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April 8, 2025 17 mins
Should Pit Bull Owners be Heavily Vetted?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In my neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Scanner said it was on sixtieth in Woolworth Avenue, So sixtieth,
you know, sixtieth, that's like up along kind of the
edge of like where sixtieth starts by Levenworth is right
next to the entrance essentially to Elmwood Park. And then
sixtieth you can take sixtieth all the way down. It
passes Pacific, it goes on by Center, you can go

(00:25):
all the way down to I eighty. Like I feel
like a lot of people couldn't travel on sixtieth. But
apparently at sixtieth in Woolworth, not that far from where
I live, the caller said that several large dogs were
attacking and killing another dog, potentially killing another dog, but
there was a dog that was dead. There there were
four pit bulls in the backyard, two more pit bulls
inside the house. There was a male like a person,

(00:49):
with lacerations to the face and an eye injury, and
had several small punctures on his forearms and fingers, but
the vitals were stable. Now I don't know, I don't
really know any further details on this. I'm just reading
the comments and we're fascinated because as soon as you
mentioned pit bull, It's like, okay, well, of course this
happens to pitbulls. I have a statistic. I pulled up

(01:13):
the statistics here of pitbull. You know, you think about
pitbull right, and bites, right, and fatal dog bites. I
have a list, and I this is a pretty big
sample size. This is fatal dog attacks by breed, and
the list is from twenty five to twenty seventeen. I
have a more recent list. It's really not that different.

(01:35):
It's honestly, like, it's crazy how similar it is. But
this is a bigger sample size. I'm gonna ask Matt.
I'll just pop a quiz. Here, the breed with the
highest percentage of total fatalities fatal dog attacks essentially that
it's responsible.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
For which breed? I would guess pitbull? That is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
What is the percentage of fatalities in that twelve year
window from to seventeen, What is the percentage of total
dog attack fatalities that are attributed to pitbulls?

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Fifty nine percent?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Sixty six okay, sixty six percent, like two thirds basically,
And that was almost identical to a more recent study
over a smaller amount of time. But sixty six percent
of dog fatalities like dog attack fatalities to humans are
attributed to pitpulls. Now we can try to deep dive
and study this. I did have a guy email me

(02:29):
and say, I think the biggest number of bytes would
be Labrador retrievers, And you know why, that's actually not
far from being accurate. It's actually accurate that Labrador retrievers
are attributed more bites than any other dog breed per year.
You know why because there's an absolute buttload of Labrador
retrievers around the country. There are more labs that are

(02:50):
adopted than any other dog breed in the United States
and honestly in totality of North America. So they don't
do the damage that they do, but the numbers are
because of how many there are, more so than them
just being an aggressive dog breed.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
And that's why they don't really show up on the
like Labrador retrievers. Over the twelve years that I had
in the study, Labrador retrievers only are attributing nine fatal
dog bites over twelve years.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
We'll just tell it's two percent basically.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay, so they there's a lot of byes, but not
generally are they fatal and not generally are they you know,
an attacking type breed. Chihuahua's docsins and jack Russell terriers
actually also are among the most high profile dog dog
breeds that bite. You want to know why we don't
hear too much about Chihuaha dockson and jack Rostlle terrier

(03:42):
bites though, because they don't do much damage. Can do
a lot of damage now they get reported. It depends,
But these are, especially Chihuahuas and Dockson's, they nip or
bite because they're scared. Mostly, you know, they're very angry
and aggressive dogs, but it just doesn't feel that way
because of how small they are and how minimal damage
that usually causes. And for a Jack Misltaria, I have

(04:05):
jack Urosaltaria who was quite nippy as well. When they're
overstimulated or they feel like they're kind of being provoked
or things are different, they can also get a little
mouthy also, So I don't know, you know, I don't
want to be the kind of guy that says people
shouldn't be able to get these dogs, but I have
this the stats right here, sixty six percent of fatalities

(04:26):
to humans by dog attack are pitbulls. If that doesn't
tell you that we need to maybe have a little
bit more of a conversation about the type of person
that is adopting these dogs. I really think that we
need to do that. And this isn't even just an
American problem. The breed itself. According to Great Britain, I

(04:46):
believe they they call it something like the American exl
bully breed, but it's pretty much the same dog. They've
actually been banned in recent years in most places in
the United Kingdom because it's or muzzled. If you're all,
if you already have a dog, you are gonna make
you get rid of your dog, but it has to
be muzzled, neutered, and has a separate registration list. That's
the kind of thing we're talking about around the world

(05:08):
with this same dog breed. Not to say that they're
not great dogs, that they're handled properly and they're right
in a situation where they can succeed, but it just
feels like that doesn't happen more often than not. We'll
open the phones if you've got thoughts on this. Pit
Bulls in general call us four h two, five, five,
eight eleven ten four H two five five eight to
eleven ten, News Radio eleven ten KFA B and Rays Songer.

(05:28):
A thing I saw in the Omaha scandal, which is
not very far from where I live, that there were
a group four pit bulls in the backyard, two more
pit bulls inside. A forty three year old male certainly
had punctures on his forearms and his fingers, and had
lacerations to the face and an eye injury. And of course,

(05:51):
in the comments section, as you can imagine, there's a
lot of debate about pit bulls and dogs in general
of this nature and why it's probably not so super
great to have them in a pack like this. I
don't know all the details specifically with this, but I
just wanted to have the bit greater, bigger conversation because
this is bad for dogs, This is bad for the

(06:12):
people that have the dogs. This is just generally bad.
And I want to hear from you on it. Four
roh two five five eight to eleven ten is the number,
and Ryan's on a phone line. To start things off, Ryan,
thank you so much for being a part of our
show today. What's on your mind?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Ryan? Are you there.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
All right?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
We're gonna skip, Ryan, you can put him back on hold.
I don't know what the deal is there. Lance is
on our phone line at four roh two, five to five,
eight eleven ten. Welcome to the show, Lance.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
What do you think, Well that that report I saw
the same thing on there. There was a neighbor of
the guy that was supposably the one that got attacked. Yeah,
what the dogs weren't even pitfulls. Yeah, but that was
a false report that they were pitfulls. It wasn't pitfulls.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Okay, well what were they?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Because Lance, this is like the second or third time
in the last year that something like this is happening.
And then we had people like say, no, this was
not pit bulls after it was reported by by the
people calling in that it was pit bulls.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Now, the next door neighbor to the guy that got
bit that had the punction wounds on his arm posted
on that same post that you saw on Facebook. She's
his neighbor, and maybe one or two of the dogs
were pit bulls, but they weren't all pit bulls, and
the dog that attacked him wasn't even a pit bull.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Okay, but do we know what they are? I guess
I do not.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
I just know that she said he was the next
door neighbor of the guy that got attacked.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
All right, well, I will, like I said, there wasn't
a follow up on this from Omaha Scanner. And I'm
not nosy enough to try to go, you know, scrid
it around on the guy's Facebook.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
But the reason I called in is I've owned three
pit bulls. My dogs were a little kid, my children,
and never had ever had an issue. I think it's
the responsibility of the dog owner makes him that way.
And you said the thing about basutalities was the number
of fatalities in what area, like the United States?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, so this was the US, uh, and it was
over twelve years. I mean it's relatively a small number.
I mean, it was over twelve full years that pibbles
were responsible for two hundred and eighty four fatalities. So
I mean, when you're looking at a country of three
hundred and thirty million people, you know, like that that
number isn't large by any means, but just based on

(08:25):
domestic dog breeds, you know, it still stands out amongst
the rest of them, you know.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
And I own a lab now, so I mean I've
had labs and pupils my whole life. Well, I and
the jemper man on them is about the same to me.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, and I appreciate that, Lance. And I know like
ownership is one hundred percent like where we need to
start with the conversation. But that like, is there just
a certain person that's just not responsible enough like adopting
these dogs as to why they always find themselves kind
of in this situation more so than other dogs. I
think that's something we need to look into. I appreciate
the call, man. I got other calls they want to
get to here, but I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Things.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Thanks Lance for the call. Dixie's on a phone line
of four two, five five, eight eleven ten. Hello Dixie,
What is on your mind on this?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:06):
I wanted to talk about this. I am a lot
or have been for many years, a large dog reader
and show dog. I want to tell you that that
the breed of that dog is a DOGO Argentino. It's
a large breed that's that's bred for hunting large beings.

(09:26):
And I am also in that neighborhood. Okay, that dog
has the owner's girlfriend, and I believe that the man
that was attacked was his cousin who there who lives
there with him, and they have been recorded several times
to the main society and.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Do we know Okay, so there's one the one dog
that you're kind of mentioning here, is there like a
is there a like?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Do we know what the other dogs were?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Because they mentioned that there were four dogs in the
backyard and two inside Jarady.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
There is one black flab there that Alan I believe
to the guy who got attacked, and they usually have
kept him separate. The other dogs are Dogo Argentinos and
a lot of people think that they're pit bulls.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Interesting, Well, I'm glad that yeah, are different. Okay, yeah, No,
it's good information and good to clear up. I suppose
we're going to need more info specifically on this Dixie
and I appreciate the call.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Today.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Let's go to Jerry on the phone line. Jerry, welcome
into our show today. What's on your mind?

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Yeah, thanks for having me the previous caller, knowing that
you know, it's possible that for anybody to be able
to adopt a pit bull or a cross or an
unknown breed that just looks like a pit bull, which
seems to be some of the confusion. I had a
sibling that had gotten one out of Texas. It was
good with other dogs, brought it home to a dog

(10:55):
that she had already living there, an older dog, small dog,
and just surprisingly, yeah, they just they couldn't get along.
And my father in law had the best advice that
I'd ever heard on the pitbulls, so to speak in general,
and that was the instinct is too strong, and it
takes a large amount of time to train out an

(11:18):
instinct to bite, and I would hate to do that
to a hunting dog. You know, take the try to
train the hunting out of a hunting dog or the
running out of a greyhound. All of those things really
hard and difficult to go after. Well, that's all I asked.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, and it's it's a great point there, Jerry, and
I just want to piggyback on that. This is why
you got to be smart about the dog you're getting.
And I'm not saying that you shouldn't go to the
shelter to find a dog. I mean I think that
that's anybody who wants to go to the shelter and
adopt a dogs through NHS or anything like that, I
really think that that's important and I'm glad that there
are people out there that do that. Just know that

(11:55):
having the idea of a breed and what a breed's
you know, like you can predict a breed if you
know the breed better. And if you're not in a
situation where it makes sense to have like a breed
like a pit bull or like you said, a hunting
dog or a dog that has that in sync to bite,
maybe you should go with the breed that doesn't really
have that that thing about them, right, You know that

(12:19):
nobody's forcing you to get a breed like that, maybe
because you like the way it looks or anything. You know,
I don't know, you know.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
So direction depending on who you're asking.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
But yeah, yeah, and I appreciate the perspective on that. Jerry,
thanks for listening to us.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
If I couldn't find a way to get my greyhounds
to run a little bit and have a yard that
they can like stretch their legs out and get some
sprints in, you want to know something, I wouldn't have
adopted greyhounds because that's not fair to them that they
can't do what their instincts are telling them to do. Now,
having a dog that runs versus having a dog that
bites very different. And I know that Joe's on a
phone line of four h two five five, eight eleven ten, Joe,

(12:55):
welcome into the show.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
What's going on today?

Speaker 7 (12:57):
Yeah, I just wanted to comment as well. Yeah, I've
seen the dogo Argentinos and they do look like a
pit bull. I think they might be a little bit taller.
But the thing I like to tell people, well do
things that is bred in a lot of those pit bulls,
just like you guys were talking about. And that's the

(13:20):
problem with it, is that's in them to do that.
And the biggest, the bigger problem is is that everybody
that owns a pit bull, even ones that attack, they're
such good dogs. And I always tell people this, they're
such good dogs until they're not. And that's the problem.
And that's the problem, right, You.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Just never know, You never know what that trigger may
end up being. And I've seen it happen with great
dogs before, where you know, just the wrong type of situation,
the wrong cauldron of variables, and all of a sudden
that dog has a moment where it just feels like
it needs to bite or whatever it is. And either way,
you know, well, that's the one thing about these pit

(14:01):
bulls or bully breed or a larger dog like that,
it's harder to break them up. It's harder for them
to be under control, versus you know, these chuahuas or
docsins that also get you know, reports of a lot
of bites. I appreciate the call, Joe, It's a real
important information there.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
We'll come back. We've got a lot more calls coming.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
I'll try to squeeze as many of these people in
as I can before the top of the hour four two, five,
five eight.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
To eleven ten.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
News Radio eleven ten KFAB. We've had some sort of
discussion that maybe these weren't specifically pit bulls, or a
singular dog may not have been a pit bull. I
don't know, and I don't have enough information to confirm
any of this, but the bottom line is pitbull or
pit bull related breeds are responsible for around two thirds

(14:45):
of all fatal dog attacks over the last twenty years
or so, based on the numbers, and we're just talking
about that today. And Ryan's on a phone line of
four h two five five eight, eleven ten. Ryan, thanks
for calling in. What's on your mind on this Ey
what's up on?

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Man? Say?

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Hey, Well, the first I what would say, a press
everything I'm to stand by. You know, with this issue,
you can look up stats on the.

Speaker 8 (15:04):
Internet kind of fit bold narratives, whatever area you have.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Whether it's pro pit bull, anti you know, pit bull or.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Box end breed.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
You know, you can find stats to kind of back
up whatever you're saying online.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
But my next question would be.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Like, I mean, did we already do this in two
thousand and five, I think you know, I think Omaha
and calcol Wolfs both tried to ban pit bulls, and
Omaha decided is an opt so it's full out band,
but put a lot of severe restrictions on the breed.
Now that's I think we came with the insurance.

Speaker 8 (15:30):
Policy and and uh muzzling and things like that. But I,
like you were saying earlier, maybe it needs to be
the people that are adopting them need to be death
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
But and then the last thing I wanted to say
was as far as you were saying that labs are
adopted more than any other dogs. UF. You go on
the end of the rock delandside the website right now,
you're gonna see it's overwhelming with pitbulls. But man, it's
like sixty percent fully breeds hit, we'll mixes things like that.

Speaker 8 (15:54):
You know, there's just a ton of amounts out there
and so and I think, you know, like you were saying,
it might just see the people that are I don't know, man,
I've got bibbles and that wolk kind of dog. But
I don't think that we need to talk about but
any more restrictions on. I'm, like I said've already did
this two thousand and fives.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, right, and I appreciate that. I'm going to get
to Sean real quick and I'll wrap up my thoughts. Sean,
I have thirty seconds. What's on your mind on this?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Well, I would like to say that I grew up
in North Omaha where there was a lot of highly
aggressive pit bulls, and my entire life I always.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Thought they were just a vicious breed of dog.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
My daughter adopted one when our granddaughter was born, and
now I have the possession of that dog because she's
got those saw anxiety, separation anxiety.

Speaker 8 (16:37):
This dog wouldn't hurt a flee.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
If it was biting her. Now I'm only talking about
this dog, right, Okay, And I also will say, if
you are a dog owner, I don't care what.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Kind of dog you have, you better train that dog
behave properly around people, and if you don't.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
That is your fault.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, Sean, good, good stuff. I'm running out of time here,
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