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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On this show, Matt, you and I don't have to
work on Wednesday either, so we work on Monday and
Tuesday and then have the rest of the week off
plus the weekend. So it's like a five day weekend
for us next week. So those five days plus the
two days we're about to have plus tonight, we work
two days and have seven off over like the next
ten days.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's pretty awesome. Huh.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, that's quite the role of holidays. Lots of good eats,
lots of family time looking forward to it.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Now, see, the only way that we could get that
messed up somehow is if we lost our time continuum somehow,
because we ended up getting too far into the atmosphere
and got into maybe the outer ranges of space, and
then all of a sudden we come back down and
all of a sudden, we've lost eleven days, Like who
knows been known to happen. One person that I know
(00:47):
that has been to space is a guy sitting right
next to me, and this is long overdue. Astro clay himself,
Clayton Anderson, who's a retired NASA astronaut also the president
and CEO of the Strategic Air Command in aerospace muse
joining us in the studio, Sir and true Wanner, and
thanks so much for doing this.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm sorry it took us so long to actually meet
in person. Well that's because of that time continuent.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, if we'd never gone to space, i'd have been
here weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, I will say this. You are, you know, the
Omaha and Nebraska's space man astronaut. Right, I'm seeing here
on your Wikipedia one hundred and sixty six days, twenty
one hours, and ten minutes spent in space.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
How's the first hour look like?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I mean, there's a lot of preparation to get you there,
but what is the emotions and what.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Are the feelings? As you know?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, I'm in space for real right now. This is
everything that I've been working for.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So I was in Atlantis, and I was sitting on
the mid deck and I was in the center seat,
and everything that happens between lift off and getting to
micro gravity happens pretty fast, even though it's eight and
a half minutes and it just flies by.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
See what I did there flies speed.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And so when I got though to the point where
I was focused on everything I had to do there,
all my jobs that I had to make sure happened
in that eight and a half minutes, and there weren't
very many of them because I was just a sack
of potatoes in the mid deck. But when we got
to zero gravity, that's when I heard this hiss. It's
and the engines all shut off. And as soon as
the engine shut off and you stop accelerating, right, you're
(02:22):
in microgravity. And then it was so cool because stuff
started floating by my face. And then I grabbed my helmet.
I took my helmet off, which is step one, and
I just let go and it floated right in front
of my face. Now that is pretty cool, right for
the first time. But then I had to get back
to work. I had to put my gloves in my helmet,
I had to hook them to a lanyard, I had
to put them in a bag. I had to hang
(02:43):
the bag in the front of the mid deck. And
then I had to take my boots off. And yeah,
and so you get wrapped up in actually having to
do work again, and it's really hard until you find
your first break where you can actually take a peek
out the window. You can just float there and envision
and understand where you are now. But then the key
(03:03):
for me was I had one hundred and fifty one
more days of that.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So yeah, So this is always a question I wonder
about a lot of the space work is done on
Earth in the run up. I mean, you read about
it's a fascinating story about the decades long, you know,
journey of America in the world to figure out how
to get to space and explore what's out there in
(03:27):
a bunch of different ways. But it takes a lot
of bravery, especially considering some of what we know about
some of the failed space exploration attempts, for somebody like
yourself to say, hey, this is still something I want
to do. I mean, I watched a Paula thirteen that
was enough for me. Like I was just like, I
don't know, I don't know about the space stuff. Well
for anybody out there right, what were the jobs as
(03:49):
you understood them as you were taking off? And was
there any sort of anxiety about what if something does
go wrong here? And I'm either you know, whether it's
like the Challenger when you're going up something goes catastrophically wrong,
or it's like apaull of thirteen where you're already in
space and something catastrophically goes wrong. What were kind of
your emotions and thoughts is all of this was kind
(04:09):
of happening knowing you still had a job to do well.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
The first thing they trained the scare out of you. Right,
you're pretty well trained, so much so that you don't
think about challenger. You will be able, hopefully to deal
with challenger if that happens, but you don't think about it.
The one thing that made me have anxiety was being
away from my wife and kids for the first time.
And my expectation was five to six months in outer space.
(04:33):
So that period of time away from them is what
brought me anxiety. What would it be like to not
be with my wife? What would it be like to
not see my kids? But the taking the fear out
of you, it's like most kids who ride a bicycle
down the sidewalk today. If I ask them, they say, oh,
I don't have any fear about riding that bicycle. Well,
that's because you trained, and you rode with training wheels
(04:55):
and to the point where you got off of those
and now it's just what you do. And that's very
much what astronaut training is like. The toughest part is
there's so much that they train you about, and they
train you about that for years in advance your time
in space. So I'm not very smart and I forget
a lot. So you have to have notes that you
keep in a little book that you take with you
(05:17):
to space, so you can kind of refer, oh I
remember that, Oh yeah, Emory showed me that back in
that time continuing thing, and then you look it up
and you go okay, or you have the ground to
help you. And that's the other big thing that will
be way different in the future is when we start
traveling to Mars and a message takes twenty minutes just
to go one way. You don't have that real time
(05:37):
ability to call somebody, to phone a friend and to
find out what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
We're speaking with Clay Anderson. He's Omaha's in Nebraska's astronaut.
How many people were up there with you? For the
most part, three of us, two Russian cosmonauts in me.
When I first got there in Atlantis, we had six
other people that came with the Atlantis crew, and then
when I went home, the STS one twenty crew brought
(06:02):
seven people. One of them took my place and I
went home with them, so between three and ten. Okay,
so this is kind of just a revolving situation here.
What's a normal day's worth of work kind of look
like as far as what you were responsible for.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
We would get up about six am, six thirty, we'd
have breakfast, and then I would go exercise for two
and a half hours, and then once I finished exercise,
i'd get cleaned up. That was probably another thirty minutes.
And then you had a basic timeline of your day
that said, Okay, Clay, you're going to fix the toilet,
and then you're going to go take some pictures of this,
and then you're going to do this science experiment. It's
(06:39):
pretty well laid out for you, and there are people
on the ground that plan every day of every two
week period. And so the planning team was a two
week event where they'd put everybody down. So Fyodor had
his jobs, Clay had his jobs, Olig had his jobs.
Theirs could be American or Russian, so could mine. But
they would fill out your two week timeline and you
(07:00):
could modify it as you saw a fit. Like if
your finished something really fast, you could either go on
to the next or you could take some time off
and mess around, take some pictures, look out the window, whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That's pretty awesome stuff. Can you stick with us for
a bit, Absolutely, I'd be happy to. We're gonna have
We're gonna talk more. I have a lot of questions.
I'm sure Matt's got some questions as well. And if
you want to email me, if you've got something on
your mind that you'd like to hear from our astronaut
Klay Anderson here, feel free to email Emory at kfab
dot com, E M. E. R. Y at kfab dot com.
More on the way here on news Radio eleven to
(07:33):
ten KFAB. Oh, Marie, you're kind of left off at
like what you would do on it, like a normal day.
My biggest question, I suppose is when you're up there,
you mentioned communication. How frequently were you able to talk
to your family or is that something that you could
do kind of freely based on the time that you had,
like and how does something like that work? They have
(07:53):
good internet up there.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
They have crappy internet up there, and they had no
internet when I was up there the first time, so
we would have we had a telephone system called the
Internet Protocol phone, and I could just hop on the
computer and I could call up my call log and
hit my wife's home number, and I could dial her
anytime I wanted, assuming we had signals between all the satellites.
(08:17):
So sometimes when the solar panels rotate and they get
in the way of a signal, they would block it
for a while, but typically I could call her whenever
we had an annual or an annual a weekly teleconference
in our house with our kids and my wife. NASA
provided the equipment temporarily for my time and space, and
then they would tell my wife, Hey, Susan, the event
(08:39):
happens at two point fifteen on Sunday this week, and
she would have the kids ready and they only did
it once or twice and they said, hey, Dad, we're
out of here.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
And then we would invite neighbors and friends over and
so I would talk to them and they it was
a video so we could see each other, which is
kind of cool. Yeah, you could do a little little
you know, float the ball, do the sphere of water.
I could brush my hair and my tea, you know,
all those cool things that people do in space.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And Matt, you got to question for Clay.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, I'm wondering when you got out far enough into
space to where you could see the full Earth, do
you remember, like what part of the Earth you could
see first, as far as like continents.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Well, see, we never got that far. We were only
two hundred and fifty miles above the Earth, so we
bay I would estimate, and it's definitely an estimate that
I could see the quarter of the Earth. So if
you looked at a basketball tonight and you marked with
it on a sharpie and put a quarter of it,
that's about what you could see from the space station.
The Moon you could see just like we can see
(09:40):
from Earth. We just weren't looking through the atmosphere like
y'all are. And if you go the further away you go,
you know, the Hubble Space Telescope crew was much higher
than the typical Shuttle mission or the space station's altitude,
so they could see a bit more of the Earth.
And then obviously if you're going to go on to
the Moon, you can turn around and look and and
see the whole thing. But it's it's amazingly huge, right.
(10:03):
That was the first thing that caught me was, holy crap,
it's big.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Right, kind of roses that big well, and it's crazy, right,
Like people talk about being able to see the curvature
of the Earth, right, and that being like kind of
a like a whoa kind of moment. What space travel
about to look like?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You know you have some great experience, but you know
you hear all this something like, yeah, the Space Shuttle missions.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know, we're moving on to like a new thing.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You see SpaceX and you see Bezos with his you know,
space people and trying to do these different experiments but
also make it to where ordinary people have a chance
to for even a few minutes experience what that's like.
What does space look like from maybe a NASA perspective
or maybe even just like a tourist perspective here, Now
(10:49):
that we're starting to get to that technology, well.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I think that we're in a great time space wise
for people your age and younger. They're going to see
a lot of cool things happening in the next ten years.
Elon pushes the envelope, Bezos is pushing the envelope, and
the opportunity for people to go to space is going
to get easier. I don't know that it's going to
get any less expensive. But that's why I hate the
(11:14):
phrase spaces for all. You know, you want it to
be absolutely, but it's not for all because you got
to have a lot of coin to be able to go.
And so as I save up my money to become
a castronaut, That's what I'd like to do next, become
a castronaut of course, and flying space again. But you
know you're looking at going back to the Moon, and
(11:34):
you're looking at establishing some sort of a moon base there,
and then Elon's got amazing plans to go to Mars
and become an interplanetary species.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Wow, good luck. I hope it works.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Do you think that's possible? Oh, I definitely think it's possible.
I think, especially with him driving his train, if you will,
I think it's very possible. I hashtag all the time,
never bet against Elon Musk, and he keeps proven that
he can do what he says he can do. The
issue I have is there'll be a day, one day,
(12:08):
I hope it's a long ways away where he'll you know,
kill somebody and and then you have to look at
what he does next, right, does he.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Well, nobody nobody's got nobody's batt in a thousand on this, right, Yeah,
I mean, like me understands that space travel is incredibly dangerous.
I mean, heck, even you know, submarines, deep sea exploration
is incredibly dangerous. The things that we don't know, we
don't know because it's hard exactly what would you expect
the timeline to be to even just reach Mars in
(12:36):
a way that you know, you can start that kind
of experimentation, because you know, I'm sure we would like
to see that in our lifetime. I'm not so sure
how realistic that would be.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
What do you think I think that he's that with
Elon's technology and his development so far and his rapid
prototyping that he likes to do, I think it's twenty
twenty five is going to be next year, So I
think twenty thirty is a reason time to see if
the ideas that he's floating like his starship, that it
can refuel in orbit, and that one of them can
(13:07):
go drop itself on the Moon and the other one
can head off to Mars. You know, as he goes
toward those ends, if he starts pulling some of that
off between now and twenty thirty, Man, Katie bar the door, right.
It's just that's what makes it so exciting for me.
I'm sitting here at age sixty five, haven't had a
great career as an astronaut, and wishing that I was
(13:29):
back there with all these other old astronauts flying off
into space, right.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I would love to get a shot to go back. Well,
I have more questions. Could he stick around even longer?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I can?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, Usually we don't go more than two segments with
any guess, but you know, it's a Friday. We're having fun,
We're talking about things, and I think people are, you know,
curious about I'd love to explore this a little bit more.
We're sitting here with the astronaut that you know in
love here in Almaha and Nebraska, Clay Anderson. And of
course we'll have to talk about the Strategic Air Command
(14:03):
and Aerospace Museum, which of course he is in charge
of these days. We'll talk about that a little bit
and if there was anything on your mind that you'd
like us to try to, you know, see if he's
interested in talking about you can email me Emory at
kfab dot com, E M. E. R. Y at kfab
dot com and we'll talk more about that coming up
next as well, and we'll have a Friday for later
(14:25):
in the show. It's just gonna be a fun setup
for your pre Thanksgiving weekend, So don't go anywhere. You're
listening to Emorysonger and Matt case here on news Radio
eleven ten kfab
On this show, Matt, you and I don't have to
work on Wednesday either, so we work on Monday and
Tuesday and then have the rest of the week off
plus the weekend. So it's like a five day weekend
for us next week. So those five days plus the
two days we're about to have plus tonight, we work
two days and have seven off over like the next
ten days.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's pretty awesome. Huh.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, that's quite the role of holidays. Lots of good eats,
lots of family time looking forward to it.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Now, see, the only way that we could get that
messed up somehow is if we lost our time continuum somehow,
because we ended up getting too far into the atmosphere
and got into maybe the outer ranges of space, and
then all of a sudden we come back down and
all of a sudden, we've lost eleven days, Like who
knows been known to happen. One person that I know
(00:47):
that has been to space is a guy sitting right
next to me, and this is long overdue. Astro clay himself,
Clayton Anderson, who's a retired NASA astronaut also the president
and CEO of the Strategic Air Command in aerospace muse
joining us in the studio, Sir and true Wanner, and
thanks so much for doing this.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm sorry it took us so long to actually meet
in person. Well that's because of that time continuent.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, if we'd never gone to space, i'd have been
here weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, I will say this. You are, you know, the
Omaha and Nebraska's space man astronaut. Right, I'm seeing here
on your Wikipedia one hundred and sixty six days, twenty
one hours, and ten minutes spent in space.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
How's the first hour look like?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I mean, there's a lot of preparation to get you there,
but what is the emotions and what.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Are the feelings? As you know?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, I'm in space for real right now. This is
everything that I've been working for.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So I was in Atlantis, and I was sitting on
the mid deck and I was in the center seat,
and everything that happens between lift off and getting to
micro gravity happens pretty fast, even though it's eight and
a half minutes and it just flies by.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
See what I did there flies speed.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And so when I got though to the point where
I was focused on everything I had to do there,
all my jobs that I had to make sure happened
in that eight and a half minutes, and there weren't
very many of them because I was just a sack
of potatoes in the mid deck. But when we got
to zero gravity, that's when I heard this hiss. It's
and the engines all shut off. And as soon as
the engine shut off and you stop accelerating, right, you're
(02:22):
in microgravity. And then it was so cool because stuff
started floating by my face. And then I grabbed my helmet.
I took my helmet off, which is step one, and
I just let go and it floated right in front
of my face. Now that is pretty cool, right for
the first time. But then I had to get back
to work. I had to put my gloves in my helmet,
I had to hook them to a lanyard, I had
to put them in a bag. I had to hang
(02:43):
the bag in the front of the mid deck. And
then I had to take my boots off. And yeah,
and so you get wrapped up in actually having to
do work again, and it's really hard until you find
your first break where you can actually take a peek
out the window. You can just float there and envision
and understand where you are now. But then the key
(03:03):
for me was I had one hundred and fifty one
more days of that.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So yeah, So this is always a question I wonder
about a lot of the space work is done on
Earth in the run up. I mean, you read about
it's a fascinating story about the decades long, you know,
journey of America in the world to figure out how
to get to space and explore what's out there in
(03:27):
a bunch of different ways. But it takes a lot
of bravery, especially considering some of what we know about
some of the failed space exploration attempts, for somebody like
yourself to say, hey, this is still something I want
to do. I mean, I watched a Paula thirteen that
was enough for me. Like I was just like, I
don't know, I don't know about the space stuff. Well
for anybody out there right, what were the jobs as
(03:49):
you understood them as you were taking off? And was
there any sort of anxiety about what if something does
go wrong here? And I'm either you know, whether it's
like the Challenger when you're going up something goes catastrophically wrong,
or it's like apaull of thirteen where you're already in
space and something catastrophically goes wrong. What were kind of
your emotions and thoughts is all of this was kind
(04:09):
of happening knowing you still had a job to do well.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
The first thing they trained the scare out of you. Right,
you're pretty well trained, so much so that you don't
think about challenger. You will be able, hopefully to deal
with challenger if that happens, but you don't think about it.
The one thing that made me have anxiety was being
away from my wife and kids for the first time.
And my expectation was five to six months in outer space.
(04:33):
So that period of time away from them is what
brought me anxiety. What would it be like to not
be with my wife? What would it be like to
not see my kids? But the taking the fear out
of you, it's like most kids who ride a bicycle
down the sidewalk today. If I ask them, they say, oh,
I don't have any fear about riding that bicycle. Well,
that's because you trained, and you rode with training wheels
(04:55):
and to the point where you got off of those
and now it's just what you do. And that's very
much what astronaut training is like. The toughest part is
there's so much that they train you about, and they
train you about that for years in advance your time
in space. So I'm not very smart and I forget
a lot. So you have to have notes that you
keep in a little book that you take with you
(05:17):
to space, so you can kind of refer, oh I
remember that, Oh yeah, Emory showed me that back in
that time continuing thing, and then you look it up
and you go okay, or you have the ground to
help you. And that's the other big thing that will
be way different in the future is when we start
traveling to Mars and a message takes twenty minutes just
to go one way. You don't have that real time
(05:37):
ability to call somebody, to phone a friend and to
find out what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
We're speaking with Clay Anderson. He's Omaha's in Nebraska's astronaut.
How many people were up there with you? For the
most part, three of us, two Russian cosmonauts in me.
When I first got there in Atlantis, we had six
other people that came with the Atlantis crew, and then
when I went home, the STS one twenty crew brought
(06:02):
seven people. One of them took my place and I
went home with them, so between three and ten. Okay,
so this is kind of just a revolving situation here.
What's a normal day's worth of work kind of look
like as far as what you were responsible for.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
We would get up about six am, six thirty, we'd
have breakfast, and then I would go exercise for two
and a half hours, and then once I finished exercise,
i'd get cleaned up. That was probably another thirty minutes.
And then you had a basic timeline of your day
that said, Okay, Clay, you're going to fix the toilet,
and then you're going to go take some pictures of this,
and then you're going to do this science experiment. It's
(06:39):
pretty well laid out for you, and there are people
on the ground that plan every day of every two
week period. And so the planning team was a two
week event where they'd put everybody down. So Fyodor had
his jobs, Clay had his jobs, Olig had his jobs.
Theirs could be American or Russian, so could mine. But
they would fill out your two week timeline and you
(07:00):
could modify it as you saw a fit. Like if
your finished something really fast, you could either go on
to the next or you could take some time off
and mess around, take some pictures, look out the window, whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That's pretty awesome stuff. Can you stick with us for
a bit, Absolutely, I'd be happy to. We're gonna have
We're gonna talk more. I have a lot of questions.
I'm sure Matt's got some questions as well. And if
you want to email me, if you've got something on
your mind that you'd like to hear from our astronaut
Klay Anderson here, feel free to email Emory at kfab
dot com, E M. E. R. Y at kfab dot com.
More on the way here on news Radio eleven to
(07:33):
ten KFAB. Oh, Marie, you're kind of left off at
like what you would do on it, like a normal day.
My biggest question, I suppose is when you're up there,
you mentioned communication. How frequently were you able to talk
to your family or is that something that you could
do kind of freely based on the time that you had,
like and how does something like that work? They have
(07:53):
good internet up there.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
They have crappy internet up there, and they had no
internet when I was up there the first time, so
we would have we had a telephone system called the
Internet Protocol phone, and I could just hop on the
computer and I could call up my call log and
hit my wife's home number, and I could dial her
anytime I wanted, assuming we had signals between all the satellites.
(08:17):
So sometimes when the solar panels rotate and they get
in the way of a signal, they would block it
for a while, but typically I could call her whenever
we had an annual or an annual a weekly teleconference
in our house with our kids and my wife. NASA
provided the equipment temporarily for my time and space, and
then they would tell my wife, Hey, Susan, the event
(08:39):
happens at two point fifteen on Sunday this week, and
she would have the kids ready and they only did
it once or twice and they said, hey, Dad, we're
out of here.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
And then we would invite neighbors and friends over and
so I would talk to them and they it was
a video so we could see each other, which is
kind of cool. Yeah, you could do a little little
you know, float the ball, do the sphere of water.
I could brush my hair and my tea, you know,
all those cool things that people do in space.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And Matt, you got to question for Clay.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, I'm wondering when you got out far enough into
space to where you could see the full Earth, do
you remember, like what part of the Earth you could
see first, as far as like continents.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Well, see, we never got that far. We were only
two hundred and fifty miles above the Earth, so we
bay I would estimate, and it's definitely an estimate that
I could see the quarter of the Earth. So if
you looked at a basketball tonight and you marked with
it on a sharpie and put a quarter of it,
that's about what you could see from the space station.
The Moon you could see just like we can see
(09:40):
from Earth. We just weren't looking through the atmosphere like
y'all are. And if you go the further away you go,
you know, the Hubble Space Telescope crew was much higher
than the typical Shuttle mission or the space station's altitude,
so they could see a bit more of the Earth.
And then obviously if you're going to go on to
the Moon, you can turn around and look and and
see the whole thing. But it's it's amazingly huge, right.
(10:03):
That was the first thing that caught me was, holy crap,
it's big.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Right, kind of roses that big well, and it's crazy, right,
Like people talk about being able to see the curvature
of the Earth, right, and that being like kind of
a like a whoa kind of moment. What space travel
about to look like?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You know you have some great experience, but you know
you hear all this something like, yeah, the Space Shuttle missions.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know, we're moving on to like a new thing.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You see SpaceX and you see Bezos with his you know,
space people and trying to do these different experiments but
also make it to where ordinary people have a chance
to for even a few minutes experience what that's like.
What does space look like from maybe a NASA perspective
or maybe even just like a tourist perspective here, Now
(10:49):
that we're starting to get to that technology, well.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I think that we're in a great time space wise
for people your age and younger. They're going to see
a lot of cool things happening in the next ten years.
Elon pushes the envelope, Bezos is pushing the envelope, and
the opportunity for people to go to space is going
to get easier. I don't know that it's going to
get any less expensive. But that's why I hate the
(11:14):
phrase spaces for all. You know, you want it to
be absolutely, but it's not for all because you got
to have a lot of coin to be able to go.
And so as I save up my money to become
a castronaut, That's what I'd like to do next, become
a castronaut of course, and flying space again. But you
know you're looking at going back to the Moon, and
(11:34):
you're looking at establishing some sort of a moon base there,
and then Elon's got amazing plans to go to Mars
and become an interplanetary species.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Wow, good luck. I hope it works.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Do you think that's possible? Oh, I definitely think it's possible.
I think, especially with him driving his train, if you will,
I think it's very possible. I hashtag all the time,
never bet against Elon Musk, and he keeps proven that
he can do what he says he can do. The
issue I have is there'll be a day, one day,
(12:08):
I hope it's a long ways away where he'll you know,
kill somebody and and then you have to look at
what he does next, right, does he.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Well, nobody nobody's got nobody's batt in a thousand on this, right, Yeah,
I mean, like me understands that space travel is incredibly dangerous.
I mean, heck, even you know, submarines, deep sea exploration
is incredibly dangerous. The things that we don't know, we
don't know because it's hard exactly what would you expect
the timeline to be to even just reach Mars in
(12:36):
a way that you know, you can start that kind
of experimentation, because you know, I'm sure we would like
to see that in our lifetime. I'm not so sure
how realistic that would be.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
What do you think I think that he's that with
Elon's technology and his development so far and his rapid
prototyping that he likes to do, I think it's twenty
twenty five is going to be next year, So I
think twenty thirty is a reason time to see if
the ideas that he's floating like his starship, that it
can refuel in orbit, and that one of them can
(13:07):
go drop itself on the Moon and the other one
can head off to Mars. You know, as he goes
toward those ends, if he starts pulling some of that
off between now and twenty thirty, Man, Katie bar the door, right.
It's just that's what makes it so exciting for me.
I'm sitting here at age sixty five, haven't had a
great career as an astronaut, and wishing that I was
(13:29):
back there with all these other old astronauts flying off
into space, right.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I would love to get a shot to go back. Well,
I have more questions. Could he stick around even longer?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I can?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, Usually we don't go more than two segments with
any guess, but you know, it's a Friday. We're having fun,
We're talking about things, and I think people are, you know,
curious about I'd love to explore this a little bit more.
We're sitting here with the astronaut that you know in
love here in Almaha and Nebraska, Clay Anderson. And of
course we'll have to talk about the Strategic Air Command
(14:03):
and Aerospace Museum, which of course he is in charge
of these days. We'll talk about that a little bit
and if there was anything on your mind that you'd
like us to try to, you know, see if he's
interested in talking about you can email me Emory at
kfab dot com, E M. E. R. Y at kfab
dot com and we'll talk more about that coming up
next as well, and we'll have a Friday for later
(14:25):
in the show. It's just gonna be a fun setup
for your pre Thanksgiving weekend, So don't go anywhere. You're
listening to Emorysonger and Matt case here on news Radio
eleven ten kfab
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