Terrorism in NOLA

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
You can call us four two five five eight eleven ten.
Four h two five five eight eleven ten. We have
Gary on our phone line to start the show. Welcome Gary,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Amry, Happy New Year, Happy new you, sir.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
The uh New Orleans was very unfortunate. The worst part
about it was early on that the FBI claimed it
wasn't a terrorist attack. Yeah, yeah, and uh, of course,
you know, all indications were that it was. And of

(00:34):
course then there was the bombing in Las Vegas, yeah,
which was kind of ironic. Also, the spin that some
of the media sources are still putting up stories though,
is the worst part. I heard that CNN announced that

(00:54):
a truck had killed fifteen people of New Orleans, and uh,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
It's it's a sad.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Day when the media can't you know, the trucks don't
kill kill people, much like spoons don't make you fat, right,
And I want.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, I want to be careful as well when we
talk about stuff, because I don't want to just like
come to an assumption. But as soon as we knew
the identity of this person, and as soon as we
knew what some of the things we need to be
accurate with the the information, regardless of whatever spin that
you would like politically to take on this, facts are
fast exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
On a lighter note, uh, your your own new station
has a ridiculous story about the garbage truck that fell
into a stakehold, yeah, downtown and saying that, uh, the
officials are still trying to determine the cause of the accident.

(02:00):
A listen to that. Okay, so it's been on your
news cycle all day, but I think cal is the
cause of the accident. It doesn't take much more investigation,
So have a happy to do hear Emory.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Thanks Gary, thanks for listening to us. I appreciate you calling. Yeah,
if you'd like to call in four two five, five
to eleven ten. Four two, five, five eight to eleven
ten is the number there. Yeah, I don't know how much.
I mean, we know this by now.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
We sit here every single day and whenever any important
thing happens, or any tragic situation or major news event.
The first thing that I need to I think we
just need to talk about is it's always going to

(02:53):
be politicized. Both political parties are going to use anything
in the news to try to further whatever platforms or
agendas that they would like the American public or maybe
even the international public to see things the way that
they see them. You can pretty much take any important
thing and spin it one way or the other.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
You can.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
And because you can do that, I think a lot
of this stuff is just generally a political By a
political I mean, it just doesn't have a political affiliation
to it.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
It doesn't need to.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
And by political affiliation I mean Republican versus Democrat, left
versus right now. Certainly there are political ramifications when you
have somebody who basically declares allegiance to the Islamic State
and then decides to commit a terrorist act by driving
a large pickup truck very fast to mow people down

(03:51):
in a highly trafficked pedestrian area at nighttime in one
of the more more active party cities in America, and
then with the intent to engage in gunfire afterwards, which
is what happened, and then there was an explosive device.

(04:12):
I mean, who's to say how much destruction could have
still been done by this person. The reporting of the
news is this is a forty two year old man.
His name is Sam su den Jabbar. He's killed fifteen
plus people injured dozens more, and he has in some

(04:36):
way been radicalized, and I know, knee jerk reaction is okay.
So who can we blame? Well, he's American born and
raised originally from Texas, and he served in the United
States military. Now they're trying to learn as much as
they can, and they have sent this, you know, message

(04:57):
out to anybody who might have been in touch with
this person.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
They want.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
As much information about this guy as they possibly can.
But we were being told that there was a solid
chance that this was not an act which was done alone.
Now there is evidence, according to Liz Merle, who is
the Attorney General of Louisiana, so there is evidence that

(05:26):
there were accomplices who helped to coordinate this particular attack.
But however, earlier this afternoon they did come back and
say that we're not sure that there actually are any
other suspects that were involved in this attack. So could
there have been more? Could there have been more things

(05:48):
going on there? Could there have been bigger pieces to
the puzzle. I guess the bigger question is, you know,
how direct was isis the Islamic State involved? Was this
a man who decided that he wanted to do something.
His life was not the way that he wanted to.

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He had two laptops they think that they believe belonged
to the suspect, and they say they found guns in
the vehicle and two improvised explosive devices as well. And yeah,
who's to say what his end game was going to be.

(06:32):
It was pretty clear that he was going to do
what it took to die there at the hands of
police or his own doing. Now, his brother is a
twenty four year old named Abduor Jabbar, and he spoke
to The New York Times, and he said they were
raised Christian growing up, but Sam sue Din obviously had
converted to Islam earlier in life. He said, what he

(06:56):
did not represent Islam. This is more some type of
radicalization and not religion, according to his brother. Now, a
neighbor who has remained anonymous, said that they saw Sam
sued Den Jabbar loading up the truck that he eventually
was going to drive through the French Quarter of New Orleans.

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They saw him loading it up in Houston the morning
before this attack took place. He said he spoke with Jabbar,
and Jabbar said he had gotten a job and was
moving to Louisiana, and Jabbar explained that it was another
job in it. So there you go, that was the

(07:43):
excuse that he had on his way there. Now, what
personal issues did this guy have? Well, he'd been married
and divorced twice. He had two daughters, ages fifteen and
twenty with his first wife, and according to his first
wife's new husband, he said that Jabbar had been acting

(08:05):
very erradically in recent months after converting to Islam, and
they had stopped giving him access to his daughters. So
another something to keep in mind here, is this just
one too many things happened to this guy and he
decided he was going to take himself out and bring
people with him. These are the things that we're going

(08:27):
to try to figure out and how involved maybe a
network potentially is or is this just a guy who
lost his mind. If you have thoughts on this, I'd
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Speaker 3 (08:46):
And Marie Soul on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Pretty crazy stuff here. Now there is a maybe somewhat
related situation. Now you have a US Army veteran who
is connected and is the suspect of the truck attack
in New Orleans. But there is a pretty strange maybe

(09:16):
coincidence or maybe related. They're trying to figure it out.
But it's the Tesla cyber truck explosion that took place
just outside of the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas. And
we are getting more and more information about this particular person. Now,
this is a person who's an active due to US

(09:38):
Army green beret who's also served in the tenth Special
Forces Group, and it's spent most of his time at
Fort Carson, Colorado and in Germany. According to police, his
name is Matthew Libelsberger, and authorities believe that he had
a self inflicted gunshot wound and then the explosion of

(10:04):
the car immediately, you know, obviously would have ended him
if he was not dead at that point either. But
Elon Musk has been very active on social media trying
to talk about, you know, what the cyber truck's involvement
of this would be, and that the cyber truck and

(10:25):
the strength of the cars actually was able to save
anybody who may have been outside of the vehicle.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
At the time.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
And this again, we aren't one hundred percent sure about
anything related to the two Now. What we do know
is that we don't have any reason to believe that
they knew each other. They don't have a military history
that's specifically linked either to make them feel like this
is related. Both of them were at Fort Liberty or

(10:57):
Fort Bragg as most of us would know it by
but they were there at the same time. And as
much as there's you know, all this chatter about, you know,
all the different types of threats that we could have
to create issues of terrorism, I think it's even more

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disconcerting in our country and in our current status that
we have two people who are lifelong Americans who decide
to do these things. One of them at least was
radicalized by ISIS and the other we're still trying to

(11:43):
figure out what the heck that was all about.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
We're really hoping, one day at a time we learn
more and more information about the stuff that is happening here.
But I cannot help but to go back to my
original point and to think about this stuff. We have
too much time in between election day and when the

(12:10):
people who win the election take office.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
It's just too much time.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
And I can't help but think that there is a
level of instability in the United States between the first
Tuesday and November and when Congress gets sworn in at
the very beginning of January, and then even a few
weeks later when the president and the executive branch start
getting installed into office after they get sworn in as well.

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And then even though we know most presidential terms begin
with a bunch of day one acts that these people
want to try to push through, there is still going
to be a period of time of adjustment of getting
set up into to the executive branch in the right

(13:02):
way and kind of getting forward with whatever plan, platforms,
agendas that these politicians and their staffs want to try
to achieve. Now, I get it, I get it. Totally
understand we need that much time for a variety of reasons. Recounts,

(13:24):
challenges to the results, all that stuff. I totally get it.
Line up the cabinet for confirmation, I totally understand. But
I don't know if anybody out there has noticed a
little bit more frequently this time around that there is
seemingly multiple shenanigans, a lot more strange things that are happening.

(13:49):
And our president, while he's saying things, coming out with statements,
there's been no strength. Really over the last four years,
there's been no strength, but especially in this situation, doesn't
really feel like there's anyone leading this country for now.
Everything that Congress is attempting to do is being done
with the idea of what the next Congress is going
to try to achieve, and the current executive branch is like,

(14:13):
we're not setting up anything for success for the next
people because we don't want to see them do well.
Don't believe politicians when they talk about wanting to, you know,
be helpful for America as a whole. No, I think
most of them when they get there, and this is
a generalization, mostly of those who are running for you know,
public office at a high level, and they are incredibly

(14:37):
partisan in their politics. I think most of the Midwestern
people that I've met are cut from a different cloth,
and they really do want to improve where they live
and where they're from. But when they get to Washington,
d C. And you got these big wigs from California
and New York and Florida and all these other places,
and they want to see their team do well. They

(14:59):
want their team to have the advantage, and they would
rather the other side looks stupid when they're in charge,
instead of helping cooperate to make America the best it
possibly can be. And that is the crux of my
biggest fears with the federal government is that I don't

(15:22):
know if we can even trust that.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
All of those people.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I mean, it's a lot of people, you know, I'm
talking like five hundred and thirty eight people. There's a
lot of people there, but many of them just want
to be elected. They want to have that job. And
when you're in the legislative branch, there's nothing that tells
you you're not going to be there. If you keep
winning elections, you're going to be there. And there are
a lot of different ways so that you can continue

(15:47):
to win elections. All right, now, you throw in, hey,
the Democrats and the Republicans, they don't want to see
each other succeed. That's the way that they like to
win elections is they like to see the other side
flub up.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Well.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
That has created this weird lame duck situation where you
have a very weak Democratic president and his staff who
seemingly has been sitting on their hands for the better
part of the last two months. I mean, you could
say that he's really been absent for longer than that,
since they basically told him straight up you shouldn't run
for reelection and he got out of the way. He

(16:22):
hasn't really been that visible at all. And then after
the Republicans won the control of the Senate, maintained control
of the House, won the presidency, really haven't seen a
whole lot of him hearing all these other things of
the escalation of things in Russia with Ukraine and the
stuff that's still happening in the Middle East, trying to
get to cease fire agreements and try to move forward

(16:44):
from that. No, no, you have all the illegal immigration
issues that still are going to persist until there is
some understanding of how the Trump administration is going to
be able to handle deportations and the remain in Mexico
Act and maybe building a physical barrier like the wall,
trying to understand when that's going to happen, how it's
going to happen. But nothing can be done until at

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least the twentieth of January, and in this time of instability,
you're not just seeing stuff happen around the world, and
that strange, weird vibe of things when you see the
stories about drones or anything involving the southern border. Really
nobody knows who should be in charge or what decisions
should be made because Congress doesn't want to allow the

(17:28):
current people that are about to leave office to make
any decisions. They want to leave that to the people
that are coming in, especially in the Senate. Well, those
people weren't even sworn in yet. And then the same
thing can be said for the people who are leaving office.
They don't want to leave it in great shape for
the people who are coming in. They want them to
have a slow start, maybe get their panties in a

(17:52):
bunch over a few different things, leave some of the
promises on the table that they originally felt like they
were going to be able to achieve, and then be
able to run again against them on that in the
midterms and in the next general election for the presidency
in four years. It's a sad state of affairs, and
it just opens up America to having stupid stuff like

(18:12):
this happen, where we have some lunatic, even if he's
American born even if he served in our military, driving
a giant pickup truck to try to kill as many
people as possible, injure as many people as possible. Another guy,
another lunatic, renting a Tesla cyber truck, loading it up

(18:32):
with explosives, parking it outside of a Trump hotel, killing
himself with a shot with a shot from a gun,
and then blowing up the vehicle, hoping to create as
much damage and chaos as possible. Real things that are
happening in our country.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Somehow.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Now, we'll figure out if this stuff is connected and
if there are any direct motives that we can learn about,
and we will report that when we get them. But
as of right now, it's just a sad state that
here in as one of the most civilized countries in
the world, even if we are an eclectic population. I
think it's incredibly important for us to understand that we

(19:11):
can do better. There's no reason for us to have
to live like this in fear that there are enough
crazy people out there that they just want to create
this kind of havoc for us. If you have thoughts
on this, I'd love to hear from you. Four oh two, five, five,
eight eleven ten is the number. Four oh two five
five eight eleven ten, News Radio eleven ten, Kfab.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Emery Sunger on news Radio eleven ten, Kfab.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well, we're talking about those things with you. You can
call in at four oh two five five eight eleven ten.
Four oh two five five eight eleven ten. Mike is
on our phone line. Mike, welcome to the show. What
are you thinking about?

Speaker 7 (19:47):
Oh, good afternoon, Emory. I got a question and a
point to make, and I can't hang on a lot
a long time. I got an appointment. But did we
do experience that America just experienced their first suicide bomber
with the cyber truck driver? I mean it doesn't he
didn't have a suicide best strapped on like what you

(20:10):
think of and maybe in in Israel or something. But yeah,
and then the point, oh, other point I wanted to
make was with a cyber truck, there is a potential
that that vehicle was driven there remote you know, with

(20:30):
remote control or you know, and we'll probably we'll never know.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
But so well, yeah, that's it's a it's a good
that's a good point too, you know, because I had
an email from Arnie who also asked, you know, when
did the guy shoot himself? Because that's what the reporting is,
that he they found a pistol that he used for
a self inflicted gunshot wound. But when did that happen?
Is there proof that that happened while he was parked outside?

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Or did this vehicle autonomously like was it on it
way to this location? In was going there anyway? And
can you know Elon and Tesla, you know, figure out
exactly what the like the programming would have done, because
I think that's important to find out, Mike. I think
that's something we need to have answered the best that
we can if we're going to make sure that this

(21:18):
happened by itself, right, Like, there's too many other crazy
things that are happening out there. Appreciate the call, Mike,
thanks for listening.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
You're welcome by.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
So, just to.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Reiterate his first point, did America see his first its
first suicide bomber?

Speaker 3 (21:37):
I don't know if that's what I would call it.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
I don't know what the difference is between that guy
doing what he did and some of the other mass
casualty scenarios that we have seen, oh, you know, over
a long time, and that includes you know, these people
that like the New Orleans who quite literally was going

(22:03):
to do everything that he could to be ended. At
that point, in trying to unpack and understand why these
people are doing this, it makes it a lot easier
to understand the destruction that they're willing to create. If
they're not planning on suffering any of the consequences, they

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already know that they want to be out of there.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
They they are, they're done, They're they're ready to move on.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
And that's just the unfortunate reality of some of these
most heinous crimes that we see. These people want to
commit them knowing that they also want to in their
own life as well.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
And that's just we're not gonna get a lot of answers.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
We're not gonna get a lot of specific answers as
long as those people aren't around.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Mark's on our phone line of four O two five five,
eight eleven ten, Mark, welcome to the show today.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (22:58):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Very Chris, miss Happy New Year holidays? Thank you. Hey.
I think you're hitting it right on the head right now,
that this is crazy people doing it that's probably not
politically correct, but mentally ill people are killing people. And
if this country had a good healthcare system for everyone

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that treated mental illness like it should be treated, like
my mom rest her soul registered nurse, she said, mental
illness is no different than breaking an arm, she said,
is it's a different part of your body that hurts
and that's sick, and that needs fixing by the right
kind of doctor. And sadly we do not have that

(23:49):
for many many people. Our jails and prisons are where
we house some of the worst mentally ill people in
this country, and homeless people are many of them are
mentally ill. Not all of them, of course, but yeah,

(24:10):
there's a lot of mentally ill people. I see them
every time I go downtown and take care of my
bees near a church where they hang out. And I
think we need universal health care that takes care of
everybody in this country at a lower cost. Yeah, and
in a better way. If every other industrialized country, our

(24:34):
allies in this world, I think are proving that it works.
Universal health care work.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, Mark, before we get too like deep into that discussion,
I don't disagree that we need to do better for
the people who are suffering mentally from different things, and
what we do know is that so for a lot
of these people, you know, we can go back to
Luigi Mangioni as well, it's like a moment in their
life that just kind of either puts them over the edge,

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or they're introduced to some radical thought process or idea,
or when you look at even a lot of younger
people that commit some of the school shootings that we see,
these are people that you know, are having a hard
time and they don't feel like they fit in or
they don't have people out there that are advocating for them.
There's got to be something else that we can do,
because it definitely feels like we are most of these

(25:24):
types of situations that are done premeditated from these types
of people. These people are mentally deranged in some way,
and we have to do better to try to give
them the help that they need. But also there's a
chance that they're not looking for help. Mark and I
wonder what we can do to try to as a
society be able to help detect maybe some people that

(25:46):
are having a more difficult time and being able to
just go out of our way to say, hey, you know,
this person might need checked in on every once in
a while and how much of that can we do
or how much of that is just a violation of
the people's rights who don't feel like they need that
kind of help, right, I don't know. That's It's an
interesting conversation for sure.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Mark.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I appreciate you bringing it up today.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, you're you're making really good points about people that
you know, do they want help or and they or
they don't want help and those that do. And I
think most people that are mentally ill do want help,
they just can't they can't find it. You know, there
aren't enough social workers, There aren't enough mental health professionals

(26:32):
to treat everybody that has mental health issues.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I don't disagree, Mark, But I also know people that
just outright refuse to see a therapist. I mean, like
I wanted to see a therapist when when I was
having some you know issues, when I was dealing with
my move and everything, just to kind of like see,
you know, why I was thinking certain things, or why
I had certain thoughts or things like that, or ways
to help keep myself more positive during all the change

(27:00):
in my life. And I was able to, you know,
it helps that I have a good company that has
a program that I can find a therapist. But you know,
I was able to find one because I was looking
for one. But I know people that have had different
struggles and they just outright refuse to try to look
for somebody like that that can help them. And I
just don't know at what point can we you know,

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I don't know how much handholding we can do for
people like this forty two year old guy that drove
a truck through New Orleans. What a therapist or some
mental health you know, you know, aid would that have
prevented this from happening. Or after his second divorce, like
that was the end of it for him? Or when
he was introduced to the Islamic state and was radicalized

(27:42):
by something somewhere by somebody, was that the end of
it for him? You know, I don't know what lines
we can or cannot cross with this situation. But if
they're not looking for help, it's I think it's difficult
for us to just assume that we can find enough
social workers or people who can help with the mental

(28:02):
health of these people to help them if they're not
looking for that help mark, I need to hit a
break mark. I do appreciate you for being a part
of the show today. Thanks for calling in. We'll take
some more calls coming up here momentarily. Good conversation. Want
to keep it going. Call us at four O two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten on news Radio eleven ten KFAB and Ray
Songer on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Love.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Thank you for having me and I enjoy your show.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Thanks.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of
these type of attacks. I figure are going to become
a little bit more common, and I think we need
to kind of fleece them, you know, as far as
if we see something wacky on a website or you know,
on somebody's Facebook page, and whether it's high.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
School or yeah, yeah, take it serious.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
New Orleans. You know, people just need to become more
active look at that. Hopefully we have the law enforcement
yeah by that time to be able to back it up.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that makes sense, Glenn.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I think we just we need to be very proactive
if we see something, say something. I think we're past
the point of just oh, they don't mean that. Yeah,
are we sure they don't mean that? They were able
to pretty quickly trace this guy back to some social
media that you know, showed that he proclaimed allegiance to ISIS,
So you know that, right there could have been a
red flag that hey, this guy needs to be kind

(29:32):
of monitored for for different things and what is he
about to do, and then maybe we could have stopped
that from happening. Thanks for calling, Glenn, really appreciate you listening.
Let's go to Jim on our phone line four two, five, five,
eight eleven ten. Welcome Jim. What's on your mind today?

Speaker 6 (29:45):
Hey, Emory, second day of the new year. Me and
you got three hundred and sixty three days to work
with after today. Hey, you at the bottom of the
hour was talking about the you're you're a little more.
You were trying to let nobody know how concerned you
were about the idea of an individual in the White
House from November fifth through January twentieth, that we're in

(30:09):
the middle of and that's too long of a period
to switch over to a new president. I find it
interesting that the kind of government that we have here
in the United States is the people have the choice
of who they elect in a legislative branch and the
executive branch, and the reflection of the people in our

(30:32):
country the gentleman in the White House is a reflection
of us, the people me. And You've had many conversations
already this last year that we went by, and I
say it over and over and over and again, and
you know, I know where the phrase is at, and
I know it doesn't come from a senator running for

(30:52):
the Senate or anybody running for the House representatives. But
I tell I talk to you about self government representation.
We govern ourselves, and if we're not doing such a
good job of governing ourselves. Every four years, we picked
an individual to be in the White House, to be
the executive manager of our country, and he's got certain powers,

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and there's balance of powers between all three branches, and
there's a reason for it. And so maybe your concerns
wouldn't be so bad if for every four years we
actually picked an individual that will actually be able to
do the job. And oh, by the way, if we
look at our constitution, the twenty fifth Amendment says very clearly,

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if we have an issue with somebody who's not mentally there,
it's up to the vice president plus the cabinet members
to determine whether or not he should be pushed aside
and we wouldn't even know. I mean, how many times
we talk about the twenty fifth Amendment. Yeah, and you know,
I'm talking to you about all different things that I
could point out in the Constitution. Heck, I could talk

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to you about the seventeenth Amendment to where to our
senators ain't our responsibility the two senators from each state,
there is a legislative's responsibility. Why don't they take that responsibility?
They can actually practice federalism. But I'm just wondering, does
how many of us know what federalism is?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Right, Jim, No, I'm hearing everything that you're saying. I
think that there are different things that people find to
be more important to them in this discussion, and you
would there's gonna be I don't know, seventy five million
people that are gonna say that they feel like they
get the election right most of the time of who's
going to you know, actually do the job well as

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president of the United States. But I think when it
comes to the transition of power, I just it's a
little disconcerting and it feels unstable to me that you
have such a You can say that it's a healthy
process to transition from one president to the other, but
especially this time around, it feels very clunky. It feels

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like the president is absent and it's allowing this kind
of thing around the world and not just in our
country to happen without us really having much of a
presence at all.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
Okay, I'm just gonna say, if I can say one
last thing, I'm gonna let you go because of what
you just said. Like you said, the transition is, it's
just it's it's hard to go through. Is basically what
you were trying to say. Reason why it's hard to
go through through because right now we're going through a
period obviously that this is one party to another party.

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I've already had conversations with you about the party system.
That is why you're having the problem. You yourself say
you don't like the party system. I've heard you in
the past say it many times.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
I do not you do that, right, correct?

Speaker 6 (33:42):
Okay, our first president warned you about the party See.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
He sure did multiple times.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
He Well, either we listened to those wise men that
gave us what we got, or we destroyed what they'
giving us.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
It's a good point, Jim. Now, I appreciate you and
your passion for the subject. Thanks so much for calling
us today.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Thank you, Emory.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, and I don't disagree with any of that. I
think when you start cheering for each other's teams, you
start losing the plot of what the team actually was
supposed to be, and that was America all along. We
will see if you know, we can find a correction
in there somewhere, but I wouldn't count on it. We've
been warring between political factions in this country since George

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Washington left office, and go back to John Adams and
Thomas Jefferson and their political rivalry. AnyWho, we'll go into
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