott.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
He was the first eliminated.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
So then it came down to a vote between John
Thune and Cornyn Senator Cornyn. And to me, if we're
thinking about this from as much of a standpoint right
of fairness, they did this in a way that Senator
Thune and Senator Cornyn would have the opportunity to get

(35:44):
votes from the remaining senators and the way that that
would go. And Thune received twenty nine votes and Cornyn
got twenty four, so it was actually pretty close. Now
Thune was underneath McConnell is basically second in command in
the Senate of the Republicans, So it does in terms
of hierarchy, kind of makes sense that at least a

(36:04):
majority of the senators wanted just to see him elevated,
knowing that he was probably going to be as little
of a boat rocker as possible in terms of that.
But I know that many people who listen to this
show probably we're hoping that Rick Scott will get more
of a play. It just didn't sound like. We don't
know what the exact numbers are of that first amount,
but Rick's guy got the least amount of votes, and

(36:25):
they said he's done, he's out of it, and we're
moving on Dune and Cornyn back to back, and that's
just that's how it went. John Thune is the new
leader and has accepted this, and I guess that is
what it is. We have no like there are other
people out there who have made their votes clear. Our

(36:45):
Nebraska senators have not been among those people, at least
at this point. And I've reached out to Senator Ricketts
to see if I could get some comment.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Today.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Today is not a day in which I can reach him.
I'm going to do the best I can. Maybe tomorrow
or the next day and see if I can't get
him on to explain this process to us and talk
to us about why that decision was made. At the
end of the day, though, the senators that we elect
have that duty to try to find who's going to
be the best leader for them, and as a unit,
they have made the determination that it's John Dune. Now,

(37:18):
if you'd like to give us your thoughts on this,
you can four two five to five eight eleven ten
four two five five eight eleven ten, And I'd love
to chat with you about this right here on news
Radio eleven ten. Kfab Emrin read what's on your mind
about this?

Speaker 7 (37:33):
Well, Emory, we saw in the past guys like Mike
Lee and Ram Paul, who had probably been some of
the most transparent and vocal senators talking about hal McConnell
and Schumer would do all these backroom deals without the
majority of the Senate participating. I think he called it,
Mike Lee called it the firm, which is a group

(37:56):
of four or five guys, and I'm going to call
him the Uni Party or the deeps. They're all the
same and so and whenever you had McConnell up there
broadcasting all of his his material talking about all we
have to pass this omnibus, and we have to spend
all this money in Ukraine and all the things that
does Conservatives Nebraska and Iowa do not want. Who is

(38:16):
standing there right at his side. Two of his lackeys
is Soon and Earnst, who are going to do the
same thing that McConnell did with Schumer backroom deals and
with Trump making all these great appointments. I'm just scared
that this UNI Party is going to fight Trump on
And it's just those are my feelings, Emery, and I

(38:39):
just I'm sad to see all the secrecy with Fisher
and Ernst and Rickets and mcgrathtyre all not talking about
it because you know, they all they're all part of
the UNIT Party and they're all going to vote like
McConnell did behind backroom deals. So anyhow, those are my comments.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
Thanks, Yeah, no, no doubt, Read. I really appreciate you
for being a part of our today. It's a good point, right,
I mean, we didn't we talk about this yesterday where
we wanted, like we generally want to see more transparency
with our politicians.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
But I think in Uh, you know, in my heart,
I understand how the game is played, and I have
to respect that there are some things that we just
aren't going to know because of the way the political
machine operates. I don't think that's something that can just
be fixed by just electing completely different people bang just

(39:33):
like that. That's not something that seems like like this
is a systemic problem that has existed since the beginning
of Congress probably right. I mean, read about the first
Continental Congresses, even before we had a president, and they
were constantly having to make deals with each other, whether
everyone was president or not. And I think that we
deserve to have more transparency than that, certainly. But I'm

(39:56):
just not sure that we are in a situation, especially
with some of the older leadership that still is there.
I mean, Mitch McConnell's in his eighties. John Thune is
a bit younger than he is. He's in his sixties,
but sixty three to be exact. And by the way, Matt,
you know where he's from, your favorite South Dakota town.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Oh really, el Pierre Pier, not Pier, It's Pier. We
wee to you, vite.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
Yeah, So John Thune is you know if that's something
that he is going to have, right, Like, if this
is a problem that they anticipate with John Thune as
the Senate majority leader, then why would around like just
over half of his colleagues say that he is the
person that they want to be leaving them. That would

(40:44):
be my biggest question. And we talked about Rick Scott
being more of what the more hardline conservative people would want. Well,
Rick Scott had a lot of support from other Senators,
but it wasn't enough to be higher than the other
two candidates. Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ran Paul among those

(41:04):
that backed Rick Scott, and that meant something. Fune received
public endorsements from people like Mike Rounds and Mark Wayne Mullen,
and only one person came out and said that they
were in favor of John Corny, and that was Josh
Hawley from Missouri. But most of the people in the
Senate did not and do generally don't. They They don't
disclose who they voted for for a variety of reasons.

(41:27):
Whether that's fair to the constituents or not. I think
that's up for debate at the end of the day.
Though Thune was the guy four two, five, five, eight
eleven ten is the number if you want to call
in with something on your mind. Adam's on our phone line.
Welcome Adam. What's on your plate today?

Speaker 13 (41:41):
Hey?

Speaker 14 (41:42):
So I wanted to talk about RFK Junior and his
radical policies about our food. It seems like we might
be walking a slippery slope here from us, the people
with the free market, deciding what we want to eat,
versus what big government radical RFJ is RFK is going
to tell us to do. You know, we know what

(42:02):
is in our food. It's in the label on the box.
We can see what it is. It's our choice to
buy it. It's rfk's radical policies of changing our food
now and taking away our choice to buy it. You know,
how how many ingredients is he going to alter in
my diet?

Speaker 13 (42:17):
Coke?

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Adam?

Speaker 5 (42:19):
Like, I guess where are you hearing that he's going
to be taking stuff like like taking stuff off right?

Speaker 8 (42:25):
Like?

Speaker 14 (42:25):
Oh, I just watched a five minute video on Elon's
Twitter about him in front of a bunch of food
and he's got a whole bunch of food in there.
I'm going to make it so our food is more
like Europe's food, and they have less ingredients than us,
And I'm like, man, if you like Europe's food so much,
you know where to go. But I like my food
the way it is.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, well, I guess you know.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
And they also a lot of people are concerned about
his viewpoint on vaccinations, and certainly he was a very
outspoken person when it came to the COVID vaccine, amongst others,
but he's since clarified since the Trump elects. In last week,
he was asked by MSNBC if he's taking away people's vaccines,
and he said he doesn't plan to take away vaccines.
He just wants things to be scientifically tested. I'm with you, Adam.

(43:11):
I think I need to get a little bit more
information on some of this stuff. And I'm not sure
one hundred percent about what needs all to change in
our food or our vaccinations or anything of that nature,
but that will need to keep an eye on it.
I agree that there are certainly some things that we
haven't really heard too much about why our food might.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Be bad or whatever, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Like, of all of the problems that people voted in
this election on, that didn't seem like it was one
that was on a lot of people's mind.

Speaker 14 (43:40):
Is my No, it definitely wasn't at the top of
people's lists. But I mean now that we got this
guy in the in the cabinet and out talking about it,
it's it's out there. And I'm we've known for years
that a lot of our food is poisoned red dye
number five. Yeah, they don't have that, And that's what
he's talking about getting rid of is preservatives, trans fats,

(44:02):
things like that and going back to a more healthy diet.
But shoot, didn't most Selle Obama trying to do that?
Now our school lunches are terrible.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
Well yeah, I mean, if it was good for you
everybody to eat healthy, Adam, it's got to be a
challenge for some people, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (44:16):
Yeah, And well that's that's what makes you wonder if
he's going to start you know, oh, you have so
many fat points, your kid is too fat. He can't
have pretty fruity pebbles.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Is that what we're going to now, Well, that would
be not so free, I would. I would imagine that there.
It's a good point considering like how like anti government,
a lot of you know, most of the people on
that side of things are. How if there's a lot
of restrictions on what food is allowed and what food
is and allowed in certain ways, it kind of goes

(44:47):
against the whole idea of the conservative government, a small
government respect.

Speaker 14 (44:51):
And that's that's the point I'm trying to get across.
I know my prutty pebbles thing was a silly, extreme joke,
but but yeah, that's that's the point I'm getting across,
is that the party of small government now wants this
big government guy to tell them what's good for him.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (45:05):
I just don't get it.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
I'm with you, Hey, Adam, I appreciate the call. Thanks
for listening to us. Every one you too, If you
want to call us, you can four h two five
five eight to eleven ten. It is news Radio eleven
ten KFAB.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
And Marie Sunger on News Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
We're talking about all of that, and of course we
just got done with a call that was kind of
unrelated to that specifically, but about Robert F. Kennedy Junior
and kind of some of the stuff he's talking about
in regards to trying to change food in America specifically,
he's mentioned stuff about vaccines, as well, but food specifically,
and a lot of people are asking questions is why

(45:42):
he would be wanting to do something like that. Well,
Patty's on our phone line of four h two, five
to five, eight to eleven ten, Patty, what are your thoughts
on this?

Speaker 9 (45:50):
Yeah, so I am not sure what our plans are
for the food, but I do believe that he brought
up a lot of good information about vaccines, and I
don't really believe people understood what was in the vaccines,
And I have to disagree with the previous caller. I
don't think a lot of people do understand about what's
in our food. And seeing as the majority of our

(46:13):
health problems are caused by obesity or by things that
people are ingesting, I think it's a really good idea
to look at our food and try and educate people
and steer them towards healthier options.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
And I think it's coming from a good place for him, right.
And he doesn't have any reason to, you know, be
changing a lot of this stuff unless he felt like
he had good evidence or there to be at least
some science to what we're talking about here. Patty, is
there anything specific that you know, what would you tell
somebody that feels like, if it's not broke, don't fix it.

(46:46):
Why was nobody else talking about this if it's such
a big issue.

Speaker 7 (46:50):
Well, it is broke.

Speaker 9 (46:52):
I mean if you look at our obesity rates, and
the majority of our health problems, like I said, are
due to poor nutrients for obesity, and so to be
healthier to save on healthcare costs too.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
And a lot of.

Speaker 9 (47:08):
People are getting their healthcare paid for by the government.
So I think it is every citizen's concern that if
we have all these health issues, if we can get
people eating better, exercising more, decrease their health issues, it's
going to decrease the cost of health care. So I
think I effect everybody. I'm not concerned about the taking
away my diet.

Speaker 14 (47:27):
And my food.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
Sure, Yeah, fair enough. Hey, Patty, appreciate your thoughts on
this today. Thanks for listening to us.

Speaker 9 (47:33):
Hey, yeah, I appreciate you and your program. Have a
great day.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Yeah you as well. Rick is on our phone line
four two five eight eleven ten. Rick, what's on your
mind about this?

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (47:41):
I disagree with her totally. You know, the stuff they
put in our food, they're not going to take away.
Quakere oat meal, you know, the quakeer oat meal that
we have have twenty thirty ingredients to go to the UK,
it's got eight or ten. They're not taking anything away,
They're taking the garbage out. Yes, you know, there's so
much cancer and crap out there. Where do you think

(48:03):
it comes from?

Speaker 5 (48:06):
Well, and Rick, I guess my big thing is where
did we go wrong in America? Like what what did
we do in regards to to that to get us
to this point where the rest of the world isn't
is seemingly doing things a much more natural way. Because yeah,
So I guess my my thing would be though, like

(48:28):
the government's not putting that stuff in in the food though,
so what like why did that happen? Like why did
that get put in there?

Speaker 12 (48:36):
I don't know, they allow it, that's all I can say. Yeah,
and I don't know why they've put some stuff in
there that they put in there.

Speaker 5 (48:45):
Yeah, me either, That's my That's my big question is
you know, like I can understand some of this stuff
of of like the benefit of it because it looks different,
or it might add like a certain artificial flavor to
something to make it taste better or something, but other
than that. I mean, it doesn't make a lot of
sense to be adding so much stuff in somebody's diet.

(49:06):
I agree. I think that that's something that we need
to look at.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Rick.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
I appreciate you for calling in today.

Speaker 13 (49:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Have you ever have you were done that? Matt?

Speaker 5 (49:14):
Have you ever looked at like gotten kind of in
the habit of looking at the ingredients. I kind of
started doing this at the beginning of last year when
I started working out. But it's a it's a pain
in the butt, I really I hate it. Like I
drink the Zva is right, I got a Cola Zva
in my hand. They don't pay me.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
They should.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
But this is a vegan product, right, And when I
say vegan, what does that mean to you?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
No animal products involved?

Speaker 5 (49:35):
Absolutely, no animal products were used in the creation of that. Yeah,
But it's also generally that means it's going to be
a pretty simple like for like a drink, it could
be pretty simple in the way like I'm not talking
like impossible meat, right, like they have to do a
lot of different things to make the impossible meat. But
like a drink, right, this has carbonated water, natural flavors,

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Stevia leaf extract, tataric acid, caffeine and citric acid.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
What's natural flavors? What does that mean? It's whatever the
flavor is, Like it just comes from me. I don't know.
It just says natural flavors, right, that could mean anything.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
Yeah, but that that if you get a soda, like
if you go get it like a coke or a pepsi,
like a cola that isn't trying to be like healthier?

Speaker 1 (50:16):
How many like this?

Speaker 5 (50:17):
There's gonna be like twenty five ingredients and sent of
just the five that I'm named with this one, Like
why is that?

Speaker 10 (50:22):
Like?

Speaker 5 (50:23):
What's the point? I would tell you that that tastes better.
I would tell you that I enjoy the taste of
that better.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
I don't always think less ingredients means like I don't know.
I think that we're applying things written large. Like I
made a great stew. There's lots of ingredients in it
and it's delicious, right, I think it depends what the
ingredient is.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
I suppose. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
I'm a simple man, you know, but have you ever
just done some like hey, I want to just monitor
what's in my stuff and like like the servings of
total fat and sodium and protein and all that stuff.
I did that for a little bit and it's exhausting.
It's exhausting because so many different things have different consistencies
of that.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Yeah, I did keto for a little bit on that go. Well,
it was great being on it. You know, once you
get into that stasis that you want to get into,
it really does help your workouts. You just kind of
feel like you have more energy and you and you
lose the weight. But the only thing is, at least
as far as I'm concerned, that's not really a way
to live your whole life. So it wasn't a long
term thing, but it was a sort of like, I mean,

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you have to militantly watch the carbs, and it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Everything has carbs, Oh, everything except that as eva.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Yeah, I mean that there are some things that don't,
but the very few things have no carbs. At least
something has, you know, most things have have have quite
a bit of carbs.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Yeah, well, it is an interesting conversation. You can call
us four h two five five eight eleven ten and
it's a news radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 6 (51:46):
Emery Suner on news radio eleven ten KFAB and.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
We're just kind of getting your thoughts on about, you know,
American diets and we're just kind of talking about habits
of those kinds of things and how that might help
America in the future. You can call us four h
two eleven ten and Barb is on the line. Hello, Barb,
what's you thinking about? Yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Well, you were talking about the food and RFK Junior
and I recently watched a Tecker Carlson podcast where he
had a brother and sister by the name of Calli
and Casey means she used to be a surgeon. He
used to be a lawyer lobbyist, and now they have

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both stopped doing that and they are focusing on big
pharma and how government agencies and the food industry have
all kind of all got together. There's a lot of information.
It was like almost a two hour thing, but it
was so I was like in shock actually when I
heard him. And I just want to highly recommend for

(52:50):
people that have concerns or questions or are wondering about,
you know, what's this all about. I highly recommend that
they listen to that.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Yeah, it's a good point. I'm just surprised Barb that
you know it wasn't until we got this far along
that anybody really was mentioning this is something that we
should be talking about. You know, I think it is
important to talk about this, But it really wasn't a
part of the campaign at all.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Well it wasn't, but if you that's because most I
don't know, I listened to things other than mainstream media,
so I was aware of a lot of this stuff beforehand.
But again, you know, it's not going to be out there.
You almost have to if you if you're interested, you almost.

Speaker 15 (53:33):
Have to really search for it.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
So it's not just easily right.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
It's not the sexy topic of conversation that like drives
a lot of clicks.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
And again, you know, I'm not I'm not the things
they said. It wasn't like they think these things are
happening or it's a conspiracy. These were all proven, actual
true facts. So it's just it's very eye opening and
I highly recommend it. And like I said, it opened
my eyes. And I'm I'm seventy one years old, and

(54:03):
I'm thinking, if I.

Speaker 15 (54:04):
Know, I'm this a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Yeah, you know, right now, I'm like it might be
too late for me, but for the younger for my
children and my grandchildren. Sure, I'm really hoping that we
get a handle on all this.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Thanks for the call, Barbara, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 12 (54:19):
Bye.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
Let's go to April on the line. April, Welcome to
the show. What's on your mind?

Speaker 10 (54:23):
Hey, you're asking, you know how we got here? How
we got here with twenty five ingredients and set a
five for the exact same item in the US versus
you know over in Europe. Yes, it's all about money.
Somebody is making money off of it. Either we are
adding things to make you know, what we have go farther,

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or you know, somebody is making money off of the
things that we're they're using into this. But it justd me.
It's all money related.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah, that makes sense, right.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
I mean we are in a capitalist society, and you know,
somebody decides that they want to know, manufacture certain ingredients
or certain types of ingredients, and then they get into
the cahoots with you know, hey, this will actually make
your product taste better, and then the product is like, oh, yeah,
it actually does. Let's let's I'll give you a bunch
of money to make this product and you put the
thing in our product and we sell our product you

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with this these additional things in it that maybe don't
need to be in it, and people enjoy the product better.
That creates business and economics. But we didn't think about
what that could potentially do to the consumer. And now
it sounds like, you know, maybe we are starting to
think more from the consumer first to than what we
need to be monitoring while the rest of the world
has already kind of been there. It's a pretty interesting

(55:37):
perspective there. April, thanks for calling us today.

Speaker 10 (55:40):
Thank you, you have a good day, you too.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
Let's go to Joe on the line. Joe, welcome to
the show.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
What's up, Emory?

Speaker 13 (55:46):
This is Spark, I mean, this is Joe Joe. Yeah,
that's it. Hey, so its recorded, I hope.

Speaker 10 (55:51):
So.

Speaker 13 (55:51):
Anyway, remember back in the day when R. J. Reynolds
had spoke, you know, you could spoke and it tastes
so damn good you had to have another one, cherry
Soon after a while, it was so good, you had
to have another one or these chemicals that you just
had to have more and more and it tastes so good.

Speaker 12 (56:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (56:09):
Well, I think that's what they put in those damp
potato chips. I really did it not only potato chips,
it's the watermelon, it's the pop it's everything else. In fact,
if you if you follow the money, like the ladies
said before, all those all those scientists that were in
the R. J. Reynolds back back laboratories moved over to

(56:30):
the to the the labs of the food. And you
might want to check to see who owns all the
the big food industry and you'll find out that it's
now the Nibisco products and they probably have connections into
the cigarettes.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Well a Joe No.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
I mean, the tobacco industry is a great example of
all this right because it didn't used to always be
that way. Within the that they added into it, the
more they recognized they could sell more and and there
you go. I mean, honestly, like think about it right now.
You know, it's still happening even though it's been sixty
years since people figured out that it was really not

(57:13):
good for you, and people are still doing that stuff.

Speaker 13 (57:15):
So oh, but you know it's the big companies are
relaxing the money of the poems of the FDA. Mister
Kennedy is able to go through the litigation that maybe
coetitions out and the corrupt FDA officials out of the way,
so maybe our kids can live a little bit longer
than sixty years old.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
Sure, Joe, Hey, yeah, this is good stuff, Joe. I
really appreciate. I want to try to squeeze one more
call in before I hit the top. Thanks for coming,
Yank you. Let's go to Bill real quick, ky, Bill,
what's on your mind here?

Speaker 15 (57:46):
I just like to talk about these environments. I listened
to KFABY because I get up at three thirty in
the morning and four o'clock in the morning, and they
have these doctors that call in, and even this morning,
they had a guy that called in. He was like
eighty years years old, you know. And you see these
TV commercials and they've got I don't know, seventy eighty
minerals or vitamins and they're they're they're selling these pills

(58:09):
and they guarantee, you know, total pain relief and things
like that, and they're just it's so hard to believe
or understand.

Speaker 12 (58:18):
I mean, even these.

Speaker 15 (58:20):
Notable people they're on there promoting like how to take
this pill and go sleep all night, do this, and
we just there's just so much stuff out there and
you don't know if it's true or not. But this
guy this morning, he was talking about how he can,
you know, run a mile and fifteen minutes and all
towards the thing day and I don't know, it just

(58:41):
amaze me. There's so many chemicals, not just in our food,
but just the doctors and the pharmacy.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (58:49):
The follow the money is what I always say, and
it's very true, just like your last few dollars.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Yeah, yeah, mill, I appreciate the call today.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
And I can't speak on behalf of anything that is
on that's not me on this air. I can't even
take responsibility for some of the stuff that Matt says,
like the you know, hockey on a battleship, you know,
like I have the disclaimer, you know, like the thoughts
of other people or other things that you hear on
this radio station aren't necessarily the ones that I share.
But at the end of the day, right we sometimes

(59:19):
you have to do your own research. That was a
popular saying and during COVID maybe that just needs to
extend to the other stuff that we're putting in our body. Well,
keep talking to you, stay right there. News Radio eleven
thon KFAB.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
And Marie Suger ritzerans in a moment Undus Radio e teneb.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
We do have a couple of people that I just
wanted to like give a shout to these particular jobs
and change. First of all, Senate Majority Leader is going
to be John Thune. I know that may not be
popular for the hardcore Conservatives who really wanted Rick Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
That wasn't the case.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
Rick Scott was the first of the three candidates eliminated
in the vote today, so it was not didn't sound
like that was really an option that had a lot
of a lot of support, even though there were very
notable people that were voting for him in the Senate,
including people like Marco Rubio and Ran Paul. But that's
just how she goes sometimes Ted Cruz as well. John

(01:00:27):
Thune eventually defeated John Cornyn for the specific job we're
talking about, Senate Majority Leader. This is, of course, after
seventeen years of Mitch McConnell, the Turtle himself. What is
the legacy of a Mitch McConnell, right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
It's important.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
It's important to be like the leader of a political
party in one of the chambers of Congress, especially for
seventeen years. It takes a while to become a leader
like that, but it just feels like people don't respect
him in the same way, Like the is it the
end of it? Or is it just that he's been
kind of wishy washy, or is it the fact that
he's incredibly bold and kind of looks like a turtle, Like,
what's what is it about? You know, Mitch mcconnoll. It

(01:01:04):
has soured people on him to the point where I
don't think anybody's really like, wow, what a legacy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
I think it's that he plays the freeze dance when
we're not expecting it. I don't know if that's like
a meme or if he's doing that for his grandkids
to make him laugh. He did that a couple of times,
didn't he He just kind of kind of kind of
forgot that he was supposed to breathe.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
And move somebody off camera. Must have said everybody freeze,
and he's just.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
What he did that one time, he did it like
while he was speaking to people standing up, yeah, and
just kind of like looked around. He stopped himself mid
sentence and just like for forty seconds just kind of
looked around.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
That was that was very odd. That was very strange.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
And it's that kind of stuff that does not help
one bit. All these wild conspiracy theory people. They see that,
you know, they don't need more fodder for that. You know, Yeah,
it is what's going on back there. It is though
pretty I don't I don't like to see that. Nobody
likes to see that. These are the people we elected
to be leaving our country. The last thing we need

(01:01:57):
is the people who are in charge of their political
parties in important positions like Senate majority or minority leader,
regardless of which one it is. He was the leader
of the party in that chamber for seventeen years, and
everybody gets a little less sharp as time goes on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
He's in his eighties, I understand, But at what point
do we have to make like some adjustment to the
way that we do these things, because that doesn't really
instill a whole lot of confidence. Joe Biden killed Joe
Biden's candidacy, right, I don't know. George Clooney killed Joe
Biden's candidacy, Oh did he not?

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
He wrote the He wrote the op ed.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
He wrote an op ed, Yes, and the got the
movement going, right, isn't that how that worked?

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
I don't know it it got It was in the
New York Times too, which is a liberal magazine or newspaper.
Can you still call him newspapers? Is the New York
Times still a newspaper.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Online news outlet?

Speaker 12 (01:02:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
Yeah, that's probably a more accurate statement. Yeah, that didn't help.
But Joe Biden's showing up to the debate and not
being able to like string together thoughtful sentences, saying the
same things over and over again, like if you had
a bingo card of how many times he would say
first of all or second or you know, let me
be clear, like he really just I don't know, you

(01:03:10):
could tell the guy was struggling up there. George Clooney
just exacerbated it. So I don't know. I don't know
what the story is there. I don't know how much
blame he has.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Was it? Was he wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Let's be honest. Was he wrong? Clooney?

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
Like I said, I have that theory of like when
you're seeing somebody like that every single day and you're
noticing that, you know, the mental decline or whatever situation
he was dealing with, there wasn't going to be noted
as obviously by the people who see him every day
versus somebody like Cloney. He probably sees him, if if
this often, once or twice a year, if that, in person.

(01:03:45):
And he did a big fundraiser for him in the
early part of the summer and said, this is not
the same guy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
He's going to make that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
He's going to notice that more because he goes longer
periods of time to seeing him, you know, and so
have we, right, Like, we don't see him every single
day and talk to him. We just see clips into everything.
The fact that the White House kept telling us that
they thought he was fine, I have to kind of
believe that some of them truly thought he was They
just didn't notice because they see him every day. Clooney

(01:04:14):
basically pulling the curtain back and saying, look, I saw
him for the first time in a couple of years.
He is not the same guy that certainly moved that
ball a little.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Bit further down the hill.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
I'm not saying that, but there was no way he
was gonna win either way after that debate. Well, I mean,
that's been theorized that he would have lost worst, like
he would have lost worse than Kamala did. I think
if he runs, considering how horrible that first debate win.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
What if the next debate was good, how would it
have been good? Kamala did great in the debate.

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
Yeah, she's functional. She's a sixty year old. Her brain
still operates properly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
So that's all it took.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
It would have made a difference. I think she did
better than Trump did in that debate and obviously didn't
matter to the voters. But you think Joe Biden all
of a sudden, like, what were they going to give
him this time around again with no teleprompter and probably
the same rules.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
I just don't want to speak on things that I
don't know. Well, I know a lot of things that
we speak on. Half of what I say on this show,
I don't know. I make stuff up all the time.
You know how often I've thought the Nebraska Cornhuskers were
better than the team they were gonna play. You know
often that's been true, proven to be false.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
You're just getting used to that, though. Stick with it.
You've been here the last twenty years. You'd give me
a break.

Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
I'm wrong all the time. You don't need to tell
me twice That doesn't mean that I don't have a
job to, you know, talk about how I feel Joe
Biden would have gotten roundly roundhoused in the election if
you would have stayed in his candidacy truly ended on
that debate stage. It's kind of sad that it took
George Clooney of all people, to kind of get the
ball roll and to get him out of there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
Well, when it's one from your side who does that,
it's gonna make waves.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
It's a more powerful message. Yeah, yeah, big donor maybe
the biggest. When you talk about the funds that he
can raise, and he did, he raised the record amount
for him, like ninety four million dollars or something like that,
not that he'd know what to do with it, and
not that they manage it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
What she Kamala's campaign after she took over blew through
a billion bucks and they still had that. That sounds crazy,
doesn't it. You want to talk about campaign finance reform,
how much did you pay Cardi b to forget what
she was supposed to say? How much did you pay
making the stallion to go up there and shake her?

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
How much did you pay Lady gag Gotta, you know,
go up there on stage with no makeup on, you know,
singing a song that she wrote for her Kamala.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Why does that okay?

Speaker 12 (01:06:18):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Why does the makeup matter?

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
I'm just saying, they like, okay, what are we trying
to accomplish? We have Cardi B who goes up there
and she's got the whole outfit going, and she forgets
what she's supposed to say and the teleprompter fails. They
run out there and give her a cell phone to
read her lines off of how powerful was that endorsement
they paid her to do that. Megan the Stallion goes
up there and she does what Megan the Stallion does.
She dances Congratulations, that's awesome. Lady Gaga goes there and

(01:06:41):
she's doing the exact opposite of what they're doing. She
actually performs the talented individual. She is not to say
that Making the Stallion or Cardi B in their own
way don't have talent, But Lady Gaga, actually a talented individual,
goes up there and basically has sold her soul to
whatever money they were paying her. But they paid for
all of them. Beyonce, they paid Beyonce apparently more than
any of them.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Would she have accepted that money if she didn't believe
in the cause. I absolutely, they definitely believe in the cause.
I'm not questioning that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:08):
I'm just saying that was a mismanagement of what they
were doing one hundred percent to the point where they
are still in debt despite having a billion dollars to spend.
And you're telling me somehow Joe Biden would have done
better than that. They exhausted all of their resources. I
just think they exhausted them poorly. Obviously. I don't think
Cardi b making the Stallion, Lady Gaga or Beyonce would
have shown up for Joe Biden, but somebody would have.

(01:07:30):
You think about celebrities these days, First, a couple of
years ago, it was the strike, yes, and lately, I
mean you look at this George Clooney, you know, puts
his foot in the door and tries to get involved
and then they pour all in on a campaign and
it doesn't work out for him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
But what also was happening to celebrities is they're kind
of seeing a little bit of their star tarnished a
little bit by people are finding people are finding people
to follow and be influenced by all over the place
that don't actually live in Hollywood. So the industry there,
you know what, privately, I bet that's a pretty reeling
place these days. A lot of people who are losing
a lot of power.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
Joe Rogan had probably a bigger footprint than most of
these people combined, and the influence he had on this election.
The guy doing a podcast from his basement in Austin, Texas,
And can you imagine how much that grinds the gears
of a George Clooney?

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Oh yeah, oh yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
Er got how many millions of views every single week
he was on it. There's no television show that's even
touching that. Right now, mister Beast is getting more views
on social media than these TV shows are getting on
actual network television. It's a completely different world out there,
and you're right, and people obviously just don't feel like
they should follow these people anymore, right, Like, isn't that
part of it? Isn't that a big big deal of

(01:08:38):
this is? Like, well, the reason all these celebrities showed
up is because you like Cardi B. And if Cardi
B says all this stuff that she had to read
off of a phone because the teleprompter failed and she
forgot what she was supposed to say.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
But it doesn't everybody read off a teleprompter.

Speaker 5 (01:08:49):
Yeah, they do, but at some point you would think
that some of that is going to come from the
heart like she could, Like if I was a performer,
and I'm not in the same way, but if I
truly believed in the cause, I would have read through
the stuff I was supposed to say before I got there,
to a point where if something bad happened, I would
have found a way to kind of talk through the
points that I was supposed to make. I'm being paid

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to be their first of all. Second of all, this is, apparently,
according to Carti, the most important thing that she'd ever
done in her life, which again, whether I don't know
if I can believe that or not, but they end
up having to run a phone on stage for her
to read off of.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
It's so disingenuous.

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
You think anybody listened to that and was like, Yeah,
I think I'm gonna Overcammala. Now do you think anybody
watched making the stallion do her thing and like that,
I'm going to vover Kamala. Now people are gonna watch
Lady Gaga perform and be like, yeah, I'm gonna Overcammala.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Now it doesn't worry like that anymore. It doesn't seem
like like.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
People were way more moved by him doing a YouTube
video with Bryson de Shambo with Donald Trump doing a
video with Bryson de Shambo than any of this, you know,
big thing, And Bryson de Shambera didn't pay Donald Trump
to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
I don't know, it's weird. I'm running.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
I'm sorry, I ran late. We'll come back in just
a second. News Radio eleven to ten, Kfab.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
Emery Sunger on News Radio eleven ten and Kfab.

Speaker 5 (01:10:02):
She is playing in a pro am and a ton
of people showed up. That's down there in Florida. And
she's just a great athlete.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
She was making some good shots out there, hitting some putts.
And she played eighteen holes nine holes with Nelly Corda,
who's the number one player in women's golf right now.
And she played the back nine with Anika Sorenstam, who
many PO people believe is one of the best women's
golfers of the last twenty five years at the very least,

(01:10:33):
and people were following Kitlyn Clark around the entire round
the entire time. Is there I have like, has there
been an athlete like Kitlyn Clark in any sport in
our lifetimes that has popped up like that? Would be
My biggest thing is like the Jordan effect, right, Like
Michael Jordan would show up somewhere, and wherever Michael Jordan
would show up, there would be an incredible amount of attention.

(01:10:55):
And that includes like the Olympic Games in Barcelona, he
showed up if you watch any videos from that. Have
you seen some like documentaries about the ninety two Olympics
when the Dream Team went over there and how people
were treating them like rock stars, But it really was
Jordan I think mostly that was driving that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
That's insane stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:11:11):
And like Mahomes is great at what he does, and
there are some other famous people out there, but Kaitlyn
Clark shows up to a golf event and the golf
event sells out for a pro am before the tournament
even begins. They had more people today watching the pro
am than they will have for the entire tournament this weekend.
Have you seen anything like this with any athlete, male
or female. I can't think of anybody that has this

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kind of effect. I don't know, I'd have to go
back and relive kind of the Jordan era. I was
too young to know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
What that was.

Speaker 11 (01:11:38):
Like.

Speaker 5 (01:11:39):
It's the only person I can think of that had
this kind of celebrity status around whatever they did, not
just you know, like when he played baseball, they were
selling out minor league ballparks all over America because he
was playing baseball, you know, and he's Michael Jordan. Tim
Tebow went and played baseball. Nobody cared. I'm sure somebody cared,
but you know what I mean, like that wasn't happening
even though he was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
A very famous Apple athlete. It's very, very very interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
So anyway, congrats to anybody out there that gets to
golf with Caitlyn Clark in the offseason, I guess, and
to you know, the LPGA way to get her roped
in here, and she looked took it seriously, like her
face in her facial demeanors, and she's got a good swing.
You can tell that she's played golf plenty in her life.
That is pretty pretty nice to see, you know. I

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like seeing athletes kind of get out of their their zone,
Like when Tom Brady and you know, like Aaron Rodgers
and those guys did the golf match. Like it's fun
to see people kind of outside of their comfort zone
and doing something that is a little different than usual
for them. I kind of like that stuff anyway. Kaitlyn Clark, congratulations,

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having a good day out there on the golf course
in Florida today.

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
And Maurice Sunner on news radio eleven ten kfab