Anger Management & 80s Hair Metal

Anger Management & 80s Hair Metal

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am memory when Matt Case is over there, Hey Matt,
how you doing?

Speaker 3 (00:06):
You know, I'm doing pretty good. I'm out of the
jort somewhere in regular jeans. Today, Case people were keeping
track at home. Why would you do that? That's weird.
But in case r And you got the advent calendar out.
Today is not a short stay. You can do anat
your candy. I don't know what that means. Those who know, No,
it doesn't make sense. Nothing makes sense. I don't know

(00:28):
what you're trying to insinuate here, but it's it's ill advised.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
I don't disagree.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Ah, yes, so we have. Yeah, there's just so so
many things I got, I got Can you help me? Can?
Can you help me with just keeping myself on the
rails today? I'm so distracted. There's so many things going on.
Remember yesterday, for the people who missed yesterday's show, what
happened to me yesterday?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Yesterday? You got your window broke out? Somebody came by,
not yesterday, but the night before yesterday.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
My wife actually says she saw footprints from the direction
they came and went back.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Did you snow? Did you get the footprints analyzed?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I mean, and they're melted now, so no, well, I mean,
who cares, Like, how are we going to find random footprints?
They didn't even steal anything. Their crime was just hitting
my car and costing me three hundred and fifty dollars
in a window bill. But they found they went through
my stuff and they're like, this guy doesn't have anything
in his car?

Speaker 4 (01:22):
What about the emotional toll? Would I would put a
dollar value if at least ten to fifteen grand.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Dude, my wife is not happy with me. Let's just
throw that out there.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
And that's part of it right there.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
My life is not happy because of how like like
it sent me over the edge yesterday, oh with my
other car, Like I came down a little bit, but
like you need outlets to get mad. I'm an intense person.
I'm a person that I care a great deal about
every single thing that happens in my life. Nothing is
just not a big deal to me. That's just how
I'm wired. You know what really does help stick in

(01:53):
your head in the snow. I'm not going to take
that under advisement. It'll cool you down real quick. I
don't That's not the kind of cooling down that I
need you know. Look, I we got through it okay
to this point, and we're gonna do surveillance for those
who are curious about the lug nut situation. We went
with the fix a flat idea because we were like,

(02:13):
you know, if this actually works, let's try it, and
if it works, you know what would happen. We could
just take this with us and like put it in
a vehicle just in case we have a problem on
the roadways to help get us to a service stop,
to send us having to sit on the side of
the road and change a tire if we have just
like a little leak or an issue, we could try
to get this fixed long enough for us to get

(02:34):
to a place that can give us a new tire
or to patch the tire. So we did the fix
a flat and it turned out to work okay and
allowed us to get to the allow us to get
to the service shop. And there are plenty of problems
that that car currently has that I'm hopefully going to
try to work on.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Isn't that fun? No, it's not. And that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I And again, I don't want to get preachy here,
but it's just like some days sometimes I just need
to vent. Sometimes I just need to get angry. And
who do I get a chance to get angry at.
I'm not gonna come in here and yell at you
about it. I'm not gonna punch the wind like this
little glass that keeps the studio soundproof. I don't think
that's a good idea for me to punch that, right

(03:15):
Like I don't think punching is good. You say that, Matt,
and you say that, and I hear you. I disagree.
Punching things does get some of the anger out. There's
other ways. There are other ways, And I understand that.
You know what Elmo does. I don't care what Elmo does.
I will punt Elmo. I will take Elmo and I
will punt him like I'm Pat McAfee. I will I

(03:36):
will take Elmo and I'll shove a sock down his
throat and punt him. Okay, Sometimes you just get mad
enough where sometimes you just want to smack something, And
you know what, that is a natural reaction. It's good
to coat yourself out of it. It's good to not
have that reaction. But sometimes if I have something healthy
to punch or squeeze or hug or knee or kick

(03:57):
or something. I want to do that. And that's why
I think boxing class was a healthy experiment for me
when I was doing that, because I was able to,
you know, hit that heavy bag as hard as I could,
and darn a lot of days I felt better after that.
I really did, no matter what was on my mind.
It was just it was a way I could get
some angst out in a healthy way, good cardio, and
I didn't hurt anybody, and I didn't yell at anybody. Unfortunately,

(04:20):
my wife saw me have a little bit of a
meltdown yesterday. I was like dealing with some stuff and
it wasn't a meltdown like, oh, Emory, go get a grip,
like your life is really not that bad, and you're right,
it isn't. But sometimes, you know, bad days happen, and
yesterday I just I had a little bit of a
breaking point, right and it's just a little snap action.
And I was just like I am just you know,

(04:41):
like the guy in Billy Madison's Like, if anybody brings
up my wife, who is a dirty, dirty tramp, I
am just gonna snap.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
What are you talk about?

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Find the clip, like we can find the play that
so it's funny. Yeah, it's a Billy Madison, the principle
of the school that is administering the and you know,
the the academic to cathlon that they do. He apparently
has terrible marital problems and.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
He decided to bring it to work. He did. He
did just slather it all over a situation that I
had nothing to do with it, and he said, I'm
just gonna snap. And that's how I feel.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Sometimes it's just like one thing goes one thing, too
many goes wrong and too short a time span, and
my brain stops being able to just like filter that
stuff through like the relax filter that I have in
my brain, and it kind of goes through. You know
how your windpipe has like two directions. It's like the
one that you breathe down and the one that you
drink stuff through. And sometimes if you like get those

(05:38):
caught up, you like choke on your liquid, you know
what I mean, Like like they say your liquid went
down the wrong pipe. That's way like you aspirate, right, yeah,
you like breathe in liquid and like your body has
this real like hefty like cough mechanism. Well, yesterday enough
stuff was going in the proverbial mouth that some thing

(05:58):
has got caught in my wind pipe and you know,
instant of coughing.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
You know, just had a couple of angry outbursts. That's all. Okay,
I know what he got hurt. You ever see the
movie Me, Myself and Irene? Is that Owen Wilson. That's
he might be an Oh that's you mean? Yeah, it's you,
me and Dupree. That's what I'm thinking of. You, Me
and Dupree. He's Dupree, Me myself and Irene is different.
That's Jim Carrey. Yeah, Okay, I just hope, and I

(06:23):
hope against hope that this doesn't happen. But one day,
I hope you don't hear that that drum solo that
the main character and me, myself and Irene here is
and then he just switches code, switches to a different person,
just flies off the handle and starts doing wild stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's kind of like a Doctor Jekyll Mister Hyde thing,
you know, and not into a like a criminal way
or a nefarious way. It's just like sometimes just so
much happens, you know, like if you've seen Inside Out,
the Pixar movie, which kind of is like you're watching
the emotions inside of a small girl as she's like
navigating through life. Anger just like is a quick trigger.
I used to be like that when I was younger.

(06:55):
I've pictured quite a bit, but I still have that.
It's still in me. It's still in here, and I
would rather care about stuff a lot and have that
happen every once in a while than not and be
apathetic about everything that's happening in my life, just to
like try to be even keeled. Sometimes sometimes it's okay
to just be emotional about things as long as you're
able to channel it in a non destructive way. And

(07:18):
sometimes a yell, sometimes a punch on something that you
can punch right. I'm not gonna go smash my hand
through a wall, but it's like the couch is sitting there,
I might give it a good whack. I need a
heavy bag, so I just go downstairs just beat up
on that.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Have you thought about just, you know, having a good
cry in the shower while you listen to Michael Bolton,
I've had a cry. Crying is good. Angry cry, That's
what I'm talking.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, I don't angry cry like I like, you know,
if have you watched The Family Guy where Stewie Griffin
like goes insane. He gets really mad because they're interrupting
his TV show and he goes nuts. It's you can't,
I can't play the clip because you know, family Guys
get to some interesting language. But Sue goes crazy and
at the end of it, he's just going because he's

(08:05):
so mad. That's kind of more my thing. I need
to like breathe it out. I need to breathe it out.
I have sad cries, and that's good. I like to
or like happy cries when you're watching like videos of
like veterans coming home and their kids seeing them and
them run, the kids running and hugging their veteran brother
or father or mother or whatever. Right, yeah, those are
I watch those and then get some tears in the eyes.

(08:26):
Like's you get a flush out some of those emotions
that way too, wasn't it. Jim Valvano who said in
his famous sb's speech before he passed away, if you laugh,
you think, and you cry in a day, that is
a heck of a day. That is a full day.
We should be trying to do that every single day.

(08:46):
I don't know if I can do that every single day.
It's a lot. But you know what, some of the
best advice comes from guys who know their time is limited,
and Jim Valvano certainly gave that to us. So I
rewatched that speech every once in a while for some
good inspiration. Two sixteen. All right, sorry for the quest there.
If you're interested, uh, let's just go ahead and do
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(09:07):
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I'm here for you. You guys are kind of my therapist.
I don't mind being your therapist. Matt Cayes can be
your therapist, I suppose.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, I'll I'll give it an old college try.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Some people call him and yell at him and he
just kind of has to like listen to it and
take it.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
So usually just say Merry Christmas and hang out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, well, I mean sometimes other people are calling in,
you know, but anyway, we'll chat with you coming back.
We appreciate you. On news Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
And Marie Sunger on news radio eleven ten kfab what.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Do we talk about? It was a pretty uh controversial
Was it proposed or accepted legislature? Yeah, it passed through
subcommittee yesterday, so pass through subcommittee. That it is a felon.
They're suggesting that it be that it be a felony
that someone who is representing a gender that they that
they were not born as and they basically you're not

(10:08):
allowed to do that and read books to kids at school, Yeah,
or perform and whatever that that means.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Now, a lot of people are freaking out about this.
The more language that we're learning. It's the HSB one
fifty eight. And I want to talk about this because
this is something that a lot of states are probably
trying to come to terms with or figure out for
a variety of different reasons. So here is how the
opposition of this. There's a group called One Iowa Action

(10:35):
and One Iowa Action the best way I can describe well,
they describe themselves as they work to preserve in advance
to the rights of LGBTQ Iowans through grassroots efforts, policy work,
voter education, and advocacy. Now they they have kind of
put this little bullet points together, and it's being shared
by a lot of people who are trying to support

(10:55):
the people that are LGBTQ. My first, My first question,
and this may be a really stupid question. Do you
have to be LGBTQ to be a person who does
stuff in drag?

Speaker 4 (11:06):
That's what the TA is. I don't think it stands
for tomato.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, but you're just dressing that way. You're not always
that way. In a lot of cases, my wife likes
to watch the Ru Paul Drag Race. She finds it
very entertaining. She's a full fledged adult. I don't want
to hear anybody come at me and say, oh, that's
preverdic or whatever that's like. I'm not going to tell
my wife what she should and shouldn't watch. She finds
it entertaining. Now, we haven't gone to a drag show
in person, but she likes the makeup and all that

(11:31):
stuff that goes on there and the entertainment, which is
appropriate for adults. Now, these people I'm sure are all
LGBTQ plus based on the very little of the show
that I have sat down and watched. Most of the time,
I'm catching them when they're in drag, which is most
of the time, but a lot of time they're not
in drag. They're talking to you, and they are males,

(11:53):
they're men. They may be a part of one of
those communities, but they aren't the tea in LGBTQ. If
you know what I'm saying. They dress as a like
a kind of a feminine male. You know, I think
they probably are more the G than the T if
you know what I'm saying. So I guess, I guess
this obviously is affecting the LGBTQ plus community. I'm just saying,

(12:17):
do you have to be LGBTQ plus to be a
drag queen? A complicated conversation that probably doesn't even matter.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
I know, I don't know. I know. There was an
episode of the Office where the boss, Michael Scott, he
says a woman, yeah, well no, but he accidentally he
accidentally buys a suit coat from the ladies section.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a good it's a feminine cut.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
And I'll tell you this, I'll come clean. Oh do it.
I used to be in an indie band, yeah, you know,
trying to be indie rocker, trying to be cool. Yeah,
and you know, what you're supposed to do. When you
do that, what you gotta wear them skinny jeans Emory, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
But those are in the guy section. Nope, you bought
yours from the women's section.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
I'm old enough. You couldn't find him in the guys
weren't making them, So yes, I did, Okay, I like
skinny jeans. I still like wearing tight pants. I had
to go to the I had to go to the
wrong to the section of the good. Well.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
By the time I was I was the age that
you were, and I was also in a band. I
didn't call it indie rock. I called it more pop
punk or so. But I liked the skinny jeans. I'm
a skinny jeans guy. I found him a little constrictive,
you know. Yeah, but I mean they look good. You know.
That's why all the guys wore leather pants back in
the day when they wanted the ladies. It's just a

(13:30):
good it's a good look if you're trying to attract
the opposite sex.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Well, and you look at some of the hair bands
and stuff, the big hair, all the makeup.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
And yeah, exactly, now, see, would we get real mad
about some of these guys just looking like chicks. The
guy from Europe, what's his name? He's a He's a
very masculine dude. He looked like a chick throughout the
entire eighties. Which guy from Europe? That's a lot narrative.
The lead singer, not the Europe the band? Oh you
meant the whole country? No Europe the band the Final Countdown?

(14:00):
Oh yeah, the guys from Kiss were wearing makeup when
they weren't wearing makeup. Sure, hey, remember remember that, Remember
that era where they weren't wearing makeup, but they were
still wearing makeup on their face. It was just like
eyeliner instead of, you know, painting their face black and white.
You know, I'm just saying that the argument here, and
this is not me just speculating about what people want

(14:21):
with drag queens and their ability to speak to young kids.
I think we were pretty clear yesterday. It doesn't make
a lot of sense to me, and it doesn't seem
like it's something that's a necessary thing to do. Wasn't
something that was happening in school when I was there.
You know, Dizzy the clown would come to my elementary school. Now,
I don't know how many Dizzy the clowns exist or
Bozo the clown. I don't know how many regular old
clowns with the red nose and the face paint and

(14:42):
all that stuff for showing up the kids schools these days.
Maybe that you know, cycle has been broken and it's
a this is the new, This is the new like
over the top entertainment, performative art if you will, that
children are enamored with the way that they look behave.
I don't know, but essentially the bill itself and this

(15:03):
is I do think they need to clean up some
of the language because, like I said, what exactly is this?
Is this going to prevent people from just being able
to watch a theater production? Like could you not take
like if there's a guy dressed as a girl and
they're in a play for one reason or another? Is
that like would that be illegal to bring a kid
to I watched seventeen seventy six. Are you familiar with

(15:26):
that Broadway musical? Well, what do you think it's about?
I would assume it's about the revolution?

Speaker 4 (15:33):
It is it is.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
It's about the First Continental Congress coming to terms on
figuring out how to write the Declaration of Independence. There's
a good movie about it. What's one thing that all
of the people that are important in the story have
in common. They all wear wigs and they all are
what all of the people who sign declaration are men?

Speaker 4 (15:58):
There are men.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I watch production of seventeen seventy six where all of
the actors were women. Wow, cause playing as the dudes.
If you are a hardcore right wing conservative and you
don't care about the arts, you might have been saying
that is completely sacrilegious.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Why did you do that?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
As somebody who's seen the movie, and it's kind of
a hokey fit, Like, it's a fine musical. It's not
on the same level as some like Hamilton blows it
out of the water as far as a revolutionary musical
is concerned. But seventeen seventy six still tells like an
important story from a pretty interesting perspective. And the audacity

(16:37):
to have an all female cast for that as they
were playing dudes, and you know what, I don't know
what their sexual orientation is. I didn't care. I thought
it was still a pretty good performance. Like, I mean,
I didn't care that they were women. But would that
all of a sudden become illegal to take like a seventeen.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Year old too.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
That's a good question, and it's not addressed in this bill.
Like it don't It doesn't draw those lines. Could you
watch Missus Doubtfire?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Oh, isn't that what that's about? Isn't Isn't Missus Doubtfire?
Like a movie that's family friendly and the guy dresses
in drag not because he's in love with the other
sex or he has an identity crisis. It's because he
wants to be close to his children and that was
the best way that he could do. So it was
a completely different conversation. But it's still a guy in drag?

(17:25):
Can I still play tomb Raider? What does it have
to do with anything?

Speaker 4 (17:28):
I'm playing a character that's a woman. Yeah, but is
anybody watching you do that?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
You have to be good at that game for people
to watch two twenty eight. No, that's a different thing altogether.
If you want to talk about this, you know, I
can take some calls on this. I got more that
I want to read that this one Iowa Action is
kind of griping about with this bill, and I just
want to up for the sake of fairness, because I
do think some of the points actually do make sense

(17:53):
that I don't know if this is an attack on
the LGBTQ plus people, but I do believe that there's
enough weird stuff here that people could be violating this law,
which could potentially be a felony. If you know. We
don't like get the language correct on this. So the
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(18:14):
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Speaker 2 (18:25):
What performances are or not inappropriate for kids to see?
I suppose because this bill in Iowa, and again I
want to say that it's in Iowa because Iowa was
nearby and this is a hot button issue and Iowa
was trying to kind of make a statement here in
the Midwest about how to handle this sort of thing.
And that's why I'm talking about just mentioning it. I'll

(18:46):
get the more details here about what the one Iowa
Action Group is saying about it, because they're in opposition,
because they are basically there to preserve in advance the
rights of LGBTQ Iowans through grassroots efforts, policy work, voter education,
and advocacy. That's from their website. That's what they say.
So I'm just throwing that out there for the sake
of balance and conversation on the phone line at four

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or two, five, five, eight to eleven ten is Chris, Chris,
welcome to the show today.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Hey, how you doing? Enjoying your show?

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Thanks?

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Just have them in here. But I think it's also
important to make sure we make the distinction between drag
and disguise. They're very different to just say, like missus Doubtfire,
she was, you know in that show. You know, if
you say she was in drag, no, that's not true.
She was disguising or he was disguising himself so he
could be with his children. Same type of movie existed.

(19:36):
Back to Swiss Family, Robinson girl had to disguise herself
as a boy to keep from being raped and maybe
be accepted as a cabin boy for the captain. Yeah,
so there's a big deciplant drag is between the two.
Drag is usually overtly sexual with children, it blurs reality

(19:57):
and conditions young developing minds to normal a very very
warp view of their own existence as male and female.
So there is a very I realize what you're trying
to say, Hey, this is this going to be illegal?
Noil to watch, you know, missus Douve Bayer.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Look.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
And the important thing to keep in mind is what's
the difference between drag and disguise. That's just something I
wanted to just put out there and to make sure
we keep that in mind because they have two very
very very different.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Perfect Well, well, Chris, Chris, I just I don't disagree
with anything you just said. I just hope that what
you just said can be clarified in the bill, because
it's not really said in the bill what drag is.
It just says like it just kind of alludes to
a performance of some kind that a and it's defined
within the bill itself, is one person performing as a

(20:48):
member of the other gender that they were not at
like they were not born as h And that's just
too vague. I think for people to like, Okay, that
is a really good I think it means well, the
people who are writing this they mean well, and I
think they mean what you're saying here. I think the

(21:08):
bigger issue though, is when we write along and we're
saying something could be a felony and you could have
a ten thousand dollars fine per minor that like is
a part of whatever you're doing. That is a serious
enough thing that we have to be very clear about
what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, and they have to be able to differentiate between
the purpose of the whatever it is performance or the
you know, the disguise whatever. If the purpose is to
overtly present sexually, overly sexually content to children to the
point where it distorts their version of reality or their
very existence as a male or female, which is unfortunately

(21:47):
what we've gotten into today, that that should be distinction.
And I agree with you, you know, the drag disguise distinction,
the three d's, I think is what you're really coming
to here, and I think that should be an important
part of anything like this. But coming from I mean
I'm in the in law enforcement and disguised and all,

(22:08):
this is very I've seen these so many times, and
people who are on the you know, the sexual abuse
of sex offender list, they try and change their gender,
you know, are changed transir gender in order to avoid
the you know, in order to conceal themselves in society.
So it's used as a disguise to not as so
much as a drag or as transgenders as we might

(22:30):
look at it, but it's more of a disguise to
avoid detection because people say, well, no, that's not a guy.
There was a girl over there, you know, and that's
why him he lives here. That's that's actually a lady.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
I know.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
So there's so many things going on in society that
are being used the transgender movement is also being taken
by others who are who are criminals to disguise themselves.
So all these kinds of issues are things we need
to look for. So I think you're very you're right
on on point when you say we need to differentiate
between you know, what drag is and also incorporate disguise

(23:08):
as in changing what you are for a specific purpose.
Okay with skate being hung or Kate being so or.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
So, Chris, just one last thing before I let you go,
because you're really well articulated. If we're seeing like my
example of somebody doing something on stage as a performance
and it is a man dressed as a woman, but
it's not an overtly sexual performance, it's just some like

(23:35):
obviously a man playing a woman on stage or vice versa.
I suppose if that is just part of a performance
that's not overtly sexualized or over the top and in
some way being very expressive with gender, would that be
something you would differentiate from what we're talking about, from

(23:57):
what we know is like a drag queen show.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And actually we've already had that, like
with Peter Pan. I believe with Sandy Duncan played Peter Pan,
it was not sexual at all. It was just she
was the right size to be a young boy and
still be an entertainer and could still I mean, there
were all those things, so's you could pretty clearly articulate, well, yeah,
this was not something sexual. So yes, you'd have to

(24:21):
differentiate between the overtly sexual and the overtly type of
performance where one is actually doing that, which would like
I say, especially for children, because that's the main point here.
Are we distorting realities to the point where we could
affect their mental health, and we have that so much.
I'd also worked at the youth care facilities, and I

(24:44):
mean back in the day when I was doing that
witchcraft was this big thing. All these kids wanted to
be witches. And then they I worked with primarily but
a lot of teenage girls. Geez, they all thought they
were witches and because there's so many movies and entertainments
had changed reality of where they thought they were actually witches.
And it was just it took a long time to
work with these kids to get them to a more

(25:04):
functional level to go back into society. So, yeah, bring
up some great points, and I think if we keep
all these things in mind, it will help us present
a much more applicable law to guide in the society
and protect our youth.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Chris, excellent call. Thank you so much for listening to
us and being a part of the show today.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Great talking with you. Take care.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, it's important, and that's productive conversation right there. I
do appreciate that. And this is why I bring all sides, Matt.
This is why I bring all sides, because you never
know what kind of conversation that you can get to
once you start to just talk about how other people feel,
even if it's what you don't. I just got an
email from a guy who was listening yesterday apparently, and said,

(25:44):
your skepticism of Doge is amusing, But you're dead wrong,
and I'm not listening anymore. I got an email like that.
I had to live with myself every single day that
I get one of these, and I'll be honest with you,
I don't get many of them. So they still kind
of sting when somebody says they don't want to listen
to me anymore. But it's like, okay, so what would
you rather me do? Just tell you all the stuff
that you believe. That's probably what he wants you to do. Yeah,

(26:05):
but that doesn't Like what's the fun in that? Like,
what's the discussion of that? If I sat here for
four hours every single day just telling you stuff that
you already think, like, what are you gaining from that?
What am I gaining from that? Nothing? And honestly, if
I did that, I'd have different people sending me email
saying that they'll never listen to me again. Right, So,
because you can't please everybody, everybody has their own opinion.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
So why do I sign up for this?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I sign up for it because of Chris because conversations
like that, Yeah, that's the stuff that makes me wake
up and want to do this, because yeah, because it's
like he is able to articulate how he feels, I
articulate what the other side feels, not necessarily my personal perspective.
But if furtherre's a conversation while we can get to
a point where hey, maybe we can compromise and say,

(26:51):
we understand what this side is saying, and we understand
what we're trying to achieve with this bill. How can
we find a way to word it properly to get
what both sides are willing to have. Now, obviously, the
political left is never going to accept the banning of
anything drag or LGBTQ or anything related to that. That's
just something that they're outright not going to go for.

(27:11):
But there's a way to make the independent voter say, yeah,
that's common sense, and that's where you have to land. Well.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
I thought Chris's call was so fascinating because he certainly
added a lot of logs to the fire of the conversation,
with real life experiences, real points of view that are
story backed and based. And I just think that's fascinating,
And you know it's those are a lot more significant
to me than people just throwing their feelings around.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
And I don't mind throwing feelings around. I said in
the first segment, I'm a feelings thrower. I mean, that's
who I am. But it's a constructive conversation. If we
have that kind of dialogue and we're willing to hear
the other side, that's the first step. You just have
to hear something that's different than what you already think
or believe, and then we can constructively get to a
point where we understand where each other are coming from.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Great call two forty eight.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
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Speaker 2 (28:12):
What are you looking at the same pictures? Is this
because he had fluffy hair in a baby face? See
it was perfectly shaved.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
I tell you man, what, No, it's just what Some
fences have been taken down in the middle of the
forest because people didn't realize they were helping keep on
the cattle in And I'm gonna leave it at that.
I don't know what that means. Well, we're having to
have this conversation because that happened, and it's just bonkers,
it really is.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
We're having this conversation. If you're just tuning in there,
people are like, what are we even talking about? Well,
it's that Iowa, the state of Iowa next door. Many
people listening in the state of Iowa. Their state government,
through subcommittee, has passed a bill to get it to
the floor of the Iowa House. I believe I'm no
expert in exactly how this bill is going to be traversing,

(28:59):
but a subcommittee and they have a super majority in Republicans.
By the way, their House and Senate operate very similarly
like the Washington d c.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
House and Senate do.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
But essentially what the problem, like what we're talking about
is people who are dressing in drag and performing for
anyone that's a minor. It could bring a felony charge
to them in a fine of up to ten thousand dollars. Now,
there's a lot of other nuances in here that either
needs to be addressed or could be addressed in the future.
And I know that they're trying to amend it to

(29:30):
you know, like be more clear on the language. But
that has us just talking about people that look like
women or people who dress like women, and what the
difference may be. And Chris's call was productive because he
talked about the difference between drag and disguise and that
would certainly make something like Missus Doubtfire not fall into
the same thing as like a drag queen show. And
I just brought up you know, Joey Tempest's and you

(29:51):
know example of well men who were very manly men
like Steven Pearcy from Rat You remember him, Man, that
guy was a hand some guy, but he was also big,
I mean very Joey Tempest like just looked like the
chicks were really into that kind of feminine look, the
leather pants and the tight shirts and the long hair
and the makeup on the face. That was the look

(30:13):
in the eighties. And I would have rocked it too, man.
But how different is a lot of this stuff. I'm
sure there were a lot of guys who were born
in the nineteen forties that were looking at Joey Tempests
in the eighties just like what are these what is
this generation behind me doing? But it worked for them.
You know what happened after that? You know what the
recoil was, The reaction, you know what it was, grunge boom.

(30:35):
The opposite. It was like, we're not gonna take baths ever, Well,
you know, call on a response. That's typically how these
things go. And that's I think what we're kind of
seeing here is we're getting to the point where we're
having an overreaction on both sides about what we're seeing
and we're talking about. And I just don't know if
we have enough information to truly make an abject, legitimate

(30:59):
opinion in about one jurisdiction versus another. And I don't
know how many places outside the city of Des Moines
in the state of Iowa would have even had the
kind of I guess want or need for anybody in
drag to read kids a book. I just I haven't
heard of that happening very much, but it must have
happened if they are, you know, going through with legislation

(31:21):
to try to prevent it. For the record, I do
have long hair, but I do not wear makeup most days.
Most days I have a pair of georts. Very masculine
by the way. And we'll talk more when we come
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