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February 4, 2025 10 mins
Bob Dylan to Perform at the Orpheum on April Fools Day
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Bob Dylan, the guy, the Bob Dylan, The Bob
Dylan sounds like it could be a joke. Bob Dylan.
It's on April Fools, Bob Dylan tour.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
You know the first thing that tipped me off that
was it was a joke. You're gonna tell me that
Bob Dylan at his age is still rough and rowdy.
That guy is sleepy and ready for early supper.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
He's eighty three years old and he yeah, it's on
his website, Bob Dylan. Or for you, that's pretty interesting,
is it not? Is it not? You're sitting looking at
me just like, no, who cares about Bob Dylan? I
guess I should care more. That's what I've learned today.
What did I learn today? I should care more about
Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan, like many people would say that
Bob Dylan is at worst like the third greatest songwriter

(00:43):
of all time. You scoffed at that. I didn't scoff
you did. You didn't make a noise? But right visibly he's.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
At his moments, but not anytime recently, and he admits.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
That he's eighty three. What do you want the guy
to do? Like somehow write another like. I mean, like
the most great songwriters kind of lose it by their thirties.
I mean, the greatest of all time are like the
Stevie Nicks, Glenn fry, Don Henley did, the Mick Jagger,

(01:14):
Rolling Stones like they were still able to churn out
some real interesting music in their thirties and into their forties.
It's not always the case, especially at a super high
popular level. Bob Dylan has an incredible catalog over probably
fifteen solid years where he was unequivocally the king of

(01:36):
his style of music. Yeah, I mean, and he's like
his contemporaries are, you know, people like the Beatles and
the Rolling Stones and Jimmy Hendrix and people who are
maybe more celebrated as performers. But there's no doubt that
Bob Dylan's impact on music is about as large from
a songwriting perspective as anyone who's ever lived. What are you?

(01:58):
How are you arguing with me on?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm not arguing, You're right? No, No, I explain yourself
what I'm imagining right now? Okay, so we know what
Bob Dylan sounded like back in his prime. Okay, I
can YouTube it and find out. I'm not talking about
him as a performer. I'm just wondering what he sounds
like on stage right now. Probably just h It probably
just sounds like an engine that's kind of like not
really you know, it's kind of having trouble turning over,

(02:21):
you know.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Wow, sounds like a dying carpet cleaner. What yeah, what
needs a new band. It sounds like a car that
needs a new band in there.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
So I'm not going to come here and sing the
praises literally of Bob Dylan as a performer. This is
a guy that could not sing. If he could sing,
some of the songs that he has written would be
bigger hits for himself than they ended up being for
other people, which a lot of his music got transposed
to other people. My best, my most favorite example is

(02:54):
maybe the greatest cover song of all time Jimmy Hendrix
is All Along the Watchtower, which is nothing like the
original except its structure, except the words, all this stuff,
Like Bob Dylan wrote that stuff and Jimmy made it
his own song. Now, I'm just saying, if you're looking
at things from the perspective of people who have left

(03:15):
their fingerprints all across genres across eras and maintain the
name recognition that's required. Bob Dylan is about as big
as it gets. Okay, but again, much like somebody like Springsteen,
for instance. I'm not a huge fan of springsteen singing work,
but you can't tell me the guy couldn't write songs.

(03:37):
Maybe not at that level. I asked Chad Gpt, give
me the best songwriters of all time? First name Bob Dylan.
Bob Dylan, He's in the group that they put in
Legends Across Genres.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Chad Gpt also said that Lebron James was the greatest
basketball player of all time. I'd like to always submit
that when did that happen? Who told you that? I
didn't look it up. I didn't ask that. We had
a whole segment about that. I could go back in
the podcast and look it up.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Other people in the Legends Across Genre Paul mccartley and
John Lennon a songwriting duo, and certainly they are widely
celebrated for their ability not just to write, but to perform.
Carol King, Prince, Stevie Wonder, Joni Mitchell, Bruce Springsteen, Dolly Parton,
Smokey Robinson and Paul Simon. Paul Simon's kind of like
the most one to one I think comparison to Bob

(04:24):
Dylan and Bob Dylan, I think just is a little
bit more deep in the catalog, That's all I'm saying.
And this guy's going to be playing the orphium even
at eighty three years old. To see him in person.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
December nineteenth, Chat GPT's top NBA players of all time?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Who where did this come from? An article or US talking?
You looked it up? Let me ask it again. The
greatest It's only a two and a half minute segment.
I can play it right now. I don't want to
do that. That player all time? Why do I remember this?
Who was the greatest basketball player? Chad GBT says the
goat debate in basketball usually comes down to Michael Jordan

(05:00):
versus Lebron James, but other legends deserve some consideration too.
And here's the top contenders. Number one Michael Jordan, and
it says goat for most fans, and then number two
Lebron James for longevity and versatility, he's the goat. So so
Jordan's the goat for most fans and Lebron is the
goat for longevity and versatility, and then Kareem is number three,

(05:20):
Magic is number four. They have Kobe at number five
and then have a bunch of others. And I don't know,
you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm talking
to you about. You do you take back what you
just said?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I won't take it back because I have a literal
proof on the podcast of a moment when you read
chat GPT's top NBA players of all time, and Lebron
James was number one.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
So something has changed since then. I wonder who's reporting
on chat gpt saying that, because maybe chat gpt got
reprogrammed in the interim before I started looking it up.
Maybe he complained and yeah, or maybe I read that somewhere.
Maybe that's the Maybe that's what happened. I read that
somewhere and somebody showed me that online or something, and
then I reacted to it without asking chat gpt myself.

(06:04):
Maybe that's what happened. Maybe, Yeah, So anyway, why did
you send me a link to this? I don't need
the link.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
I wanted.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I wanted you to have proof you were doubting me.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I went back in the pod and I wanted to
show you proof, all right, whatever, But anyway, Bob Dylan,
I wouldn't say it's like seeing Jordan, you know, play
basketball right now, but you know, it looks pretty interesting
and then, uh, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
On April the first, it's pretty pretty cool. Just throwing
that out there. Yeah. Also, they just announced the Postmodern
juke Box, which is a great ensemble that plays a
lot of old songs or popular songs from the modern age,
and they play them in like different eras, like different
like James Bond, James Bond style. Sometimes they do like

(06:52):
sock Hoop from the fifties. They have just an incredible
catalog of different things. Did you have you heard of
Postmodern Jukebox? I have. Yeah, They're awesome. They're going to
be at Holland Center. Had Fun on Sunday, August twenty fourth.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Good for our friends at Delma Performing Arts. Yeah, oh yeah.
Sarah on the line here on four two eleven ten, Sarah,
you got some thoughts today?

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well, yes, yes, I love your show and I loved
at the Philosophical Ones last hour. I was listening to
that as well.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
We're talking about music and you're talking about songwriters. Correct,
oh yeah, right, Now, are you going to go back
to say when Gershwin wrote and he did rap steam
Blue and he is an he and his brother Ira
Gershwin did musical theater. I mean, those two have got
to be one of the best songwriting duos. They're just

(07:40):
not current or well, Bob Dylan's not current necessarily, But
I just wanted to give a shout out to the
Gershwin brothers. Lady be good. I mean, if you go
to Wikipedia, all of the different I mean, Raven wrote
an opera called Porgy and Bess, which is more Nica
operetta anytime you hear a commercial for United Airlines way

(08:05):
back yeah, yeah, ninety yeah, right yeah, that was the
absolute book. So I mean, you got it. You got
to let these guys into your circle, even they were
in you know, the nineteen eighteen, nineteen sixteen, nineteen thirty
three when they wrote music.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I think that that's a really really good point, Sarah,
Maybe I should, you know, and we could even go
all the way further back to something like Mozart or
Beethoven and some of the masterpieces they put together. Maybe
we need to clarify of like the modern age of
music because I don't want to leave people like Kershwin
or even Scott Joplin or some of the other true
you know, geniuses of their era good point.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
And that's the thing. If you you kind of almost
have to categorize it, because with music, I mean you could,
you could do like, you know, ten shows about it,
and you have to at some point talk about tarifs
to China and stuff. So if we just kind of
categorize it and then just super quick when Heyesu's called in,
I just wanted to say how beautiful of a testimony

(09:06):
that he said about we are created with a whole
in our heart that is only filled with God and
with the relationship with God's son, Jesus Christ. And that's
my life. My life was changed when Jesus came in
and made It's kind of a hard thing to say,
like the old old school is Jesus is in my heart.

(09:26):
You know, Jesus is in my life. He's changed me
forgave my sin. Every person on earth is sinful. I
think anybody has to say that. Obviously everyone is not
on the you know, the scale of somebody who's a
mass murders, and but we're all simple. Christ took our sin.
He rose again to prove who he is, and we
know that he's God and man, and he's made my

(09:47):
life joy and strength and help even in the hard times.
And when that is there, we have purpose and we
don't have to run about everything else. So I wanted
to give a shout out to his zus awesome.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Sarah, Well, I appreciate you for calling in and talk
to us about this stuff today. It really makes us
happy that you listen to us.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome, and you and Matt and
everybody else have a great night.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
You as well. Ah, it's so good. We love that
kind of interaction.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
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