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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Huscar Buzz on this Tuesday is my guy, Sean Callahan. Sean,
how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm doing great, Emory, Happy Tuesday to you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, you as well. Man, I'm looking at some of
the stuff. It's really cool to see the guys out
in uniform wearing pads, you know, kind of makes it
feel like things are actually happening. What can you tell
us about what you saw out there today?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Today was one of the three viewing windows we get
all spring of the team, and they don't u for
full disclosure, they don't get into like any scrimmaging or
even real one on one team drills. It's just things
on air and drills. And for me, it's the eyeball
test of just looking at the offensive line. And you know,
Matt Rules said that too, like, hey, you see the
(00:43):
games really really like the young defensive linemen they have
in this program. Keona Davis, the true sophomore from Arizona. Man,
he looks good in uniform and just the games he's made.
Williams when Area to transfer, I mean, there's a reason
why he was such a highly touted five star player
a year ago when he came initially to Missouri, So
you know, there's a lot of things like that that
(01:03):
jump out just to see the receivers live and to
get a feel for things. You know, they're not able
to use their normal grass practice fields right now because
those are under construction. They're putting in new grass. So
when we were in there this morning, the team was
split up with the offense in the stadium and the
defenses and the indoor, and then they kind of reconvene
in the stadium after kind of things get going. So
(01:27):
it's a little bit different of a setup than we've
seen maybe in previous springs. You know, today we also
heard from Marcus Saderfield for the first time. I thought
that was a notable thing to get on air here. Ever,
you know, he was once the offensive coordinator. Now he's
just the tight ends coach, and he spoke about that
just you know, it was not easy to get demoted,
(01:47):
you know, like he did in terms of his position,
but he really has embraced it. He loves Nebraska, he
wants to be here. And Heiner Carberg spoke today too,
and he said in a lot of ways, him in
Saderfield have kind of gone through a similar thing. Once
the starting quarterback, and he dealt with Saderfield as a ZOC.
Now he's a tight end that plays for Saderfield and
they both kind of lost the keys to the car
(02:09):
and they're kind of run that tight end room together. Now.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, it's such a good fascinating story there, because in
this climate of college football, more than ever, both of
those guys could have easily just gone wherever they wanted
to do what they wanted to do. Now, Heinrich Krberg
is not going to go to a Power conference school
and play quarterback. And I don't think Marcus Saderfield is
going to be a Power five conference or Power four
(02:35):
conference offensive coordinator. But certainly there's been more movement with
players and coaches now than maybe at any point in
college sports history. What can you say about those guys
specifically in their roles on this team and how the
rest of the unit, the rest of the athletic department
and that coaching staff made it possible for them to
lose their jobs essentially yet still feel welcomed enough and
(02:58):
important enough to really embrace the new roles that they have.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well, hopefully there's two key pieces to the case here.
Number one one point four million at Marcus Saderfield salary
and he still makes one point four million, So he
was under contract for three years and he was not
going to be able to find that kind of a
salary elsewhere. So for him personally, it makes a lot
of sense to make this work, and because you can
(03:25):
have unlimited coaches, where in the past you can only
have ten coaches that were full time guys. Now Nebraska
is like thirteen or fourteen of them that are paid
like full time regular coach salaries. So it just made
sense versus him moving on and having to be paid
out or taking a pay cut, you know, work at
Nebraska in that role. And then Heider Carberg, you know,
(03:46):
the very public his girlfriend's Harper Murray, his family's from here,
Harper Murray, the star All American volleyball player, but also
the NFL Dana Holgerson has really sold to Heiner Carberg
that Hey, I really think you can become a fell
type a tight end if I can work with you.
So I think there are a lot of things that
really have kept Hinner here between his family, his personal situation,
(04:08):
and then now the opportunity to develop because he was
not going to make the NFL as a quarterback. I
think that's the reality, and he knew that he's got
a chance to make it to the next level and
it's going to be tight end. And you know, Mark Whipple,
as blunt as he always was, he said that when
he left Nebraska, he wrote notes to the rule coaching
(04:28):
staff and said, good athlete, not a quarterback. He's probably
a tight end. And they had a role of Harvard
in the first two years as a quarterback. Now he's
back at tight end or he's at tight end now
where Whipple on his kind of final notes to the
new coaching staff, that's what he kind of recommended a
couple of years ago, but they just weren't in that
situation back then, and now they are with Dylan Royola
(04:48):
going into year two.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, it's a fascinating Sean Callahan, Husker insider joining us
for Husker Buzz. You mentioned, you know, getting a look
and I see some of the photos that you guys
are able to grab from some of these guys, and
it kind of tells you about how much of an
all year thing this is these days, not that it
hasn't been in recent years, but I don't know if
(05:11):
there's been more effort in the weight room. I don't
know if there's been more effort in nutrition at these schools,
especially with the money flowing in, and now that the money,
the players are able to make trying to, you know,
get themselves prepared for not just bring practice, but to
be in peak condition to be able to win games
in the fall. What can you say about the way
(05:32):
that you're noticing this spring being handled by the Huskers
versus what you may have seen a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You're right, the bells and whistles here are as good
as there are in the country. The weight room is
the biggest that I know of, in the nicest right now,
being brand new. In the facility, the training table, you know,
it's the nicest restaurant on Lincoln It's not even close.
I mean, they spend millions upon millions of dollars in
food with Flick, their new training company, hospitality and food
(06:01):
company they're working with. And these guys eat an elite diet,
and that stuff matters when you're developing and building a team.
With the weight room and the facilities and the training table,
and now they are going into year three of Matt rule,
and I do think you are seeing some of those
games and things kind of happening, and more Matt Rules
players have also gotten here where I think the first
(06:23):
couple of years he obviously had more of the previous
staff players. So I just think you're starting to see
probably a changeover to more of the style of player
that him and his staff wanted to recruit as they
build this version of Nebraska they want to build.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, makes a lot of sense. And especially considering all
of that, is that a recruiting tool for a lot
of You talk about the development in the Big ten especially,
and you look at Iowa's a really easy you know,
the development at Kirk Farrens, even if they are not
winning ten plus games many seasons, they are developing guys
for the next level, and that makes them an attractive
(06:58):
stuff for a lot of high level players. Does that
reputation of having those types of facilities and that type
of nutrition and how much care is put into the
backside of this program, is that a big key as
to why we're starting to see a lot of high
level recruits and transfers consider Nebraska as one of their top.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Picks all without a doubt. I mean, when you go
over there and talk to recruits that go there. I mean,
it's the first thing that people talk about. There's nothing
like it in the country. It's like the size of
a giant box store, but it's just full of weights
and amenities for athletes, recovery and areas to relax and
an elite training table, academic services. It's really amazing. And
(07:39):
then they still have the space where the old stuff
was at and then they're going to repurpose that over
time as well, so they have done it right. And
you know, they got all that done before NIL existed.
I don't know if all this stuff's going to happen
now when you're trying to build a budget and pay
athletes what you pay them. So they timed this out
probably at the best possible time build the palace, because
(08:01):
I'm not sure in today's construction climb in and what
things cost now and what you have to pay athletes,
they would have been able to do this. But remember
this was all put into motion back in twenty nineteen,
and to think about how much the world has changed
since twenty nineteen with cost and inil and other things.
So they were really really fortunate when they kind of
(08:21):
built this thing and got it going. When they did
and this is going to be the first true full season.
I guess last year it was all open in August,
but this is the first really recruiting cycle where they
can actually bring recruits in there. His recruits didn't really
get a full look at it until this cycle.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, we'll see. It has a big effect on that
last thing for you. Sean jumped to basketball just momentarily
because I saw you guys reporting earlier today. A pretty
familiar name coming back to play for the Huskers next season.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
De Marcus Lawrence is coming back to Nebraska. Played for
Fred Waidburg, and he'll make his return after leaving and
now returning. So a big addition for Nebraska, a score,
a guy with a very quick jump shot. They've added
now three really high end double digit scoring transfers and Stanford,
(09:16):
Stanford and Lawrence and then forgive me on the name,
but the guy they added from the Matt Conference. I mean,
they've got three very very good transfers coming in that
were all legitimate double digit scores that they've added to
this roster. And they're gonna need it because Juan Gary
and Bright Bryce Williams are both graduating.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, and like we said, as stock went up a
little bit after the terrible end of the regular season.
You go in there and you take care of the
college basketball crown on national television and win that nil money.
I think that put them on a little bit of
more radars that maybe they wouldn't have been otherwise. Sean
Callaghan's following every last bit of it with Husker Buzz
or Husker Insider, Husker Online. You can find them on
(09:57):
social media as well. Sewn is always man. Thanks for
the en information. We'll chat with you Thursday.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Thank you, Emory, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, there he is. He's the Man.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Emory's songer on news radio eleven ten kfab
Huscar Buzz on this Tuesday is my guy, Sean Callahan. Sean,
how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm doing great, Emory, Happy Tuesday to you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, you as well. Man, I'm looking at some of
the stuff. It's really cool to see the guys out
in uniform wearing pads, you know, kind of makes it
feel like things are actually happening. What can you tell
us about what you saw out there today?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Today was one of the three viewing windows we get
all spring of the team, and they don't u for
full disclosure, they don't get into like any scrimmaging or
even real one on one team drills. It's just things
on air and drills. And for me, it's the eyeball
test of just looking at the offensive line. And you know,
Matt Rules said that too, like, hey, you see the
(00:43):
games really really like the young defensive linemen they have
in this program. Keona Davis, the true sophomore from Arizona. Man,
he looks good in uniform and just the games he's made.
Williams when Area to transfer, I mean, there's a reason
why he was such a highly touted five star player
a year ago when he came initially to Missouri, So
you know, there's a lot of things like that that
(01:03):
jump out just to see the receivers live and to
get a feel for things. You know, they're not able
to use their normal grass practice fields right now because
those are under construction. They're putting in new grass. So
when we were in there this morning, the team was
split up with the offense in the stadium and the
defenses and the indoor, and then they kind of reconvene
in the stadium after kind of things get going. So
(01:27):
it's a little bit different of a setup than we've
seen maybe in previous springs. You know, today we also
heard from Marcus Saderfield for the first time. I thought
that was a notable thing to get on air here. Ever,
you know, he was once the offensive coordinator. Now he's
just the tight ends coach, and he spoke about that
just you know, it was not easy to get demoted,
(01:47):
you know, like he did in terms of his position,
but he really has embraced it. He loves Nebraska, he
wants to be here. And Heiner Carberg spoke today too,
and he said in a lot of ways, him in
Saderfield have kind of gone through a similar thing. Once
the starting quarterback, and he dealt with Saderfield as a ZOC.
Now he's a tight end that plays for Saderfield and
they both kind of lost the keys to the car
(02:09):
and they're kind of run that tight end room together. Now.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, it's such a good fascinating story there, because in
this climate of college football, more than ever, both of
those guys could have easily just gone wherever they wanted
to do what they wanted to do. Now, Heinrich Krberg
is not going to go to a Power conference school
and play quarterback. And I don't think Marcus Saderfield is
going to be a Power five conference or Power four
(02:35):
conference offensive coordinator. But certainly there's been more movement with
players and coaches now than maybe at any point in
college sports history. What can you say about those guys
specifically in their roles on this team and how the
rest of the unit, the rest of the athletic department
and that coaching staff made it possible for them to
lose their jobs essentially yet still feel welcomed enough and
(02:58):
important enough to really embrace the new roles that they have.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well, hopefully there's two key pieces to the case here.
Number one one point four million at Marcus Saderfield salary
and he still makes one point four million, So he
was under contract for three years and he was not
going to be able to find that kind of a
salary elsewhere. So for him personally, it makes a lot
of sense to make this work, and because you can
(03:25):
have unlimited coaches, where in the past you can only
have ten coaches that were full time guys. Now Nebraska
is like thirteen or fourteen of them that are paid
like full time regular coach salaries. So it just made
sense versus him moving on and having to be paid
out or taking a pay cut, you know, work at
Nebraska in that role. And then Heider Carberg, you know,
(03:46):
the very public his girlfriend's Harper Murray, his family's from here,
Harper Murray, the star All American volleyball player, but also
the NFL Dana Holgerson has really sold to Heiner Carberg
that Hey, I really think you can become a fell
type a tight end if I can work with you.
So I think there are a lot of things that
really have kept Hinner here between his family, his personal situation,
(04:08):
and then now the opportunity to develop because he was
not going to make the NFL as a quarterback. I
think that's the reality, and he knew that he's got
a chance to make it to the next level and
it's going to be tight end. And you know, Mark Whipple,
as blunt as he always was, he said that when
he left Nebraska, he wrote notes to the rule coaching
(04:28):
staff and said, good athlete, not a quarterback. He's probably
a tight end. And they had a role of Harvard
in the first two years as a quarterback. Now he's
back at tight end or he's at tight end now
where Whipple on his kind of final notes to the
new coaching staff, that's what he kind of recommended a
couple of years ago, but they just weren't in that
situation back then, and now they are with Dylan Royola
(04:48):
going into year two.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, it's a fascinating Sean Callahan, Husker insider joining us
for Husker Buzz. You mentioned, you know, getting a look
and I see some of the photos that you guys
are able to grab from some of these guys, and
it kind of tells you about how much of an
all year thing this is these days, not that it
hasn't been in recent years, but I don't know if
(05:11):
there's been more effort in the weight room. I don't
know if there's been more effort in nutrition at these schools,
especially with the money flowing in, and now that the money,
the players are able to make trying to, you know,
get themselves prepared for not just bring practice, but to
be in peak condition to be able to win games
in the fall. What can you say about the way
(05:32):
that you're noticing this spring being handled by the Huskers
versus what you may have seen a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You're right, the bells and whistles here are as good
as there are in the country. The weight room is
the biggest that I know of, in the nicest right now,
being brand new. In the facility, the training table, you know,
it's the nicest restaurant on Lincoln It's not even close.
I mean, they spend millions upon millions of dollars in
food with Flick, their new training company, hospitality and food
(06:01):
company they're working with. And these guys eat an elite diet,
and that stuff matters when you're developing and building a team.
With the weight room and the facilities and the training table,
and now they are going into year three of Matt rule,
and I do think you are seeing some of those
games and things kind of happening, and more Matt Rules
players have also gotten here where I think the first
(06:23):
couple of years he obviously had more of the previous
staff players. So I just think you're starting to see
probably a changeover to more of the style of player
that him and his staff wanted to recruit as they
build this version of Nebraska they want to build.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, makes a lot of sense. And especially considering all
of that, is that a recruiting tool for a lot
of You talk about the development in the Big ten especially,
and you look at Iowa's a really easy you know,
the development at Kirk Farrens, even if they are not
winning ten plus games many seasons, they are developing guys
for the next level, and that makes them an attractive
(06:58):
stuff for a lot of high level players. Does that
reputation of having those types of facilities and that type
of nutrition and how much care is put into the
backside of this program, is that a big key as
to why we're starting to see a lot of high
level recruits and transfers consider Nebraska as one of their top.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Picks all without a doubt. I mean, when you go
over there and talk to recruits that go there. I mean,
it's the first thing that people talk about. There's nothing
like it in the country. It's like the size of
a giant box store, but it's just full of weights
and amenities for athletes, recovery and areas to relax and
an elite training table, academic services. It's really amazing. And
(07:39):
then they still have the space where the old stuff
was at and then they're going to repurpose that over
time as well, so they have done it right. And
you know, they got all that done before NIL existed.
I don't know if all this stuff's going to happen
now when you're trying to build a budget and pay
athletes what you pay them. So they timed this out
probably at the best possible time build the palace, because
(08:01):
I'm not sure in today's construction climb in and what
things cost now and what you have to pay athletes,
they would have been able to do this. But remember
this was all put into motion back in twenty nineteen,
and to think about how much the world has changed
since twenty nineteen with cost and inil and other things.
So they were really really fortunate when they kind of
(08:21):
built this thing and got it going. When they did
and this is going to be the first true full season.
I guess last year it was all open in August,
but this is the first really recruiting cycle where they
can actually bring recruits in there. His recruits didn't really
get a full look at it until this cycle.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, we'll see. It has a big effect on that
last thing for you. Sean jumped to basketball just momentarily
because I saw you guys reporting earlier today. A pretty
familiar name coming back to play for the Huskers next season.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
De Marcus Lawrence is coming back to Nebraska. Played for
Fred Waidburg, and he'll make his return after leaving and
now returning. So a big addition for Nebraska, a score,
a guy with a very quick jump shot. They've added
now three really high end double digit scoring transfers and Stanford,
(09:16):
Stanford and Lawrence and then forgive me on the name,
but the guy they added from the Matt Conference. I mean,
they've got three very very good transfers coming in that
were all legitimate double digit scores that they've added to
this roster. And they're gonna need it because Juan Gary
and Bright Bryce Williams are both graduating.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, and like we said, as stock went up a
little bit after the terrible end of the regular season.
You go in there and you take care of the
college basketball crown on national television and win that nil money.
I think that put them on a little bit of
more radars that maybe they wouldn't have been otherwise. Sean
Callaghan's following every last bit of it with Husker Buzz
or Husker Insider, Husker Online. You can find them on
(09:57):
social media as well. Sewn is always man. Thanks for
the en information. We'll chat with you Thursday.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Thank you, Emory, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, there he is. He's the Man.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Emory's songer on news radio eleven ten kfab
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