MSNBC's Morning Joe Extends a Surprising Olive Branch

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wasn't Sinus Pressure? Was that the song that Bowie did
with Queen?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I think so? Didn't they write that about sinus pressure?

Speaker 1 (00:05):
I sign it was pressure? Then don't and then and
then I.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Need some musa next them.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Well, now that you've called them out, you know, just
to clarify, there is no uh, there is no musinex
sponsorship to this particular program right anyway, So anyway, before
I get into the news of the day, what do
you what do you think about that Nebraska game on Saturday?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I thought it was a game. I thought it was
you know what I came away thinking about it. I
was like, you know, that was a football game, wasn't it?
Two teams played, one team one the other team didn't,
and it looked a lot like a football game. So
I think we can at least say that it was
a football game that was played. And other than that,
I didn't really try to think a whole lot more
about it because I.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Wanted to have it a weekend.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Did you get you get paid to talk like that?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
To talk in the most blank and boring way possible.
I don't know, Like, you know, the Huskers lost, what
else is new? I hate to be that way. But
it's kind of like, Oh, new offensive coordinator, same old offense.
I mean, I you know, I don't know there was
clear pass interference on that last play, but you know,
maybe don't get yourself in that position every single week.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
You know, I just before we even get into that,
you cannot be telling me that that is what we're
talking about here, Like there's no way that that's like
the reason this has happened.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
No, No, I completely agree.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Like I said, I hate that people are just so
quick that it's the officiating that made the difference. I
think that's crazy to me. This team, What were you
expecting with the guy who literally got the playbook less
than two weeks ago calling the plays? What did you
expect from an offense that, like, all of a sudden,

(01:54):
just one guy like changes his role and all of
a sudden, like like everything solves, everything is cured. We
looked like we did against the University of Texas El Paso.
Is that is that? I mean? Is that what we
expected to happen? But I, like you, I saw the
discourse on social media, Matt, people are mad about the officiating.
What did you expect? I mean the fact that you

(02:16):
were close at the end of the game, I think,
to me, I was fairly impressed with the effort. I'll
be honest, I felt I didn't feel that bad about it.
I think they have a great shot at beating Wisconsin
next week or this week. You know, That's what I
took away from it. Get the sixth to win, and
then we can resolve all this other crap in the
in the postseason and in the offseason, get to bowl game.

(02:39):
Let us go to some trip in Florida or something.
Please don't send us to the Pinstripe Bull or anything
like that. But like you know, isn't that like the goal? Now?
We have two cracks at really what the goal is?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Well, we've the last nine cracks at it. We've failed
so could the last two years. Yeah, yeah, the tenth
times to charm, I guess. And if it's not the tenth,
maybe the eleventh times the charm.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
They got two more. They got two more cracks at it.
And that's all I'm saying. It's all I'm saying. That's
all I'm saying. Anyway, Okay, we'll talk more Huskers a
little bit later. Matt. I always appreciate your your thoughts
you went in on Dana though, right, Like, one week's
not enough for you to make that determination that, hey,
we just need a clean house and get people who've
actually done this at this level before.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I don't know if Dana is going to work or not.
But again, my point that I made last week, I'm
sticking with I if changes need to be made in
this offseason, they better go out and get some people
who have proven in the past that they can win
in this conference. Because I'm really getting tired of throwing
in like, oh, this good guy from the Big twelve,
or oh this guy who had success in the MAC,

(03:47):
you know, stuff like that. Just tossing guys in here.
Who I want somebody who has actually had success as
a coordinator or whatever level of coach in the SEC
or the Big ten.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Well, I think there's something to be said for that.
And if they lose the rest of their games. They
finished five and seven to miss a bowl game, where
are we out on rule? After two years?

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Got to keep going. But year three is going to
be a big one. That's what I'm saying. I think
your three needs to happen.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't think the whole coaching staff needs to be overhauled,
especially when there was urgency shown in trying to replace
the offensive coordinator. Look at the quality of these teams.
It's not like these are horrible teams. It's disappointing to
lose to teams that look like USC record wise, but
coming into the season, they were ranked preseason top twenty five.

(04:38):
They have wins over teams that were or are in
the top twenty five. To me, you know, UCLA is
playing much better of late, you know, the second half
of the season. Then you look at Indiana and Ohio State.
There's one loss between those two teams. So this four
game skid where things don't look super great, you were
competitive and had a chance one score oppor unity in

(05:00):
three of the four of those games. One of those
was in the Big House against an Ohio State team
people think could win the national championship. And I don't
know if you on paper in this like yeah, you
probably would have thought, yeah, we can beat UCLA. But
it wasn't out of the realm of possibility to lose
the three road games in that four game stretch. It

(05:20):
just wasn't. So I'm just not going to overreact yet.
I know a lot of people want to if we
lose at home to Wisconsin, We're gonna have to start
having different conversations. At least I'm gonna have to start
having different conversations because this is a game you have
to win with full eligibility on the line. That's all
I'm saying. Anyway, I didn't want to talk that long
about the Huskers, but it was on my mind. It's
all over social media. We'll see what happens next on that,

(05:42):
and we'll talk more about that later on in the show.
Right now, it is two fifteen when we come back.
MSNBC started a very interesting Morning Joe today. I don't
usually talk about other people in the media specifically and
play their clips of their anchors talking about stuff, but
they have clip today that I really think that we
should listen to. I'll play it for you next on

(06:04):
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even iHeart Radio as a general company, or telling me

(06:25):
what to say or do that is not happening on
a day to day basis. I'm basically given the ability
to create the talking points of the conversations that I
want to have, and have the opinions that I want
to have, and whether they're successful or not in achieving
what we're hoping to achieve together with you know, the
amount of people who are listening, or the types of
people that are listening, and all that stuff. That's all

(06:46):
in flux, right. I don't speak specifically to make my
bosses happy. I speak because I want to connect with
listeners and talk about things that I find to be
incredibly important. When you get to a mainstream media or
a national media, especially when you're talking about news or politics,
mostly you're gonna need to be talking to a specific audience,

(07:07):
and the platform matters. I could give you a news channel,
I'd say Newsmax and you'd say that's right wing. I
would give you a channel like the Young Turks, which is,
you know, mostly started on social media. There's an actual
channel available there. They're very left wing. You look at CNN,
they're a little bit more moderate than the Young Turks,
but they are still very left winging. Fox News basically

(07:31):
the mirror image of that on the right side One
America News thatan they are certainly more right than Fox
News would be in the political spectrum. All that stuff, right, Okay,
So we look at that on both sides. Those exist
in their political spots in the spectrum because those places
are specifically trying to target people who already think that.

(07:53):
The reason you're gonna find OA in or Newsmax is
because you're a hardcore conservative person and you want to
hear hardcore conservative talk, opinions and analysis. If you're a
far left person, you're gonna be looking at MSNBC. You're
gonna be looking at CNN. You want the young Turks,
you want some of these very left wing leaning types people,
and you want to be told what to think if

(08:14):
you're already thinking in that direction. That's just the reality
of news in this era. And if you're going to
be hired by one of these places, unless they're bringing
you in specifically to talk talking points from the opposition,
you are going to need to feed into that specific
ideology politically. So that brings me to our friends at MSNBC,
specifically Mika and Joe from Morning Joe. They have been

(08:39):
of a tandem for a decade plus gosh, it's probably
been a lot longer than that. I can't exactly remember.
But that's not the point. The point is they work
for a company, and they have a morning show on
a news network, a national news network, that is entirely
dedicated to pushing for liberal progressive agendas and demonizing conservative

(09:00):
publican agendas. That's really just what MSNBC does. You can
watch for an hour and figure that out. There are
people out there that feel that way. So this is
the news for them. For most of us who are
probably listening to my voice right now, this is the
opposite of what we're looking for. I have no reason
to ever listen to them. Well, I still listen to
them because I want to know what they're talking about.
I still try to figure out ways to incorporate maybe

(09:21):
the way that they're talking about something, and how maybe
Republicans or conservative minded people might be missing something that
they're talking about on the left. That's something that I've
taken upon myself to do because I like different perspectives
and opinions on things. However, it was the end of
the world a couple of tuesdays ago when Donald Trump
won in what seemed in a modern day term. It
certainly seemed like a landslide in the electoral college based

(09:44):
on the historical figures that we look at, and on
top of that, a Republican winning the popular vote. That's
not something that you typically figured you would ever see
happen again based on all of the urban areas that
are generally over voting compared to the rural areas of America.
That doesn't mean their voice counts more. It's that you know,

(10:05):
more people voted for that candidate that did not happen
in twenty twenty four. It was the end of the
world as they knew it for MSNBC. So color me
incredibly shocked that this I'm about to play two and
a half minutes of how MSNBC started Morning Joe with
Mika and Joe, who are going to be sitting here
and explaining to you exactly what happened. You may have
heard some of this already. I'm going to play it

(10:27):
in full, this two and a half minute statement, and
it opened my eyes a little bit and got me
thinking about maybe what the future is going to hold.
Here is Mika and Joe on Morning Joe on MSNBC
this Morning.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Over the past week, Joe and I have heard from
so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply
dismayed by several of President Elect Trump's cabinet selections, and
they are scared. Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns
on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the
opportunity to speak with the President elect him say health.

(11:01):
On Friday, we were given the opportunity to do just that.
Joe and I went to mar A Lago to meet
personally with President elect Trump. It was the first time
we have seen him in seven years now.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
We talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation,
threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
We talked about that a.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
Good bit and it's going to come as no surprise
to anybody who watches this show, has watched it over
the past year or over the past decade, that we
didn't see eye to eye on a lot of issues,
and we told him so.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
What we did agree on was to restar our communications.
My father often spoke with world leaders with whom he
and the United States profoundly disagreed. That's a task shared
by reporters and commentators alike. We had not spoken to
President Trump's in March of twenty twenty, other than a

(12:02):
personal call Joe made to Trump on the morning after
the attempt on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania. In this meeting,
President Trump was tearful, he was upbeat. He seemed interested
in finding common ground with Democrats on some of the
most divisive issues. And for those asking why we would

(12:23):
go speak to the president elect during such fraught times,
especially between US, I guess I would ask back, why
wouldn't we? Five years of political warfare has deeply divided
Washington and the country. We have been as clear as
we know how in expressing our deep concerns about President
Trump's actions and words in the coursening of public debate.

(12:47):
But for eighty million Americans, election denialism public trials January
sixth were not as important as the issues that moved
them to set Donald Trump back to.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
The White House with their vote.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Joe and I realize it's time to do something different,
and that starts with not only talking about Donald Trump,
but also talking with him.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
And that is Mika and Joe from Morning Joe on
MSNBC this morning. Well, Hey, Matt, are you over there still?
You're hanging in there. I just want your opinion from
a journalistic standpoint. They had to announce this because I'm

(13:35):
sure their audience is the kind of audience that has
been cutting Republicans out of their lives. They have to
explain themselves as to why they would even try to
talk to somebody they apparently they humanly disagree with as
much as they disagree with Donald Trump. But was this
over the top or was this a solid explanation as

(13:56):
to maybe that we need to turn a new leaf
and cover this and his administration a bit differently than
many thought we would.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Well, as sure, what's interesting, there's been other interesting things
that kind of in this orbit. AOC took the pronouns
off her profile. I thought that I saw that. What's
that about?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Right? So, you know, there's definitely.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
There seems to be a lot of interesting things going
on right now between how can we keep the dialogue
you know, going, or or or recontinue that dialogue after.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
You know, such a divisive election cycle.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
I don't know, I've always kind of I've thought this
in my personal relationships.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
You know, more communication is always better than less, So.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
You would think, yeah, I mean, I mean, that's kind
of like like in your life too, write like I mean,
just in your life. It's not even just like about politics.
It's like in life. I think it's important to over communicate,
over undercommunicating, although there's a a bunch of people who
don't like to communicate at all, So I don't know,

(15:06):
I don't know. I'm encouraged by the discourse there though.
I'm encouraged that two people who are were among the
cheerleaders when y Kamala Harris called Donald Trump literally hitler
just a few weeks before this election. I'm encouraged that
we're deciding as a whole, and I say we as society,

(15:27):
that maybe we have all played a part in this
becoming such a nasty and really dirty and gnarly and
grungy kind of political environment in our country that you
can't really find common ground. I mean, you could argue

(15:48):
with your neighbor about a specific and single issue in
twenty twenty four that could end your friendship somehow, you know,
in twenty fourteen, it didn't feel like that was something
that could happen. You didn't really even lead with political
topics because this was something that you felt about yourself,
not that we shouldn't talk about it, but that we should.
We should be open to the fact that other people
may have different perspectives on it, and we need to

(16:09):
have the ability to have those conversations. As soon as
we stop having those conversations, we're in big trouble. We
stopped having those conversations. Maybe it takes the most liberal
leaning major news outlet in America on a national level,
like MSNBC, with two of their most notable left leaning,
liberal progressive hosts, to say that they're going to do

(16:33):
something different, and it's by talking to Donald Trump and
not about Donald Trump in regards to what the next
four years could look like under Republican rule. Even if
they generally and legitimately disagree with a lot of the
policy points that he and the Republican is going to
be moving forward, there's a way to disagree in debate

(16:55):
policy without hate, without like a venom that I think
a lot of people have been carrying around the last
decade or so, almost decade since Donald Trump got in
the mix. And this is a good step forward. Now
Donald Trump has said something like this as well. Fox
News Digital had a very interesting exclusive interview with him.

(17:16):
I don't have audio because they didn't have audio, But
I have what he said in quotes, and I will
read to you what Donald Trump said in regards to
not just this meeting with the MSNBC anchors, but also
what he thinks about what his presidency looks like as
he also tries to do his part to heal America
first and foremost. We'll get to that next here on

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news radio eleven ten kfab This is an unpopular opinion, probably,
but you know what makes the weekend so special is
that you have to work the other five days of
the week. Yeah, like the weekends don't mean as much
if you know, like every day felt like a weekend,
you know. So I don't know, I kind of like
the ups and the downs.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, Like if you had cake for every meal, it
wouldn't be special anymore. It would just be like the
meal you have all the time, exactly. And you'd also
have type two diabetes.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah that that that also probably not great. It would
be my guess you would need to see a doctor
about that.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Might lose a foot.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I've heard that happen to some people. I would I
would hate to be that guy, but anyway, I either way,
we hope that you're having a great Monday. Now here
you go with this MSNBC thing, and our buddy AM
send me an email. We played the two and a
half minutes that started Morning Joe Today on MSNBC, and

(18:40):
AM reminds us that this is an issue with ratings
and viewership because they they if you missed the clip,
it is Mika. Do we know how to say her
last name? I don't watch that closely. It's Brazowski or
something like that. Not not the green guy from Monsters, Inc.
But like the Mike Wazowski. Yeah, not that one, but

(19:04):
Brazinski or something like that. Something like that.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Got my eye on you.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Actually, thanks, I've been working on it.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
She is a mess, that monster. Anyway, Mika Brazinski. I'm
gonna just, you know, guess that that's how it's said.
But and Joe Scarborough on Morning Joe, Mika and Joe,
and they've been together a long time, the very left
leaning and liberal as their station is, but they met
with Donald Trump on Friday. They talked about that today

(19:31):
this morning on their show, and AM reminds us that
there's an issue with ratings and viewership. There's the Comcast
cell of MSNBC. They didn't want to endlessly browbeat Trump
and suddenly they want to play fair. Do you really
want to pretend to be a SAP? Well, Am, First
of all, this is not the first email I've received

(19:52):
from this person, and they generally do you know, try
to get under my skin with something, you know, like that.
There are a lot of people that they want me
to me be in a SAP. Okay, yeah, you know,
that is what it is. But I get that there's
more to this. This isn't playing fair, Am. I don't

(20:12):
think that's what this is. I think this is Okay,
we lost the election, Okay, I don't think MSNBC is
going to lose viewership because Donald Trump won the election.
What I do think is if they truly want the
Democrats to rally be interested in politics, have a chance
to take back one or both chambers of Congress in

(20:33):
twenty six in the midterms, if they want to take
back the presidency and maybe even more stuff in twenty eight,
you have to change the way that you're looking at things.
This is not just an MSNBC thing. They're just actually
saying it out loud, which is something that no one
is doing in the liberal media right now, you can
tell me that it is the politics of oh, we're

(20:53):
afraid of viewership decline, and we need to make sure
that you know, if this network is going to get
bought by somebody and a lot of money is at stake,
we need to position it where it's not this partisan.
It being this partisan is what's carved its success in
the first place. It's not a network that a lot
of people who are listening to my voice right now

(21:14):
are probably watching that much. But it certainly is a
network that is watched by people who share those political beliefs,
and they're going to continue to watch it even though
Donald Trump won the presidency. I don't want to hear
about the ratings and viewership because I don't think MSNBC
is going to a crater because the Democrats lost an election.
I think this has and honestly, you really think that

(21:36):
anybody who's right leaning, anybody on the right of the
political spectrum, anybody over there is going to be like, oh,
MSNBC's talking pretty decent about Trump these days, or at
least treating them like a human being. I'm gonna flip
their channel on. Do you know a single conservative that
would actually do that, other than just to get perspective
from the other side, which is what I do. I

(21:57):
watch and listen to this. You know why I watch
and listen to it because it's part of my job.
I generally like to be as balanced as I possibly
can in my intake of information. These are the same
people that during the campaign, we're telling all these crazy
radical lives about this man and trying to figure out
specifically what he was going to do to destroy the

(22:19):
United States, so they could tell everybody so their side
not only would win the election, but it probably make
them feel like they did something important for America and
they can do the victory lap and all that stuff
like they did in twenty twenty. Well, that didn't happen
this time, did it. The definition of insanity is doing
the same thing over and over again and expecting the

(22:39):
result to be different. I honestly think that this is
more of Hey, we are actually journalists here, and whether
we like it or not, there's no doubt that Donald
Trump won the presidential election of twenty twenty four and
Republicans took over the House and the Senate. We probably
need to adjust the way that we're approaching these things.
Matt mentioned aoc taking her pronouns off of her ex

(23:00):
account bio seems like a pretty small thing. But maybe
there's been a coalition of democratic thinkers that got together
and said this is just a turn off to anybody
who's not a hardcore liberal, and they were like, you
know what, maybe you're right, Maybe we need to see
things a little bit differently. That doesn't mean they're not
going to very angrily or very openly disagree or combat

(23:24):
some of Donald Trump's ideas or what the Republicans are
trying to do in Congress. There certainly are going to
still do that, but it's important to do that in
a way that's constructive for America. That we're having debates
about policies and not just yelling at each other, claiming
each other to be threats to democracy because we disagree
with each other on certain things. That is unhealthy. That

(23:44):
created the incredible visceral and volatile political climate that we
currently are having to survive here in America. And everybody
was talking about, well, if this person wins is going
to be the end of the world. This person wins
is going to be a civil like, what's going to
happen next we don't know if anybody's going to storm
the Capitol or anything like that. Well, I can tell

(24:05):
you in the two weeks since this election, it was
enough of a row beating, if you will, to steal
AM's term in their email. But it was enough of
a browbeating in all races collectively that the Democrats feel
like they got to go back to the drawing board here.
And there's not a whole lot to be mad about
except the fact that they lost. And I'm thankful that

(24:29):
most people with their head on straight is they're not
going and claiming foul and that somehow the Republicans cheated
their way to this victory, because that would be a
very hypocritical thing for them to do after demonizing Republicans
for asking questions about a very, very controversial twenty twenty election.
At the same time, I think it's incredibly healthy for

(24:49):
Americans to disagree about certain things. So how do we
find that medium of disagreeing about things but not hating
each other. Well, the first thing is admit defeat, and
it seems like most Democrats are admitting to f That's good. Now,
it's a matter of okay, So how can we make
this country better and maybe position each political party to
be a little bit more healthier opponents, so people aren't

(25:09):
voting with their emotion of who am I scared of
or offended by the least, And I think the people
at MSNBC, at least the people on their morning show,
is getting to a spot where they realize we need
to talk about these people as human beings and not
necessarily as if they're existential threats to the way of
life that we currently live in. To me, that's a

(25:33):
positive thing, regardless of what them back end motivation may be.
But you can't tell me that's done to increase viewership
when they literally lean into that ideology just to have
viewership at all. If somebody wanted conservative sounding politics, they
already have places to go if they wanted a little
bit more how do I say this a little bit

(25:55):
more acceptable and subtle references. CNN definitely is a little
bit more moderate compared to MSNBC, although very liberal and progressive.
Still it's not nearly as openly liberal and progressive in
the way that they talk about things like NBC is
Why would NBC or MSNBC try to try to exist

(26:18):
in their same space. There's no room for them, they'd
be actually losing viewers if anything, if they abandoned where
they are on the political spectrum. That's not what this is.
This is quite literally, well, if we're the Democrats and
we're trying to help democrats or speak about democratic things
to other Democrats, we need to change our tune a
little bit because that's the only way that we can
give hope of winning in the future and maybe in

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the process make America stronger, which also benefits all of us.
I don't know, just a thought. It's two forty eight.
I'll come back. I have those quotes from Donald Trump
that he talked about his relationship with the media this
morning in a Fox News digital exclusive. I'll give you
a couple of those quotes and why those matter. Next
here on News Radio eleven tenab and Rais Songer, we

(27:01):
talked about how MSNBC in the way that they talked
this morning, and there were more to their comments. There
are a couple more minutes of that, and they say,
we're not going to defend him, we're not going to
normalize his behavior or anything like that, but we're going
to report on him as reporters. And I think that's
an important distinction, right, because this isn't about making him
seem like he's a regular president, because that would go

(27:24):
against anything that they have said about him over the
last eight years. But what it does do is at
least give people who are people who like that kind
of political chatter, who are generally not going to be
Trump fans or supporters. If they're watching MSNBC with any
sort of allegiance, they are not going to feel like
they want Donald Trump to be normalized or anything. But

(27:47):
it is important if they at least feel like there
is an arm or an ear to what he is saying,
and he is talking to them, and you might be
saying out there, well, why would Donald Trump want to
waste his time talking to these people? Anyway? They tried
to make him seem like he was literally Hitler in
the run up to the election, a true fascist dictator.

(28:09):
They were saying this about this man before this election.
Why should he care about them at all? Well, Donald
Trump wants to make America great again. That's why here
are a couple of quotes here in this piece. He said,
in order to make America grade again, it is very important,
if not vital, to have a free, fair and open
media or press. I received a call from Joe Scarborough

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requesting a meeting for him and Mika, and I agreed
that it would be a good thing if such a
meeting took place. We met at mar A Lago on
Friday morning at eight. The meeting was extremely cordial. Many
things were discussed, and I very much appreciated the fact
that they wanted to have an open communication in many ways,
It's too bad that it wasn't done long ago. Now, look,

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there's Donald Trump. Since he's been elected, has been fairly complimentary,
and we saw him in the way that he talked
to Joe Biden when they were at the White House
and everything. You cannot tell me these people actually hate
each other, You can't. Donald Trump himself doesn't have a
lot of hate in him right, Like a lot of
people that support him have exuded some factors of hate

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in certain issues, and that has been a point of
contention among people who are opposed to Donald Trump in
conservative politics. But Donald Trump himself hasn't necessarily been this
kind of guy that's speaking out loud that you should
just hate certain people. Now, he has said that he
may want some retribution, but he goes against that here
in these quotes, and he says, like, I think it's

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important for us to bring the country to the highest
level it's ever been. We're off to a good start,
and I will be opening free as to further developments
as they take place, and that includes media relationships. And
he's not looking for retribution, grand standing, or to destroy
people who treated him unfairly. He's looking to give a
second and a third chance. But he says he will
never be willing to give a fourth chance. That's where

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he holds the line. Interesting quotes from Donald Trump, but
he seems like he's very willing to work with people
who were his opponents, especially in the media this time around.
Something worth paying attention to if we're trying to heal America.
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