Tyson v Paul | Favorability Ratings | Union Omaha Wins it All

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
It was electric in there.

Speaker 3 (00:02):
They scored a second goal off a corner kick, probably
before the twentieth or twenty fifth minute or something like that,
but played basically most of the game up by a
couple of goals, added a third for good major in
like the seventy fifth minute or so in the last
portion of the game, and then we're able to hold
on from there, and then the trophy celebration and everything.

(00:23):
It was just a you don't get to see any
championships in person, you know what I mean, and this
one legitimate professional team, just like the Storm Chasers and
just like the Supernovas. There's something about that of, you know, like,
these are our players, these are our teams in our city,
and they're winning these championships in Omaha. Pretty awesome stuff.

(00:43):
So big congrats to the Owls and their entire group.
We've of course talked to Marty Cordero the last couple
of weeks as part of the playoff push, Dom Casciato,
who is their coach. He's been on our show as well.
Rashid Knew, who was the team captain, the goalkeeper. He
has been on our show before, so you know, I'm
a big advocate for soccer. It's really a growing in

(01:04):
a big way here in the United States and here
in Omaha specifically. And it's always awesome to see a championship,
second title ever for the Union Omaha in League One.
But this is definitely they are on the radars one
of the most successful teams in the last five years
in all of American soccer. You can really, like, pound
for pound, you can make the case that Union Omaha

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is the best of the best in American soccer at
the level in which they play at. That doesn't mean
that they're going to beat a bunch of MLS clubs
or anything like that, but it does mean they can
be competitive with them. They've shown that they have defeated
some MLS clubs in the US Open Cup. They took
you know, Sporting Kansas City this year to the one
hundred and twentieth minute before it was eventually they eventually

(01:50):
lost over there at canigli A Field on the campus
of the University of Nebraska Omaha. But I'm sitting here
just like a regular dude, and I gotta be honest
with you, like I am psyched up for what the
future of that club holds and the attention that it's
getting and what it could mean with this new downtown
stadium that they're gonna be working on here in the
next few months and hopefully they get that thing done

(02:12):
on time for the twenty twenty six season. Very exciting stuff.
So congrats to all of our friends over there. Another
thing that we, you know, want, like I wanted to
speak on here, is we have to talk about this.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Joe Biden thing. Will do that in a little bit,
but I wanted to speak on this.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
There is a story out from the New York Times
and there are different like polls that somebody put together,
and I saw this initially on the Fox News web page,
but then you know, there's a bunch of different links
to all these different stats and polls, and I guess
this is a question, Matt are you are you familiar

(02:51):
with Taylor Swift?

Speaker 4 (02:53):
I've heard of that she plays music, right.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, that's her.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, Well, she is a famous She has two hundred
and thirty eight million followers on Instagram, which sounds like
a lot, but I mean, I guess that many people
like her looking at her Instagram. I don't know how
many of those are real or bots, but that's a
lot of that's a big number. Taylor Swift famously endorsed

(03:17):
Kamala Harrison Tim Wallas, Right, we were unsure if we
were going to get one. We figured if there was
going to be one, she was going to endorse the
Democrats because she has a history of doing that. She's famous,
you know, pretty famous, right. Have you ever thought about
comparing her or people in her like line of work
in doing polls about their favorability rankings like we do

(03:38):
for politicians.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Have you thought about that before?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Like, who would have the highest favorability rating of any
musician in America?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
I got an answer for you that it would have
been a couple months ago but has since changed. What's that,
Dave Grohl?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
What would you think that percentage would be for him
right now?

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Right now? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Favorability.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
I think it would have been pretty high a couple
months ago, but yeah, I think it's.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Still probably is.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
You know, like how many people like, oh, yeah, he
cheated on his wife and it's having a baby with
this other woman, Like is that the kind of thing
that like he'd lose a big chunk, he'd lose some.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
I think so I would I would? I mean, if
we're talking favorability, It's like, Okay, do I still like
the music. I'm sure plenty of people still like the music,
But if you're taking a poll of like how do
you view him? I think that people would change the
way they answered that question.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Usually a person that's going to be really high on
like a favorability that's not a politician, has to be
fairly apolitical, don't you think to maximize what people think
about them? And I'm trying to think like a person
in the music industry, because it certainly isn't Taylor Swift.
I mean, we hear from people on our show all
the time if people who don't like her, and I

(04:47):
think maybe some of that's politically motivated. I also think
we're all over exposed to her. When you're overexposed to anything,
you're generally going to dislike it.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
I think I'm that way.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I love twenty one Pilots until they started being on
the radio over five minutes. Then I was like, gosh,
everybody likes twenty one Pilots, I'm kind of done with them.
Like the Chiefs, great example, don't you think I would
love to like Patrick Mahomes. Don't you think it'd be
a lot of fun to like and cheer for. Patrick
Mahomes can't do it. Too many people are there, and
I have to watch them on national TV every single week.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Not interested. I'm over eight. I need something else. Does
that make sense?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
It does? And also at this moment right now, they
just won the last two. They're trying to do something that,
if I understand correctly, has never been done three in
a row, three super Bowls in a row.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Nobody's won three Super Bowls in a row. There have
been three teams that have appeared in three Super Bowls
in a row, but not won three super Bowls. And
they are attempting to be the first team to make
a third Super Bowl after winning two in a row.
So no team's actually even had a chance at a
three peat that you lose before.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
They get to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, So, like anybody who's a fan of the NFL,
especially if you have your own team that you root for,
you get a team that has that level of success,
you're kind of like, Okay, I'm done with you guys.
You've had your moment, You've had your stuff. Yeah, whor's
team moment? When when's my turn? Kind of thing?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, I'm there.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
That's kind of the thing about Taylor Swift, though, is
I think it's just we're over exposed. I don't know
if it's all I don't think it's all about the
politics or it being political, So okay. So with that
being said, though, right, I don't even know like who
the number one musician would be in that way because

(06:23):
so many people have just gotten themselves meddled into politics.
Chapel Roone certainly is a person that has burst onto
the scene and gotten incredibly and wildly popular over the
last you know, eight to twelve months, and good for her,
she's very left winging her politics.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Refuse to make an endorsement.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
However, at the same time, I mean, like every single
one of her concerts, it's really not it. Like the
music and the messaging and stuff is just not for me.
So like, while I can appreciate maybe her talent and
maybe a couple of the songs that I listened to
or like, yeah that's not so bad, I don't think
it's for me, you know. So it's hard to have
a high favorability for anybody in any public entity, I think, right,

(07:03):
it's very difficult. This is why you know, all these
news networks and everything try to lean into just one
type of audience because they want to speak to that
audience and they know they can make a living there. Well,
the question becomes, what is Taylor Swift's what is her
favorability rating? And how does that look in a sample
against somebody like Donald Trump, who she adamantly apparently like,

(07:27):
she didn't tell people not to vote for him.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
She said, if you like, vote with your heart or whatever.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
It wasn't like an endorsement of saying like, you better
vote for this person, you should only vote for this person.
She didn't say anything really about Trump. She said, I'm
voting for these people, Harrison Wallas and this is why.
And that was the end. That was all she all
she's And then she said you should vote however your
heart desires. Voting is an important thing to do. I

(07:52):
can respect that we can have different political perspectives. But
did that make a dentt against Donald Trump? Because a
lot of people when that came out acted like this
was the endorsement of all endorsements, as if America itself
was hinged upon one specific person telling all of their
followers how to vote. Well, I have those numbers in
front of me. I will tell you how Taylor Swift

(08:14):
lines up in favorability ratings, and also how Taylor Swift's
favorability ratings compared to Donald Trump's favorability ratings. We'll get
to that next. It is three sixteen on news radio
eleven ten kfab and grading these entertainers essentially like we
do politicians. Charles emailed in and said, Dolly Parton.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
H Okay, yeah, I could definitely see that.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I could see that too. I actually think that, like
her favorability rating, like who doesn't like her? Is there
a sect of people out there somewhere that isn't a
Dolly Parton fan?

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah? Like, you know what, there's probably plenty of people who
are kind of more neutral on this subject, but who
actively dislikes Dolly Parton. I'd be wondering, like, what's your
criteria of disliking Dolly Parton?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Well, okay, you might have been overexposed to Dolly maybe
in like the late seventies and maybe into the eighties. Sure,
but she's kind of become just America's grandma in a way,
and like the entertainment industry, she pops into movies, she's
always just this really nice and bubbly person. She has
done a lot of work on her body, of course,
and has maintained a level of attractiveness that I think
make people who aren't even into country music very aware

(09:21):
of what she looks like. Right, Like you say, Dolly Parton.
There's not many people in America that's not going to
be able to like put a face to that name
in their head, you know what I mean, because they're
aware of that. That makes sense. So I think she's
a really good one. I would bet that she's probably
like seventy to eighty percent at least in people liking

(09:42):
her because you're not like overexposed to her, and the
music isn't offensive like a lot of current day people
where you listen to it and you're just like, is
there a real instrument on this like at all? And
the answer in a lot of ways is just no.
Now we're talking about this in the context of what
Taylor Swift's favorability is, because I want to compare this
to Donald Trump and try to like wigh if Taylor

(10:04):
Swift's endorsement highly publicized endorsement of Kamala Harris and Tim Wallas,
whether it actually made any difference whatsoever versus Donald Trump's favorability. Like,
who has a higher favorability rating amongst Americans? Between Donald
Trump and Taylor Swift? You would think that that's apples

(10:25):
and oranges. It shouldn't matter. These are two people in
completely different worlds. Ah. If that endorsement matters, then it
should matter what people think about Taylor Swift, right, Matt. Like,
if I'm if Matt Case endorses a candidate for any
office whatsoever, that is targeted towards the people that like
Matt Case, isn't it. The people have to like enough

(10:46):
people have to like Matt Case. That are gonna be like, oh,
if Matt likes that person, I should like that person too.
That's the whole point, right, It matters how popular you
are if you're interested in following the leader on a
celebrity who makes a pick, I'm not crazy for that.
So what do you think the favorability rating is of
Taylor Swift?

Speaker 6 (11:04):
Hm?

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Hmmm, I'm gonna guess it's above fifty maybe like fifty
four percent.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Fifty four percent?

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, do you okay? Fifty four percent? And then I
have to give you the third option, which is I
have no opinion. So so insteadively, It's not like if
you said fifty four it wouldn't be forty six percent unfavorable. Like, right,
there's going to be a portion of people that just
say I don't have an opinion, if that makes sense. So,

(11:30):
so what would be the number of people who have
an unfavorable opinion if it's fifty four percent favorable?

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Oh okay, so there's so there's three total options you
can answer.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, you can say no opinion, and there is a
chunk that said that.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Okay, so I might change if it's not just two
options to choose, correct, Yeah, yeah, I should have said
that at first. Yeah, I'll say maybe, uh, we'll say, uh,
thirty nine percent favorable, thirty eight percent unfavorable, and then
what's the rest it's there whatever the difference is the
difference or something like that, twenty three.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Twenty it would be twenty three yes, twenty three percent no, no.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Opinion, that's my guess.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, okay, interesting, you are pretty darn close. Okay, you
did well here.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Forty four percent said favorable, thirty four percent said unfavorable. Okay,
now see on the math on that is, like that's
ten percent better, right, Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
That's that's good.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
The Philadelphia Inquirer and Seeing a College hit a poll
right after she did this endorsement earlier in the late summer,
early fall. I suppose actually that was in September, right,
that was right after the debate that Kamala did, so
it was in September. Well, anyway, she does this and
Philadelphia Inquirer and Seeing a College work together on this

(12:42):
poll and it comes out in the New York Times,
who also partnered with this, and they said twenty five
hundred people were the sample size, forty four percent favorable,
thirty four percent were unfavorable, and then twenty two percent
had no opinion, Like they didn't really have a strong
opinion about her one way or the other. I feel
like a politician that number of no opinion is probably

(13:06):
smaller these days than like an entertainer. I mean, you could, like,
what's your opinion on Kevin Hart? Do you have a
strong opinion on Kevin Hart?

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Honestly, I don't.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I write, he's a guy that you would like, unless
like you just love his movies. Like I feel like
the number of people that just like they are aware
of who Kevin Hart is, but they probably I don't
know anybody that just like strongly is like a huge
Kevin Hart fan, or they hate Kevin Hart. He's just
kind of a guy. I don't know how many people
feel that way about a politician. So it doesn't surprise
me that twenty two percent if people were like, I

(13:35):
don't really have an opinion on Taylor Swift. That sounds
like a lot, but it's really like, I think it's
reasonable because there's a lot of people out there that
don't necessarily listen to a ton of her music. They're
aware of who she is, but they don't even like
her or dislike her. They don't really feel that way
one way or the other. Well, in this poll, forty
four percent said that they have a favorable opinion if
you listen to anybody in America, or you watch those

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Eras Tours videos, or you see the movie, and you
talk about how famous and all how beloved she seems
to be. That forty four percent sounds actually pretty low
compared to the fifty six percent that she's left on
the table there. However, in favorability ratings, forty four is
not actually too bad. You look at the current president,
Joe Biden. He's been dancing around the low thirties, a

(14:16):
lot of his in a lot of separate polls about
his favorability, I think, you know, one of the more
respected polls had him at like thirty seven or thirty
eight percent most recently. That's not good for a politician,
but it's not unheard of to have somebody like dancing
around in the thirties for a politician, because it's so
easy to find stuff to hate about them. Taylor Swift,
though this apparently universally beloved figure, that this endorsement was

(14:40):
going to matter so much that she endorsed Kamala Harris
and Tim Walls Well. Only forty four percent of a
twenty five hundred person sample said that, yeah, I think
of her favorably. In the thirty four percent sample said
I don't like her. You know, like, what would thirty
four percent of people openly say they hate Dwayne the
Rock Johnson if they were asked the same question about him?

(15:01):
Thirty four sounds like a lot. I don't think thirty
four percent of people would dislike him if asked. He
hasn't really given people a reason to dislike him, and
I would figure the only reason people dislike Taylor Swift
is A were overexposed to her, she's everywhere, and b
the political thing she's given people who disagree with her
politics to have an additional reason to feel negatively about her.

(15:23):
So that same poll, that same group Philadelphia inquirers se
in a college in the New York Times, what do
you think they found in the same twenty five hundred
percent survey of a favorability of Donald Trump, same parameters.
You can be favorable, unfavorable, or no opinion. I'm going
to guess no opinion is lower, much lower, much much

(15:44):
much much lower. Okay, well, based on the results of
the latest election, I'll guess like fifty three percent favorable.
This is what we'll say, fifty two percent favorable, forty
seven percent unfavorable, one percent no opinion. You're very close
as well, but a little off. Okay, forty seven percent favorable,

(16:07):
fifty one unfavorable. So it is still within that that
the confines of this twenty five hundred people surveyed. It
was a national pull, so this was not just targeted
at one specific demo or one specific area of the country.
But fifty one percent said unfavorable, which is within the
margin of Eras to basically what he won the election,
buy in the popular vote, and then there were only

(16:29):
two percent of people who said that they had no opinion,
Because how do you have no opinion on Donald Trump
at this point?

Speaker 7 (16:35):
Right?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Like, like you just clearly do not want to pay
attention to politics. You're making a concerted effort to stay
away from the news cycle if you have no opinion
on on Donald Trump, for good or for bad. So
but you look at that forty seven percent favorable that's
three points higher than the favorability rating of Taylor Swift.

(16:56):
So how big of a gain was Taylor Swift's in
endorsement to Donald Trump or to Kamala Harrison her matchup
with Donald Trump. Yeah, I'm sure it obviously made the
news and all sorts of different conversations that people have
around the country about the power of the political endorsement.

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But I said on this show, these are people that
don't have any type of relatability to most of us
around America. This endorsement was only going to be powerful
for maybe first time voters who might mostly would be
young girls who are between eighteen and thirty, who aren't
really up on the news, aren't really into politics, and

(17:38):
basically get all their political news from the people they
care about, which are the celebrities that they listen to.
This could have been a person that, hey, maybe I
should actually vote, and I'll vote for the person that
my idol, my music idol, is voting for, and that
would be the power of this. Now, young women did
vote for Kamala Harris more than they voted for Donald Trump,
but women as a whole not really the case. And

(18:01):
and you know, women of an older age certainly didn't
feel that same way. And on top of that, you know,
young people in general, even even men who you know,
I don't know how many men of that same age demographic.
You know, it's probably less than half of the women
audience would be interested in Taylor Swift and her endorsement.

(18:22):
But the certainly you would think have a factor. Well,
young men pretty regularly were voting for Donald Trump. You
made great gains in the young men demographics. So it's
interesting we made all like I say, we collectively as
the media made a lot about the Kamala Harris endorsement
by Taylor Swift, and based on those numbers and some

(18:43):
of the numbers that we saw actually in the election,
and these exceit poles and the demos that actually went
out and voted. I'm not so sure it made much
of a difference at all, except gave the news cycle
something to talk about the next day. That's all I
can think of. Pretty interesting stuff, though. If you want
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Speaker 4 (19:15):
Are you talking about the old boxing match?

Speaker 3 (19:18):
That's exactly what I'm about to talk about there, Maddie boy.
So we talked about this for those who didn't watch
or didn't pay attention, or one of the people that
were trying to watch and couldn't, or one of the
people who, you know, thought we were stupid for even
talking about it and didn't really understand it. Mike Tyson,
fifty eight year old Mike Tyson, who hasn't boxed in

(19:41):
an officially sanctioned professional bout in nearly twenty years, is
taking on a man thirty one years his junior in
twenty seven year old Jake Paul, a noted YouTuber who's
also a good athlete, but a YouTuber who has learned
how to promote in the fight game, and did so

(20:01):
in a way that we had not seen to this
point before.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Matt, first and foremost, did you watch this thing?

Speaker 4 (20:08):
I did not?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Did you not intentionally or was this something that you
intentionally tried to try to tune in for?

Speaker 4 (20:17):
I don't have Netflix, but I mean I could have
probably found a friend who did and figured that out.
I just to be honest what I was doing that night,
I'll tell you I was. I was jamming with some friends.
Oh nice, Yeah, it honestly, it was a ten out
of you know, it was at eleven out of ten
night because we're on eleven ten Kfab actually had a
couple a couple of old friends in town and guitars

(20:40):
busted out. You had a couple of bruise. It was
an amazing Friday night. So I forgot all about it
quite frankly. That's awesome, dude. Yeah, I'm happy, like I
need to get me some friends like that. It was fun, Yeah,
it was. It was really cool.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah. Well, if you need a drummer, hit me up
next time.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Okay, So did you hear about this.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
I heard that it was kind of glitchy, that it
was freezing up for some people because so many people
were tuned in.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, it was. It was horrific. It was horrific, so.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Total viewers, all that stuff. We're trying to figure out
exactly how it worked. But the only way you could
really watch this, based on what my experience was because
I was trying to tune in and watch. I wanted
to see what happened. I got sucked into the hype,
just like a lot of other people did. I don't
watch a lot of boxing. I watched Bud Crawford's fights.
I like heavyweight boxing. I so like Tyson Fury when

(21:36):
he faced Oo sick. I watched some Anthony Joshua. I
really like him as a fighter, and like some of
the good heavyweight boxers like I'll try to, you know,
go out of my way to go to a place
that's showing them. I don't pay for the pay per views,
but we talked about this one. The reason this could
have done major numbers is because it wasn't behind an

(21:56):
additional paywall. If you had Netflix, you had access to
this thing, and that was going to make a difference
in how many casual people decided to watch it, Because
how many people who are casual fight fans were going
to order a sixty or one hundred dollars pay per
view to watch boxing matches.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
It's just not likely. But a lot of.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
These casual people already have Netflix. Why not see what
all the fuss is about. Every time I used the
app on my television at home and I went to
a bar that was trying to show it as well.
The bar, it was glitching the whole time. As soon
as they got to the co main event, which was
Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano, which that was an incredible fight.
I was watching on my phone, my phone on like

(22:36):
the cell tower. Like the five G, it was working.
I was able to watch it. It was a little glitchy,
but not that much. Every time I try to put
it on my television or connect to my Wi Fi,
it wasn't working. I don't know if it's just like
the five G could handle the capabilities of the people
trying to tune in, but I could not get it
to work in every bar. The two bars that I
was at that were showing it when I was down

(22:58):
in the Exabon area, and then you know, my own
TV at home when I went home to try to
flip it on before the main event.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
None of those would work.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
So I don't know what the story is between what
was working on what wasn't working, but I had it
on my phone and I was able to watch it
over five G using the cell towers. Now, the Amanda
Serrano Katie Taylor fight was really really good, Like these
are two lightweight women's you know, this was for the
undisputed women's lightweight championship, and I thought that Serrano had won,

(23:28):
and so did many other people, but the decision came
in that Katie Taylor actually had won. Fifty million people were,
according to Netflix, tuned in for that match the co
main event. Now, I don't know how many people knew
who Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano were before that, but
that is the most watched professional women's sporting event in
the history of the United States. That that number is accurate,

(23:50):
Like think about that, Think about think about fifty million
people we talk about and celebrate rightly so that we're
getting you know, we're seeing women's professional basketball in the
WNBA getting like two two and a half million viewers
for like some of their big games. We're talking fifty
million tuned in and saw this fight, and this fight
was legit. This could have been like this is maybe

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the fight of the year according to the people who
watched boxing regularly. And this was the second time these
two had fought, and Serrano very upset on social media
after the fact, thought it was robbed from her and
she said she'd love for it to be a trilogy.
She apologized for some of her comments and said that
she's okay with Katie Taylor as a person. They don't

(24:35):
have any beef, but she felt like she had she'd
won the FIP. Well, that fight was over, and they
spent forever hyping up the main event, as they should, right,
this is the whole reason people are tuned in. Mike
Tyson and Jake Paul guess how many viewers were locked
and loaded the most at one time. The peak concurrent
stream number for the main event on Friday.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Night was it was it around like somewhere around there.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
So they think at least that many people either attempted
to sign in or watched part of this show. They
are unable to confirm that that many people did see
it at the same time.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Gotcha.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
So they said the peak of people at the same
time streaming it concurrently, based on their numbers, was sixty
five million, which is still a ridiculous number for a
boxing match, but again has everything to do with the
fact this was not on pay per view. It was
well promoted, It's been promoted for months, and they moved
the date right, I mean, it was supposed to be
a couple months ago, but he had the Tyson had

(25:35):
the ulcer issue and they had to push it back.
Sixty five million, though, that is massive. Sixty million was
the average that they they are estimating throughout the main event.
That's a huge number. So we're gonna see kind of
what more look like. And we know that thousands of
people were really upset, you know, millions potentially upset the

(25:57):
way that the app was working, and Neflick is trying
to get into more and more live content, so that
in and of itself wasn't good publicity for them. Many
people of high profile status said, I can't believe Netflix
tried to do this at this high profile of an
event and it's just flopping hard because their servers can't
handle the traffic at least that's what the assumption is.

(26:20):
And they got more live stuff that's coming up, right.
They did the eating contest on Labor Day with Kobe
Yashi and Joey Chestnut. That didn't have near like they
had like ten million people watch, and that didn't seem
to have any problems. Which still ten million people tuning
in to watch a couple of guys eat a bunch
of hot dogs, I mean that's pretty crazy. But you
know they're gonna Monday Night Raw, the wrestling show for

(26:42):
WWE starting in January that starts there. There's some other
you know, live shows that they're planning to broadcast.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
They have the NFL.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Did you know that they have two NFL games on
Christmas Day that are supposed to be on Netflix and
only Netflix.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
So how's that gonna work?

Speaker 3 (26:57):
I don't think sixty million people are gonna be tuning
in to watch NFL games on Christmas Day, So I
don't know if like the traffic's going to be so
much it's going to crash the site again. But I
gotta tell you, I mean, like I don't feel great
about being able to watch those football games after this.
You know, Netflix melt down basically in their servers for
this boxing match. They have just over a month to

(27:19):
try to figure that out. But my confidence is low
that that's going to be taken care of. Now it's
three forty eight. What exactly did I think about the fight?
I'll tell you next. Stick Around News Radio eleven ten
kfab Emery sung hyped up for the week leading up
to this fight on Friday.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Let me turn my mic on there. I did h
doesn't look like I missed much.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Well, I'm surprised that somebody was able to find a
couple of highlights to send to you, because, you know,
like Paul landed a couple of shots Kyson, like he
got him like once on the chin a little bit.

Speaker 6 (27:52):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
He looked fifty eight. He looked like he couldn't move
very well in there. It was a waste of everyone's time.
It was a massive waste of time. The people were
booing as the rounds were ending. Oh wow, Jake, Paul,
you know like they got scammed. Man, we all got scammed.
And this is what promoting a fight is like. And
this is why I prefer professional wrestling, because they wouldn't

(28:14):
let anything like this happened in pro wrestling. If this
was a pro wrestling match, both those guys would have
had some legitimately exciting offense and you wouldn't know which
way it would go after the second round. I mean,
there was no doubt Jake Paul won the last six rounds. Now,
you could be really nice to Mike Tyson and say, hey,
he actually showed some offense and he was moving forward
in the first couple of rounds.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Remember these were two minute rounds, remember that.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
And he threw like ninety seven punches and landed like
eighteen of them or something like that.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
In eight two minute rounds he did nothing and he's
fifty eight. I get it.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
And then Jake Paul afterwards said I didn't want to
hurt him, you know, like you know, they talked all
this smack to each other. I felt like it wasn't
on the up and up anyway, not that they didn't try,
but they weren't going to kill each other. They were
they acted like all this stuff, and Mike slapped him
on Thursday at the face off, which Matt you had
some words about. You thought that was all, you know,
like a you know, you don't like the barbarianism or

(29:09):
whatever about this, But it was so obviously set up
to want us to watch this thing to see what
would happened. And then they both took care of each other,
like you know, they were out there doing a.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Dance almost yeah, and they both had lots of money
on the line, so they knew they wanted to make
a show of it as much as they could. But yeah,
you know, what do you think about I just what
do you think about the things people are saying on
Twitter about Mike Tyson potentially not given us all, Mike

(29:40):
Tyson potentially pulling some punches now now, okay, I think
he's just old. People are doing the side beside of
him training and you know the training montage that everyone
shows when he's you know, for Rose, he's he's basically
ripping that glove off the guy. Yeah yeah. But then,
like what I came away thinking, and again I'm a
guy who didn't watch the I just saw some highlights

(30:01):
of it. But what I came away thinking was, man,
the health issues that he had that must have really
set him back, because.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Well, think about think about it in this way, right,
like the stuff we were seeing in his training, we
were seeing him do in like fifteen second increments. Right,
He's not standing there for two minute rounds and it's choreographed.
He's doing an exercise that specifically is choreographed. He knows
he's not gonna get hit in the face when he's
doing those workouts in the ring, and I don't. I

(30:31):
have never boxed or sparred with anybody with real gloves on, right,
like I have done boxing classes. Boxing wears you out.
It is an underrated cardio workout. I highly recommend it
to somebody who wants to try something new and get
their brain working while they're doing something physical. It really
is a challenge, and there are different boxing workouts you
can do in different gyms. I highly recommend it. But

(30:52):
when you're thinking about just doing your boxing moves, your
brain's working and it is physical. But then you throw
in the element of I have to move around so
I don't get my head knocked off, or I have
to protect my body so I don't take a ton
of big body shots. I'm sure that was wearing on him.
And on top of that, we're not talking about ten
or fifteen second increments. We're asking a fifty eight year

(31:15):
old guy who hasn't been in a sanctioned boxing match
in almost twenty years to try to move around in
a ring with a twenty seven year old and have
the ability to not just deflect his shots, but to
throw shots himself, which also take a lot of energy
out of him. I just think he's old, dude, and
for two minutes at a time, for eight rounds, I

(31:36):
think he's washed, just like any other fifty eight year
old would be. And I don't think that that's a
bad thing. I just think that we were fools for
thinking a fifty eight year old Nike Tyson was going
to be able to do something that no fifty eight
year old has ever even attempted to do before and
be successful in doing so.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
We set our hopes.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
And our expectations at a place that they should have
never been at, and we're fools for thinking that way.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Hindsight's twenty twenty, of course. AnyWho, it's a good question.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
I just you know, it's easy to you know, for
fifteen seconds feat the crap out of a pad that
a guy's holding for you. It's not as easy to
go in there and have to try to protect yourself
while moving around two minutes at a time. Anyway, we'll
come back four o'clock hour. We got to talk about
Biden in Ukraine. We'll talk more about Donald Trump and
the media next on news radio eleven t in KFAB.
Before I get back into like political news, because there's

(32:22):
plenty to catch up on from over the weekend, I
wanted to finish up what we were talking about about
this Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight last Friday, which we
talked about how hyped it was, and I did watch it.
I was able to figure out a way to get
around Netflix, you know, you know, having a meltdown essentially
with the servers. And I watch it and it's sad.

(32:44):
It was just really a sad display of competition. And
I didn't think it was rigged at all. I really
felt like they took care of each other. They protected
each other. Neither guy was going to try to knock
the block off of the other guy, even though they
try to play it off as if that was something
they were going to do. And they promoted the fight
really well, because that's half of the battle, you know,
you want people to tune in and even if the

(33:05):
fight stinks, at least they paid for it or they
watched it and uh, I don't know, it was it was.
It was a tough watch. Mike Tyson looked like an
old man in there, and Jake Paul after the fact
said he really didn't want to hurt a guy that
didn't need to be hurt, and he obviously respects Mike Tyson,
even though they didn't make a sound like that while
they were doing the promotion up.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
To this fight.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
So what do you think on the phone line of
four or two, five, five, eight to eleven ten is Jeff, Jeff,
thanks for calling and holding man.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I really appreciate it. Yeah, tell me what you think
about all that.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Yeah, hey, thanks for taking my call. Longtime listener, second
time caller, I haven't calls and probably the Kin Pavelka era,
so that kind of dates me a little bit. But
wanted to jump on and talk a little bit about
the fight. I obviously the height leading up to it.
I'm I'm I'm a kind of a big boxing fan,

(33:59):
and I know I watched the three episodes of the
leading up to the fight and the training and and
all that, and and you know Tyson trained really hard. Yeah,
he had the unfortunate, you know, ulcer incident that pushed
that pushed the fight back, but towards the end of

(34:20):
the training and getting right up to the fight, he
actually fought or sparred. I should say, what would be
equivalent to the real fight, the real time. And you know,
those of us that watched that, yeah, he he There's
there was no doubt in my mind that he was
gonna take you know, uh Jake's head off. And there's

(34:46):
there's times when I was watching it that just wasn't
like Mike Tyson. I mean there he left, Tyson had
opportunities to just really lay him out, and he and
he held back. I totally think it wasn't and wasn't scripted.
But I you know, there's some reports out there. The
longer he stayed in, the more money he made, and

(35:09):
which I don't blame him. I mean overall, I think
they said he made twenty five million bucks. But yeah,
I think it was rigged.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
You thought the way that they did it was rigged
because I also heard it was at least twenty million
he got for this thing.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Yeah, hire twenty and then in the final it was
like twenty five million that he got. I don't blame
him for cashing in, but let's call it what it was.
It was an exhibition, you know, and it was it
was not it was a leaddown. I mean it was
before it was, and but he got paid. But there's

(35:44):
some I mean, whether you believe, and stuff is coming
out on social media that I think it was the
first or second round. Jake Paul said something to him about, hey,
you know, take it easy, or along the lines of
let's let's remember what we're in this for. And and
then I I don't know if this. I never saw
Tyson ever bite his gloves In all the years I've

(36:05):
watched him fight, he never bit his gloves.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
And I know, well, yeah that On the broadcast, Roy
Jones Junior was doing the commentary with mar Ronaldo and
Rosie you know Perez uh Marrow is a fight historian
kind of guy. I mean, he's done a lot of
legitimate MMA broadcasting and boxing broadcasting. And he said it
over and over again because Roy Jones basically said he

(36:30):
doesn't remember that either. He thought it was a mouthpiece problem.
But Moro kept saying that he thought that, you know,
this was something that he had seen Mike Tyson do.
And then they and then Ariel Horwani, who was in
the ring after the match, said, you know, asked him
about it. He said, he's got a biting fixation, which
you know, we we we've seen that in play before
with you know, somebody's ear. Yeah, but I mean like

(36:54):
at the same time, you know, like he was going
he was like eating that thing throughout the entire fight.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
It was just a weird thing to watch.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
And then he threw ninety seven total punches across what
it was sixteen minutes of boxing, and he landed less
than one or less than two punches per round almost.
I mean, he was not really throwing anything after the
second round. It just didn't feel like he looked old.

(37:23):
But I'm not discounting what you're saying, Jeff. I just
don't know how a guy like Tyson, who we know
to be the baddest man on the planet, shows up,
does all this training and everything basically just to stand
there in the middle of the ring and try to
avoid getting punched for six rounds. It just if he
was in it like that, I just don't think he
would have been able to keep that to himself, you

(37:45):
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
I think that's why he was biting his gloves. I mean,
Tyson and I are exactly the same age. Now. Am
I in any condition to do a lot of things
that I did back when in my prime? No, But
he trained for this and he's a professional athlete and
going through that that never goes away. I mean, I'm
fifty eight years old just about, and I still in

(38:08):
my head think, okay, I'm twenty eight, which I'm not.
But you know, it is what it is. They got paid,
They had a bunch of people watch it. You know,
it's like you said, it's an hour out of my life.
You know that I won't ever get back. But it
was good to see him in the ring. It was
good to see him move around watching it again, watching

(38:29):
those three episodes and how he tagged those myths, you know,
as sparring. There is no doubt in my mind that
he held back. And I'll leave it at that, and
then I'd love to hear what other people say. But
I appreciate you taking my calls. They love the show.
Welcome to Omaha and happy holidays.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yeah, and Jeff, please call us again sometime, great thoughts.
Really appreciate taking part in our show today.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Take care you as well. I don't know Matt what
do you think about that?

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Well, I didn't see it, so I feel like whatever
I have to say needs to come with that big caveat.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
But yeah, yeah, but like what do you think about
just the idea though, because you were one of many
people that were like, Tyson's gonna kill this guy. Like
we talked about this in like how could Jake Paul
the YouTuber take out the baddest man on the planet.
I've seen him beat people with one punch, like we've
seen it multiple times. This is a guy that rarely
would even get out of the second round with his opponents.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
A lot of the time he was destructive.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
But I said I thought Paul would win if it
was on the level, because you cannot discount a guy
in his physical prime against a fifty eight year old
who's been on the pine for nineteen years. And I
don't like, I just can't imagine a guy like Tyson,
who also socially speaking, isn't the kind of guy that's
known to keep a lot of big secrets. I just
couldn't imagine him agreeing to this, doing all of the work,

(39:49):
all the training, all the promotion, just to agree not
to punch my Jake Paul in the face.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, Like that just seems like.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Something that that wouldn't be something he would agree to,
nor would it would be would it be something I
think even Jake Paul would want. I think Jake Paul
would have wanted a better show than we got. They
wouldn't have gone to the fourteen ounce gloves if they
were not intending to really take on each other and
punch each other hard in the face. And I think
Jake Paul noticed by the third or fourth round that
this guy is not he's not gonna be able to

(40:17):
like he can't hit me because he can't throw punches
because he's old and he's he's not he doesn't have
that anymore, and I don't want to hurt him. So
he also just kind of danced around with him the
rest of the time, and he felt bad about it
because he respects the guy deep down. I think it
really just was a heype machine that we all bought
hook line and sinker, And I think this is going

(40:38):
to be damaging to Jake Paul unless he gets in
there with a big time, legitimate in his prime fighter,
because we're never gonna he's never gonna get us like
this again. There's no way people are going to in
droves that sixty million people are going to watch him
take on another aging legend who hasn't boxed in a while.
I just don't see that happening. After the boring exhibition,

(41:01):
as Jeff put it, that we had to see and
witness on Friday night.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
Yeah, uh, if they if they schedule another fight, I
got some calls coming in. I'm gonna duck out. But
if they schedule another fight, then I'm suspicious. I'll just
leave it at that.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, we'll see. Mike Tyson said he wasn't done yet.
By the way, when Ariel one I said do you
have another one in you? Or is this the end forever?
And he's like, I don't think this is the end.
I don't even know what that means. You barely did
anything in their mic anyway, it's it's four eighteen. If
you want to call, you want to have an opinion
on this, we'd love to hear from you. Four oh
two five five eight eleven ten four h two five
five eight to eleven ten. It's news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 8 (41:39):
Hey, Maurice Sung on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
On the phone line, of four h two, five to five,
eight to eleven ten is Dave? Dave, Welcome to the
show today. What do you think about this?

Speaker 7 (41:51):
Hey, yeah, you're right. The women's fight was fantastic. But
you know, I mean, I'm sixty five years old. I've
been in shape all my life running, and when I
was thirty years old, I could do a thirty five
minute ten k. I still run every day. And I
told my forty year old son, no way, Tyson can
manage it, except if he knocks him out in the

(42:11):
first round, because as you get older, you lose your
VO two max, which is the ability to get rid
of lactic acid in your blood. And he was shot
after the first round.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, he was in concrete after the second round for sure.
I mean he could That's what happens.

Speaker 7 (42:29):
You know, I run an eleven minute mile. Now what
happened to my seven minute mile that I used to
go out and cruising in? You know? You know, And
I'm sixty five, like I said, and he's fifty eight,
you know.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah, but he also hasn't done anything for nineteen years
at a competitive level.

Speaker 7 (42:46):
Yeah, but you know, but they say, well, look, he
works out every day, he gets these muscles and stuff.
It doesn't matter. You don't have the VO two max,
you lose your bow life inside your lungs. That's the
little rosebud pedals that bring in the oxy in and
take out the lack.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Of acids out of scheme.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
After the first, first or second round, same thing with me.
I go play basketball for a few minutes, you know,
and some you know, and you're you're done after a
few minutes.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yeah, I'm hearing you, Dave. That's a good point. Really
appreciate you calling in man. Thanks for listening to us.
All right, right, let's go to John on the phone
line four h two, five, five, eight to eleven ten, John,
what's your take on it?

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Hey, Emory, Dave hit it right on the head. So
I'm going to follow up with I don't know what
the commercial's about, but it's the one with Emmett Smith
and Jerry Rice and Dan Marino sitting on the couch
talking about they can still play, and then they're like,
oh no, I can't. So as far as all the
training videos that they were showing, Mike Tyson, who knows,

(43:44):
he may have done a three to five second verse
and then he may have taken ten minutes to recoup
to film more. And what I would say to anybody
out there that I'm fifty five, I would say to anybody,
if you're in your fifties, go compete with a twenty
seven year old at anything and find out mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Yeah it's And that was my thing too, And it
felt like the reason that it wasn't ugli or in
terms of Jake Paul. First of all, the fourteen ounce gloves,
they they had it in the kind of protections to
make sure that nobody really got hurt here. But if
he really wanted to beat him up, he could have.
It felt like he could have, and he didn't want
to because he respected Mike Tyson and he knew you

(44:26):
could win the fight by just landing some shots on him.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Absolutely he could have, you know, and you don't want to.
You don't want to be little an all time great
by any means. But he had no right being in there.
I hope he doesn't fight again.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
I love the guy.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Everybody wanted to see him do well. But what happened
was pretty much what I thought would happen.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah, yeah, father time, it gets the best of everybody eventually,
even if you know, like we talk about the how
crazy Tom Brady and Lebron are at their advanced age.
They were talking about guys that are like forty or
forty three or forty four. In Brady's situation is about
to turn forty. That's old. We're talking about a fifty
eight year old, Like that's that's an eighteen year gap

(45:07):
from Lebron to Mike Tyson. And yeah, like we marvel
at how amazing Lebron is as an athlete at forty,
we're talking about a fifty eight year old Like that's
a complete new galaxy of age in a gap between
the person he was in the ring with. So I'm
with you, John, I just I think this was a
one off, hopefully not just for Mike but for anybody

(45:29):
with this idea. You know, we shouldn't be calling up
Oscar de la Hoya and seeing if he wants to
get in and start mixing it up with the next
up and coming social media boxer.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Love the show, Thanks Man, Really.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Appreciate you listening for us, John, call again you bet
all right? It is four twenty seven. If you got
thoughts on this, feel free to call in at four, two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten. We'll also step into a couple other conversations.
Got to talk about this Russia Ukraine thing now that
Joe Biden has pretty recklessly told Ukraine to go ahead,
fire away with those long range missiles. We'll also talk
about Nebraska and their unfortunate defeat once again, this time

(46:05):
at the hands of USC in LA And we'll also
reiterate our conversation rehashed conversation we had earlier about MSNBC
specifically and Donald Trump, their relationship in Donald Trump's hopes
for how the media will handle a second term in office.
All of that and more on the way right here
on news Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 8 (46:25):
Em riis songer on news Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
How did sixty five million people at one time want
to watch this thing and think that this was going
to be competitive? How we how do we buy this
so much? Is this really just a product of Jake
Paul and the people around him and including the people
at Netflix, that somehow found a way to market this
to us as if this was going to be a
camp miss sporting event, And what would even be like
a thing that could be comparable to it? In any

(46:54):
other realm of sport, athletics, or even entertainment. In a
lot of ways, year old is running with the fastball anymore,
if you know what I mean. Anyway, phone line is open.
We got Merle on the line of four h two five, five,
eight eleven ten. Merle, thanks for being on the show.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
What's up, Hi, I'm reriny.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
Thanks for the opportunity to come on. I think everybody
that's chimed in and I really enjoyed this. I think
everybody that chimed in is there. I think a lot
of them are right on. I agree with Jeff twenty
minutes ago. But I think we're overlooking the biggest benefit
of the entire fight.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Look at how.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
Many friends and family get brought together in a time
just right after the election. How many people got together
to watch that fight. Sixty five million, one hundred million
that probably wouldn't have gotten together. All the laughing, all
the high fiving, all the cursing. Look look at that
as a benefit.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Well, okay, Merle together, Yeah, and Merle, now that you
mentioned that, there was like no like okay. So Donald
Trump showed up to the UFC fights the next night,
and the white of course who was a guy who
went on the campaign trail with him. He's the guy
who runs and promotes UFC, and Elon was there with
him at the UFC fights and stuff. You can argue

(48:10):
to me that the UFC fights, with his presence being
there and them talking about him and showing him on
camera and stuff, that there was a political element to
the UFC fights. That political element was not present on Friday,
So anybody who might have had political differences, there wasn't
even a moment there where you would have thought about,
you know, political differences with anybody you're in that room with.

(48:32):
It was all about the fight. It was all about
the fun. It was some nostalgia with Mike Tyson being involved.
There was some good fights on earlier in the card.
The Serrano Taylor women's fight was just incredible, you know,
so like it wasn't all bad. Like you said, I
didn't even think about that. Not many events outside of
political debates have even come close besides the Super Bowl,

(48:53):
of reaching the sixty plus million people threshold of people
watching this and this fight did this event did? It
did bring people together to talk about something very innocent
compared to what we've been talking about. For the last
several months or years. It's a great point, Merle. I'm
so happy you called and brought that up.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Absolutely, I mean that's underrated too, right. It is for
entertainment at the end of the day, isn't it. Like
we watch this because we want to be entertained. We're
disappointed that the fight itself didn't entertain us. We didn't
see Mike Tyson knock out this this twenty seven year
old punk, right, we didn't get to see Mike Tyson
get laid out.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
If that was something you were.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Looking forward to seeing for some reason, we didn't, you know,
have a bunch of exchanges or combinations that boxing fans
are going to be like worldwide drooling at Wow, what
a great combination Tyson still has it? Or man, Jake
Paul look at him, he looks like a legit. None
of that happened the sixteen minutes of that fight was

(49:54):
going on. Most of it just was awful. It was boring,
It sucked, But that wasn't what it was all about.
It was about the fact that there was a lot
of money to be made for the people who took part,
but a lot of fun for the people who wanted
to watch it in boxing matches specifically, haven't had that
kind of hype in years and years and years like
here in Oma. Yeah, we want to watch Bud Crawford.
But I mean, there hasn't been like that name guy

(50:17):
that carries the sport. Jake Paul turned from YouTuber into
a fighter that actually is kind of carrying boxing into
kind of the new age. You have to give him
credit for that. I don't want to see a fight
like this again. But man, if he's got another Toronto
Taylor lined up before him, I mean, he has hard
to call it a waste. And then I had a

(50:38):
couple of emails here I wanted to read. We had
Mark who said Tyson is sixty years old and smokes
weed all the time. Plus he's the most overrated fighter
of all time. He was zero and five against legit
championship contenders. Oh well, Mark, that that's some strong words.
First of all, the weed thing, I mean, there's been
a lot of high level athletes that like to like

(51:01):
to blaze up if you will. I'm not so sure
that that's as much of a factor as we'd like
to think it is, at least as far as high
level athletics, him being fifty eight in this case, he
rounded up to sixty. Yeah, I mean, I think that
has a lot more to do with what the performance
was that we saw there, and I don't know about
the overrated thing. It's a pretty hot take considering the

(51:21):
fact that Tyson was considered by most people who are
paying attention to any sports landscape whatsoever in the nineties
as quite literally the baddest man on the planet. This
is a guy who was as famous as anybody or
infamous as anyone in the late eighties and early nineties,
not just in his sport, but in popular culture. He
showed up on WWF television leading up to WrestleMania. He

(51:45):
was involved in a huge wrestling angle in the entertainment
industry with Sean Michaels and Stone Cold Steve Austin that
made a huge impact on popular culture. Of course, we
know the Holy Field situation with the biting of the ear,
we know that jail time. This guy had his own
like he's had sidequests all over the place. Right to me,

(52:06):
it's hard to call a guy that had all that
going overrated, especially with as many knockout wins that he
had that were ended in the within like the first
two or three rounds. There just aren't fighters like that,
no matter how skilled or talented they are. In the
modern era, nobody has been more dangerous in there with
the gloves on than Mike Tyson on a punch for

(52:27):
punch basis. Yes, he lost some high profile fights to
some worthy competition. I don't think that makes him bad
by any means. Muhammad Ali lost some fights too, Sugar
Ray Leonard. You know, you could say pound for pound
was maybe the most fun fighter to watch. It wasn't
like he had some off fights as well. Yeah, but

(52:47):
it says something. His name still carries that weight. Thirty
years after his prime, you know, twenty years since his
last professional fight. His name still means something because the
rest of the boxing world hasn't been able to generate
the kind of In all due respect to Bud Crawford,
the rest of the boxing world has not been able
to generate that name recognition. So when Jake Paul, who's

(53:09):
a famous YouTuber and the millennial and Generation Z and
even younger than that are very familiar with him as
a YouTuber and what he does on social media, as
much as he has turned into a boxer.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
He takes that seriously. He is a good athlete, he's
in great shape, he has a lot of power.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
It would be interesting to me to see, you know,
what the next step is, because I don't think he
lost a ton of respect. But anybody who was of
the older generation that was hoping to see vintage Mike
Tyson in this situation, they didn't have a chance to
see that because he's an older man and they're not
going to be bought into Jake Paul as like a
legitimate fighter.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
They didn't need to.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Like if he would have knocked Tyson out in the
first round or something, he might have won over some
people like, oh, that guy's legit. Or he knocks Tyson
out in the first two rounds, people say, Okay, you
knocked out an old guy. Congratulations. Do you feel better
about yourself? There was a no win situation there in
the way the fight was handled for Jake Paul, except
making a ton of money beforehand in the promotion of it.
And that's one thing we have to keep in mind.

(54:11):
Most I would say seventy percent of the fight game
these days, especially for a guy like Paul, is all
about the promotion of the fight. It wasn't even like
it wasn't even about the actual boxing. It was all
about promoting this fight with the guy that we knew
was a great boxer at one time. And Jake Paul
happens to be this incredibly hateable type character that you know,
knows how to make a buck like he's incredible with

(54:32):
his team and learning how to create that kind of
promotion around something that has no business being promoted like that,
and it worked. They set viewership records on Netflix. They
made tens of millions of dollars each for just standing
in the ring together. It helped elevate the sport of
boxing for everybody who was on the undercart, specifically Katie
Taylor and Amanda Serrano, who were unbelievable in there in

(54:53):
that women's title fight before the Tyson Paul fight. And then,
of course, you know, you have this whole thing of
what's next for him if you he wants to have
some level of reputation as a legitimate fighter, and I
don't know if that's super important to him. He's going
to have to at some point fight a boxer in
his prime, a high profile boxer in his prime. He's
fighting MMA guys who are well past their prime. I

(55:14):
think the average age of his opponents is like their
late thirties or something like that. The couple of the
younger guys he's fought with, the guys that he's had
the most trouble with, including the time that he lost
to a guy who fights Tommy Fury. His brother, Tyson,
is a heavyweight champion, has been bouncing around the heavyweight
championship mix for the last five or six years now.
So I don't know it is what it is on that.

(55:37):
I don't know if i'd call Tyson overrated historically, although
I can understand that maybe anybody who calls him the
greatest of all time probably is miss speaking there, there's
certainly other fighters that have more clean resumes. Either way,
really appreciate people for that conversation, and it's been a
lot of fun to talk about and something innocent like that,

(55:58):
And that's not specifically politically related. Speaking of politics, however,
we do need to talk about what Joe Biden said
about Ukraine fire and off long range missiles towards Russia
and what that could mean for the United States and
the rest of the world. I'll try to touch on
that the best that I can right now when we
come back on news Radio eleven ten kfab. Russia is
continuing to escalate essentially their war efforts over you know,

(56:21):
the last two and a half years, and I want
as far as you know, like the this conversation right
of Russia and Ukraine. And we have been stuck in
this as American voters and trying to understand why our
government is so adamant about sending supplies that are worth

(56:41):
millions and billions of dollars to Ukraine for this fight
when Ukraine isn't even a NATO member or a specific
ally that we have. I hesitate to have too strong
of an opinion on this, because what principles that are
ex existing for a true ally in Israel that we

(57:04):
continuously are saying, we need to have a presence, We
need to help Israel. We need to make sure Israel
has all the tools and capabilities to allow themselves to
defend themselves against the terrorist organizations that are trying to
wipe them off the face of the map. I get that, okay,
I understand talking about it in that perspective. I also
know that if you were to pick between Ukraine and

(57:25):
Russia about who we should or shouldn't be aligned with
based on how our European allies think, and that relationship
with our European allies should mean something. They say, if
Ukraine is going to be taken over by Russia and
we just let it happen, then who else could be?

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Next? Is Poland? Next? Isromania? Next?

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Does Germany or Italy or Hungary or Austria or any
of these other countries? Do they have to fear that
a wildly out of control old man dictator like Vladimir
Putin seems to be on the worldwide front? Should they
be fearful that he'll try to take over their countries next?

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Now I'm not.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Here to play military strategists, because I certainly am not one.
But at what point do we as the American people
have to ask questions of our politicians, the people who
are in charge about the timing of some of this stuff.
When I understand the Biden administration and the Democratic Party
specifically has been very openly willing to support Ukraine and

(58:28):
what they're trying to do to protect themselves against Russia,
while at the same time trying to understand what that
could mean moving forward, knowing a completely new set of
people are going to be running this country starting on
January the twentieth. I mean, heck, in Congress it'll be
before that. So what happens, what's next? How do we
react as the American public to this? I don't want

(58:49):
to jump to conclusions. This certainly has created a firestorm
of people, specifically those who are opposed to the Democratic
Party and general support for Ukraine as a whole. As
much as we have done, yes, we're like fifteenth or
so in terms of GDP, but in terms of actual
dollars of the stuff that we've sent over there, nobody's
come close to the mount that we have given. It

(59:10):
is a ridiculously large amount. So how much is too much?
And is giving Ukraine basically the green light? All right, guys,
go ahead, fire away. When that same message has not
necessarily applied to Israel for whatever reason, we need to
have some consistency in our messaging to those two conflicts.
And on top of that, right, how does this potentially

(59:32):
drag America into something larger with a place like Russia,
which we know could be an incredibly damaging conflict if
that ever were to escalate in that respect, and could
put targets on the backs of all of our European allies.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Is anybody thinking about this?

Speaker 3 (59:48):
We'll see how Ukraine handles this and what the response
of Russia would be, because they obviously aren't happy about
this announcement by Joe Biden as a lame duck president.
Over the next couple of months, we'll keep you pos
on anything that we learned about this. We'll talk Huskers,
we'll talk Donald Trump in his relationship with the American media,
and plenty more in the five o'clock hour coming up
on news radio eleven ten kfab