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January 14, 2025 49 mins
Break Out the Propane: Hegseth Grilled on Capital Hill
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How do you think you would respond in that situation
where you absolutely, under no circumstance, know like there's not
going to be a bigger day for you ever than
the day you're about to have, Like your performance in
this moment today changes the entire complexion of your entire life,
for good or for bad.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well, I'd get on the old phone, I'd call the
powers to be and I'd let them know I know
I got a stern case a gout. I can't make
it today. I should probably just lay down and put
my foot up and watch some soap operas or whatever
people with gout do.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Mmm.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I feel like the gout in soap opera vin diagram
is just one big circle, you know what I mean?
That would surprise me.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
But I don't have a lot of I don't have
a lot of experience with either of those things.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I tell them I I got gout in my left foot,
tennis elbow and my right elpo you know what else
can we do here?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Tennis elbow because you played tennis, because it feels like
that probably would have been hard to do with gout.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Right, really paint a scene of unimaginable tragedy of illnesses.
Maybe I'm just like calling sick halatosis. I gotta fellas,
I can't show up today. I got I got a
stiff case of halatoasis.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
We all got halatosis, my guy, I wake up every
day and I'm just like, there's no way anyone's breath
smells worse than mine. Every single morning. I'm just like,
this is foul. Yeah, Like it smells anywhere as bad
as it tastes. Do you think anyone's ever called in
sick because of that? Like, look, fellas, I'd love to
come in today, but my breath sinks.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I got it. I got myself a real bad case
of halatosis. I don't think so. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
The reason being the advent to toothpaste and mouthwash, along
with you know food. If you eat the right amount
of food or have even like a stick of chewing gum,
it can go a long way to helping that out.
And the guys before all that stuff really was a thing,
they were walking around with scurvy, which is like in
ginger vitis, like regular oh.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Ginger vitis, scurvy. Let's add that to the list. So
it's got gout in my left foot, tennis elbow and
my right elbow halatosis, ginger vitis, a little bit of
scurvy too.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
If you can imagine, what you're saying is you don't
want any part of it. Yeah, the pressure, the pressure
would be too high on a single a single performance, like, hey,
for these three hours, you better have like the best
three hours of your life, because that's what we're talking
about here. Realistically, though, you know, I would probably just
show up and show out, you know, and do the

(02:26):
best you can, do the best I can und those circumstances.
Might sweat a little bit, might have to put on
a little bit more persprit before I take the stage. Oh, definitely, definitely.
The reason I bring this up is because you know,
I was watching him, and we'll talk about what he's saying,
what people are saying as well. And if you're wondering,
it seems like everybody who's an ally of the Republican Party,

(02:48):
end of Haig Seth himself, they feel like he was
great today. So there were protesters, There's all sorts of
stuff that was going on there. This is as polarizing
of a confirmation as I can remember. I mean I
can't remember like confirmation hearing for a cabinet member being
like this before can you think of anything like I
couldn't even name you eighty percent of the cabinet members

(03:10):
for Joe Biden, and I just don't think that there
was much like conversation about it, you know, and the
help of the Democrats had all the control in twenty
twenty one when they took office. I couldn't tell you
about Donald Trump's first term. I couldn't tell you much
about Obama's, you know, and then before that, I wasn't
even an adult. So it's like, you know, it's hard
for me to like put this into context of what

(03:31):
this is. You just don't hear Senate confirmation hearings being
this polarizing one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Somebody's thinking about the time they tried to put the
fine China in the regular cabinet, and it's thinking like
I've had a more contentious argument over a cabinet position myself.
But I digress. I digress as I make a brilliant joke.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Ha.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, I can't claim that I don't know much about it,
so I would say no.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Other thing speaking of why do we know about this?
I think it has everything to do with just his
him being a TV guy, right, Is this Pete Haigseth
thing going to be that big of a deal if
he was just like a random guy. I mean, yeah,
if he's being accused of like having sexual harassment in
his background and you know, some questionable behaviors in terms

(04:22):
of you know, alcoholism or something like that, yeah, I mean,
obviously Matt Gates. It's not unlike a lot of the
stuff that Gates was being talked about with. It's just
that Matt Gates wasn't necessarily television personality and was just
known more for being just a pain in the neck
to a lot of the people in Washington, d C.
Whereas Haig Seth was a Fox News guy, he's you know,

(04:42):
a commentator.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
It's interesting. So right now we got some TV people
who are invading the political sphere now.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Or the people people with like I mean, Tucker Carlson
has been you know, circulating is like this name, and
I'm just kind of surprised that he hasn't popped up
unless he just it upset. I just kind of like
what I'm doing, because it feels like he would be
the next logical guy who is going from like the
media into this because he already has the built in
following because I feel like people want to feel like

(05:13):
they know the person before they even get into policy.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
That's a really good point. So that makes sense. That's
the why right there, right because they're like, why are
all these TV people getting into politics? And you know
what's interesting is think about before there was a radio
people would get into politics. That did happen a lot.
But Juck Hagel was on radio before he got into politics.
Roll Reagan's got his career started in radio. So what's next.
I think in a couple decades we're going to see

(05:37):
some of these big influencers Oh TikTok, yeah, TikTok into
the politician. I think it's gonna happen, like mister Beast, Yeah,
come into a world near you. It's not that crazy
to think about. If you're gonna be honest, if you
want to talk about somebody who it's like, well, we
already deeply know this person. We've been watching videos about
their life every single day for like decades now.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
But that's the deal, dude, is you feel like you
know them better than Lloyd Austin, you know why, Like
Tulsa Gabbard, you know why she's like in the mix
here and why people are just like, wow, this is
an interesting person. Can you name me one other person
that served as a national the leader of intelligence, the
director of National Intelligence? No name one? Can anybody name one?

(06:20):
Somebody could? I can't. I can't either, right, I'd have
to look it up. I'd have to have Google tell
me what that looks like. You know what, I think
that's okay. I think it's okay that you're kind of
an anonymous person. You have these big jobs, but you
know what makes people really like fanatical and makes them
really interested in what's going on in Washington, d C.
Feeling like they know these people. The journey that Tulsia
Gabbart has been on from you know, a Democrat. A

(06:43):
comments to me, she's been a common since Democrat, and
I really liked a lot of the things that she
said when she was trying to run for president for
you know, years plus ago. But her getting basically booted
out of the Democratic Party because she just wouldn't play
ball with them without you know, being honest. And then
her progression more into media and you know, her getting

(07:04):
more well known even though she was more into media
and got out of Congress that actually elevated her profile
to a point when she jumped over to the Trump
train and during the summer, guess what happened. Now all
of a sudden, we're talking about her in a high
ranking position potentially.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
This Haig set thing is quite interesting because I think
it's so polarizing because we know him, We've seen him
on TV, we're familiar with him. And when Matt Gates
got out of his situation, when he decided to punt
on the attorney general thing and get out of the way,
Haig Sets was probably the least excited guy when that happened.
He's like, oh man, now I'm gonna get everything. Like

(07:43):
they're definitely coming after me now, because you know, with
Gates gone, he became like the most polarizing person to
get confirmed. And it has a lot to do with
this sexual harassment stuff. Joni Earns, we talk about this
and we you know, heard this from Ryan Schmelz yesterday
was on the show talking about this. She straight up
is you know, she's going to hesitate on anything that's

(08:04):
super personal to her. And that's one thing that we
have to understand is these are human beings. You know,
why would you be a great secretary of Defense? Tell
me about how you are as a person and what
you've done and how you've grown, and we'll talk a
little bit about some of the stuff that Hagges has
said today. But it definitely to me was I wonder

(08:24):
people can change, people can grow. But how much of
this in a situation like what Haig Seth is doing.
Can we know that this is growth based on Okay,
he's really this person or he's got to say this
stuff if he's going to have this job.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
You know, we know people.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Everybody knows somebody who's out there that's just kind of like, yeah,
I'm just kind of going through the motions of, you know,
pretending I'm this person until I get the job that
I want, But I'm not really that person.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Can people be crummy in their personal life but also
a great leader at work? Yes? Yes? Like okay, so
here's something, all right? Can I ruffle? Can I break
out a bag of ruffles potato chips and ruffle some feathers?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Can you do that in three minutes? Yeah, we'll do that.
It's more like ninety seconds. But when we come back,
Matt Case is going to ruffle some feathers on news
radio Ridged, Ridged feathers or Ridged ruffles on news radio
eleven ten KFAB and.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Raised songer on news radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Matt Case wants to ruffle some feathers, and I'm very
curious as to how he is going to do this.
As we talk about we're kind of starting the conversation
just in the way of like how we're noting how
we're understanding certain things that are happening in the world
around us, especially when it comes to politicians, in which
politicians are kind of on the rise based on their

(09:48):
platforms through the media more so than their experiences in
traditional congress. And I guess we finished up by Matt
you asking a question essentially, can you be a crummy
person but still be really good at your job? And
I said, yeah, so, how you ruffling feathers today?

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, and you know what I thought about it over
the break, and I'm like, am I really ruffling feathers?
That might have been a little strong? I don't know,
We'll see, right, if I was sitting down with some
of my friends privately, I might ruffle their feathers with
this thought. In fact, I probably would many people listening,
probably not. My thought is, okay, when you talk about
leaders and who they are personally, and anyone who's a

(10:27):
student of history knows that there's many people out there
who were great leaders, but privately, you know, they had
some elements of scoundrelness.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's hard to find somebody who had some sort of
fame and didn't have a closet full of some kind
of skeletons.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, like Winston Churchill. He it's a man who loved
to drink right.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Oh, among other things for sure, But how do we
how does history remember him one of the great international
leaders of his time if not ever?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, So I just think, you know, like I've heard
this different places, like who do you want is your surgeon?
Do you want a guy who's just like really friendly
to everybody and just is the office glue, you know,
just a real selfless guy who just the ahta shows
up with donuts every day and stuff. Or do you
want the guy who's a narcissist who like is obsessed

(11:19):
with his own personal success and has a drive to
do everything perfectly. That probably is not a very fun
person to be around. But when it comes to you know,
cutting time. Quite literally, He's gonna make sure he cuts
everything the exact right way and doesn't cut any corners
pun intended.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, I mean is that not House in some regards? Yes,
perfect example. Yeah, yeah, House. I love that show.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, dude, he's like objectively, would you really want to
spend a whole lot of time around that guy? Like,
you know what I mean, Like he seems like a
difficult person, but he's really good at his job, brilliant
at coaching up those around him. We're under him. So
I think the term think of the term narcissism, and
people use that for certain people in politics these days,
And I'm thinking, like, if we could get in a

(12:06):
time machine, I'm pretty confident that if we got in
a time machine and went back to many of these
great leaders, you'd probably see a lot of the same characteristics.
But I'm a little bit to be now you're all
ruffles and feathers finally, because I don't feel like I
have yet.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, yeah, most of what you're saying, I think I
would say up to ninety percent of people would agree
with you. But we need to know what the job is.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
If you're in a job of leadership, you can make
the argument that you are how you live, and it's
difficult for people like if your boss had you know,
a checkered pass in history that includes potentially like sexual
assault or alcoholism or drug use or something like that,
it could be difficult to suggest that this is the

(12:50):
right type of leader for your unit.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Whatever that looks like.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
That's not to say that this may not be a
great person or a guy who who is you know,
really good at his job and you couldn't still be
friends with, but you know, sometimes a leadership position you
do need somebody who's respectable. In that case, that would
be the only pushback I'd give on that point. But
generally speaking, yeah, you just want the most qualified, best

(13:18):
person for the job, even if they have you know,
imperfect imperfections in their personal life.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, for sure. So I feel like that's a conversation
that is worth having more and more as we I mean,
it gets around the whole you know, cancel culture and
things like that. I mean, there there are things that
they're bad, you don't do right, but we should be
a society that forgives. But also I feel like the
tough part about in today's world is there's almost a

(13:43):
precedent out there. That's like, because it's so hostile in
the social square these days. If you're in that social square,
never never seek forgiveness, because then that's that's an admission
of wrongdoing, and then the piranhas will jump on you.
And I think that's a really bad life. That's a
bad ecosystem to be living in. It's dangerous, it's toxic.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
But at the same time, I think there is I mean,
there's something to be said about that, because you kind
of have to protect yourself, don't you. Isn't there kind
of a level of you really don't? I mean, this
is Pete Haig sith one of the things that he
said very early today before we got into kind of strategy,

(14:26):
and we'll get to some quotes, because while a lot
of Republicans said he did a great job, there are
a lot of people that say he's actually got he
got torched by some of his opponents today. And I
don't know if that's necessarily accurate, but I guess we can,
you know, talk through it. But Donald Trump certainly paying
close attention to this because you're going to need a
plan B if he can't get the votes. Now again,

(14:49):
the saving graces. Republicans hold the majority, so even if
his opponents decided Pete Haig Sith is unqualified. Well, all
it takes is fifty senators to say, yes, we want
him to be the guy. And guess what the tie
breaking vote would be the vice president. Well, this is
what Haigs has said early on, and you can let

(15:09):
me know if this counts. And I quote, I'm not
a perfect person, but redemption is real and God forged
me in ways that I know I'm prepared for. Well,
do you what does that mean? He said I'd all wrongdoing?
I mean, you know, and rightly. So he says that
the things that he's been accused of sexual assault wise
especially he had I mean, that wasn't something that necessarily

(15:31):
was of a concern for you know, the Republican Party
and for Donald Trump. And he said, I didn't do
what I'm being accused of from these few women. But
him saying that he's not a perfect person, and you
know he feels redeemed in things of that nature, I
mean that kind of leads you to believe that, hey,
you know, whatever wrongdoing you think I have done, like

(15:55):
I'm a good person. Like I'm a much better person
Now it kind of reads that way when you say
something like that out loud in the middle of a
hearing where people are going to question your personality, right,
does that count?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
It does?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
He did also quote Hoobastank. No, that's my contribution. This
is why we'll never win the Marconi.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, I am standing in the way of that. To
twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
We'll give you some of the some of the sound,
and some of the breakdown of exactly what was said
Pete Haikseith in his Senate confirmation hearing. We are going
to talk about that coming up on news radio eleven
ten kfab.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Everything seems so important then, even love the way we were.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
On news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
So, if you're a fan of Pete haik Seth's, you're
a fan of the idea of him being the Secretary
of Defense, you're a big Donald Trump supporter, you're you're
not going to like the way that this comes out
if you're not paying close attention. Okay, Now, if we
were sitting here in an echo chamber and we were
just all just like, oh, Pete Hayseth, greatest guy ever.
This is going to be the greatest Secretary of Defense

(17:10):
of all time, nobody's saying that it's a matter of
him just getting confirmed and then Donald Trump being able
to do what he's hoping to do. Those are two different,
very different things. Well, Pete Haykseth impressed most Republicans, all
the Republicans that I've been reading about and seeing on
television talking about how he did today. They have nothing

(17:31):
but good things to say about how he came across.
And of course they're going to be if they're an
ally of him, because they want to see him get confirmed.
So we can just be off and running. But I'm
here to give you what the other side looks like too,
because we are peddling in fairness on this show for
four hours every day. We try to be as fair
as we possibly can. And I'll give you a chance

(17:51):
to speak when we get into the three o'clock hour.
The phone lines are going to pop open, and if
you've got some opinions on this, I want to hear
from you. I'm want to start here, and these aren't
any necessarily particular order, just mostly the ones that I'm
very interested in. And I'm going to start with Tim Kaine,
who's a former vice presidential candidate. He was the vice
presidential candidate along with Hillary Clinton. If anybody remembers, he

(18:15):
had a funny bit on Saturday Night Live leading up
to the election of just like, hey, remember when you said,
you know I was the you know, I was the
vice presidential candidate for Hillary Clinton at the time you
said it was the most important election of our lives?
What's my name? And everybody's just like, who's this guy?
And it's really funny because you know, that's what SNL

(18:38):
was making fun I was like, nobody knows who this
guy is, even though he was the vice presidential candidate.
He's like, this guy is very much like like well,
I would remember if he was more like Tim Wallas.
And then the host said, this guy is very much
like Tim Walls.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
It was great. You gotta find the clip.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
What is it? Though?

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Like every time the Democrats run a woman to be
president they find it like that's their type cast. It's
hit the time VP. So who's next? We got to
find who got to figure out who's next? Give me
a few years. I don't want to have to talk
about this again for a few years. I'll be honest.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Well, if you're going to be honest, it's most likely
not going to be a woman who's going to be
trying to win. I think, you know, Gavin Newsom's situation,
not to get too far off the rails here, but
I think jos Shapiro is going to be pretty uniquely positioned.
And unless like a Gretchen Whitmer, really elevates her profile
over the next couple of years, I don't see anybody
kind of getting to that level. And it'll be interesting

(19:31):
to see if Gavin Newsom can repair his image after
these fires to the point where he can run for
president realistically have a shot. I'm wondering if this is
going to kind of disqualify him from that mix, but
we'll find out. Anyway, back to what we were talking
about here, Tim Kain grilling Pete Haig Sith today, and
this is on allegations of the stuff that we talked

(19:51):
about in his personal life. And here's Tim Kain grilling
Pete Haig Sith.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
Senator Anonymous false charges, not anonymous. And I'll just conclude
and say this to the chairman. You claim that this
was all anonymous, We have seen records with names attached
to all of these, including the name of your own mother.
So don't make this into some anonymous press thing. We
have seen multiple names of colleagues consistently throughout your career

(20:20):
that have talked about your abusive actions. I think I
now yield.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
All right, So there's Tim Kaine and he's a grilling Pete.
Haig Seth, you know, has been saying that these are
anonymous you know, names that are popping up here. And
I'm playing this because for the sake of fairness, this
is what the Democrats are going to be pointing out
stuff like this. And I suppose in a variety of ways.
And I think he mentioned Pete's mother because she had

(20:49):
mentioned about his you know, substance abuse issues. That was
kind of more along the lines of alcohol. But you know,
Pete's sitting there, he's kind of got a little spirk
on his face. You have to maintain order here. It'd
be so easy, you know, like how we debate on
this show. Sometimes, you know, we talk over each other,
we get real animated and things like that. You gotta

(21:09):
I mean, you have to be poised if you're going
to try to, you know, overcome this hearing, right, you
can't show that you're getting rattled by what these senators
are saying. To you when they're obviously trying to tear
you down. But at the same time, Pete didn't have
a whole lot to say about what Tim Kaine was saying.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
There.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Next, Kirsten Gillibrand of New York also wanted to talk
to him, and this was Pete hag Sith trying to
explain to her about quotas, because Pete haik Seth has
been very adamant that there are there's kind of like
a DEEI element to the military now where they're trying

(21:46):
to have additional numbers of women be part of active
military duty and things of that nature, and he has
been on the record as saying that that shouldn't be
how things go. Well, here's Pete Hagseth trying to explain
this and talking with Kirsten brand about this.

Speaker 7 (22:01):
Standards have been changed inside infantry training units, ranger school,
infantry battalions to ensure.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
The g one example, please give me an example.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
I get you're.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
Making these genders mistakes quotas to have a certain number
of female infantry officers or infantry enlisted, and that disparages
those women.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Commanders do not have to be a quota for the
infantry commanders do not have to have a quota for
women in the infantry.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
That does not exist.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
It does not exist, And your statements are creating the
impression that these exist because they do not.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
There are not quotas.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
We want the most lethal force.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
But I'm telling you, having been here for fifteen years
listening to testimony about men and women in combat and
the type of operations that were successful in Afghanistan and
in Iraq, women were essential for many of those units.
When ranger units went in to find where the terrorists
hiding in Afghanistan or in Iraq, if they had a
woman in the unit, they could go in talk to

(23:01):
the women in a village, say where are the terrorists hiding,
where are the weapons hiding, and get crucial information to
make sure that we can win that battle. So, just
you cannot denigrate women in general, and your statements do
that we don't want women in the military, especially in combat.
What a terrible statement. So please do not deny that

(23:23):
you've made those statements.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
You have.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
We take the responsibility of standards very seriously.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
I mean, uh, I'm not a military man, and I
don't I'm not going to pretend like I know what's
going on behind the scenes or the quotas that Pete
Haig Saith has claimed in that situation.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I got how do I say this? I wonder.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I wonder in certain situations when you are a talking
head and this goes for you know, people like us too,
because our entire job has to do with talking about things.
And Pete Haik said had been in that situation, right,
you know, doing the weekend show on Fox News, that
you have to have opinions on things and you kind
of have to generate angles to fit in kind of

(24:10):
what your job is. Does that kind of sound like
what she's calling him out on here, That kind of
sound like she's saying, you're making these generalized statements and
you're trying to back them up now because you've been
on the record of saying this stuff because you're being
paid to say stuff on a television show, and that
TV show at Fox News on the weekend, we know

(24:31):
Fox News.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
It leads to the right.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
He's speaking from that angle and saying we need as
lethal force as possible, and he is saying that there
is like he has a personal concern and I'm sure
he shares that with a lot of other people, But
how much does is that accurate? And how much is
that a created conversation that he and the people on
the TV show have to keep a conversation alive and

(24:53):
going because that's what his job is. Now that that's
the question we have to ask ourselves with some of
this stuff and him trying to defiate this again, I'm
not saying that it is or isn't one hundred percent accurate,
but Kirsten gillibrand I think it's pretty pretty clear that
she the way she talks about this is that that
isn't something that she knows exists. And Pete sits there and,
you know, kind of takes what she has to say

(25:14):
about this. But I just wonder how much of this
is he's kind of stuck in what he said on
television as a pundit, a talking head pundit on Fox News,
and it's coming back to bite him because they're holding
him his feet to the fire and he's got to
defend what he says without basically saying, Look, I was
trying to just generate conversation based on what information I've

(25:36):
learned from people that are actually in these positions. That's
a completely different conversation than actually being the Secretary of
Defense and having to act on these things that he
was talking about. Well, take a break. I got a
couple more for you here two forty seven News Radio
eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
And Marie's songer on news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
I don't think his confirmation is in jeopardy, for whatever
it's worth. I think the Republicans are pretty least with
how all this is going. But I do want to
say the reason I'm doing this exercise is we need
to be as informed as possible about why the conversations
that are happening and why people are opposing Pete hagg
Sith why this is happening, I'd be doing a disservice
to everyone who's listening. Whether you like Pete haig Seth

(26:17):
or not, whether you want him to be the guy
or not, That's not really what I'm talking about here.
I'm just presenting evidence from what the Democrats and what
people who are opposing Pete Haigseth and his qualifications for
this job as Secretary of Defense why they feel that way,
and just giving you as much information as I possibly can.
So to another clip here, This is with Senator Tammy Duckworth,

(26:39):
a Democrat from Illinois who again as an opportunity to
speak here, and she kind of quizzes him a little
bit about his expertise and experience in this type of work.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
The heck seth, what is the highest level of international
negotiations did you have engaged in?

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Did you have led?

Speaker 7 (26:56):
Him?

Speaker 6 (26:57):
Because the secret Defense does lead international security nicociations. There
are three main ones that the Secretary of Defense leads
and signs. Can you name at least one of them?
Could you repeat the question, Senadra, sure? What is the
highest level of international security agreement that you have led?
And can you name some that the Secretary of Defense
would lead? They're three main ones.

Speaker 7 (27:18):
Do you have not been involved in international security arrangements?
Because I have not been in government other than serving
in the military, so my job has been.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
You name one of the three main ones that the.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
Defense arrangements, I mean, NATO might be one of one
that you're referring to.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
Status of Forces agreement would be one of them.

Speaker 7 (27:36):
Status of Forces agreement. I've been a part of teaching
about Status of Forces agreement.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
You don't remember to mention it. You're not qualified, mister Hexseth.
You're not qualified. You talk about repairing our defense industrial complex,
you're not qualified to that. You could do the acquisition
and cross servicing agreements, which essentially are security agreements.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
You can't even mention that.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
All right, So there's a Tammy Duckworth really giving him
the business quizzing him on something, right, And the question is,
you know, does he understand the question?

Speaker 2 (28:05):
You know that?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
I mean I would have been somewhat confused, but then again,
I'm not trying to be the Secretary of Defense. And
she did this with the whole idea of you've not
done negotiations before, you haven't thought to talk about things
that you might know with the intelligence aspect of this,
and how this you know, correlates with somebody else real quick.
Senator Mark Kelly from Arizona kind of had maybe the
mic drop moment for the Democrat for the Democrats in
this confirmation hearing. Here's what he had to say towards

(28:29):
the end of today's Pete Haig Sith hearing.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
And see, you say you've had personal issues in your past,
yet when asked about those very issues, you blame an
anonymous smear campaign, even when many of these claims are
not anonymous.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Which is it?

Speaker 5 (28:46):
Have you overcome personal issues or are you the target
of a smear campaign.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
It can't be both.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
It's clear than me to me that you're not being
honest with us or the American people, because you know
the truth would disqualify you from getting the job. And
just as concerning as each of these specific disqualifying accusations
are what concerns me, just as much is the idea
of having a Secretary of Defense who is not transparent.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Thank you, mister chairman.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I yield back my two all right, So they're Senator
Mark Kelly on this, and again Haigseth just kind of
has to sit there and take it because you have
to stay poised.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
You have to show you how you feel in that moment.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
You know, you have to kind of have the poker
face that you know somebody who's going to be serving
in a high ranking position like secretary of Defense would show. So,
I guess my bigger question to all of us before
I open the phone lines in the next hour, is
you hear all of this. You hear what the Democrats
are saying and how they are presenting themselves. I just
used four examples here over the last half hour of
trying to understand the best that we can of who

(29:54):
this guy is, Is he qualified for this position, what
exactly he knows, and what he is going to bring
to this position that you know, maybe somebody who is
a little bit maybe higher ranked or has more governmental
experience would do. And that's a question that you know
a lot of people would like to know if they're
going to confirm this guy. Again, it sounds like his

(30:14):
allies seem to be pretty pleased with his performance at
the Capitol today, and I don't anticipate him having issues
with him being confirmed. But I think the bigger question
is we need to understand why the Democrats feel like
he's unqualified, and here are four examples of them trying
to illustrate that on Capitol Hill. If you have thoughts
on Pete Haigseth and what the confirmation process looks like

(30:37):
and anything that you heard from these Democrats, feel free
to call us four H two five to five eight
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