So...What Now? Trump & Zelenskyy Go Their Seperate Ways for Now

So...What Now? Trump & Zelenskyy Go Their Seperate Ways for Now

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Go ahead and jump in. Donald Trump talking to the
press right now.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Jobs and take our factories and take our businesses and
expect not to be punished. And they're being punished by tariffs.
It's a very powerful weapon that politicians haven't used because
they were either dishonest, stupid, or paid off in some
other form, and now we're using them.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Have you spoken with President she about this this time?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I want to tell you that, thank you very much, everybody,
thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
All Right, he's going to leave on that.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I don't want to tell you that you heard him
speaking about tariffs and tariffs being like this really powerful weapon.
They are, they are, you know, let's get let's get
some tariffs going right now.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm going to tear aff you.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Every single time that you go and buy oatmeal cream pies,
you have to send me one of them well, otherwise
I will not allow any oatmeal cream pies in the studio.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Jokes on you. I haven't bought those in years. So
I think we're gonna be okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Even though you owe me a box.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
I do, I still do, and I probably still will.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
The Emory States of America has been taking advantage of for.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Years there's no doubt about that, and I would never
argue that. I absolutely agree. Oh, I've been living up
here vicariously through your strong leadership. All I've got is
syrup and flimsy bacon, cold weather trailer parks.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I feel like I also have those, you just haven't.
I was talking about Detroit. Oh what were you talking about? No, Detroit,
that's America. Man, at least picked Saskatchewan. What about Regina.
Regina probably has some bad stuff there, isn't it Regina.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Think it's Regina.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
No, it's Regina.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
See they would pronounce it that way. Canada, stop it.
Get some help.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Regina, Saskatchewan. Let's see here. Pronunciation Regina. There you go, Regina.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
We check it by groc. How does groc say it?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Go ahead and ask you're you're the groc guy.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Oh, I'm the groc guy.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Two hundred and forty thousand people live there and that's
not a small place, a little smaller than here. But yeah,
Regina pretty interesting. Donald Trump as part of today, while
you know, he looks up and make sure that that's
the way you pronounced that Canadian city one hundred billion
dollar deal in investment into a Taiwanese chip maker. So

(02:27):
what does that mean if you're if you're Ukraine, you're
just like whoa, whoa you you're already investing billions of
dollars in somebody else for chips. I thought we were
gonna help with that. If you're China, you're gonna be like, uh,
you did what to a Chinese or a Taiwanese company? Yeah, man,
not wasting any time whatsoever. And of course we'll we'll

(02:50):
have more on this as the day goes on. Do
you feel any different about last Friday's Do we call
that a debacle in the in the White House between
Zelenski and Trump?

Speaker 4 (03:01):
It was a debacle because it was filmed. I don't
know why that was filmed. I'll never know. Maybe that's
just the clown world that we live in.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, I mean, if you see some of the angles,
there's a lot of people in there.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, behind closed doors maybe next time.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, but what's the fun in that?

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah? Exactly, exactly. Okay, reality TV president, right, like, okay,
there you go. Hey, hey, you got a comedian on
one side, a mediocre comedian at that, a reality television
president on the other. Of course, they filmed it. Way
to go, Fellas.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, So what you're saying is the cameras weren't there,
this wouldn't have happened.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
I think if the cameras weren't there, the meeting would
have kept going, and maybe they would have gotten salty.
And that's okay because because it happened. Sometimes you don't
think that Winston church Hill and FDR and all the others,
You don't think they got salty with each other when
they were talking about stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Oh they probably did.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Don'tn't put it in for the cameras. Give me a break.
This is a clown world we live in.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I thought them in Stalin were just stapping it up
and playing cards the whole time.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's what I thought was happening.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
And you don't think that they were saying so some
off color things and unsavory things.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
That Churchill installing to each other. Oh, absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
No, they were keeping it clean. They were keeping a PC.
Joseph Stalin noted PC gay. Yeah, he was so PC.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
He didn't want anybody to say anything in his country
about anything.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Was he the one who made him stand and clap
until he was ready for him to sit down. Sometimes
they had like pass out because they'd been clapping for
too long.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he enjoyed that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's a fascinating it's a fascinating mix. I've sat on
it a few days, and I think the thing I
got to here is the people who were really angry
on the political left that went on Facebook and changed
the profile picture back to the Ukrainian flag and saying
I stayed with Ukraine.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Well, they switched it back.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Dan say, if you're a switchback an, you call in please,
I'm sorry. That's your job, that's your job. I just
want to know what's going through your mind when you
switch it back like that.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't want I mean, maybe at some point it
could be a fascinating case study as to like why
are you changing your your profile picture back to I
stayed with Ukraine, other than the fact that you want
to act like you care about something because you don't
have a hobby of your own to worry about. My
feelings on this is you know what?

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I think. I think we.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Think we just don't know what we don't know. I
think ignorance is bliss. I think you've already decided that
whatever this president decides to do. He's he's rough around
the edges, and you just don't like that. You don't
like that he doesn't conform and do things the way
that you'd like to. You don't think that there's too
much harmony in what he's doing because he's loud and
maybe obnoxious in your eyes. But Zelensky, he has never

(05:36):
done anything wrong, has he. You probably haven't watched the
entire clip. You haven't probably watched the whole forty minutes
they were in there getting filmed. You just watched the
two minutes of things starting to get a little out
of hand. You didn't know that, you know, Ukraine also
broke some written agreements that were made, and you didn't
know also that Zelensky is also trying to put the
European countries against each other to try to see who's

(05:58):
the most good versus evil, Who's who's most likely to
believe that it's good versus evil. These European countries, they're
playing risk in their own backyard. For the most part. Hey,
let's just send those guys all of our resources and weapons.
That way, we don't have to worry about fighting this
war in our country. Or you know, maybe if you

(06:18):
were strong enough and we're willing to talk to Vladimir Putin.
You might be able to, you know, get peace and
no more fighting at all. Doesn't seem to be what
they're interested in.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
It.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
The irony of seeing Macrone and Starmer with open arms
welcome Voladimir Zelensky over the weekend to Europe and come
to a stronger European agreement with Ukraine on the heels
of both of them being incredibly complementary of our president
and our government just days before that, when they came
to the White House earlier last week. Pretty wild, pretty fascinating,

(06:52):
And you know what, I don't know what to make
of it, except for the only thing that I think
I can get deduce is the people that decide that
they are experts on the situation and they want to
stand with Ukraine on their social media platforms. They don't
really know what's going on. They just know that they
don't like Donald Trump, and that's this is the latest
way to say, oh, well, we hate Donald Trump, so

(07:14):
here go Ukraine. Make it make sense if you'd like
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(07:35):
five eight eleven ten Kevin's Online. Welcome in Kevin. How's
it going today.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
Great, Emery, thanks for taking my call. How are you today?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
I great? What's going on?

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Well? I watched that whole thing was Lensky and Trump,
and I have several takeaways from that. The first one
was the optics. I keep asking myself, HOWE come so
much of what Trump is doing appears on television, and
I think he's trying to show the American people transparency.
Really looks like I admire the man for that, for
making the effort. And the other thing he did was

(08:06):
he puts Lensky on blast. The whole world got to
see what a petty, little tyrant that man is, didn't they?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Well, yeah, I feel already, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
And he exposed this how demanding that man is. His
sense of entitlement. The United States owes him, Well, we
don't owe Ukraine nothing. In fact, they owe us a
whole lot. The other thing that goes along with this
is Vladimir Putin has never made any second guesses or
anything about not want any more NATO nation bordering Russia.

(08:37):
That is his entire agenda. And think of it like,
what was that board game we played as kids where
you build up armies and attack other nations, tri kego
or risk? What happens when the un gets Russia completely surrounded?
I mean, what do people do in a situation like that?
That's not rocket science. Russia is in the middle of
a war for their survival at that point. Vladimir Putin
doesn't want that. He's not going to allow Natal to

(08:59):
have another nation next to his because of that simple fact.
If Ukraine joins NATO and we keep funding them and
Russia tax them, World War three United States against Russia
and then China comes in alongside Russia and we destroy
the planet. Ten minutes later, six billion people evaperate. I

(09:21):
don't want to see that. I think Trump did exactly
the right thing. I think he needs to pull us
out of NATO to further cement this deal because I
can honestly see a time in the future, in the
very near future, whereas an alliance between the United States
of America, the restored constitutionality of the United States of America,
and the Russian Republic to herald in a new era

(09:44):
of Christian dominance on the planet. Okay, rankly, I am
all for that. I think that is an idea. We're
working for it.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Well, well, Kevin, that's a lot about three or four
steps further than I have thought about this. But I
appreciate the candidness of your take time. Thanks for calling in.
As always. Well, wow, I don't Russia and the United
States working together to rebuild Christian dominance is a few
few layers deeper than I'm willing to go at this

(10:14):
point now, not to say that, you know, maybe that's
not something that could be on some people's radar. Leaving NATO,
Donald Trump has teased that before. I guess it comes
down to proximity, Like, could the United States defend itself
if it were to be attacked?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I would say, yes, do you? I mean I feel
like that.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I feel like we would be prepared to, Like if
somebody wanted to come over here, which is the real problem,
if we're going to be honest, somebody want to come
to the Western hemisphere, and start messing with us. I
feel pretty confident that we'll be able to handle that.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
First things first, I think Kevin should probably read up
on his Bible a little bit, because that's absolutely absurd
and honestly evil to suggest that Christianity would be spread
that way. As a Christian myself, off, I'm kind of
disgusted by the premise.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
But fair enough.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Other than that, I'm neutral on the subject. But yeah,
you know, I mean, I don't know, so what you're saying, like,
so if America gets attacked by.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, I mean's just like if the United States were
attacked by another foreign, foreign nation, foreign nation decided it
was going to mess with us, do we need other
people to help us? I mean, we haven't really fought
a war over here. That's a good question, right fifty
years so I guess we have.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
We have the luxury of kind of just being out
out in the middle of nowhere, so to speak. Is
because a lot of times things are over there in
the European hemisphere, that whole theater of war.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So so, so what do we gain anything by being
a part of NATO, just strategically, not even just being
good or bad or whatever or economic but because you'd
like to have good trade relationship with these countries. Donald
Trump knows that, But the pulling out of NATO, you know,
it's a little deeper than you know, any of that
sort of thing. To me, I guess my gut reaction

(11:58):
would be, if we're going to do that, you would
still want to salvage some sort of deal with these countries.
Now this is on the precipice of on the eve
of tomorrow, those tariffs are supposed to take into effect
in Canada and Mexico. Now what does that look like?
And you know how much? How are we the consumer
going to notice this over a period of weeks. If

(12:20):
this lasts that long, does it further damage the relationship
with the outgoing Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau? This
fifty first state talk kind of keeps popping up here,
you know, if you're looking at at you know, as
far as Mexico and trying to figure out what you

(12:41):
could possibly do with Claudia Shinbaum, who has at least
had open an open line of communication, and we have
seemed with the help of the ten thousand soldiers she
put there a month ago. I just I feel to
me like we're closer to in a green than we
were previously. And that's just unfortunately part of my I guess,

(13:06):
the trial and error of what some of this may
look like. And I just think the people that are
adamantly opposed to it are the people who are They
just don't know how it works. Mostly they're like, oh,
I don't like change, what do we do? Why are
we doing this? And Donald Trump keep saying the United
States is getting taken advantage of. I guess we would
just need a little bit more information to explain to people. Okay,
so what does that mean?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Why?

Speaker 5 (13:27):
Why?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Why is NATO a bad deal for the United States?
Before you know, we do something drastic enough to like,
you know, leave. Jeremy is on a phone line of
four row two five, five, eight eleven ten. Welcome in, Jeremy.
What's going on?

Speaker 6 (13:38):
How are you doing?

Speaker 5 (13:38):
Emery?

Speaker 6 (13:39):
I appreciate you taking my call just real quick. This
is kind of more in reference to the last caller
made a comment, and this is my understanding. You know,
of course I know expert on all this stuff, but
Ukraine is not a member of NATO. Not my choice,
you know. The last caller kind of made it seem
like they were on the fence as to whether or
not we're trying to get in the name. You know,

(14:00):
they doesn't have any intentions as I understand, of letting
them in, and it's because of their government and the
level of corruption that's in their government. So whether they
want to or not is not the question. They cannot
become a member state of NATO.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yes, do you think on that front then, Jeremy, if
that's not like a threat, do you still feel like
Russia has a reason to go after any other NATO
esque country even though they are still financially supporting Ukraine,
even if it's not like in hard writing, I.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Feel like any conversation and not the bad down the question,
but I feel like any kind of conversation is notional.
Russia has expended you know, I don't know what the
resources are, but I'm inclined to believe they've expended vast
majority of whatever disposable resources that they have on trying
to defeat Ukraine.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
You know.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
Of course, you know, between US and NATO, we put
up quite a quite a front, you know, as far
as money is concerned and resources to stop that from happening.
So I don't know that Russia couldn't do anything if
they wanted to. I'm probably not the guy to be
answering that question.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, And I was talking to Colonel Tom Brewer if
you missed that conversation on Friday. He tends to think
that they would have to start relying on some like
deeper reserves for the soldiers that are in Moscow or
Saint Petersburg or even you know, more drone warfare, which
they know would really open them up to have to
be attacked on the rebound very quickly. They want peace

(15:37):
almost as much as Ukraine, you would think, would want
peace for a lot of these reasons. Jeremy, it's a
good point. Thanks for listening to.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
Us, Sure, thank you.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, I think that's it's a good observation we're getting.
We're getting further to kind of what and why certain
things are or are not happening with them. But as
long as other You'reuropean countries want to keep the fighting there,
it's a good for the military industrial complex, am I right?

(16:07):
And that obviously is something that a lot of politicians
have their hands into. They like the business of war,
they like when war is happening. But the other part
of that is is just you want Ukraine, a country
that isn't actually one of your true end quote allies.
You would love them to keep fighting this. We're on

(16:27):
their land, right, I mean like, if they're in the Ukraine,
they can't be fighting in Hungary. They're not in Poland,
they're not in Austria. You know that's good. It's what
you want, if you want the if you want this
to be fought to a point where basically they take
each other out. It's just kind of like these two
guys that came in from uh, give me, give me

(16:48):
a town an hour away.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
An hour away? Yeah, oh, let's see, maybe, well Lincoln's
close to an hour. Let's say Seward. That's maybe a
little over an hour.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Get two guys from Seward in their hanging out at
the bar, okay, and they're wearing Seward shirts or or
ones a Seward shirt, ones a Lincoln shirt. We know
those guys aren't from the neighborhood, right, and then they
get mad at each other and start beating each other up.
I don't know either of these guys, and I don't
really care who wins. But as long as they keep
fighting over there and they don't include my friends, and
this doesn't like grow at all. I mean, I'm okay

(17:20):
with just them figuring this out. I might help the
little guy a little bit more because he seems to
seems to be a nicer person.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
What if you saw the beginning and one of them
started it, and the and the and the one guy's
beating up on the other guy and he's doing the
best he can, but he's having to take some steps back.
He's really getting whaled on. Would you not go over
there and try to help out the guy who's getting
whaled on.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I'm a we can help him out, but we're not
gonna like throw punches at the other guy.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
I guess is the.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I don't want to be involved, and I don't want
my friends to be involved, but you know, I may
like give him money for medical issues or you know,
maybe I'll give him some steroids or something so he
can so he can be a part of the part
of the game. So that is that a better analogy.
I fund steroids for the little guy so he can

(18:08):
fight back better.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Oh, okay, you're funding steroids, I got you. Yeah, proxy
war a little bit there.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, Like here you go, buddy, you know, good luck
against that big bully. Just keep that over there, and
I don't want to see the big bully coming to
I did this once with a McCall parrot. I paid
a kid five bucks to keep a McCall parrot in
a van away from me, and it worked. I paid
those that kid to five dollars. He was bleeding afterwards,
but you know it was I didn't have to worry

(18:33):
about the McCall parrott. This really happened, really happened. Wait
wait wait wait, what were the circumstances. I'll have to
explain when we come back on news radio eleven thing KFAB.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Em Rie Songer on News Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
And it was all kind of very fresh when we
were talking about it on Friday. It's been a couple
of days, chance for us to kind of like regroup
here and uh, let's go ahead and we'll start with Brian. Brian,
thanks for listening to our show What's going on Today?

Speaker 7 (18:59):
Well in about five times to refute the same Russian
smear that Ukraine is somehow exceptionally corrupt, and I've encourage
people to look up the corruption indexes corruption perception by nation,
their organizations and institutions that compile such things, and they'll

(19:20):
see that Ukraine is about in the middle of the
chart and it actually rates as being more honest than
NATO member Turkey. And the reason why Ukraine isn't getting
into NATO right away because Russia friendly country Hungary wants
to keep them out. And what Putin wants right now

(19:40):
is he wants Golinski out, has some Russian friendly person
in there, or at least more friendly to Russia, and
he wants all the sanctions dropped and to be welcomed
back into the fold of other nations.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Okay, well, I mean me being the host, I know
that we've had to talk several times, Brian, and so
somebody that's maybe listening for the first time, they may
not be so super familiar with our discussions about this,
but I do appreciate you consistently still bringing them up,
even if there are some you know, people who would
like to push back against that, simply because you know

(20:18):
you're signing one source and that's you know.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
Well, there are multiple sources that rate the same thing
and compared to the rest of Europe. Europe rates very
high and being honors so compared to the rest of Europe. Yeah,
there you know, it's one of the most corrupt countries,
but relatives to the rest of the world, it's less
corrupt than our allies like the Philippines, and I could
name some others.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, yeah, I've got I pulled it up. I've pulled
up the global corruption rankings. I'll get to those and
I'll read those as I get through these calls. Brian,
I appreciate you calling it.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Thanks for sure.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Let's go to Roger on the phone line. Roger, welcome
to the show. What's going on?

Speaker 8 (20:57):
Yeah, hey, it's all about Crimea. Crimea is the home
to Russia's warm water fleet. They've been there in Crimea
for two hundred and fifty years and for some reason
krew Chef gave Crimea back to Ukraine when he took
over off after Stalin, but historians don't seem to know
why he did that. But with a guarantee that they

(21:18):
could keep their naval fleet there. All their other ports
are froze over in the winter. This is their only
freshwater port. They were not going to give up Crimea
and get kicked out and have the United States and
Europe sitting there in their place. And the framers of
the NATO. When they come up with that, they said,
the last day an anybody can do is butt NATO

(21:39):
up next door to Russia, because that'll be World War
three because Russia will not allow NATO right on their borders.
They said, we got to leave a buffer strip there
with countries, so they're not in NATO. George Bush Junior
started pushing Ukraine into NATO when he was in office
and kind of let it slide. Then Obamas arted it

(22:00):
and Obama started pushing it well Russia. Russia was fearing
that they would go to the data and they were
going to have get into trouble with Crimea and everybody
trying to kick them out start in the war. So
that's why they went into Crimea and took back Crimea.
They didn't I don't think anybody even I don't nobody
even got killed or a shot was fired. They just
went in and took took Crimea back, said this is Russian.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Now, yeah, go ahead, brought it.

Speaker 8 (22:27):
So that's how, that's how, that's where they're at. And
they've got the eastern half of Ukraine is Russian. They
speak Russian. Most of all the people are Russian. The
western half speaks some Russian and a couple of other languages.
But they had a referendum back in the late nineties
from the Eastern Ukraine about going back to Russia. And
I think they had a ninety three percent in favor

(22:49):
vote of Eastern Ukraine going back in with Russia and
becoming a nation in Preussia. And then at day blankeln
comes in when Biden got entered, Biden started all talk
about NATO again. Yeah, and Athink blancoln came in in
two thousand and one in the fall and said we're
going Ukraine's coming into NATO and Crimea is coming with it.

(23:10):
That's what pushed Russia over the edge. They said that
ain't going to happen because they're not giving up Crimea.
And that's when they went in and invaded Ukraine. And
that's what the whole that's what this whole war is about,
is the United States trying to push Ukraine into NATO
so we can get in there to the Crimea and
get that port.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Interesting, well, Roger.

Speaker 8 (23:29):
It's a very strategic port.

Speaker 7 (23:31):
By the way too.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Now I'm here, you're Roger, I got another call. I
want to get you, Roger. But I appreciate the call.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Mean that's a good history lesson. And if you talk
about just understanding the geography, CRIMEA would be in a
pretty strategic spot in the water over there. But you know,
if you're Russia, you've been consistently just denied, denied, denied
from even being at the table in Western civilization conversations
as a world leader. I mean, that'd be some more

(24:00):
frustrating I can imagine, and especially when they start talking
about taking stuff that you already feel like is yours.
Not that it's good to invade another country for any reason,
but you can understand what preemptive measure you think you
may need to take to prevent there being a very
strong coalition against you. Jesus is on the line, hayzeus,

(24:20):
welcome in. What's going on?

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Hi?

Speaker 8 (24:22):
How are you?

Speaker 9 (24:23):
Thanks for taking my camm I just was looking at
a different perspective. Yeah, I don't know if people reported
about how the Lynski met with the Democrats before he
met in that meeting with everyone else with President Trump
and everything, and it was reported that they wanted to

(24:43):
throw a wrench into the words. Yeah, listening to the
Senator Grassley this morning, he was saying everything was going
great until all of a sudden boom that they went south. Yeah,
he goes in those last two or three minutes, is
all that everybody's reporting?

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Right?

Speaker 9 (25:04):
You know?

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (25:05):
The other thing too, is that what was been the
narrative on the mainstream media the last two weeks? Okay,
what's been the reporting? What's been the narrative?

Speaker 8 (25:16):
USA?

Speaker 9 (25:18):
All the stuff, all of the money being longered, all
this Epstein and how quickly do you want to get
that off people's minds? The mainstream media all of a
sudden is talking nothing but this right now.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's a good point, hey, Zeus, And I
appreciate the call today. I mean that part. I mean,
we do have very short attention span, but I do
I've always felt like this Ukraine thing was going to
be a very legitimate like thing that we had to
worry about. Did the part before that that he was
kind of referencing with the Democrats meeting and even just

(25:58):
like that entire meeting with Donald Trump, We're lacking some
context if you're just watching the last couple of minutes
of the visit in the Oval office, pretty much things
were fairly cordial, but it escalated in the wrong direction
in that regard. And I do wonder, if we're talking
from a perspective of power, what kind of advice he'd

(26:21):
be getting if he thought that going along with whatever
the Democratic leaders of Congress were wanting to do. If
that's exactly what happened, and I don't know that to
be one hundred percent true, but if he were doing
if he were basically going into Trump's oval office with
the idea that he's actually going to stand stronger and say,

(26:42):
you have to give us security guarantees before I signed
any rare earth material or mineral deal. For many years here,
I think somebody needs to tell him who's in charge,
because you're not going to achieve anything. Does he think
that he's going to be able to keep this war
up for another four years until he can try to

(27:02):
make sure that he's still in power and enough people
in Ukraine are still alive to be able to act
on this. I just that would be bad advice under
no circumstance to I think that makes any sense at all.
But multiple people have said that there may have been
some a meeting with Democrats has said do not sign
anything while you're here. I don't know that to be

(27:23):
one hundred percent factual, but that'd be really bad advice,
just from the cheap seats two forty nine. We'll wrap
up the hour coming up on news Radio eleven to
ten Kfab and he's telling that. Of course he's a
military man, so I tend to trust his assessment. And
I'll just say he said I could quote this on
the air, so I'm just going to do it real
quick because he's listening. By the way, say hi to

(27:44):
Representative Bacon.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Matt Hi Representative Don Bacon.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, he says the reason Ukraine is not a part
of NATO is that the US and Europe didn't think
it would be a good idea and it would antagonize
Russia and it would put us in a war directly.
There's a growing acceptance of putting Ukraine in NATO in
the future within Europe because of the Russian atrocities. No
one outside of Ukraine we're serious about adding Ukraine to

(28:10):
NATO for whatever that's worth. And I really do appreciate
Representative Bacon for listening and sending his thoughts to us
here at real time as promised. I have the Transparency
International twenty twenty four Corruption Perception Index in front of me.
Are you ready to know the results of the NATO
countries for versus Ukraine? What do you think the number

(28:32):
one least corrupt country in the world is it's a
NATO country.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Least corrupt it is a NATO country. I bet it's
one of those, like like Belgium.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
You know you're close Norway, Oh boy, Norway. Norway is
sixth overall, second among NATO countries.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Feed the bet. Is it the place with the wooden shoes.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
The Netherlands, Yeah, eighth, the fourth among NATO countries.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
To be corrupt with wooden shoes. Everyone hears you coming. Belgium.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
By the way, it was fifteenth overall.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
So who's number one? Denmark? I knew it. I would
have got there. I should have kept.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Guessing Denmark was number one. The US is eighteenth, by
the way overall of all countries. Turkey is sixty seventh.
Brian who called in mentioned that Turkey was below Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
That is not accurate.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Actually, uh, Turkey sixty seventh with a corruption index score
of forty two. Ukraine has a score of only thirty
six and ranked one hundred and fourth. So Ukraine is
like well behind all of the NATO countries in corruption
according to Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index. So I don't
know what source Brian was looking at, not to you know,

(29:49):
conjure him up after he's been on the air, but uh,
it's just not accurate. Ukraine is much lower on this
list than any of the NATO countries, so that's it.
According to them, they seem to be pretty darn corrupt.
Is he kind of like beetlejuice? Like if you say
his name a couple more times. We have a one
call per day and sometimes we like to have multiple

(30:10):
days in between if we have regular callers, just to
try to keep things fresh, if you know what.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
I'm saying, keep it fresh.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
I'll get to that mccaugh parrot story at some point
and we'll talk about my awesome vacation. Next hour to
the Netherlands coming up on news radio eleven ton Kfab