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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know what I think would be like a home
run for whoever is in charge of anything is trying
to resolve this college sports issue. All we are constantly
inundated and complaining for good reason about the difference in
college sports. And I saw this floated around. I think
it was the Grambling football coach who said, we need
(00:21):
a buy out program. If a program, say, for instance,
JJ White, the star guard who helped lead the Omaha
Mavericks basketball team to their first NCAA tournament, he transferred,
He got in the transferport he had an extra year
of eligibility, and he is in the transfer portal and
he just signed yesterday with Baylor. So he went from
(00:41):
playing for the Omaha Mavericks in the Summit League, who
are a school that has never accomplished anything in basketball,
helped them accomplish something great, has an additional year of eligibility.
It makes no sense for him to stay there because
he got a lot of national attention and now he's
going to be playing in the Big Twelve, arguably the
best basketball conference in America. He's gonna make an il
money that's not going to be even in the same
(01:03):
ballpark that he'd be making at UNO, and he's gonna
have a chance to be playing on a national TV
audience on a game to game basis. It makes all
the sense in the world, But would it slow down
some of the recruitment out of the transfer portal by
these larger programs if those programs also had to give
a buyout to the school those guys came from. Like
(01:24):
a coach gets bought out, right, Like Ben McCollum, the
head coach at Drake got hired by IOWA. He had
four years left on his contract. I was going to
have to pay Drake some money for the fact that
he's leaving with four years left on his contract. He
can't just like leave like the same thing when a
coach gets fired, right, Like Jimbo Fisher's getting paid like
seventy million dollars to not coach by Texas A and M.
(01:47):
They signed him to a long term deal. After a
few years they wanted to fire him. They still owe
him like seventy million dollars. It's a crazy number, you know.
So if we're doing that at the coaches level, why
couldn't we do that at the level that the players
are at. If you're gonna be trying to poach these
players from smaller programs. Wouldn't that be good for the
mid majors now now they have a big incentive to
(02:09):
develop these guys because now these big programs who want
to take their best players now have to pay them
money to get them.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, it makes me think of very prominent college basketball
analyst Jay Billis. He says a lot, He's said this
for years. It's something he says a lot. The college
coaches college basketball specifically, but the college coach's portal is
and has always been open, trying to make a comparison
to when people criticize player movement to saying, well, if
(02:39):
you're a coach, that portal is always open for you, you
can move around to whatever job you want and there's
no criticism there. Well, okay, fair enough. But if now
the college basketball player portal is always open, then I
think it's only fair that those teams get the same
in return. So that makes a lot of sense. It
makes a lot of sense for places like Omaha to
(03:03):
be able to receive some sort of buyout. I don't
know how you'd establish that. I don't know how what
you do with those parameters. I don't know if it'd
be a percentage. That's the tough part right there, because
I guess they'd have to work it into their NIL contract.
But the NIL contract is separate from the school, so
there's some complications there.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, the school's not paying them the NIL money, which, right, so.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Then what then the school gets the NIL money. That's
kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah. I don't like that either. Yeah, so who's making
that money? Like, like, if we're buying it out and
we don't want we really don't like, did we want
the mid majors to make the money? I mean, they're
mid majors, So it's like it's not like we're giving
more money to these powerful programs that already are like
trying to pedal in millions of dollars of NIL every year, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
And we want to find a way to I think
the motivation behind this is to find a way to
keep the playing field even enough so that we don't
end up having all these mid majors fall into a
lower category and not really be around the tournament anymore, or.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Or or do we want them mind majors to follow
in another category and have their own national title because
it's been almost an impossible task for these mid majors
to make a run toward the Elite eate or the
final four in years past and is just one week
into fun worth? You know, what is that worth to
a program like the University of brascomall has a great
(04:24):
example like what happens to that program regardless of what
we're talking about here, right? They would just love the money,
wouldn't they because that gives them incentive to continue to
try to recruit and develop people. They just you know,
got Chris Crutchfield their basketball coach and extension, which is
great because there's some stability in that program. But it
kind of like makes you think, would they rather make
(04:45):
the tournament like that and that be like the big
thing that they can do because some league teams almost
never win tournament games, Like winning a singular tournament game
would be huge. But you're still in the round of
thirty two? Or would they have would they rather have
a shot to play like say, in the NIT The
NIT championship was last night? Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I may No? I did not. I did not.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Do you remember who was playing in that championship? Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It was like North Texas maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
No, they were in the final four. It was UC Irvine, Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
And Chattanooga the ant Eaters against the Mocks. Yeah, pretty
cool mascot matchup. But yeah, yeah, great mascot matchup. But
would you rather have a chance to win something like that?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Let's put some like the College Basketball Crown put nil
money on the line, and it's just like a mid
major net like national tournament. Would you rather have a
shot to win that?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
My guess is that people would care a lot less
if that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I tend to agree, but I've been on this whole
thing about the college football should do that with the
group of five. The group of five should be trying
to play for their own national title. There's zero percent
chance any of those guys even have a prayer of
winning a national title. Boise State had about as good
a year as you possibly can for a group of
five team last year, and they still got bounced in
their first playoff game. So I don't know, man, it's
(06:02):
a complicated situation, but I think the buyout thing we're
onto something at least a little bit that might deter
some of Just like the big dogs being able just
to poach talent with absolutely no repercussions, we have.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
To decide if we want to save the middle class
of college sports. Yeah, if we do want to save
the middle class of college sports, we're gonna have to
hold back the upper crust. We're gonna we're gonna have
you know, they're gonna have to sit pat They're not
gonna be able to keep growing. That's the only way
it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, And
You know what I think would be like a home
run for whoever is in charge of anything is trying
to resolve this college sports issue. All we are constantly
inundated and complaining for good reason about the difference in
college sports. And I saw this floated around. I think
it was the Grambling football coach who said, we need
(00:21):
a buy out program. If a program, say, for instance,
JJ White, the star guard who helped lead the Omaha
Mavericks basketball team to their first NCAA tournament, he transferred,
He got in the transferport he had an extra year
of eligibility, and he is in the transfer portal and
he just signed yesterday with Baylor. So he went from
(00:41):
playing for the Omaha Mavericks in the Summit League, who
are a school that has never accomplished anything in basketball,
helped them accomplish something great, has an additional year of eligibility.
It makes no sense for him to stay there because
he got a lot of national attention and now he's
going to be playing in the Big Twelve, arguably the
best basketball conference in America. He's gonna make an il
money that's not going to be even in the same
(01:03):
ballpark that he'd be making at UNO, and he's gonna
have a chance to be playing on a national TV
audience on a game to game basis. It makes all
the sense in the world, But would it slow down
some of the recruitment out of the transfer portal by
these larger programs if those programs also had to give
a buyout to the school those guys came from. Like
(01:24):
a coach gets bought out, right, Like Ben McCollum, the
head coach at Drake got hired by IOWA. He had
four years left on his contract. I was going to
have to pay Drake some money for the fact that
he's leaving with four years left on his contract. He
can't just like leave like the same thing when a
coach gets fired, right, Like Jimbo Fisher's getting paid like
seventy million dollars to not coach by Texas A and M.
(01:47):
They signed him to a long term deal. After a
few years they wanted to fire him. They still owe
him like seventy million dollars. It's a crazy number, you know.
So if we're doing that at the coaches level, why
couldn't we do that at the level that the players
are at. If you're gonna be trying to poach these
players from smaller programs. Wouldn't that be good for the
mid majors now now they have a big incentive to
(02:09):
develop these guys because now these big programs who want
to take their best players now have to pay them
money to get them.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, it makes me think of very prominent college basketball
analyst Jay Billis. He says a lot, He's said this
for years. It's something he says a lot. The college
coaches college basketball specifically, but the college coach's portal is
and has always been open, trying to make a comparison
to when people criticize player movement to saying, well, if
(02:39):
you're a coach, that portal is always open for you, you
can move around to whatever job you want and there's
no criticism there. Well, okay, fair enough. But if now
the college basketball player portal is always open, then I
think it's only fair that those teams get the same
in return. So that makes a lot of sense. It
makes a lot of sense for places like Omaha to
(03:03):
be able to receive some sort of buyout. I don't
know how you'd establish that. I don't know how what
you do with those parameters. I don't know if it'd
be a percentage. That's the tough part right there, because
I guess they'd have to work it into their NIL contract.
But the NIL contract is separate from the school, so
there's some complications there.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, the school's not paying them the NIL money, which, right, so.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Then what then the school gets the NIL money. That's
kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah. I don't like that either. Yeah, so who's making
that money? Like, like, if we're buying it out and
we don't want we really don't like, did we want
the mid majors to make the money? I mean, they're
mid majors, So it's like it's not like we're giving
more money to these powerful programs that already are like
trying to pedal in millions of dollars of NIL every year, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
And we want to find a way to I think
the motivation behind this is to find a way to
keep the playing field even enough so that we don't
end up having all these mid majors fall into a
lower category and not really be around the tournament anymore, or.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Or or do we want them mind majors to follow
in another category and have their own national title because
it's been almost an impossible task for these mid majors
to make a run toward the Elite eate or the
final four in years past and is just one week
into fun worth? You know, what is that worth to
a program like the University of brascomall has a great
(04:24):
example like what happens to that program regardless of what
we're talking about here, right? They would just love the money,
wouldn't they because that gives them incentive to continue to
try to recruit and develop people. They just you know,
got Chris Crutchfield their basketball coach and extension, which is
great because there's some stability in that program. But it
kind of like makes you think, would they rather make
(04:45):
the tournament like that and that be like the big
thing that they can do because some league teams almost
never win tournament games, Like winning a singular tournament game
would be huge. But you're still in the round of
thirty two? Or would they have would they rather have
a shot to play like say, in the NIT The
NIT championship was last night? Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I may No? I did not. I did not.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Do you remember who was playing in that championship? Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It was like North Texas maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
No, they were in the final four. It was UC Irvine, Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
And Chattanooga the ant Eaters against the Mocks. Yeah, pretty
cool mascot matchup. But yeah, yeah, great mascot matchup. But
would you rather have a chance to win something like that?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Let's put some like the College Basketball Crown put nil
money on the line, and it's just like a mid
major net like national tournament. Would you rather have a
shot to win that?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
My guess is that people would care a lot less
if that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I tend to agree, but I've been on this whole
thing about the college football should do that with the
group of five. The group of five should be trying
to play for their own national title. There's zero percent
chance any of those guys even have a prayer of
winning a national title. Boise State had about as good
a year as you possibly can for a group of
five team last year, and they still got bounced in
their first playoff game. So I don't know, man, it's
(06:02):
a complicated situation, but I think the buyout thing we're
onto something at least a little bit that might deter
some of Just like the big dogs being able just
to poach talent with absolutely no repercussions, we have.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
To decide if we want to save the middle class
of college sports. Yeah, if we do want to save
the middle class of college sports, we're gonna have to
hold back the upper crust. We're gonna we're gonna have
you know, they're gonna have to sit pat They're not
gonna be able to keep growing. That's the only way
it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
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