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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you like the idea of electing a pope or
should somebody just get like struck by lightning and that's
the guy.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, didn't they do? Like a experiment at Stanford back
in the seventies that tried that and it didn't go
so well.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I don't think we're supposed to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, it's true, we're still under that.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
You know what. Everybody's breaking the rules anyway, I'll talk
about it didn't go so well for those Stanford guys.
It's just you know who It did work for Marty McFly. Yeah,
things worked out pretty well for him. I think a
lot of it had to do with the fact that
he just knew what was going to happen when, because
you know, he had an unfair advantage coming from thirty
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years in the future. But alas the pope thing conclave
first round today, you know, all the cardinals, hundred and
fifty five of them, if you're counting and keep you
score at home, they have to I guess they talk
amongst themselves. How much campaigning do you think's going on? Right?
The pope is supposed to be selected by God, but
is he's selected by God through the cardinals? Like the
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cardinals just feel like they're told by God who they're
supposed to vote for, and then they all come to
different conclusions, and then they have to go through enough
like they have to go through enough rounds eventually to
where somebody gets the number necessary to become the next pope,
and then that guy's just the pope until he dies
or retires.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, that sounds right to me. I'm not totally sure
about the inner workings. They probably don't allow cameras in
the room, the decision room.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You know, you're right, it's very secretive, more secretive conclave
or the Masons, remember the you know the Masons, the
Free Masons. That those guys, Yeah, the guys with the G,
says a G. I never got that. My uncle was
a Free Mason and he wore a ring with the
G on it. I never understood what that was all about.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You probably couldn't tell you about it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I didn't ask. I just didn't care that much. Now
I care now, I wish I would have.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Did they have funny hats?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I think they they're supposed to. The Cardinals were funny hats.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, like you join a secret society and you don't
get a funny hat.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That's a pretty big letdown, is it. The water buffaloes
and the flintstones. They have the funny hats. The caaba
guys Caba cabba cabo.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
What is it? Cocoa coca cabana.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
No cabba. They were the little hats and.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
The coca coca caba.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Shout out to our guy. What's his face, Barry Manilo? Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Is that his?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah? Oh there it is, all right. So we're keeping
an eye on the pope thing. The black smoke more
iconic decision making process though, conclave what a word secretive.
Everybody's looking at a chimney and whether or not it's
black or white smoke. That's how we learn these things.
It's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, it's it's cool to be old school, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Iconic. It's a The black smoke is just like the
rolling out of the chimney there in the Vatican, the
Sistine Chapel. OHI. Anyway, yesterday we didn't talk too much
about this, did you know, uh, you know, their Newark
in Newark Liberty International Airport yesterday had an outage of radar.
We mentioned this kind of in passing, and this took
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place around the airport. We're talking about like some major
issues with airports, not that I've experienced. I flew The
only problem I have is by king of my stupid
ear to pop. But there have been some pretty noticeable
important issues that have been happening in airports and with
air travel around the United States in twenty twenty five,
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and the communication failure in with radar has led some
air traffic controllers a forty five day trauma leave. They're
going on a forty five day leave to deal with
personal mental trauma. Under the Federal Employees Compensation Act FECA,
air traffic controllers are entitled to a forty five day
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continuation of pay or trauma leave for mental health conditions
such as stress, anxiety, or post traumatic stress disorder from
an identifiable work related incident. And apparently with the communication
loss with some of these with their airplanes, their aircraft
the radar, you can think about how stressful that theoretically
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could be. Heck, when they have great communication, seemingly there's
issues that are abound. You know, remember the black Hawk
chopper that got up into the airspace of that American
Airlines flight. Remember that guy that was not paying any
attention and went through a runway and nearly cut off
a plane that ended up having to like bounce back
up into the air to avoid him.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Remember that guy Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That's the kind of thing, right, If I was an
aircraftic controller with full communication and that stuff was happening,
that frustrates the heck out of me. There's a lot
of responsibility in what I'm doing, and I'm still not
even getting good communication or the listening from the people
in the aircraft that we're supposed to be talking to.
Now you've taken out all of my communications. Now they
don't have radar, They have no idea where other planes
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are that who That could be a that could be
a problem anyway. Controllers at the Philadelphia Terminal Radar Approach
Control were so traumatized after temporarily losing communication with their
aircrafts that this past Monday they've also taken the forty
five day length leave of absence.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, they might have just been itching for it.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, honestly, like you
could take advantage of the system. This is a great opportunity,
but it does sound like a stressful job for whatever
it's worth.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
If you had a buddy in the biz and you
wanted to line yourself up with a nice lengthy vacation,
you can just time that thing out.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
What are you saying, I'm just thinking out loud some
of somebody like cuts communication on you, and you're just like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Saying, I'm positing. I'm positing the wild rogue and clearly
wrong theory that maybe all of this was a ruse
for somebody to cash in on forty five days straight.
And he had a buddy on the inside who helped
him out. He said, I'll cut the radar. See, you'll
go crazy, See you'll lose your marble see. And the
guy he's like, you know, that idea is dumb enough
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to work. It's like Moe and Larry figuring out how
they're gonna get Curly's rotten tooth out of his mouth
so he can finally sleep through the night.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Forty five days. Huh. Yeah, well, well that's that's exciting.
I'm happy to happy to hear that. Anyway, if you
got thoughts on this forty five day leave of absence,
crazy enough to work, crazy enough to uh, what would
it take at your job for you to be entitled
you think of forty five days of a leave of absence,
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essentially for mental health purposes. I have a couple of
things that would get me to that point. We'll share
that and if you want to call us four oh
two five five eight to eleven ten. Four oh two,
five five eight to eleven ten. You're listening to news
radio eleven ten kfab And again, I don't know if
my strategy is improved from last year, trying to get
more orange and try to get more fresh jelly out
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on a day to day basis, But I haven't personally
seen an oriole, which is mildly frustrating. I just don't
think it's a good spot on my block. It really isn't. Anyway,
appreciate the note, Georget I guess I'm going to have
to go to a park and see some more for myself. Anyway,
You over there, Matt Case, Let's say something work related happens,
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you potentially would be entitled to forty five days leave
of absence, but it's got to be something work related
that could leave you some mental trauma, that's for sure.
What would it take for you to be able to
take on that forty five day leave of absence. What
would be traumatic enough to where you think that you
could get away with the claim in your forty five days?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
What a question? I know, right, I don't know, but
that does sound nice. Forty five days. What would I
do for those forty five days? You know what I'd do? Huh?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well, first of all, you know, it would be traumatic
enough for me to do that. Somebody's saying a bad
word on the air and us not catching it, eh,
and with us getting in like big trouble. But then
we found out we actually did catch it. It was
like a close call. Though, I might have to like
call in for my forty five days. Oh, I was
so close. So we were so close to like a
ten thousand dollars fine or was it thirty seven five
hundred dollars or something like that. We have to take it.
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You'd have to take training that tells us this. Yeah, okay,
so forty five days. I how much does it cost
to live in the Bahamas for forty five days?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You want to ask Chad Gpt, is.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
There a key west spot that's open? Because he don't
give you any money. No, you just make the money.
You get the money that you would. Well, yeah, so
it's with paid, paid leave. Yeah, it's like you were
doing it's like you're working. See, you probably don't want
to do anything too crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Why not? Well, I'm just I'm thinking for myself here.
I wouldn't be able to do anything too crazy because
it wouldn't it's not like I'm getting a windfall of cash.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well let me see here, let me see here. How
much does it cost to live in Bahamas for forty
five days? Okay, general breakdown, Uh, you'll need forty five
hundred dollars for hotel or hostels. Potentially you could maybe
get away with like twenty five hundred. If you find
budget places like hostels, groceries, you're gonna need about seven
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hundred to one thousand dollars. Blah blah blah. Low end
you need eight thousand dollars. Mid end or high end
fifteen to eighteen thousand dollars. Do you have that much money?
I don't. I don't have that much money.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Not expendably.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
No, I don't think I could. I don't think I
spend that. Joe says, the only thing traumatic enough to
take forty five days off of work and get paid
for it is death. I don't think Joe's a fan
of these air traffic controllers getting to claim forty five
days of paid leave for mental trauma. How does this
help anything? By the way, right, can we ask that question?
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What does a forty five day paid leave do to
help any of these people? I'm sure it's a stressful job,
but maybe take a couple of days off, regroup and
come back to work.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Well.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
But yeah, but you know, you think about these kind
of things. You know how people in sports sometimes they
need a sports psychologist because they got the yips. Yeah,
like a pitcher who just can't seem to hit the
plate anymore. What if a pilot, after something like this,
the next time he drops the landing gear, all of
a sudden, he gets all sweating and he's like, you know,
he has PTSD, starts thinking about the last time.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But we're not talking what about pilots. We're talking about
the air traffic controllers. You know, the pilot, all right.
I don't want anybody that's got a little bit of
case of the yips or lack of confidence flying a
plane that's carrying two hundred people on it. That seems
like a bad idea too. But air traffic controllers something
that happened beyond your control. You had to try to
help people navigate best you can with no radar. Oh,
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and sometimes your full communication goes out. How does you
taking six weeks off for more help any of this?
Is that not a fair question to ask? Take a
couple of days, take a deep breath, get your marbles
back together, and let's let's get you back to work. Remember,
I thought, wasn't everybody complaining about the fact that you
have less air traffic controllers than we need right now
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in airports across America?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Wouldn't robots do a better job anyways?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
How would a robot be able to help these people?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I was saying, they do better at controlling traffic, and
they wouldn't need forty five days if something went wrong
at the office.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Okay, so how would a robot do this?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Though?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Is radar a robot? So the robot radar goes out? Well,
how could robots on the ground and air traffic control
help resolve this issue? You're right, they wouldn't need the
forty five days, but I'm not so sure they'd be
able to function. You know, sometimes the robots mess up.
Sometimes our computer crashes, and that computer right there crashed
one day and I couldn't log into it. Remember that,
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Remember it wasn't allowed letting us log in. Yeah, and
we couldn't hit play like we couldn't like play the
next thing.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, I was busted. Needed a hard reboot.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And so I just had to sit here and just
like monologue while we figured the problem out. What if
I wasn't here.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Well the plane would just have to taxi until we
rebooted the system.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, yes, what I think I'm deserved of forty five
days of paid leave for the anxiety that that caused me.
I wasn't ready to talk on the radio yet.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well, I think uh statute of limitations has passed. We'll
have to wait for that to happen again.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Oh come on, I might not be able to live
in the Bahamas, but I can live in Omaha. I
can go camping. Maybe that's what I need to do,
really refresh my senses. Something crazy happens to me at work,
I take forty five days of paid leave. Could you imagine,
by the way, offering this Peral Employees Compensation Act and
titles into a forty five day continuation of pay or
trauma leave for mental health conditions? How do you even
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diagnose that? Probably a licensed therapist. Yeah, but could you
pay them off too? Oh so we're going that side
of things. That's what I'm saying, Like, could you like
you're talking about like, hey, you got a guy on
the inside, let's see if we can't mess around and
knock out radar so I can claim forty five days
of paid leave.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Well, I was just talking silly. I think that would
be a pretty convoluted plot.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
But I'm also saying that it's not out of the
realm of possibility. If you have a friend, I mean,
what is stress or anxiety? How do you get diagnosed
with something like that? That you have to have the symptoms? Yeah,
but how do you show the symptoms? Couldn't you fake those?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well I talked about to have them and they have
to be impacting your life in a negative way.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, but what if I said that they were Well,
anybody can say anything. And that's what I'm saying. How
does a therapist know different. It's not like you can
take my blood pressure and all of a sudden it's like, oh, yeah,
you got stress.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well that that is an indicator.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It can be, But what if my blood pressure is
normal and I still sam stressed out. Are you not
going to believe me? Do I need to feign a
medical condition just so I get my forty five days
of paid leave?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah? I don't. I would be interesting to see how
they break that out and what they do to, you know,
check the validity of the claims. I don't know. It'd
be interesting to see what their system is on that.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
All right, I'm gonna ask what this Federal Employees Compensation
Act with what workers get forty five days off for
trauma leave in the Federal Employees Compensation Act? And yeah,
so this is any federal civilian employees like postal workers, TSA, agents,
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IRS employees, But the injury must be traumatic. But this
this is like for this is like for physical injuries
and not mental health, which is what these people are saying.
Does it count if it's mental health? I mean it
obviously does, but I'm just curious. But mental health conditions
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you qualify, but not for usually the entire forty five
days of continuation of pay. So there you go. I
have no idea. But they say if there is a sudden,
identifiable incident and they immediately suffer psychological trauma, they might
qualify for the cop. They say, it's very uncommon. However,
you would have to file a Form CA one for
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traumatic injury and have strong medical evidence from a psychiatrist
or a psychologist. So there we go. We will come
back if you want to call in you got some
thoughts on this forty five days of medical leave, or
if you're interested in talking about what these people are
going on, feel free to hit me up. Four oh two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten is the phone number, and we'll chat with
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you next on news radio eleven tin KFAB and raised
on there. So we've had we've had some emails here
about this. Had U this person sending in this email
he said, if you need forty five days to take
off for any sort of incident, you probably shouldn't be
in that field. Fair, fair point. Nah, I disagree, all right,
So what what in like forty five days?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I had another email from Gina said, knowing that potentially
hundreds of people could be killed because of a lack
of a communication and you know you're sitting there, I
would bet that that would put people in a position
where they would think pretty badly. It may not be
their fault, but imagine the grief and the horror. I
could see that forty five days though when it wasn't
had nothing to do with you or anything that you did.
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You were just there. I don't know, what do you think, Well.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
They had a good union.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
This is these are the federal workers right that Donald
Trump and Elon Musk are trying to, you know, figure
out who is doing what. I wonder if there are
any political implications of this. Right people are looking at
the airline industry, in the airplane industry, flights aviation in general,
air traffic controllers. It's a bit more complicated. It's a
bit more complex, isn't it. And I don't exactly know
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how to line it up on a like a job
to job basis, But people are saying air traffic controllers,
that's one of the big problems. We just don't have
enough people. We just don't have enough staffers. So you
have to make it a good enough job for people
to want it. But then you also have our current government,
which people are saying they're just trying to slash and
cut all of these federal jobs, even though we have
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no evidence that people who are air traffic controllers are
the ones that are getting shopped. So I don't know.
I guess it could go a variety of different ways there.
I guess my big thing here at forty five days,
I'd like to know that there's something substantial here, like
you have to prove it with a psychiatrist or something
of this trauma, because it's just too easy to say
I was there and this happened, we lost communication, radar
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went out, and I have trauma. I'd like forty five
paid days off, please consecutively. That's tough. It's tough anyho.
Thanks to take a part in the conversation today. We'll
let you know how things are going to go beyond that.
Also keeping tabs on what the conclave is. Do you
know what happens next? You know how long the longest
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conclave has been? You know, because they were one day
into this conclave they have no new pope. Do you
know the longest conclave, like the longest how many days
before they were able to finally get a pope.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I'd like to know the particulars of the conclave. Do
they order in? Do they have a chef on hand?
Do they all stay in the same place? Do they
you know, do they have sleeping quarters? Do they get
to go back to where they well, I guess that
they're all priests, right, so they're not like going back
to their family at night because they all have like
church communities that they I don't honestly know all the
inner workings, but he's curious about the you know what
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I think of as the OJ trial. And now this
is not to say that apples and oranges, but I'm
thinking about how the.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Catholic Church and OJ Simpson right.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Sounds like coming to a Netflix special near you. No,
this is apples and oranges. What I'm comparison comparison these
two as I create another word because I am a genius. Okay,
what I'm comparison here is the idea that people are
stuck in the same place for a long period of time,
having to become a census on a decision with a jury.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Right, yeah, yeah, They're stuck in the Sistine Chapel. So
the question isolated, So what are the particulars that you know?
Do they are there days structured or I'm sure it's
broken out into prayer and the meetings and to worship. Okay,
So and again I guess we're never going to know
exactly what goes on behind the scenes, but there is
no campaigning at least that's not allowed. But informal conversations
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can happen, but you can't campaign for one person or
yourself or for anything.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
There's no campaigning.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
No campaigning is allowed. You can have informal discussions, you
can talk about what's going on with your fellow cardinals,
but you can't campaign for someone or you can't campaign
for yourself. It's like remember when you do it for
like homecoming King or something. Just imagine that, except nobody
like can really say you should vote for somebody vote
for me. You can't say anything like that. So I
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just kind of left your own device to vote for
people without that kind of pressure.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
In this conclave. Is the future pope within the conclave?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Always, that's how it always works.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Uh does the pope?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So you're not really campaigning, but you probably are kind
of showing your chops a little.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Bit, right, Yeah, So let me uh okay, so here
you go. It is not officially required, but almost always
in practice, one of the cardinals does end up becoming
the pope, so it's not in writing that it has
to be that guy. But the last non cardinal elected
pope was Pope Urban the sixth you know when he
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took uh, he took the pope pope ship urban Urban
Urban like Keith Urban. Yeah, the sixth. Yeah he was.
He became pope in thirteen seventy eight. Oh yeah, he
was the last non cardinal. He was also the last
non Oh the last non priest which was elected pope
was Leo the tenth. That was in fifteen thirteen, back
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in the Monty Python days. He was ordained after the
election because he I mean, how could he not be
ordained and be the pope? That makes no sense. You're
gonna have to read more about this guy. By the way.
What happens, based on what I'm reading here, is the
enter the conclave by swearing an oath of secrecy. They
are locked in and live in the domas Saint day Marthe,
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which is nearby the Sistine Chapel during the process, so
they basically just go back and forth. You know what
conclave stands for. What it means?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh, it's an acronym.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It's not an acronym. Oh, it's what is it? It means
with a key? Oh, with a key, because they're locked in,
got it all right? Voting done in secret using a
paper ballots and a successful election requires two thirds majority,
and they will vote up to four times per day,
two in the morning and two in the afternoon. But
if you can't campaign, like what does this mean? Like
you like have this and then over time time is
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just like we don't write, Like what do we do?
What do we do with ourselves if we can't campaign,
Like how do we narrow down to like one or
two guys that they vote for or do people just
kind of like accidentally get pressure in the voting for
a different guy if their person doesn't get enough run
in the election. It seems like this could take a while. Well,
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guess what the longest conclave?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
How long are five days?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
How long?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Forty five days? Uh more? Sixty two days more, seventy
nine days, a lot more, one hundred and forty five days,
a lot more, five hundred and twelve and a half days.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
More, one thousand and six WHOA. The longest papal conclave
in history lasted almost three years November, from November twelve
sixty eight to September the first twelve seventy one, a
total of about one thousand and six days. Following the
death of Pope Clement the fourth in Viturbo, Italy. The
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College of Cardinals were divided deeply along political lines. Yeah,
also in pro French and pro Italian factions, and eventually
his local authorities locked the cardinals in and reduced their
rations and removed the roof of the building to force
them to come to a decision.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Oh, come on, there must have been something going on
in the outside world and they just wanted to stay
in there. The cardinal of them had a beef with somebody,
and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
The cardinals eventually elected Tiobaldo Visconti, who wasn't even a
cardinal at the time, and he became Pope Gregory the Tenth.
But because of the long process, Gregory the Tenth implemented
rules to streamline future conclaves, which included stricter isolation and
voting procedures, and that started basically the system that they
have now. Wow, there you go. By the way, if
you're a baptized Catholic mail in the world today, you're
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technically eligible to be the Pope. So get to getting
working and go get them Kiddo two forty eight, News
Radio eleven ten. More on this coming up on KFAB
and Maurice. He sung, Jeff, welcome to the show today.
What's up your mind?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
If you want to get all the answers to your
questions on Conclays, you have to watch a movie. They
did a very, very exacting job on recreating There's a
whole situation, and then they backed it up sixteen minutes
in an interview with Ralph Fines, and they did a
lot of research on how the conclave worked. And it
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was interesting deal. I'm an old Catholic and the things
that I knew came through and a lot of things
that I didn't know were interesting. But if you want
to tell your audience, go to the conclave, and they
don't answer all their questions, how they campaign, how they vote,
how they live, how they eat, you name it.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Okay, So the movie is that the movie Conclave?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yes, the movie is Conclave.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Okay, all right, I look into that. All right, Jeff,
thank you, I appreciate it. Good information. Thanks. Have you
seen that movie?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I have not. It would be interesting to do that.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It is a new movie. Okay, came out in twenty
twenty four. Oh really yeah, interesting dramatize yet notably accurate
portrayal of the papal election process.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
That would be interesting, now you know what?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, now I have to put that now, all of
a sudden, we now, all of a sudden, we have
a good reason to uh to look into this.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Who's in it?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Let me find out? Let me guess John Travolta in
conclave is a weird guess, but I stand by it.
In conclave. Let me put another guess out there. If
you don't think that's good, all right, go ahead, ben Stein,
all right, no, no, come on, an obviously Jewish guy. Seriously.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Oh I didn't think about that.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I'm sorry I was insensitive. I can keep guessing.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Ralph fien fien fienn finneen fen fein. Stanley Tucci, Oh sure, yeah,
Stanley Tucci shows up a random Stanley Tucci appearance, John
Lithgow liftgau, I think John lithgo and Isabella Rossolini, who
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I can almost guarantee you is not inside the conclave,
but she stars in it somehow. And I only say
this not to not to make make fun of this,
but just you know, women aren't generally you know cardinals. Uh,
by the way, the rotten tomatoes on this thing? Yeah
ninety three? Nice ninety three. It's good stuff. Apparently Prime
they didn't need John Travolta to make that a good movie.
(25:18):
Come at Prime Prime Video. Okay, that's uh, that's what
you got to look for, all right, I'll look into it.
I'm intrigued. This is good. It is good. Does seem
as though that the uh they're they're it does say.
It's very accurate, but there are some liberties that were taken,
as it has to. Right, it's Hollywood. What are you
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gonna do? All right? Got Sarah on the phone line
four O two five, five, eight to eleven ten. What
do you think, Sarah?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Hey, thank you for taking my call. Emory, I've seen
con Place twice. It's a riveting movie. It's very well done.
The music is amazing. It's actually race fine, fine, I think.
But because he was in the English patients patient years
and years ago. Yeah, and then John, let's go everybody
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it sini. It plays the nuns ahead nuns, But nuns
all come to take care of the cardinals, and they
do the kitchen things and do all the food, and
they make sure their rooms are ready and all that.
So they're very disturb and chiefs the top nouns taking,
you know, in charge of each other, nuns that they
are serving. They're serving, and they're supposed to be in visible.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's cool and I think yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
And my husband I he watched it with made the
second time. I have many friends who are Catholic. I myself,
I'm not Catholic. It it might be a little disturbing
to folks that are Catholics.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Okay, Sarah, I'm running out of time, but I appreciate
the call. Today we'll look into conclave on news radio
eleven ten kfa B
Do you like the idea of electing a pope or
should somebody just get like struck by lightning and that's
the guy.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, didn't they do? Like a experiment at Stanford back
in the seventies that tried that and it didn't go
so well.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I don't think we're supposed to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, it's true, we're still under that.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
You know what. Everybody's breaking the rules anyway, I'll talk
about it didn't go so well for those Stanford guys.
It's just you know who It did work for Marty McFly. Yeah,
things worked out pretty well for him. I think a
lot of it had to do with the fact that
he just knew what was going to happen when, because
you know, he had an unfair advantage coming from thirty
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years in the future. But alas the pope thing conclave
first round today, you know, all the cardinals, hundred and
fifty five of them, if you're counting and keep you
score at home, they have to I guess they talk
amongst themselves. How much campaigning do you think's going on? Right?
The pope is supposed to be selected by God, but
is he's selected by God through the cardinals? Like the
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cardinals just feel like they're told by God who they're
supposed to vote for, and then they all come to
different conclusions, and then they have to go through enough
like they have to go through enough rounds eventually to
where somebody gets the number necessary to become the next pope,
and then that guy's just the pope until he dies
or retires.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, that sounds right to me. I'm not totally sure
about the inner workings. They probably don't allow cameras in
the room, the decision room.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You know, you're right, it's very secretive, more secretive conclave
or the Masons, remember the you know the Masons, the
Free Masons. That those guys, Yeah, the guys with the G,
says a G. I never got that. My uncle was
a Free Mason and he wore a ring with the
G on it. I never understood what that was all about.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You probably couldn't tell you about it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I didn't ask. I just didn't care that much. Now
I care now, I wish I would have.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Did they have funny hats?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I think they they're supposed to. The Cardinals were funny hats.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, like you join a secret society and you don't
get a funny hat.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That's a pretty big letdown, is it. The water buffaloes
and the flintstones. They have the funny hats. The caaba
guys Caba cabba cabo.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
What is it? Cocoa coca cabana.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
No cabba. They were the little hats and.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
The coca coca caba.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Shout out to our guy. What's his face, Barry Manilo? Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Is that his?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah? Oh there it is, all right. So we're keeping
an eye on the pope thing. The black smoke more
iconic decision making process though, conclave what a word secretive.
Everybody's looking at a chimney and whether or not it's
black or white smoke. That's how we learn these things.
It's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, it's it's cool to be old school, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Iconic. It's a The black smoke is just like the
rolling out of the chimney there in the Vatican, the
Sistine Chapel. OHI. Anyway, yesterday we didn't talk too much
about this, did you know, uh, you know, their Newark
in Newark Liberty International Airport yesterday had an outage of radar.
We mentioned this kind of in passing, and this took
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place around the airport. We're talking about like some major
issues with airports, not that I've experienced. I flew The
only problem I have is by king of my stupid
ear to pop. But there have been some pretty noticeable
important issues that have been happening in airports and with
air travel around the United States in twenty twenty five,
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and the communication failure in with radar has led some
air traffic controllers a forty five day trauma leave. They're
going on a forty five day leave to deal with
personal mental trauma. Under the Federal Employees Compensation Act FECA,
air traffic controllers are entitled to a forty five day
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continuation of pay or trauma leave for mental health conditions
such as stress, anxiety, or post traumatic stress disorder from
an identifiable work related incident. And apparently with the communication
loss with some of these with their airplanes, their aircraft
the radar, you can think about how stressful that theoretically
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could be. Heck, when they have great communication, seemingly there's
issues that are abound. You know, remember the black Hawk
chopper that got up into the airspace of that American
Airlines flight. Remember that guy that was not paying any
attention and went through a runway and nearly cut off
a plane that ended up having to like bounce back
up into the air to avoid him.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Remember that guy Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That's the kind of thing, right, If I was an
aircraftic controller with full communication and that stuff was happening,
that frustrates the heck out of me. There's a lot
of responsibility in what I'm doing, and I'm still not
even getting good communication or the listening from the people
in the aircraft that we're supposed to be talking to.
Now you've taken out all of my communications. Now they
don't have radar, They have no idea where other planes
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are that who That could be a that could be
a problem anyway. Controllers at the Philadelphia Terminal Radar Approach
Control were so traumatized after temporarily losing communication with their
aircrafts that this past Monday they've also taken the forty
five day length leave of absence.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, they might have just been itching for it.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, honestly, like you
could take advantage of the system. This is a great opportunity,
but it does sound like a stressful job for whatever
it's worth.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
If you had a buddy in the biz and you
wanted to line yourself up with a nice lengthy vacation,
you can just time that thing out.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
What are you saying, I'm just thinking out loud some
of somebody like cuts communication on you, and you're just like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Saying, I'm positing. I'm positing the wild rogue and clearly
wrong theory that maybe all of this was a ruse
for somebody to cash in on forty five days straight.
And he had a buddy on the inside who helped
him out. He said, I'll cut the radar. See, you'll
go crazy, See you'll lose your marble see. And the
guy he's like, you know, that idea is dumb enough
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to work. It's like Moe and Larry figuring out how
they're gonna get Curly's rotten tooth out of his mouth
so he can finally sleep through the night.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Forty five days. Huh. Yeah, well, well that's that's exciting.
I'm happy to happy to hear that. Anyway, if you
got thoughts on this forty five day leave of absence,
crazy enough to work, crazy enough to uh, what would
it take at your job for you to be entitled
you think of forty five days of a leave of absence,
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essentially for mental health purposes. I have a couple of
things that would get me to that point. We'll share
that and if you want to call us four oh
two five five eight to eleven ten. Four oh two,
five five eight to eleven ten. You're listening to news
radio eleven ten kfab And again, I don't know if
my strategy is improved from last year, trying to get
more orange and try to get more fresh jelly out
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on a day to day basis, But I haven't personally
seen an oriole, which is mildly frustrating. I just don't
think it's a good spot on my block. It really isn't. Anyway,
appreciate the note, Georget I guess I'm going to have
to go to a park and see some more for myself. Anyway,
You over there, Matt Case, Let's say something work related happens,
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you potentially would be entitled to forty five days leave
of absence, but it's got to be something work related
that could leave you some mental trauma, that's for sure.
What would it take for you to be able to
take on that forty five day leave of absence. What
would be traumatic enough to where you think that you
could get away with the claim in your forty five days?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
What a question? I know, right, I don't know, but
that does sound nice. Forty five days. What would I
do for those forty five days? You know what I'd do? Huh?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well, first of all, you know, it would be traumatic
enough for me to do that. Somebody's saying a bad
word on the air and us not catching it, eh,
and with us getting in like big trouble. But then
we found out we actually did catch it. It was
like a close call. Though, I might have to like
call in for my forty five days. Oh, I was
so close. So we were so close to like a
ten thousand dollars fine or was it thirty seven five
hundred dollars or something like that. We have to take it.
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You'd have to take training that tells us this. Yeah, okay,
so forty five days. I how much does it cost
to live in the Bahamas for forty five days?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You want to ask Chad Gpt, is.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
There a key west spot that's open? Because he don't
give you any money. No, you just make the money.
You get the money that you would. Well, yeah, so
it's with paid, paid leave. Yeah, it's like you were
doing it's like you're working. See, you probably don't want
to do anything too crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Why not? Well, I'm just I'm thinking for myself here.
I wouldn't be able to do anything too crazy because
it wouldn't it's not like I'm getting a windfall of cash.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well let me see here, let me see here. How
much does it cost to live in Bahamas for forty
five days? Okay, general breakdown, Uh, you'll need forty five
hundred dollars for hotel or hostels. Potentially you could maybe
get away with like twenty five hundred. If you find
budget places like hostels, groceries, you're gonna need about seven
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hundred to one thousand dollars. Blah blah blah. Low end
you need eight thousand dollars. Mid end or high end
fifteen to eighteen thousand dollars. Do you have that much money?
I don't. I don't have that much money.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Not expendably.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
No, I don't think I could. I don't think I
spend that. Joe says, the only thing traumatic enough to
take forty five days off of work and get paid
for it is death. I don't think Joe's a fan
of these air traffic controllers getting to claim forty five
days of paid leave for mental trauma. How does this
help anything? By the way, right, can we ask that question?
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What does a forty five day paid leave do to
help any of these people? I'm sure it's a stressful job,
but maybe take a couple of days off, regroup and
come back to work.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Well.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
But yeah, but you know, you think about these kind
of things. You know how people in sports sometimes they
need a sports psychologist because they got the yips. Yeah,
like a pitcher who just can't seem to hit the
plate anymore. What if a pilot, after something like this,
the next time he drops the landing gear, all of
a sudden, he gets all sweating and he's like, you know,
he has PTSD, starts thinking about the last time.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But we're not talking what about pilots. We're talking about
the air traffic controllers. You know, the pilot, all right.
I don't want anybody that's got a little bit of
case of the yips or lack of confidence flying a
plane that's carrying two hundred people on it. That seems
like a bad idea too. But air traffic controllers something
that happened beyond your control. You had to try to
help people navigate best you can with no radar. Oh,
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and sometimes your full communication goes out. How does you
taking six weeks off for more help any of this?
Is that not a fair question to ask? Take a
couple of days, take a deep breath, get your marbles
back together, and let's let's get you back to work. Remember,
I thought, wasn't everybody complaining about the fact that you
have less air traffic controllers than we need right now
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in airports across America?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Wouldn't robots do a better job anyways?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
How would a robot be able to help these people?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I was saying, they do better at controlling traffic, and
they wouldn't need forty five days if something went wrong
at the office.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Okay, so how would a robot do this?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Though?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Is radar a robot? So the robot radar goes out? Well,
how could robots on the ground and air traffic control
help resolve this issue? You're right, they wouldn't need the
forty five days, but I'm not so sure they'd be
able to function. You know, sometimes the robots mess up.
Sometimes our computer crashes, and that computer right there crashed
one day and I couldn't log into it. Remember that,
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Remember it wasn't allowed letting us log in. Yeah, and
we couldn't hit play like we couldn't like play the
next thing.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, I was busted. Needed a hard reboot.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And so I just had to sit here and just
like monologue while we figured the problem out. What if
I wasn't here.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Well the plane would just have to taxi until we
rebooted the system.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, yes, what I think I'm deserved of forty five
days of paid leave for the anxiety that that caused me.
I wasn't ready to talk on the radio yet.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well, I think uh statute of limitations has passed. We'll
have to wait for that to happen again.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Oh come on, I might not be able to live
in the Bahamas, but I can live in Omaha. I
can go camping. Maybe that's what I need to do,
really refresh my senses. Something crazy happens to me at work,
I take forty five days of paid leave. Could you imagine,
by the way, offering this Peral Employees Compensation Act and
titles into a forty five day continuation of pay or
trauma leave for mental health conditions? How do you even
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diagnose that? Probably a licensed therapist. Yeah, but could you
pay them off too? Oh so we're going that side
of things. That's what I'm saying, Like, could you like
you're talking about like, hey, you got a guy on
the inside, let's see if we can't mess around and
knock out radar so I can claim forty five days
of paid leave.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Well, I was just talking silly. I think that would
be a pretty convoluted plot.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
But I'm also saying that it's not out of the
realm of possibility. If you have a friend, I mean,
what is stress or anxiety? How do you get diagnosed
with something like that? That you have to have the symptoms? Yeah,
but how do you show the symptoms? Couldn't you fake those?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well I talked about to have them and they have
to be impacting your life in a negative way.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, but what if I said that they were Well,
anybody can say anything. And that's what I'm saying. How
does a therapist know different. It's not like you can
take my blood pressure and all of a sudden it's like, oh, yeah,
you got stress.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well that that is an indicator.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It can be, But what if my blood pressure is
normal and I still sam stressed out. Are you not
going to believe me? Do I need to feign a
medical condition just so I get my forty five days
of paid leave?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah? I don't. I would be interesting to see how
they break that out and what they do to, you know,
check the validity of the claims. I don't know. It'd
be interesting to see what their system is on that.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
All right, I'm gonna ask what this Federal Employees Compensation
Act with what workers get forty five days off for
trauma leave in the Federal Employees Compensation Act? And yeah,
so this is any federal civilian employees like postal workers, TSA, agents,
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IRS employees, But the injury must be traumatic. But this
this is like for this is like for physical injuries
and not mental health, which is what these people are saying.
Does it count if it's mental health? I mean it
obviously does, but I'm just curious. But mental health conditions
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you qualify, but not for usually the entire forty five
days of continuation of pay. So there you go. I
have no idea. But they say if there is a sudden,
identifiable incident and they immediately suffer psychological trauma, they might
qualify for the cop. They say, it's very uncommon. However,
you would have to file a Form CA one for
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traumatic injury and have strong medical evidence from a psychiatrist
or a psychologist. So there we go. We will come
back if you want to call in you got some
thoughts on this forty five days of medical leave, or
if you're interested in talking about what these people are
going on, feel free to hit me up. Four oh two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten is the phone number, and we'll chat with
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you next on news radio eleven tin KFAB and raised
on there. So we've had we've had some emails here
about this. Had U this person sending in this email
he said, if you need forty five days to take
off for any sort of incident, you probably shouldn't be
in that field. Fair, fair point. Nah, I disagree, all right,
So what what in like forty five days?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I had another email from Gina said, knowing that potentially
hundreds of people could be killed because of a lack
of a communication and you know you're sitting there, I
would bet that that would put people in a position
where they would think pretty badly. It may not be
their fault, but imagine the grief and the horror. I
could see that forty five days though when it wasn't
had nothing to do with you or anything that you did.
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You were just there. I don't know, what do you think, Well.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
They had a good union.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
This is these are the federal workers right that Donald
Trump and Elon Musk are trying to, you know, figure
out who is doing what. I wonder if there are
any political implications of this. Right people are looking at
the airline industry, in the airplane industry, flights aviation in general,
air traffic controllers. It's a bit more complicated. It's a
bit more complex, isn't it. And I don't exactly know
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how to line it up on a like a job
to job basis, But people are saying air traffic controllers,
that's one of the big problems. We just don't have
enough people. We just don't have enough staffers. So you
have to make it a good enough job for people
to want it. But then you also have our current government,
which people are saying they're just trying to slash and
cut all of these federal jobs, even though we have
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no evidence that people who are air traffic controllers are
the ones that are getting shopped. So I don't know.
I guess it could go a variety of different ways there.
I guess my big thing here at forty five days,
I'd like to know that there's something substantial here, like
you have to prove it with a psychiatrist or something
of this trauma, because it's just too easy to say
I was there and this happened, we lost communication, radar
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went out, and I have trauma. I'd like forty five
paid days off, please consecutively. That's tough. It's tough anyho.
Thanks to take a part in the conversation today. We'll
let you know how things are going to go beyond that.
Also keeping tabs on what the conclave is. Do you
know what happens next? You know how long the longest
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conclave has been? You know, because they were one day
into this conclave they have no new pope. Do you
know the longest conclave, like the longest how many days
before they were able to finally get a pope.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I'd like to know the particulars of the conclave. Do
they order in? Do they have a chef on hand?
Do they all stay in the same place? Do they
you know, do they have sleeping quarters? Do they get
to go back to where they well, I guess that
they're all priests, right, so they're not like going back
to their family at night because they all have like
church communities that they I don't honestly know all the
inner workings, but he's curious about the you know what
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I think of as the OJ trial. And now this
is not to say that apples and oranges, but I'm
thinking about how the.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Catholic Church and OJ Simpson right.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Sounds like coming to a Netflix special near you. No,
this is apples and oranges. What I'm comparison comparison these
two as I create another word because I am a genius. Okay,
what I'm comparison here is the idea that people are
stuck in the same place for a long period of time,
having to become a census on a decision with a jury.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Right, yeah, yeah, They're stuck in the Sistine Chapel. So
the question isolated, So what are the particulars that you know?
Do they are there days structured or I'm sure it's
broken out into prayer and the meetings and to worship. Okay,
So and again I guess we're never going to know
exactly what goes on behind the scenes, but there is
no campaigning at least that's not allowed. But informal conversations
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can happen, but you can't campaign for one person or
yourself or for anything.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
There's no campaigning.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
No campaigning is allowed. You can have informal discussions, you
can talk about what's going on with your fellow cardinals,
but you can't campaign for someone or you can't campaign
for yourself. It's like remember when you do it for
like homecoming King or something. Just imagine that, except nobody
like can really say you should vote for somebody vote
for me. You can't say anything like that. So I
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just kind of left your own device to vote for
people without that kind of pressure.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
In this conclave. Is the future pope within the conclave?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Always, that's how it always works.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Uh does the pope?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So you're not really campaigning, but you probably are kind
of showing your chops a little.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Bit, right, Yeah, So let me uh okay, so here
you go. It is not officially required, but almost always
in practice, one of the cardinals does end up becoming
the pope, so it's not in writing that it has
to be that guy. But the last non cardinal elected
pope was Pope Urban the sixth you know when he
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took uh, he took the pope pope ship urban Urban
Urban like Keith Urban. Yeah, the sixth. Yeah he was.
He became pope in thirteen seventy eight. Oh yeah, he
was the last non cardinal. He was also the last
non Oh the last non priest which was elected pope
was Leo the tenth. That was in fifteen thirteen, back
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in the Monty Python days. He was ordained after the
election because he I mean, how could he not be
ordained and be the pope? That makes no sense. You're
gonna have to read more about this guy. By the way.
What happens, based on what I'm reading here, is the
enter the conclave by swearing an oath of secrecy. They
are locked in and live in the domas Saint day Marthe,
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which is nearby the Sistine Chapel during the process, so
they basically just go back and forth. You know what
conclave stands for. What it means?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh, it's an acronym.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It's not an acronym. Oh, it's what is it? It means
with a key? Oh, with a key, because they're locked in,
got it all right? Voting done in secret using a
paper ballots and a successful election requires two thirds majority,
and they will vote up to four times per day,
two in the morning and two in the afternoon. But
if you can't campaign, like what does this mean? Like
you like have this and then over time time is
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just like we don't write, Like what do we do?
What do we do with ourselves if we can't campaign,
Like how do we narrow down to like one or
two guys that they vote for or do people just
kind of like accidentally get pressure in the voting for
a different guy if their person doesn't get enough run
in the election. It seems like this could take a while. Well,
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guess what the longest conclave?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
How long are five days?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
How long?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Forty five days? Uh more? Sixty two days more, seventy
nine days, a lot more, one hundred and forty five days,
a lot more, five hundred and twelve and a half days.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
More, one thousand and six WHOA. The longest papal conclave
in history lasted almost three years November, from November twelve
sixty eight to September the first twelve seventy one, a
total of about one thousand and six days. Following the
death of Pope Clement the fourth in Viturbo, Italy. The
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College of Cardinals were divided deeply along political lines. Yeah,
also in pro French and pro Italian factions, and eventually
his local authorities locked the cardinals in and reduced their
rations and removed the roof of the building to force
them to come to a decision.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Oh, come on, there must have been something going on
in the outside world and they just wanted to stay
in there. The cardinal of them had a beef with somebody,
and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
The cardinals eventually elected Tiobaldo Visconti, who wasn't even a
cardinal at the time, and he became Pope Gregory the Tenth.
But because of the long process, Gregory the Tenth implemented
rules to streamline future conclaves, which included stricter isolation and
voting procedures, and that started basically the system that they
have now. Wow, there you go. By the way, if
you're a baptized Catholic mail in the world today, you're
(22:40):
technically eligible to be the Pope. So get to getting
working and go get them Kiddo two forty eight, News
Radio eleven ten. More on this coming up on KFAB
and Maurice. He sung, Jeff, welcome to the show today.
What's up your mind?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
If you want to get all the answers to your
questions on Conclays, you have to watch a movie. They
did a very, very exacting job on recreating There's a
whole situation, and then they backed it up sixteen minutes
in an interview with Ralph Fines, and they did a
lot of research on how the conclave worked. And it
(23:16):
was interesting deal. I'm an old Catholic and the things
that I knew came through and a lot of things
that I didn't know were interesting. But if you want
to tell your audience, go to the conclave, and they
don't answer all their questions, how they campaign, how they vote,
how they live, how they eat, you name it.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Okay, So the movie is that the movie Conclave?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yes, the movie is Conclave.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Okay, all right, I look into that. All right, Jeff,
thank you, I appreciate it. Good information. Thanks. Have you
seen that movie?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I have not. It would be interesting to do that.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It is a new movie. Okay, came out in twenty
twenty four. Oh really yeah, interesting dramatize yet notably accurate
portrayal of the papal election process.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
That would be interesting, now you know what?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, now I have to put that now, all of
a sudden, we now, all of a sudden, we have
a good reason to uh to look into this.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Who's in it?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Let me find out? Let me guess John Travolta in
conclave is a weird guess, but I stand by it.
In conclave. Let me put another guess out there. If
you don't think that's good, all right, go ahead, ben Stein,
all right, no, no, come on, an obviously Jewish guy. Seriously.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Oh I didn't think about that.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I'm sorry I was insensitive. I can keep guessing.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Ralph fien fien fienn finneen fen fein. Stanley Tucci, Oh sure, yeah,
Stanley Tucci shows up a random Stanley Tucci appearance, John
Lithgow liftgau, I think John lithgo and Isabella Rossolini, who
(24:57):
I can almost guarantee you is not inside the conclave,
but she stars in it somehow. And I only say
this not to not to make make fun of this,
but just you know, women aren't generally you know cardinals. Uh,
by the way, the rotten tomatoes on this thing? Yeah
ninety three? Nice ninety three. It's good stuff. Apparently Prime
they didn't need John Travolta to make that a good movie.
(25:18):
Come at Prime Prime Video. Okay, that's uh, that's what
you got to look for, all right, I'll look into it.
I'm intrigued. This is good. It is good. Does seem
as though that the uh they're they're it does say.
It's very accurate, but there are some liberties that were taken,
as it has to. Right, it's Hollywood. What are you
(25:39):
gonna do? All right? Got Sarah on the phone line
four O two five, five, eight to eleven ten. What
do you think, Sarah?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Hey, thank you for taking my call. Emory, I've seen
con Place twice. It's a riveting movie. It's very well done.
The music is amazing. It's actually race fine, fine, I think.
But because he was in the English patients patient years
and years ago. Yeah, and then John, let's go everybody
(26:07):
it sini. It plays the nuns ahead nuns, But nuns
all come to take care of the cardinals, and they
do the kitchen things and do all the food, and
they make sure their rooms are ready and all that.
So they're very disturb and chiefs the top nouns taking,
you know, in charge of each other, nuns that they
are serving. They're serving, and they're supposed to be in visible.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's cool and I think yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
And my husband I he watched it with made the
second time. I have many friends who are Catholic. I myself,
I'm not Catholic. It it might be a little disturbing
to folks that are Catholics.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Okay, Sarah, I'm running out of time, but I appreciate
the call. Today we'll look into conclave on news radio
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