Ukraine / Russia War Escalates with American Help

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Frosted cool whip. Oh okay, well that's good. That's good
chocolate pecans. I got some of those actually, just recently.
It's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey, you want to know something, Today is World Toilet Day.
I knew it, you know, I just had that feeling
in the air. What do they do before toilets? The
United Nations has a thing called Toilets a Place for Peace.
The idea is safe toilets for All by twenty thirty,
because three point five billion people, apparently, according to the
United Nations, still live without safely managed sanitation, including four

(00:33):
hundred and nineteen million who practice open. No, something's going open, Sessamy.
But that's not what it is.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
No No.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
And for any of you out there says where's my day,
where's my day? Well, you know what else? Today is
International Men's Day.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Get at it. It's a legitimate thing.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's about men's health, and certainly
I think Australia kind of helped push this thing out.
But it's about making sure you've got your the thing
that you're supposed to check when you get of a
certain age. You know what I'm saying, Oh, you're you're
the prostate, got to make sure that you're you're good

(01:17):
on the pros state, right, So please, please please. The
first thing you can do is just check, just check
yourself yourself. No, you get somebody to check you. Actually,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I was like, I don't know if you I don't
know if that's a at home kind of thing. Yeah,
they make kits for that. I don't yeah, yeah, a
professional yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh yeah, no, no thanks, I'm going to pass on that. Okay.
So let's get to the news here. Russia Ukraine. We
talked about this just a little bit yesterday, but Joe
Biden over the weekend said, hey, we have given authorization
to Ukraine to use these long range United States made

(02:00):
missiles that you can fire at Russia. This also came
at the same time as similar announcements, and I guess
permission that was given by Great Britain and France that
they could also use their own missiles as well. Ukraine

(02:23):
in the last eighteen hours or so has utilized these shootings.
Were led to believe is six missiles of the United
States the Army Tactical Missile System weapons and five were
shot down in a sixth was damaged, and Russia says
that nothing big has happened. But this according to Russia

(02:45):
and their government and the way to talk about this,
they say this is an act of war. So basically,
last night Russia's Defense ministry said, Ukraine fired six ballistic
missiles at a facility in Brayonsk, Bryansk. And I don't
speak good Russian. You got a good Russian accident. How
would you say that? I do Bryansk, I don't know,

(03:06):
But how does it spell? I don't know anything. It
was like Brian sk Brian, oh, Brian, yeah, Bryansk. Okay,
sure go with that, and uh. The US missiles had
been used in the attack. And this is, according to
news outlets around the world, the first time Ukraine's used
long range American weapons to strike targets into Russia. Russian

(03:30):
President Vlodimir Lensky says, and I quote, Ukraine has long
range capabilities. Ukraine has long range drones of its own production.
We now have a long Neptune and not just one.
Neptune is the Ukrainian cruise missiles, that's their name. And
now we have ata CMS, which is the American made missiles.

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And we will use all of this, says Zelensky. So
I guess the next question is what happens next? What's
your inclination here? Remember when Israel and Iran had the
little back and forth and we were like, what happens next?
But so kind of waiting on what happens next. It
wasn't something that was an immediate thing. It's kind of

(04:12):
like simmered a bit, maybe cooler heads potentially prevailing on
truly escalating this to like a regional war. If that's
do you get that vibe? Because I think this might
be a little bit different. And the only reason I
think it is a little bit different is because there
are so many other countries that have talked about their
support of Ukraine and Russia says, you know, this is

(04:34):
a we could have a nuclear response to this. Does
he have the kahonas to start a legitimate worldwide war
with nuclear weaponry? Is Vladimir Putin that offended by the
Western world rejecting him and supporting Ukraine in this struggle
that he would do such a thing because the United States,
Great Britain and France has authorized Ukraine to fire weapons

(04:57):
that they have gifted to the Ukrainian government and mil military.
And you have to keep in mind he has this
handshake agreement thing going on with Kim Jong un, who
he himself likes to tell everybody about all the nuclear
weapons he has, wants everybody to remember he's a player
on the national stage. For anybody out there that thinks
that vlad Putin is like not the bad guy in

(05:18):
this he invaded Ukraine. You can have your feelings about
Ukraine or whatever, and about maybe its corruption and how
I'm not here to debate that, But what I'm saying
is the aggressor was Russia, and he literally cozied up
next to Kim Jong un in the last six months.
And there are ten thousand North Korean troops that are
in Russia that are apparently they're ready to go. Now,

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ten thousand's not that much when you think about the
scale of what we're talking about here, But the United
States and other countries see this as an active cooperation
between two different countries, and they say that if that
starts to become like a two to one one assault
essentially onto Ukraine, and Belarus is there too, and Belarus
has nothing to do with this, they're just like h
and so a lot of people on the world stage

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say Belarus is complicit in this entire thing because their
government is more allied with Russia than they are into Ukraine.
That lends itself to Okay, So what's the response potentially
going to be now that Ukraine has been given to
go ahead in the green light to fire off missiles
from the United States and other countries other major players

(06:23):
in NATO. And then what Vladimir Putin keeps talking about
is he all talk or is he actually going to
send some sort of response toward Ukraine? And what would
that mean for Russia as well? Those are the questions
that we have and we're not going to have answers
until something happens here. It's going to take time, but
it still is legitimate warfare in twenty twenty four. And

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if you thought the Ukraine thing was on its way
to being over with, well, Joe Biden wanted to, you know,
in his last couple of months, he wanted to make
sure that it was loud and clear that Ukraine was
going to have a chance to really make it hurt
before he gets out of office. Is that the right
thing to do. I don't know, but he wasn't alone.
You also have to keep the idea of Britain and

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France in mind as well that they did the same
type of authorization to Ukraine in this as well, So
I don't know. The G twenty summit also is happening
in Brazil, and Sweden and Finland have apparently sent out
pamphlets to families saying, hey, in preparation of war, here's
what to do. Why would you be doing that? Like, like,
why are you trying to scare your people? Is all

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of a sudden Sweden and Finland like target zero for
this Ukraine war to like spread to them.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
It seems like quite an overreach by their government and
I don't know. I don't get that if you got
thoughts in any part of this, there's a lot of
different moving pieces to this, and let's open the phones.
Four H two five five eight eleven ten is the number.
Four H two five five eight eleven ten. Would love
to get your feedback. What do you think about this
Ukraine business and how it's escalated over the last couple

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of days. Find us four H two five five eight
eleven ten on news radio will eleven ten KFAB and.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Are you songer on news radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
We have just a variety of different topics in angles
to this, and I guess what I said on the
heels of that last the last segment was more of okay,
so what's the next step with what happens in Ukraine?

(08:28):
And the only thing that really is perturbing me before
we even get to the next developments, basically is that
we have countries like Sweden and Finland who are scaring
their people by sending out pamphlets or booklets that are
basically saying, in the current climate, war is very possible

(08:48):
and we could be involved somehow, and we want to
make sure everybody's prepared for that.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Now.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I don't know, I didn't grow up in the forties.
I didn't grow up in the sixties. I don't you know,
like the wars that happened in the last you know,
three or four decades. And maybe it's European thing, but
I could you imagine the United States in this day
and age basically sending you mailers to warn you of
you know, hey, here's what life could look like if

(09:15):
we enter a war. Now, we know the Scandinavian nations
kind of have their own way of doing things, and
I'm not here to tell them how to live that's
it's not really my thing. But what's the strategy to this?
What does the government of Sweden and Finland gain by
preemptively sending out, hey, prepare for potential nuclear warfare and
sending that stuff out to the citizens of their countries

(09:38):
with I mean, the only new development here is that
there's been some authorization given to the Ukrainian government and
military to fire weapons that were made and sent by
the United States, Great Britain and France, and that Vladimir
Putin insists that that's an active, cooperative war and he
will have a response to that. What's the strategy for

(09:58):
a Sweden or a Finland to seemed to be just
kind of hanging out there up there in Scandinavia and
how they seem to be handling this.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Why would it like, what good would it do for
them just to do this unwarranted I don't.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Well, do they know something we don't? I don't know, but.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Hearing that is pretty chilling.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
It is at the same time, what's the point, right,
But you wouldn't do it unless you really felt like
it was necessary to do You wouldn't think yeah. But
at the same time, why what does a even like
what's the necessary? What's the necessity? Again, I didn't grow
up in the forties there were looney tune cartoons made
about buying war bonds. Right, It's a different time, and
most major conflicts outside of our own revolutionary war and

(10:42):
civil war were not taking place on our continent. I
am very well aware of that. Beyond you know, an
attack like say, for you know, Pearl Harbor and of
course nine to eleven and stuff like that, but that
stuff does not happen in our country, and we don't
have a history of that happening because we are kind
of separated by a couple of giant oceans, which is nice,

(11:04):
but we're also separated by, you know, the fact that
you come and get us. We have shown the capabilities
of being ultra powerful, and you do not defeat the
United States in a war. You know, you can debate that.
You know, maybe we haven't won every war we've been in,
but we certainly didn't lose the wars that we have
taken place in. And I just I couldn't imagine what

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the morale would be of a nation, especially one that
isn't directly involved in this one, like those Scandinavian ones.
Scaring its citizens into the idea of hey, you need
to start preparing as if this thing could actually happen.
Four two, five, five, eight eleven ten is the phone
number and Patrick is on the line. Welcome to the show, Patrick,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 6 (11:43):
Good afternoon.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
You know, i'd say the main purpose here is to
prepare your your population. All about preparation, and it takes
a lot of time and work to get your civilians
civilians workforce ready. If conflict does happen between those two
countries or even a neighboring country, the supply lines start

(12:05):
to degrade, transportation degrades, power systems get targeted and they
can turn out the lights real quick. So yet you
just absolutely have to prepare.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
So Patrick, do you think that's just preemptive? Do you
think they know something we'd don't, or they're just fearful
that they're too close to the action here and they
think they may be within the realm of potential targeting.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
Well, the decision to start using longer range A tackums
missiles is monumental because that means that Ukraine is able
to be supplied. They wouldn't give that permission if they
didn't have a supply of those types of munitions in place,
and for many years while I was in the army,
that's exactly what I did as a multiple launch rocket

(12:49):
and deep tech missile system specialist. And those missiles, with
so many different types of warheads, can be used in
a variety of ways. You can air burst them so
that they drop minds, so that you're denying a certain
population the ability to go through certain areas, and that

(13:10):
really puts the scare into the civilians. You know, civilians
ability to mobilize and transport themselves from place to place.
And then just using that deep attack approach, Ukraine will
start hitting Russias munitions depots, their electrical systems, their transportation hubs,

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their warehouses. And once that starts to happen, civilians get
on the move. They start looking for cover, and these
neighboring countries may see an influx of refugees. You have
to just be ready for that. Most people don't have anything,
they may be armed, and your own civilian population becomes
at risk. You just have to prepare them.

Speaker 8 (13:52):
Yeah, and it's.

Speaker 9 (13:54):
Never going to hurt.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, Okay, I mean that's a good point, Patrick, you know,
especially you know, they're much closer in proximity than obviously
we are, so it'd be interesting to see why they
felt like now is the time to start letting people
know that this is a real thing that could happen.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I do appreciate to call Patrick. Thanks for the information
and thanks for your service as well.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll take
more calls. More calls are coming in four ROH two
five five eight eleven ten. Four H two five five
eight eleven ten. Thoughts on Ukraine. Thoughts on the response
to Ukraine firing six missiles from the United States long
range missiles that as you heard there from Patrick, that
you know, from a military perspective, does change the game
quite a bit. And the United States is not the

(14:33):
only nation that is given this green light essentially to
these longer range missiles. We'll talk more about this coming
up next here on news radio eleven ten KFAB and.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Reson on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
The Ukrainians can use some of these long range weapons
that have been given to them amongst you know, the
billions of dollars in foreign a to help them in
their plight to protect their country from the invading Russians,
and then they fired a few of those things off
in the last twenty four hours in Vladimir Putin and

(15:10):
the Kremlin. They're just kind of like there will be
a response to this, and now it's just a matter
of what happens next. Phone lines are open four two five,
eight to eleven ten. Four h two five five eight
eleven ten. We have Phil on the line. Welcome to
the show.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Phil. What's on your mind on this?

Speaker 6 (15:26):
How are you doing it right?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
I'm good man. What's going on with you?

Speaker 10 (15:30):
Well, England and France wouldn't be doing this if the
United States wouldn't be doing this, I agree, Now, correct
me if I'm wrong. But the Biden administration I think
is like ninety six percent over yeah, four percent of
the Biden administration.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
That's left, Yeah, eight weeks and.

Speaker 10 (15:50):
You know, America decided to go a different direction, I think. Yeah,
And uh, Donald Trump has made it clear that he
wants this thing and negotiated settlements. So why are these
warmongers doing this at this point?

Speaker 6 (16:08):
Job?

Speaker 10 (16:09):
Are they trying to sabitage Donald Trump and his incoming administration?
Are they putting it all at risk?

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Here?

Speaker 10 (16:19):
I mean, you're four percent left what's what's what's well,
you know, I don't understand what's the game plan.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Well, any lane duck in anything is kind of a
dangerous person to you know, like I suppose have in
charge of something, because I mean, what do they have
to lose? Right, And so for Joe Biden in his administration, right,
I think they want to They've already established from the
last couple of years that they're willing to give as
much as they possibly can, you know, funnel through Congress

(16:47):
to Ukraine in terms of resources for this war. I
think this is kind of one of the legacy things
that he wants to be like, hey, we you know,
my administration helped in that and the Ukrainians where the
good guys in it, and we helped protect them and
the rest of Europe from the evil Vladimir Putin. But
other than that, I mean, yeah, we're at risk. And
I don't know if they're trying to set Trump up

(17:08):
for failure as much as they're just trying to look
like they're the heroes that helped Ukraine protect themselves and
stay independent.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
I think this is everything to do with just a
guy who has nothing left in the tank. To lose
in everything that he feels to gain in his legacy.

Speaker 10 (17:25):
Well, this has been a longstanding policy of the United States.
They would never do this with Ukraine with that was
understood with the Soviets. Yeah, Soviets were promised this, this
would would never happen. The Soviets will promised that the
Ukraine would never become part of NATO. Now see, I

(17:46):
don't get this. I mean, are these people crazy? Do
they don't they know that the Russians have hypersonic weapons
and that their nuclear weapons, for example, are like ten
or fifteen times more powerful than ours. What's the end
game here?

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I guess I don't know, and I guess there there
has to be among NATO nations some fear that if
Ukraine goes down to the Russians, that Vladimir Putin wouldn't
stop there. That's the only thing I can think of
is to why the European countries also feel this way.
And Joe Biden wants to play ball with his friends

(18:24):
over there in Europe before he gets out of he's
out of dodge. I guess I'm with you, don't I
don't know what is to gain is to gain here
even being a part of this, except the fact that
you think that potentially your legitimate allies in NATO would
be at risk if lad gets a hold of Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
That's the only thing I can think of, Phil.

Speaker 10 (18:43):
Well, it seems like gets way more to lose than
there is to gain, agreed.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I mean a world war that we are actually legitimately
involved in. Yeah, I mean, like I would consider everybody
just a loser at that point anyway, doesn't even matter
what happens after that.

Speaker 10 (18:59):
So they want to put these put these young males,
draft them that voted for Trumps under thirty.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, I don't even want to think about that.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
I don't get it.

Speaker 10 (19:07):
I mean, males under thirty voted for Trump.

Speaker 11 (19:11):
Yeah, not Paris.

Speaker 10 (19:12):
What do they want to do?

Speaker 11 (19:13):
Send them the war?

Speaker 12 (19:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Well, I'm I'm hopeful Phil, that whatever is going to happen,
we won't quite get to that, and hopefully it takes
long enough that the Trump administration and the rest of
the Republicans will take care of Washington, d C. Before
we get to that point. But time will tell, Phil.
I appreciate the calling your thoughts on this today.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Have a good day you as well.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Let's go to George on the phone line at four
h two five five, eight eleven ten.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Welcome to the show. George, Hey brother.

Speaker 11 (19:38):
You got to remember you.

Speaker 8 (19:39):
At one time Ukraine had nuclear weapons. Under the Clinton administration,
they were guaranteed by the United States and NATO countries
if Russia attacked, they would defend them. Under President Obama,
they were attacked. Yeah, we sent them some We sent
them some blankets to medical kits, no weapons of any kind.
So the NATO talk never came up till Russians attacked

(20:01):
them the first time. Now under Biden they attacked them
the second time. So either our word is absolutely no
good in the world. Yeah, we'll protect you if you're attacked,
We'll send you blankets. Now that isn't moll was said,
that is the one is agreed to. If NATO had
new or excuse me, if Ukraine still had nuclear weapons,
guess what, Russia wouldn't attack them. We're the ones that
made them give them up, So we have responsibility in this.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, well, George, I guess my next thing is if
are you in support?

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I guess of the timing and of the.

Speaker 8 (20:31):
Uh the timing is absolutely horrendous. If he's going to
do this, he should have did it on day one.
He's creating a mess that he's gonna have no control
or no responsibility over by doing what he just did.
But in my opinion, it should have been done on
day one.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
So but the in principle you think that we do
have a duty, along with those European NATO nations to
help Ukraine protect themselves.

Speaker 8 (20:51):
Absolutely, we took their nuclear weapons from them and guaranteed
their safety and did nothing for them. So either our
words means absolutely nothing on the world stage, or we
should have stood up the first time they got attacked
under Obama and we did absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I mean, it's an interesting point.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
And we talked about just week foreign policy in the
Obama administration as a whole, and what we need to
get back to to have stronger foreign policy. And I
don't know if it will be too late.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
If you go down the road a.

Speaker 11 (21:20):
Little bit farther.

Speaker 8 (21:21):
We now have the Chinese and it we have the
North Koreans actually sending troops in there. Yeah, So either
we just throw our hands up and let them take
over the world, or we make a stand. I mean,
we promised people something. They're bombing hospitals, they're bombing schools
and have been for three years, and how they're going
to be mad when they get bombed back. Really that's
kind of rich.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Well, yeah, George and I it is kind of just
really ironic that they find it to be offensive now
that there are other nations that are allowing, you know,
giving them weapons to fire at them, when they were
the ones that started the conflict in the first place.
They were rolled into Ukraine a couple of years ago
to create this whole mess to begin with.

Speaker 8 (22:00):
I hate to say this about a United States president,
but some of them are jackassts. The one we have
now is an absolute idiot. This should have been done
from day one.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
I hear it.

Speaker 8 (22:10):
Hi, bro, have a good one.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Thanks, buddy, really appreciate the thoughts today. We'll take more
calls coming up. STICK say right there, we have multiple
calls and emails that I want to read on this topic.
You can call us at four h two five five
eight eleven ten four h two five five eight eleven ten.
More on the Way on news radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Emery Songer on news radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Speaking specifically about the Ukraine developments, the United States among
a few powerful nations including France and Great Britain who
have given authorization to the Ukrainian military to use their
long range weaponry. And it didn't take long. Last night
after our show went off the air, Ukraine did fire

(22:54):
six long range American made missiles at Russia. They shot
down five and damn much the sixth and say that
nothing on the ground was really affected by this, but
there will be a response, and it has a lot
of people thinking, Okay, we have entered a new stage
of this conflict two and a half years in and
a lot of people, especially in Europe and including us

(23:15):
here in the United States with a lame duck president,
trying to figure out what's next. We're taking your thoughts
at four, two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten and Jeff
is there. Jeff, Welcome to the show today. What's on
your mind?

Speaker 13 (23:25):
Hey?

Speaker 14 (23:26):
Great show today, Marie.

Speaker 15 (23:28):
Thanks, I wanted to.

Speaker 8 (23:30):
Give you a call today.

Speaker 14 (23:32):
And interesting topic for sure, But you know, it wasn't
that long ago that President Biden was it was decided
by a certain amount of people that he was not
the best fit to run again as president. And so
I guess what I'm wondering is is this an opportunity

(23:54):
to you know, the twenty percent min admit, but that
is you know, put that out there, because be is
that really sound enough to run for the second to
second term? Right It seems like there's a ship without
a captain right now, and these are dangerous times for sure.

(24:15):
So I'm just interested to kind of get some feedback
on that. And is there any has it even been
done before? H can of income takeover sooner with certain circumstances.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, well so, yeah, no, And I appreciate the colle Jeff,
thanks'll listen to us. He was kind of going in
and out there with his signal, but I get to
just what he's saying. I don't like the idea of
just replacing him and going through all the rigamarole because
of this specifically, I think if this was going to
be done the twenty fifth Amendment thing, when it was

(24:51):
decided he was not fit to run for reelection, and
they would have in that moment decided he was unfit
to serve president, then maybe Congress could have pushed forward
with trying to enact the twenty fifth Amendment, which could
have removed him from office, and then at that point
led to Kamala Harris getting given the presidency to act

(25:11):
as president in that situation, I don't think that would
have helped things. I mean, I think as awful as
Joe Biden's brain probably looks now and what he's doing,
this was a calculated thing, I'm sure with the other
European leaders, and I don't think it's that surprising it's
happening as the G twenty summit's going on. I don't

(25:32):
think it's that surprising that it's happening when he knows
he's on his way out of office, because he would have lost,
just like Kamala lost. I just I don't think that
having Kamala Harris, who would then become the president in
that situation, I don't know if that would be something
that would make anything any better. I think she would
even be more apt and more aggressive in trying to
have some legacy building for the few weeks that she

(25:54):
would be in charge. And I don't at this point,
I just don't think that that's something that would we
would have a constructive result too. Chris is on our
phone line of four two five, eight eleven ten. Welcome
to the show, Chris, what's on your mind about this
and the.

Speaker 16 (26:08):
Two callers before your last for spot on. I've been
in and out of the military since nineteen eighty five,
Purple heart veteran from oif Oees and they I just
have to stop what they said. The Clintons went ahead
and they can't. They took all the nuclear power from Ukraine.

(26:28):
Spot one, Spot two. Biden could have stopped this war
because Putin gave the notification it was going to happen.
He had one month to go in and stop it.
If Trump would have been in there in office, it
would have been stopped day one. Biden, they called the bluff.
You had General o'miley in there, he didn't do a
darn thing. You had Austin in there, he didn't do

(26:49):
a darn thing. They just think it wasn't going to happen.
Well it happened. Then he got what needs I guess
what needs to happen. Trump needs to get in there.
Tell Russia, Tell Ukraine. All Russia wants is that little
sliverous land in between the two countries. Give it to them.
Just give it to them. Let the war end. Because Obama,

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if you remember, the whole island of Crimea was given
to Ukraine and nothing was ever.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
Said about it.

Speaker 16 (27:19):
Yeah, so Russia just wants that little little border.

Speaker 11 (27:22):
Just give it to them, be done with it.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
The war will in that quick. Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 16 (27:27):
That's all Russia wants, is that sliver of land. Like
I said, I've been in and out of the military.
I know how this all works. Yeah, and that should
have been done well.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Chris.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I appreciate you, thanks for your service, first and foremost,
But second of all, I don't disagree with anything you're saying.
I think the only thing at that point, though, is
is if you just allow them and hey, Russia wants this,
just give it to them without like a true negotiation.
I mean, I couldn't imagine what that would be like
if you know, we were in that situation, we just
had people who you know, we hope, we're hoping would
help us and maybe protect us in that situation. To

(27:59):
be like, hey, you know, so what happens next, I'd like,
you're just letting them take over, you know, like a
couple of what would be states of ours. But at
this stage, after two and a half years, I think
that that conversation would need to have to happen. If
that's the way that it would end for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, Chris appreciation.

Speaker 16 (28:15):
Russia did not want them to have nukes and the
Clinton took them away.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 16 (28:20):
Well, Chrism gave him crimea.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Chris, I appreciate and argue that.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, I appreciate the call. I want to get to
another call here real quick. It's a good point. Alex
is on the line. I want to get to Alex
before I hit the brake. Alex, welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
It's up.

Speaker 11 (28:32):
Yeah, I'll give you a few things real quick and
then you can holl them over. Number one, if you
believe that Joe Biden's running the government, your naive. But
as far as Russia and Ukraine, when the Soviet Union
redid itself, you know, fell a party, really fault just
reconstitutes itself every time. Yeah, But the agreement was made

(28:55):
with Russia. There was not a treaty, but it was
an agreement that they could have their weapons act and
they were their weapons, there were their nuclear weapons. Yeah yeah, right,
And that Ukraine would never join NATO.

Speaker 12 (29:09):
Was the agreement.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Right.

Speaker 11 (29:10):
As as Biden comes into office, he starts pushing NATO enlistment.
Ukraine is corrupt. I mean, first of all, Putin is
an I got.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I got ten seconds, Alex.

Speaker 11 (29:22):
The point is, just make Ukraine Switzerland no weapons at all,
make it a neutral site, and both sides are happy.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
It's a good posture.

Speaker 11 (29:31):
Withdrawals. We withdraw and we just make it a neutral site.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Hey, thanks, Alex. Really appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
And the national resources they have they can still be
profitable as well. We'll talk more about this with more
callers coming up on news radio eleven ten kfab Having
working toilets like we do here in America not a
thing that people have overseas. Not a great thing to
be thinking about. I guess unless you live in San Francisco,
you haven't heard of a toilet anyway. Anyway, by I
mean dooe low low hanging fruit. What you're looking at

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me like I did something wrong.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
No, you didn't do a thing wrong. I'm I'm just
thinking about toilets. You know, I'm taking this time out
of my day today to think about toilets.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
I don't think it was about thinking about toilets, about
the fact that there are some people that don't get
to use toilets.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I think is mostly with the conversation. Well on World
Toilet Day.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Let me just tell you, Emory, I've got a present
for mine later today.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
It's gross. Thanks for telling me. All right. That is
three o eight now the time.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
We'll try to leave that conversation in the dust, flush
that down the drain, and get back to our conversation
about Ukraine and Russia.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
How's that for a segue. That was good?

Speaker 6 (30:32):
That was good.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I don't know anyway. All right.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
So essentially, if you're just joining us and we're taking
calls four h two, five, five, eight eleven ten, Ukraine
is told from the United States, Great Britain in France
that they have the ability to use these long range
missiles that they have been provided as part of the
you know deal that's been going on for two and
a half plus years over there in Ukraine with Russia invading.

(30:58):
And then last night, after we got off the air
our time, Ukraine fired what we are led to believe
are six missiles that are from the United States and
were made in the US, and we're given to Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
They were shot down.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
They one of them wasn't shot down completely, but it
was damaged and didn't hit its target. So now the
Kremlin is saying, okay, this is an active war and
anybody who's complicit in this, which would include certainly the
United States, and the way that this goes like, we're
just going to assume that you're in the war. And
I don't know what that exactly all means in everything,
but I guess that's what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
What does it mean? And where are we on this?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
And it's two months away from an entirely new leadership
group in Washington, DC taking over our country?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
So what does that even mean to?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, we're going to start with Steve on the phone
line of four h two, five, five, eight to eleven ten. Steve,
Welcome to the show today. What do you got thinking
on your brain today?

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Thanks a lot for taking my call.

Speaker 12 (31:55):
I love your guys show.

Speaker 14 (31:56):
Listen, every damn truck driver.

Speaker 8 (31:58):
Thanks.

Speaker 9 (31:59):
My point is real simple.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
If Joe Biden is competent enough to make the decision.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
To launch the go ahead and use them.

Speaker 9 (32:07):
Missiles, is he competent enough to stand trial?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Well that was obviously already confirmed as no.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
He is not so exactly, so how can he make
the decision? It's scary times we live in. I mean,
I think we're on the verge of World War three.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Well, this is definitely.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I think this is a bigger World War three threat
than the Israel Hamas thing is right, right, Yeah. The
only reason I think that is because that I think
would be contained more to a regional base based on
the resources that those those countries have, even if it
is cultural and racial and ethnic and kind of its background,
which is it was awful. This is about land, I mean,

(32:48):
this is this is about land and resources and also
trying to flex power. And to me, like there's a
there's a level of unfortunate you know, developments with this
now that it seemed like Donald Trump is the kind
of person who is going to try to resolve this.
But even before he got to office, right and before
he even had the opportunity, now it's escalated to a

(33:09):
point where they're firing long range American missiles.

Speaker 12 (33:11):
So it's just a.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Scary time we live in, man.

Speaker 9 (33:14):
Yeah, mean, and it really is. I just don't understand
how he's competent enough to make that decision but not.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, I'm with you get away with everything.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, and you cannot competent enough to stand trial, but
yet you can run the country as a whole exactly.

Speaker 12 (33:28):
It makes no sense, right, Well, I appreciate.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
Hey, you guys taking my call.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
You guys have a great day.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
No problem, Steve, No problem, Steve. I want to give
a shout out to bubblehead Brian, who called. He's been
on hold. He was second in line. I was going
to get to him, but we lost Brian. Brian, if
you're out there, I'm sorry it took too long for
me to get to you. Please call back if you
get an opportunity. I would love to talk to you
about this issue.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
While we wait.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Kevin is on the phone line at four h two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten. Welcome to the show, Kevin.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
How you doing.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I'm good man.

Speaker 10 (33:55):
Hey.

Speaker 13 (33:55):
When I was a boy, I had a neighbor that
was exterminated and he used to take me to the
stockyards back in Seoux City to set out traps rats.
And he said, one thing you never do is the
corner a rat. Putin is a rat, and if you

(34:16):
corner him, he's going to strike out. And you don't
know how he's going to strike out. But everything is
on the table. I believe that Biden purposely sabotaged the
possible piece of agreement that Trump and.

Speaker 8 (34:32):
Putin might have in this thing.

Speaker 13 (34:35):
And as far as a caller before who said give
them just a little strip, that little strip has oil
on it. That's why they want.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
It so bad.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Right Well, And like I said, I mean, I'm generally
not going to be in favor of just handing over
land to the aggressor, which is just going to make
aggressors everywhere be like, oh, I can do that, Like
you're going to let me take some stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
If I just act angry, then heck yeah, let me
do that real quick.

Speaker 13 (35:04):
I agree not to hand it over to them, but
to lease it to them, because that's what they want,
is the oil underneath the damn boss region. Yeah yeah,
but stop chilling people for absolutely no reason.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, and we'll see.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
And you mentioned the sabotage of the potential peace deal
before it even had a chance to happen. I still
am optimistic that Trump is going to have a chance
to fix or resolve this. But I want to know
what complicit nature the European NATO countries like Great Britain
and France also had in making this decision, because they
also at the exact same time authorized Ukraine to use

(35:43):
their long range weapons that they'd given them. So it's
not just the US weapons thing. This is not just
US trying to, you know, like mess around in this thing.
It was also great Britain in France. How much of
the skin do they want to have in this game?
And what's their motives? That's what something else I'd be
interested in learning about. Kevin, Thanks for the hall.

Speaker 14 (36:01):
Give thank you.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Let's go to Larry on the phone line of four
two eight eleven ten. Welcome to the show, Larry.

Speaker 9 (36:08):
Yeah, thank you, sir. I agree with you and the
general you spoke with this new administration, Donald Trump is
a Bronx fighter. He knows how to deal with bullies.
And you never get anywhere by appeasing bullies. We've learned
that through history and have to remember that. And then

(36:29):
I think there'll be some things going on in the
background and we won't know about right away.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Sure.

Speaker 9 (36:35):
The first one is freedom of speech. He's going to
reinsert that. That means the City Council of Omaha and
the Douglas Caddy Border Longership, citizens up at a public
meeting that they work for us, the open Meetings access
citizens can speak on each and every item that they

(36:55):
do not let you. And secondly, it would not surprise.

Speaker 12 (37:00):
Me a bit.

Speaker 9 (37:01):
If the Democratic administration and the deep state cook this
thing up with giving the missiles to them now to
make sure we get.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Into it, well that would be unfortunately, but you can't
put it past the government, especially a lame duck government,
to try.

Speaker 8 (37:19):
To do that.

Speaker 12 (37:21):
That's correct.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Thank you, Yeah, thanks, Larry, really appreciate you calling in today.
It's currently three fifteen. If you're interested in being a
part of the conversation, please call us four h two
five five eight eleven ten. Four h two five five
eight eleven ten. We got more calls lined up on deck,
and I got an email I want to read here too.
Maybe multiples is more and more come in, so stay there.
On news radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Henry Songer on news Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Bubblehead Brian, thanks for calling us back today. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
And sure enough, bubblehead Brian probably got back into a
spot where he lost connection and cannot Bubblehead Brian, are
you there?

Speaker 7 (37:57):
Nope?

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Nope, you know, I like so, I'm guessing he's just
in a in a rough spot.

Speaker 8 (38:03):
You know.

Speaker 13 (38:04):
He Oh, there, he is there is, Brian, Sorry about that.

Speaker 15 (38:09):
Ippently don't know my phone I just want to remind
your viewers. Way back in two thousand and eight, under
the globalist George W. Bush dated and took over the
country of Georgia area word was said by the world community,
the condemnation, perhaps, but nothing was done. And then under
Obama they took Crimea. So they've been emboldened by numerous

(38:31):
listmistrations in the United States, so no one should be
surprised when they did it under Biden.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Do you think do you think we can stop like
it'll stop under Trump if he gets in there, they
can slow this thing down.

Speaker 15 (38:44):
They didn't invade anyone under Trump president last time.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
So yeah, yeah, I'm just I'm just yeah, you're in
and out on me, Brian, but I'm picking up what
you're putting down, and I appreciate you calling back in.
Thanks for being a part of our show today. Yeah,
he's he's not wrong. I mean, this isn't the first
time that Russia has shown aggression in the modern era,
especially under Putin. But you know, this is also kind
of just a Russia thing. They're the big, bad bullies

(39:08):
who have the most land in the entire world, and
give me more. And it's more than just land. Obviously
the resources that the land provides. But I don't know
how you would feel. And I know we can make
the debate as to whether or not we should be
helping Ukraine, or how much resources we should be giving
to Ukraine, or what that strategy should look like because

(39:30):
they're not a NATO member or a true ally, or
maybe they have a corrupt government and all that stuff. Sure,
sure of course, but I just know that I wouldn't
like being invaded. That's kind of the case. And point
like if hey, if you're going to roll intoto my
country and try to take my stuff, I'm just not
going to let you have it.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
And you're a bully kind of thing. I don't know.
Marlow Is on the phone line. Marlowe, thanks for the call.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 13 (39:54):
Hello?

Speaker 12 (39:56):
Em?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
But yeah, thanks, yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
It's okay, I'm first time caller.

Speaker 17 (40:03):
I listened every day.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Thanks.

Speaker 17 (40:05):
But I got two words to say about this deal
going on in the Ukraine.

Speaker 12 (40:10):
Okay, Hunter by.

Speaker 18 (40:14):
Look at the deal that Joe Biden made for Hunter,
all the millions of dollars that was paid the Hunter,
and he's just in his week line that he's got
Now he's just trying to pay back.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
I kind of thought that too, marlow I like, why
does Joe Biden care so much about protecting Ukraine? And
there is that kind of just air of that relationship
that existed between Hunter and the Ukrainians and the laptop
and all the secretive, corrupt stuff that we were hearing about.
I don't you cannot rule it out. You can't rule

(40:49):
it out at all. I think it's a good point.
Thanks for calling, man.

Speaker 8 (40:52):
Yeah, I got I got one more thing there, go ahead.

Speaker 17 (40:55):
You got to remember are you are you got a
boy son? I do not every dad wants to do
something to take.

Speaker 8 (41:03):
Care of his son.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
He passed away, and I'm sorry, but.

Speaker 17 (41:15):
I would have done anything to keep him to help him.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Sure I did, right.

Speaker 17 (41:21):
So that's that's my thought, and that's I'm gonna stick
with it.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Hey, And that's a it's a it's an important part
of you know, uh we we can't underestimate that relationship either, Marlowe.
I appreciate you calling in with those thoughts today. Thanks
for listening to us. Okay, Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure
everything that he said there. You know, I can't specifically relate,
but he has at pardon Hunter to this point, and

(41:47):
a lot of people are saying, yeah, he's definitely going
to do that. I don't know if he is or not,
but it does kind of explain a bit of the
Ukraine thing. If Hunter had that kind of relationship with
the Ukrainians, and that it certainly is corrupt and certainly
should not be allowed. But at least it would explain
maybe some of this timing while he's a lame duck
and knows he's on his way out. I don't know,

(42:08):
I'd love more explanations, but of course, notoriously, you kind
of have to keep the military's secrets and their strategies
kind of close to the vest because you don't want
the rest of the world trying to figure it out
and know exactly what's coming next, because that's how you
get got Vincent's on the phone line at four oh two, five, five,
eight to eleven ten.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Welcome to the show, Vincent, what's on your mind?

Speaker 8 (42:27):
Hi?

Speaker 6 (42:28):
Emory? I appreciate you taking the call. I just had
two points to make, and all of your callers are
very much on point in what the points they're making.
I'm fifty four years old. I spent time in the
goal for get a shield in desert storm. My unit
also was in Panama and ended up in Somalia. So

(42:53):
I understand that the fall of war is looming over America.
It always is, But I think we're missing the bigger
picture here. There's a there's other forces behind the presidency
and our system of government that is pushing these events
into play. And until we acknowledge what the foundation of

(43:17):
this country really was built upon, which was the Law
of Moses and the Bible, which is what you have
to do is swear in with the Bible in order
to become the president, we're missing the most important crucial
point of being a president, the office itself and the
powers behind it. When they set the system up, it

(43:38):
was set up in a way that you had to.

Speaker 12 (43:40):
Respect the laws and the ordinances of God in order
to continue to run this republic.

Speaker 6 (43:46):
And until we get back to the Ten Commandments, until
we get back to gold and silver standards with our
monetary system and start actually having a budget and showing
our children and grandchildren this is how you run the world.
This is how you can get out of debt. There
are many ways to come to resolve a conflict in life,

(44:08):
but when you have gone away from what year, what
made you. It's like you grow up one way and
then you go to college and you become stuffing totally different.
Now you don't know what to do, where to go,
You have no guidance, You don't seem to know what
to do. What's the next step to take? Confused and
when the confusion is in the appearance and the children's
you run wives.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Well, just follow up on that.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I mean, how long ago do you think that we
lost that, because I mean, obviously it's had to be
somewhere in between the ratification of the Constitution into now
based on your timeline, when did we lose that?

Speaker 12 (44:40):
We lost our way in nineteen thirty during the Depression,
when we bomb Black.

Speaker 6 (44:48):
Wall Street, we took a chance on becoming a dictator
in our own country. Indians move them out through the
trail of tears. All the Cherokee lost their land and
they split them up, the five tribes and the seminoles

(45:10):
on the Florida past Alabama, Tennessee took off that land.
And if you look at that land right now, it's no.

Speaker 12 (45:16):
Good because the hole is filled with blood dealing with
the world.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
The same slaves that we keep in the basement, locked up.
But yet we're the beacon of.

Speaker 12 (45:27):
The world deliberty.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
We're perpetrating a fraud, and we're walking down a strange
stream that doesn't seem to have a lot of water left,
just a lot of rocks.

Speaker 12 (45:39):
And what that is suggesting is that you have fire
as a warning, but you have water flowing and flooding
our country as a mercy. But God is saying both
at the same time. If you come back home so
that I can help heal you.

Speaker 6 (45:55):
And show the world that you're going to go back
to what got you where you are as a superpower,
or not only will you have fires, but you'll have fleas,
you'll have locusts, you'll have drought. We'll be starving soon.
And we're not recognizing if we.

Speaker 12 (46:11):
Don't correct this issue with these slaves, we don't make
it right in the universe, with these people who built
this country. No matter what your color is or your
political affiliation, no matter what you try to do to
make America heals again, she cannot heal herself. She can
only be healed with medicine. And the medicine is the

(46:33):
same medicine that got us to where we are. In
the first place, the Ten Commandments, the Constitution, the gold
and Silver standard, farm monetary system, and we do right
by the people who built this country. And until the
adults in the room speak up instead of everybody just
running into.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
Their little corners and arguing, we already know what the
debates are going to be about.

Speaker 12 (46:57):
That's why nobody want to watch them. We already know
who's going to be presidents is gonna be billionaires, because
can't nobody afford to be president, let alone themselves. People
who run the country are the same people who ran
the country into the ditch.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
Sure, well, so why do we keep devoting them back
into office.

Speaker 12 (47:14):
We're not adult enough to say, Okay, hey, we don't
know what we're doing. There must be someone who's here.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
There's appreciate your, uh, your thoughts on this, and I
do appreciate. I mean that it's it's a deep conversation
that Vincent is having and I think it has a
lot more to do with a lot of the stuff
that's going on worldwide than we can even like resolve
ourselves anytime in the near future. But I do appreciate

(47:42):
Vincent for your service. Thank you for calling. And uh,
there's an awful lot to unpack there. I think Vincent
needs to to, you know, get into a like a school,
like an institution of higher learning, and do like a
class where he gets to lecture about the history and
in the of the United States and like what the

(48:03):
next step potentially could be of how to heal this country.
And there's some theory into that with what he's got
going on. But there's a lot more to unpack there
than I can in a four hour radio show. There's, yeah,
and that's why I wanted to let him finish as
best I could. Thanks for the call of incident, and
thanks to everybody else for listening to us. We will
continue to take calls on this Ukraine and Russia issue.

(48:26):
If you would like to call us, you can at
four h two five five eight eleven ten four h
two five five eight eleven ten on news radio eleven ten,
Kfab and Maurice Sunger. Yesterday, after we got off the air,
Ukraine fired six of them, five shot down. The sixth
to one was damaged by Russia as it was coming in,
and Russia said, okay, that changes thanks a bit, and
we are going to talk about how that changes things.

(48:46):
And you will know, speaking about the rest of the world.
And I guess we're going to sit here and wait
and see how that works. And it's not great to
think about this, but it's what we're talking about today.
And if you want to call in, you can four
h two five five at eleven ten four oh two
five to five eight eleven ten.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
We got Brian on the line. Welcome Brian. What's on
your mind today?

Speaker 8 (49:07):
Let's see in how many times.

Speaker 6 (49:11):
A question in the actually several.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Questions, Brian.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
I hate to tell you this, Brian, you're in a
bad spot or something. It sounds like, uh, you're cutting
in and out like and it sounds very digital. So
if you can hear me, Brian, try to get to
a better spot, and you know, uh, give us a
call back. We'll take your call while he's working on that,
and we'll get him back on if he calls back

(49:39):
the uh. I got a couple of emails here. Number
one for Matthew said, Putin's bark is worse than his bite.
We can think that, and I'm okay thinking that. I
just happened to also feel like we felt that way
before he rolled into Ukraine two and a half years ago.
I felt like, Okay, this is a lot of posturing.

(50:01):
I didn't personally think he was actually going to do it,
and I think our government didn't think he was actually
going to do it. But he did it, and we're
still fighting this war, you know almost you know, gosh,
February will be three years. So what are we doing here?
What's the next step?

Speaker 1 (50:16):
What do we have to do right?

Speaker 2 (50:18):
I'm not sure what a guy like Putin has up
his sleeve, but what I do know is that I
don't really want to find out if I don't have to.
Adam and this is a good email, tell me what
you think about this. Hey, Amory, you gave your reason
this to why Russia is the bad guy in this war, okay,
And first of all, to reiterate, I said, you can't

(50:39):
tell me that Russia is who is on the right
side of this when they were clearly the aggressors and
then they cozy up to Kim Jong un and Putin
is like making a deal with North Korea of like
a pact, and we all think I'm pretty sure that
Kim Jong un is a very unhinged world leader who
really wants everybody to respect how powerful he is with

(51:00):
his little country over there in Asia, and that he
can nuke people, and he's got all these crazy weapons
and all that stuff. Why would Putin go over there
in cozy up with him if he truly felt like
he was on the right side of things. And if
you think that Putin's on the right side of things,
why would that be? Like, how do you explain that?
That was all I said? But Adam says to me,

(51:22):
that implies their opposition is the good guys? Is Ukraine
the good guys? Historically speaking, they were the most corrupt
country in the world when Trump was president. To think
that Ukraine is the good guys is a huge, giant,
colossal jump that I won't be making with you. For perspective,
we sent enough money and value over to that mecca
of corruption to have built a house for every homeless
person in the USA. We could have built the wall

(51:44):
many many times over. Personally, I don't give one blank
who controls that sliver of land. Most of the people
in that region want to be Russia. Anyway, Well, there's
a lot there. But I guess this is the fundamental
question that I have met. If Russia's the bad guy,
doesn't automatically make Ukraine the good guy or do we
need like is it more complex than a good good

(52:06):
guy bad guy here? I mean, obviously in our government size,
they've at least the last two and a half years
of the government we've had in the United States, they
feel like Ukraine's the good guy. They keep giving them resources.
But I don't know if it's because they want Ukraine
to be okay or to stop the bad guy those
I think those are two different things.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Good bad.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
We could think it in terms of invade, invade, e
an invader.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Ukraine was the country who was invaded. From what I understand,
they are a sovereign nation that was invaded by another
and invasion continues. Yeah, so you know right, yeah, I mean,
if we invaded Canada, who would the rest of the
world be talking to about the bad thing that we did.
It'd be us, right, They wouldn't scold Canada for being

(52:52):
invaded unless you know, they ask for it somehow. So
I pushed back a little bit that it doesn't matter
about the sliver of land.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
War is bad. I think independent.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Countries should have the opportunity to defend themselves and I
don't I'm not going to like discount the conversation that
he's trying to have about the corruption, because that's that's
a part of it, right, and they're not a part
of NATO. But we've had different people on with those
different perspectives of we said we wouldn't get involved over there,
and then the Clinton after the Clinton administration took the

(53:27):
nuclear weapons out of Ukraine, they said we would protect
you if anything ever happened to you, if Russia, you know,
wanted to come get you or whatever. This is the
thing about having a government that we continuously reelect. Different
people in different parties and different generations of people feel
differently about certain things, and we did have I think
it was George who said our word must not mean anything.
If we don't like back up what we say that

(53:49):
we're going to do well. I hate to say this, George,
but the United States, among other nations in this world,
have done that a lot. I've broken their word, have
broken actual written and signed before. I mean, it's happened
a lot. So I don't think it's I don't think
it's a good idea to just trust that, hey, we

(54:11):
said this before. We just have to assume that everybody
still feels this way. I don't know about that, right,
And we can talk about our leader kind of like
the leader itself, whoever's in that positions, as they have
to have the integrity to uphold what the previous leaders
have tried to do there. But that's just not how

(54:32):
it works. You know, we can demonize certain world leaders
or leaders we've had specifically in America.

Speaker 10 (54:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
There have been bad presidents. There have been presidents that
got us into situations that they couldn't get us out of,
and there have been presidents that were able to do
the opposite. They actually did a lot of different things. Well,
all of these people don't necessarily think the same thing.
Harry Truman was the guy who's who greenlit a Hiroshima
and not Asaki, Like, if we're gonna end this war

(55:02):
without losing a bunch more American lives, we just have
to tell Japan that, you know, we really mean business.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
And so we did and then it was over. Okay,
is it sad to do? Sure? Is it a bad
thing to do?

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Sure, it's it's not great, But you know what, Harry
Truman was Harry Truman, and he made the decision he
thought America needed in that moment, Heck, if Ronald Reagan
would have been the president in the forties, would he
have said that. Heck, if Araham Lincoln were the president
in the forties, would he have said that? I don't
think so, like like right. I think we as a
country have to understand that there are ebbs and flows

(55:35):
with not just the way we govern, but our relationship
with people around the world as time passes by, and so, yes,
is Ukraine potentially incredibly corrupt?

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Do we owe it to Ukraine to be there for
them because of what Clinton said twenty five thirty years ago?
I'm not sure do we owe it to Europe to
try to stop Putin if they truly think that he
is a threat moving forward? I mean maybe depends on
how strongly they feel that way and how much of
our own resources we're utilizing there. It's a complex issue

(56:09):
and it's one that, whether we like to or not,
we are going to be involved in because our European
allies feel like there is a legitimate threat that exists there,
and that's something that is why we have to talk
about this now that Ukraine has kind of upped the
ante a little bit.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
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