Matt Gaetz?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yesterday.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Was it like the three o'clock hour that the Matt
Gates stuff dropped? It was pretty early in the show, Yeah,
something like that. The news just piling on, right, and
it's pretty interesting. Well, well, well, we knew even by
the end of the show that there was going to
be a challenge. There were a couple of anonymous senators.
How do you feel about that? Anonymous senators who were
granted anonymity when they said, there's no way ain't gonna happen.

(00:24):
He's not making it. They didn't want their names out there, though.
How do you feel about anonymity? You talk about like sports,
you have these like anonymous gms and stuff that say
stuff about certain players. It's like, why don't you want
your name on this?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, but from the reporters standpoint, that's the only way
they're going to get it.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Nobody's going to be out there saying that publicly. Maybe
they would, maybe they wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's we wouldn't even know the information if they were
not anonymous.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I love the right before the season begins. In college football,
I can't remember what publication does it, but they do this.
The anonymous quotes from random quid coaches around the Big Ten,
and those get spicy, you know, when you can be
anonymous and really kind of go all in on what
you really think about this other team's coach. It's a
little spicy.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, yeah, But at the same time, it's kind of
like those anonymous accounts on Twitter that just say whatever,
knowing there's no consequences to any other Like, like, even
if people buy into the trolling, right, like, all they
can do they can just shut off notifications. Nobody knows
who exactly it is. You'd have to message every coach
in the country to figure that out, right, I don't know. Well,
the Matt Gate situation. We talked about this yesterday, and

(01:36):
there is a chance that he is not going to
be confirmed by the Senate. And this Matt Gates situation
got more complex certainly when immediately people were talking about
him and you know, Kevin McCarthy, that thing is going
around that he went on national TV and told everybody

(01:56):
he had a vendetta against him because he didn't want
to be investigated from that House House Ethics Committee for him,
you know, potentially messing around with a seventeen year old.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's a weird thing.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
To even be talking about with somebody, but it doesn't
even end there, right, like to talk about not just
the sexual relationship with a minor, but the Department of Justice.
We talked about this. There was some evidence of extortion potentially,
and they were just like, this is really muddy. We
can't actually like go in on him with the DOJ.
But that doesn't stop the House Ethics Committee from continuing investigation,
which was still ongoing. It also included illicit drug use,

(02:31):
It also included accepting improper gifts. They were investigating all
of those things with Matt Gates, and as soon as
he was named AG yesterday, the big plot twist was
he immediately resigned from his seat in the House of Representatives.
And the reason that that's important is, first of all,
Matt Gates, who was an elected representative from Florida, wins
the reelection. Obviously, if he's going to be the Attorney General,

(02:55):
assuming he would get confirmed, he would have to vacate
that seat anyway. I totally get it. But let's just
let's play this out real quick. If Matt Gates does
get confirmed as the Attorney General, he certainly is going
to be kind of that hammer that Donald Trump wants
that could go after things that are not in Trump's
favor or potentially or people who win after Trump. You

(03:15):
know who I thought was potentially somebody who could be
on the radar as somebody like Brenda Byrd who's currently
the attorney general for Iowa. She's been a big advocate
of Trump. She showed up in New York during his trial.
Made me kind of think that she was trying to
kind of work her way into that inner circle. Instead,
he goes for Matt Gates, who, to many people who
are former congress people or current Congress people, obviously certainly liberals,

(03:39):
they say he's not qualified for this job. That's the
old to the ploy right. We talked about this yesterday, right, Oh,
he's underqualified. He shouldn't even be there, let alone you
know the behavioral stuff. Okay, Well, that being said, he's
a known mostly as a big advocate for Donald Trump
and for super right wing politics, and he certainly is
going to go out of his way to do what

(04:01):
Donald Trump is looking for his attorney general to do.
And this might be something that he's already talked about.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Now.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Him resigning immediately from his seat ends the House Ethics
Committee's investigation because the how Ethics Committee gets what they
can only investigate somebody who's in the chamber, So when
he's not in the House anymore, that basically abruptly ends
whatever that investigation is. I don't know how I feel
about that. He is the only person who has been

(04:29):
nominated that is currently serving in a seat somewhere that
has resigned from their position before confirmation hearings kind of
makes you feel like he wanted to put some water
on whatever that would have been, and it lends itself.
I guess what happens to him if the Senate doesn't
confirm him. What if they say in the Senate, sorry,

(04:51):
President Trump, but there's got to be another conservative person
that you like that we can put into this position.
This guy specifically has too much baggage that be an
acceptable answer. And what comes to Matt Gates in that situation.
Does he just go and get a media job somewhere
like he's relinquished his spot in the House of Representatives
or did he see the riding on the wall that

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if he wasn't confirmed for this job, him being in
the House would likely lead to him getting smeared by
his past behavior. If they found that to be legitimate,
and he'd be out of the House of Representatives anyway.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
If it's legitimate.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Rightfully, so right, But that's the thing, is he getting
out ahead of this and just saying, look, I don't
have a place there, whether I'm the ag or not.
It's kind of the vibe I get from him immediately resigning.
He wants those investigations to end so he could potentially
be confirmed. That doesn't mean that the story's going away.
It just means that the House Ethics Committee can't investigate,
and the DJ already said they wouldn't be investigating him

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because there was a good chance of there being some
level of extortion politically as to why that was brought
up in the first place, and that creates all sorts
of different spider webs that we don't want to try
to get ourselves stuck into. That still doesn't mean that
this is the right person for this job. If that's
something that legitimately happened, and that's something that I guess
the Senate is tasked with figuring out, working with Donald

(06:09):
Trump and his team, is this a guy that we
can confirm and not feel like we lose some trust
in the American public. That to me is going to
be a very interesting dynamic as we get into the
hearings here. If you got thoughts on the matt Gate situation,
I would love to open the phone lines right now
and talk about this. Four oh two five five eight
eleven ten is the number. Four oh two five five

(06:30):
eight eleven ten. We'll talk to you next on news
radio eleven ten KFAB. We'll start with Phil on the
phone line at four oh two five five, eight eleven ten. Phil,
what's on your mind on this? Hey?

Speaker 4 (06:41):
So ever since you arrived here in Omaha, I've been
an advocate for Donald Trump, haven't I? Yes, sir, pretty
much the biggest one. Would you say, Well, I.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Mean you've been an advocate. I have several of them
that are you know, for several people I would say
are among the best?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yes, your top tier.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Okay, Now are you that it takes uh, you can't
you can't appoint somebody to the House of Representatives. You
have to have a vote.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, this is a special election.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
It takes two months in Florida to accomplish that.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
So if you wait until Matt Yates is confirmed and
then he doesn't get there, then he has, then he quits. Okay, Uh,
you're going to have a slot in the House of
Representatives where you have a slim majority for Republicans.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Correct, yes, but I mean you to anticipate his district
voting red.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Right, Oh, yes, but then it would take two months
to fill that, would it not?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Technically, yes, assuming you know he gets confirmed hopefully even
if he is, I'm following you, yes, can continue.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
So you're going to need that Republican voice in the
House of Representatives right now. Let's just they've been after
him for a long time because he doesn't he doesn't
play ball with the establishment.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
That's both party.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Establishment don't like it.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Correct, Yes, he raises zero.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Money from political action committees. He just strictly gets contributions
from individuals. Okay. Now, obviously they don't like him, and
obviously he's been asked tons of questions of the Justice
Department to which they respond for which they basically do
not respond. And I think it's time that whole place

(08:21):
gets cleaned out. And that's why i'm foreign. Now these
senators that are speaking on a condition of anonymity, Uh,
they're just they're just cowards. Okay, that's why they do it. Anonymously. Now,
let's say that many Gates goes ahead, and let's say
he isn't confirmed, but Marco Rubio is confirmed as Secretary

(08:44):
of State, right, correct?

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Ye?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
You can appoint somebody to be a senator.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, and DeSantis could disappoint him, couldn't he absolutely?

Speaker 4 (08:53):
After he's after, if he's if he's told, if they
say no, you're not going to be confirmed, well, well,
DeSantis can appoint him to be senator, which would be
giving him all kinds of power for a long long time.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I guess my only thing on that, Phil is if
he is appointed into the Senate, then that could reopen
an ethics investigation just in that chamber and center of
the House. And I just wonder what part of those
investigations might actually stick to him in a point where
maybe a person like DeSantis says, we don't want that
circus around somebody from Florida in the Senate. Because Rubio

(09:29):
is a well respected senator, you know, longtime senator now
for that state, I guess, along with Rick Scott, who's
also a very strong conservative, you're going to want somebody
like that. He makes sense in that spot. I just
I'm just concerned about what the investigation, specifically what that
would look like if he's not confirmed, in what that means,
and how that has played a part in all this.

(09:49):
But you bring up a very interesting point of something
that could actually play out, and it really wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Phil, I appreciate the call today. Have a good day
you too.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Let's go to mic real quick. Mike, welcome to the
show today. What are you thinking about on this?

Speaker 6 (10:02):
Well, Phil just stole my thunder. I was going to
make the same two points he was he made. I'm
a huge fan of Matt gets as I was cheering
him on when they got rid of McCarthy a year ago.
And as far as I'm concerned, I'm thrilled by Trump
nominating for Attorney general. I think he's a victim of

(10:26):
law there by this investigation just as much as Donald
Trump is, and I think by nominating him Donald Trump,
Trump just stuck not just stuck one stick in the
eye of the Washington establishment, he stuck two sticks in
both eyes. So I hope he gets confirmed. I hope

(10:46):
he cleans house.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah. I guess my only question for you, Mike, and
I understand you being a fan and certainly of his
policies and his politics. But what if they do find
substantial evidence that, yes, he did have sexual misconduct with
a minor while he was a part of the House
of Representatives, and yes he was in trouble way feelings,
drugs and that stuff.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
If that's if that's true, then he should suffer the
consequences just like anybody else.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Okay, all right, just wanted to double check. Now, we
don't have that evidence in front of us right now
for sure, but I just wanted to double check on
how you felt about that.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Mike. I appreciate you calling in.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Let's go to John on the phone line of four
h two five five, eight eleven ten. Welcome to the show, John,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (11:22):
Yeah, Hi, I was wondering, you know, does he even
have to be confirmed by the Senate if they do
one of them recess nominations.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
And and that's another thing too. I'm trying to learn
about how the recess nomination would would work. But that
is one of those things they they're going to work
on that. And it sounds like John Thune, who's the
new Senate majority leader, says that they he's open to
the idea of talking about that. I don't know how
well that would go over, but there's a chance that

(11:52):
they would not need the Senate to approve him. And
with his liming majority as there is, I mean, it
would only take you know, a hand full of Republican
senators to not want Matt Gates in his administration to
block that confirmation. So there's a chance. I mean, it's
definitely a possibility right now.

Speaker 7 (12:12):
Yeah, And I was listing to some of the Senators
and other Republicans and they're saying this is a done deal.
They're saying Matt Gates will be nominated to get used
to it. It's going to happen one way or the other.
And the only other way they can do it is
they already talked about they're going to do it when
they go in the recess.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
The only thing from what I understand about how this
works is they will eventually have to confirm all these
people eventually. Now he can be officially appointed and be
serving in that role, but the Senate will eventually come
back and have to confirm these appointments at some point.
So I don't know what that would look like if
they pushed that through with them in recess. But it

(12:57):
is something to watch, don because that seems like something
that they are definitely kind of angling toward for not
even just Tim, but for a lot of these potential appointments.
So I appreciate you bringing that up today.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
Yeah, and you know, once once they're in there, what
Republican is going to vote to get.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Them out right?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
It would take it right, It would take a whole
other set of circumstances to even make that happen, and
then you start the process from scratch, which then you'd
have to do another vote. You're right, I mean that
definitely creates a new hurdle for them. I appreciate you
calling in, John, Thanks for listening.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
All Right, we'll get.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Some more phone calls coming up next. Phone lines are busy.
If you've got thoughts on the Matt Gates situation also,
you know the investigation where your heart is on that,
along with his politics and what he potentially could mean
as the Attorney general. I'm interested in what you're interested in.
Please let us know. Call us at four oh two,
five five eight to eleven ten, four oh two, five
five eight to eleven ten, News Radio eleven ten KFAB

(13:49):
and re Sunger four two, five, five, aight to eleven
ten and Marshall, we appreciate the call today.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
What are your thoughts on Matt.

Speaker 8 (13:56):
Gates here, just a couple of comments on when President
Trump went out of office in twenty one, his approval
rating was like thirty four percent, And I mean that
was because of all the things that Democrats kept bringing
up about him and all the law fair and everything else.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Well, and also, I mean, Marcia, we need to be
a little bit more fair here.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
COVID would have tanked anybody.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Who's in you know, like that, anybody who was in
office was getting blamed for COVID, and they ran the
entire campaign on that too, which is a shame because
it would have happened either way.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
But yeah, I'm with you, I'm following you.

Speaker 8 (14:30):
True, But you know, approval rating or not, just what
he's gone through and what he's come through and how
he's come out shining.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Like a star big time.

Speaker 8 (14:41):
So my other thought on this is that if they
had the investigation going, that it's going to get leaked out.
So if he did something heinous that everybody seems to
want to pin on him, it's going to come out.
And if it doesn't come out and get leaked out.
Then you know he didn't do anything.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, you would think. So it's just weird how you
know Washington works. And he's being investigated not just for
the relationship with a seventeen year old for those who
aren't familiar, but sex trafficking. There was an investigation into that.
The DJ said they weren't gonna like press charges on
him or anything. They felt like there was some level
of extortion that could potentially be happening with that, so
they didn't come after him, even though you know, they

(15:22):
definitely were weaponized more toward Trump. They didn't go after
Gates in that situation. But he's also being investigated for
illicit drug use and then he also is being investigated
for accepting improper gifts, which I don't even know what
that means, but it's well.

Speaker 8 (15:35):
Yeah, but they did the same page to Clarence Thomas
and look nothing. It was a big nothing burger. Sure, say,
that's how these people operate. And my last thought on this,
I'll let you go here the little I don't know
what you want to call it out committee, but the
senators and congressmen that have sexual abuse charges and they

(15:56):
had to pay off these women. Yeah, and that's all
hush hush. Yeah, that's why I think maybe a lot
of the Republican senators are going to say no because
they know he's going to be just the guy to
start revealing all these kinds of things, because that's how
he is. He hasn't played with the establishment all along.
And I think that that's a good reason for the Republicans,
or at least those are her guilty and there's probably

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enough of them that don't want him to be confirmed.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Interesting, Yeah, I mean there's definitely that ploy as well.
He would definitely go after even people in his own party.
He's already done that. We saw it in the House
of Representatives. Marsha, I appreciate the call today, Thanks for
listening to us.

Speaker 8 (16:33):
Good Deah.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
All right, let's go to Corey. Corey wants to kind
of shift the conversation from Matt Gates. We'll get back
to mac Gates in a second, But Cory, you wanted
to talk about Christy home.

Speaker 9 (16:40):
Today, Yes, I do. I'd like to lend them just
a little perspective maybe on her situation in her background,
and this is in relation to the what was written
in her book about shooting the dog and the goats.
She's been pretty vilified for this dog shooting deal, but
we've we've got to realize where she comes from. She

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comes from a ranch background and an egg background, and
she's aware of a biting dog is a big problem
when you get kids tore up. Yeah, and there's no
humane society up there, there's no reholming that kind of dog,
there's nothing. I think it was poor judgment to put
that in the book.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, you think that.

Speaker 9 (17:23):
I agree that that was a very poor decision because
so much of America is so distanced from from ag
or from the ural.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
And Corey, Yeah, and you could. You could explain it
just like you did, and it's still not going to
change most people's minds on it. They're still going to
say it was still that still sounds like such a
an eighteen hundreds thing to do for a fourteen month
old dog, right, I mean, we just we value life
to a level now that is very different than we

(17:52):
did many generations ago. And you could describe it as
much as you like you did right there, which I
don't disagree with what you're saying. At the same time, though,
even with some of that context, that seems like an
incredibly extreme thing to do and then to kind of
brag about as something that you like. It proves you
can make tough decisions. It was a supreme lack of
judgment by her and the people around her.

Speaker 9 (18:14):
Well, I agree with that point, But another point I'd
like to make because I think a lot of the
people who are yelling the loudest about this are the
ones that kill babies, and maybe life is certainly more
important than a dog's And I love dogs as much
as anybody. I mean, I love dogs, and that's a
good part.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, you're right, Corey, there's there's absolutely a good point there,
and there's a lot of hypocrisy with all of that.
It's just and the reason you can't win an argument
with somebody like that is those just going to argue
that the life of the mother is more important than
whatever the life may or may not be in their
eyes of whatever child. And that's where the conservatives like
us struggle to try to make that explanation because they
just don't want to hear it. They just don't like,

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they don't even come to the table for the conversation
on that. So you're right, there's a lot of hypocrisy
to that when you say it like that, and I
don't know how we overcome that.

Speaker 9 (19:02):
Yeah, it's hard because you know, most of America is
so distant from animals or from the actually pantable contact
with animals. We had a neighbor boy was tore up
by a dog. He got a space bit when he
was a kindergartener and he carries the scars to this day.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, you know, and I lived next to it. A
family that had a pit bull who actually killed a
one year old, you know, and that was a terribly
sad day. They ended up banning the pit bull breed
in my hometown for a long time because of that.
You know, Corey, I think you and I are generally
on the same page. I just think that we have to, Like,
if you're a politician, especially in the position that she

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is in, she has to have better judgment than to
tell people that's somehow an asset that she can do
something like that. Mostly, it just made her seem like
she was heartless and doesn't have any empathy for any
type of life. When she's trying to portray herself as
someone who could make difficult decisions. There had to have
been a different way to describe that.

Speaker 9 (20:01):
Well, she should have left that out of the book.
I agree with that. Yeah, you should have been left
out the fact of the matter of her caring about life.
You know she ran her dad's aunt after he was killed.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, I know, I'm hearing with life. Yeah, I'm with you, Corey.
But what I'm saying though, is how it's being perceived
by the people that aren't a big fan of her. Right,
it just gives them something else to be angry about.
I got to move on to the next call, Corey,
But that's a good point. I appreciate you for calling us.

Speaker 9 (20:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Let's go to see you real quick. Steve, Welcome to
the show today. You want to talk more about Matt Gates.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
H great show.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
I think Matt's unqualified because he has no management experience.
Anybody in business knows first time managers make a lot
of mistakes. You have to learn the skills of hiring people,
firing people, motivating people, assessing people somehow assigning work, and
holding people accountable. That's a very i am on of
skill that a lot of people don't have. And then

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learning to be a manager of managers is even more.
You would never take someone who's never managed anything and
put them in charge of Conagora. ConAgra has about eighteen
thousand employees. Do you know how many The Justice Department
has a couple of millions? Look it up, hundred and
fifteen thousand employees. It's a massive, massive organization. You're going
to take a guy from Congress who's only shown up

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with four hundred other people, hundred and thirty five people,
and had to give speeches, had to vote yes or no,
but never really been in charge of anything, and never
really had to hire or fire people to accomplish great
tasks other than just his local staff. And you're going
to have someone who has zero management experience. I mean,
Christy Noman's run a whole status and executive, Ricketson's run
a whole status an executive. A lot of these people

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have run what what about?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
What about Tulsa Gabbertt and her being the director of
National Intelligence?

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Same concern? I think those bureaucrafts are going to chew
them up and spin them out. They'll sit in the
chair and they say, well, what do I need to do?
And they'll tell well, you need to do that, Well,
you can't do that because of this and we've got rules,
We've got regulations. They're going to chew these people up
and spin them out. They have no management experience. They
don't know the rules of the game. They don't know
how how to assess what like.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
What do you think about Pete haig Seth as the
Secretary of Defense. He did rise to being a major
and has like combat experience, But like I said, there's
no administration. There's no administrative experience. Is that a concern
for you on that front?

Speaker 5 (22:13):
No, he's been a major. He had troops responsible for
executing functions. Okay, he had executive experience, He managed large
groups of people. These other two have no experience managing people.
It's a huge risk. If President Trump need a brain surgery,
would he hire a brain surgeon that had never operated?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Well, I mean if we're talking about if we're talking
about you know, if we're talking about specifically, though Tulsea
Gabbett actually is a higher ranking officer in the National Guard.
She's a lieutenant colonel. Does that change how you view her,
even though the job isn't necessarily related to that.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
I forgot she is that she's a lieutenant colonel.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
She probably has the executive experience then along with the
other guy. All Right, I just wanted to clarify Gates
has no management experience. That's why it's a huge risk.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
I wouldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Interesting. I appreciate the perspective, Steve. We appreciate you calling in.
All right, we will take more calls. You stay right
there four h two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten if
you want to be a part of the conversation. We're
speaking about some of the House appointments, or not house appointments,
administrative appointments that Donald Trump is making for his upcoming presidency.
Very interesting, Matt Gates leading the conversation and what concerns

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people may or may not have about him as the
potential Attorney general. That conversation continues next on news radio
eleventon KFAB and Marie's son Stephen is on the line. Steven,
Welcome to the show today. What's on your mind?

Speaker 10 (23:32):
Hey, Maria, I'm calling about the last caller, Steve. Yeah,
and he talked about how Gates doesn't have any manager experience,
hasn't managed people. Sure, well, you know you all got

(23:52):
to move and who better than to help you understand
management and how to guide you along with management? And
president elect President Trump. Uh huh yeah, well yeah, if

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Yates has questions, just go to the man.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Well, and that's the thank Steven. How much experience it and.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
How much experience did Trump have when he was elected president.

Speaker 10 (24:24):
That our president will conduct as we believe and won
him to do.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I'm here you, Stephen, No, thanks, thanks to the call, buddy,
really appreciates the time today.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, what I was saying there, I don't know if
he heard me at all. He was in the process
of speaking as well. Yeah, Donald Trump had management experience
outside of politics, but he got hired to be by
the American people to be the highest ranking political official
in this country in twenty sixteen, had no previous experience,
and most people were who voted for him were pretty

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happy with the results, and so much to well that
even after the strange twenty twenty election with COVID nineteen,
really is the main factor, I think, in the way
that that thing went down and shook out against him,
he came back with a vengeance four years later and
got even more votes than he did before. It didn't
bother anybody that he hadn't served in Congress or in

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politics before.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
And why does that.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I guess just because you haven't done it doesn't mean
or done something specifically like that doesn't mean you necessarily
couldn't be up for the job. Let's get to gym
real quick. We have a couple minutes left. Hey, Jim,
welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
It's up.

Speaker 11 (25:31):
Yeah, Henry, thanks for taking my call. Hey, you guys
were having a conversation a little while. But I think
with another caller about the appointment recess appointments. Can he
do it during the recess of the Senate? Yeah, it's
interesting to find out. I was thinking about that, and
I know there's an article the President's Article Article two,
Section two, clause three. It explains exactly what that recess

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appointment is, and what it is isn't what they're talking about.
It says very clearly that the president shall have power
to fill up any vacancies that may have been duringing
the recess of the Senate. So it may be somebody
who's a cabinet member who the vacancy of that cabinet

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happened why the Senate was out of recess. That's totally
different because the the clause before that is how how
the he he shall nominate? Uh, other officers of the
United States.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
So I I.

Speaker 11 (26:32):
Find it really interesting. I know that some of the
media has been talking about this point of recess. He
can't he can't appoint none of these people that he's
asking for now compared compared to what our clause number
three of Article two, Section two says. Sure, he's got it.
He's got it. That's how that works. And if you
know me, I'm a strict constitutionalist. That's word for word

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what the Constitution says. So I think we again goes
back to what I've said to you before. We need
to understand document.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I'm with you, Jim, appreciate the call, Thanks for calling
us today on that. Yeah, and that's uh. They wouldn't
he wouldn't be the first guy to do that. But
like he said, you know, there's very different circumstances. Donald Trump,
you know how many he used recess appointments in that
first term of his all four years, zero goose egg,
Joe Biden, zero goose egg. So this would be the
first recess appointments in almost a decade from anybody. More

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