Trump vs Tucker

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The truth and everything important in Omaha and beyond. Here's
Emory Songer on news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hello there, Tuesday, Wow, very crazy. Do you know what
it is today, Scott Voorhes Tuesday? Yeah, it's also according
to the United Nations World Day to Combat Desertification and Drought.
Essentially is I.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Know what drought is?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, just like what can we do? Like they apparently
have a bunch of things that we can do even
here about how to help places that have become deserts
over time.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, put them in the path of the College World
Series rainstorms. They'll green right up. Mmm.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Now see now you're thinking in four D chess, Yeah,
you called it four twenty was when they put that
game into a delay last night or seven twenty Yeah, yeah,
And just like okay, fair enough. And because you had
seen a forecast, you know, you thought seven to eight
somewhere in there. I was thinking maybe we can get
through that first There was no way we were like

(01:10):
through three innings or something like that. So anyway, LSU
finished that off, they win nine to five. They are safe.
Arkansas has to hang around and play again tonight against
or sorry, UCLA has to hang around and play Arkansas tonight.
Of course, Arkansas is coming off that crazy not hitter yesterday.
So the game going on right now, just first inning

(01:33):
Oregon State in Louisville, an elimination game on the Coastal
Carolina side of the bracket. Coastal Carolina will play the
winner of that tomorrow at one o'clock. So something to
keep in mind, something to watch. Pay attention to. Man,
you were on the air this morning. Yep, I was
on the air this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Thanks for listening.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, you aren't listening.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
You're just vaguely aware that I do other things for
the radio.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
You were in here at the same time I was
on mine. Yeah, So even doing this longer than me,
can you kind of like, have you been around a
story that seems to be kind of changing and morphing
and you have kind of competing viewpoints or competing sources
that are talking about different things that are happening, like

(02:20):
on a minute to minute basis. I don't know if
I've done anything in this situation to this point, and
I mean in my short radio career that it just
feels like I have a tough handle on the latest
information on a minute to minute basis.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I think you've described a lot of news over especially
the past five to ten years, the Trump era, because
it's depending on who you go to for your news source,
you're gonna see wildly different things. But then with the
prevalence of people get in their news on social media,
the news source is some guy I've never heard of
who said something crazy that I'm not taking his gospel truth,

(03:01):
and I'm going to forward that along to my followers,
and then my followers see it and go, oh, well,
he wouldn't send that up if he hadn't checked it,
And next thing, you know, everyone believes it to be true.
So have I seen this kind of thing every single day?
What specifically are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well, it's just, you know, it's like so Trump it
says that he's not giving the green light to do
this attack, and he told Israel not to do it,
and then all of a sudden, it's just like no,
Trump absolutely knew that this was happening, and you know,
gave the green light and said that, hey, Israel's got
to do what they got to do. And then we
have reports that are saying, well, Donald Trump is not

(03:39):
to a point of saying that he is going to
be supporting Israel directly in the Middle East, and then
a few minutes later, it's a different source that comes
out and says Donald Trump is absolutely working on trying
to find a way to move some more you know,
resources to the Middle East and be a part of
this thing. I mean, it just feels like I have
you know, there's one hundred different news outlets, and it

(04:01):
feels like three or four of them are getting completely
different information on a minute to minute basis, and they're
all competing for my attention at the same time.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
And they might be getting it from President Trump himself.
Because now that you've describe what it is that you're
looking at and going, I don't know what this is,
I can filter this through the trumpy kaleidoscope that I
bring with me in the studio every single day. And
that is when President Trump says A, he really wants

(04:27):
C and will settle for somewhere around B. But he's
gonna keep saying A. So when he says something like, hey,
Israel did this on their owns. I didn't know that
they're gonna do this, but Iran better watch out. They
better make a deal, I don't believe him. Just like
when he starts a negotiation and says, all right, I
want the sun and the moon and the stars. Well,

(04:48):
you know he doesn't believe that, but he'll settle for
some variation thereof when he says, I didn't you know,
I talked to net and Yahuhuo give me at heads up.
I said, don't do this, don't do that. You know,
they do what they want. I don't believe that. I
believe that this is all part of how President Trump negotiates.
What does he actually want? He wants Iran to stop

(05:11):
enriching uranium to make nuclear weapons and threatening Israel and
the United States. And I think he's prepared to do
that by any means necessary, if it means being a
little cagey, shall we say, in his diplomatic statements as
to what may or may not happen with Israel and
Iran and so forth, then I think that's how he's
going about doing this. He's done the same thing with

(05:31):
tariffsin and even this week. What might happen with immigration rates?
And maybe we should spare those in the fields and
in the hospitality industries. And then it was and never mind,
get in there and get everyone anywhere. I think this
is all still a negotiation tactic. And what the media
does is they rush too quickly to try and either

(05:52):
take Trump at his word, which I have a hard
time completely blaming them for, or they want to create
their own narrative and they're gonna say something that Trump
said that they know not to be one hundred percent
true or what he wants, but they're going to pass
that off. And then when he says it does me
completely different. Oh, this man is an absolute train wreck.
It's a dumpster fire on display.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
So I got four sources with four different things that
are reported in the last ninety minutes, and I'm just
going to read these things like one by one just
to tell you kind of like the scramble that my
brain is in as I'm waiting for like hard facts
and evidence of what's happening eight thousand miles away, which,
of course, you know, just fifty years ago we probably
wouldn't have had much information about that at all in
the first place. This one from Axios, Trump is meeting

(06:36):
with his National Security Council in the situation Room, reportedly
to decide whether to strike Iran or not. I seem
to believe that I feel like there's a lot of
kind of echoes that that's what's happening right.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Now, Ixios, that was Axios, I questioned the source.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Okay, Wall Street Journal, Israeli intelligence reportedly showed Iran is
working on a trigger useful for a nuclear bomb, but
the US believes Iran has not decided to build a
nuclear weapon, and Trump says Tehran is very close. So
it seems like even the US intelligence and Donald Trump
are not on the same wavelength based on what the

(07:09):
Wall Street Journal is saying.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
What the Wall Street Journal is saying, Look, you can
take Iran at their own word. They want to make
a nuclear weapon and they want to blow Israel off
of the globe if followed by the United States. So
I mean, the Wall Street Journal can report what they want.
Just what has Israel or what has Iran said and
done continuously for our entire lifetimes.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
And then Fox says US is moving more fighter jets
to the Middle East, which I mean, that would make
sense if we're talking about this, if they make a decision,
you'd like to have the pieces in place to be
able to execute whatever you're deciding to do. And then
CNN says Trump has become more inclined to strike Iran's
nuclear facilities. So there are four different sources on four

(07:50):
kind of different aspects of the exact same story, and
we have to discern exactly what is or isn't what
is happening on a moment to moment basis. So here's
that's what I'm gonna do. I got the news on
I got another screen on my computer here that is
following the news very you know, hardcore. If anything super
crazy happens in the next three hours and forty five minutes,

(08:12):
I am going to be able to tell you about
it as it's happening, that's good. What I'm also going
to do now, however, is talk about the fracturing of
what seems to be the Donald Trump bass, the Make
America Great Again or MAGA bass. And that includes people
in Congress. That includes people who are you know, what

(08:33):
we thought were big allies of Donald Trump versus you know,
people who were already adamantly opposed to what he was
going to try to bring to the table. And a
couple of these people include Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannett,
who were talking about this on a show yesterday, and
then what Donald Trump said about Tucker Carlson as well.

(08:54):
I will get to that and let you listen to
the audio itself when we come back on news radio
eleven ten kfab. Donald Trump a couple hours ago, put
on his True Socials, said we know exactly where the
so called Supreme Leader is hiding. He has an easy target,
but he is safe there. We are not going to
take him out, at least not for now. But we
don't want missiles shot at civilians or American soldiers. Our

(09:15):
patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to
this matter. And he followed that up with all caps
unconditional surrender. Okay, so I mean those seem to be
I guess two things that are sort of along the
same tracks. Trump also a couple hours ago said we
have we now have complete and total control over the

(09:37):
skies over Iran. Iran had good skytrackers and other defensive
equipment and plenty of it. But it doesn't compare to
the American maid conceived and manufactured stuff that he put
in quotes stuff. Nobody does it better than the good
old USA. Okay, well, yesterday a couple of people who

(09:58):
I think we have kind of you know, kind of
felt that are as close to Donald Trump as far
as ally is concerned in the media as anybody else.
And that's Sucker Carlson and Steve Bannon. Well, Steve Bannon,
you're gonna hear too much of him on this and
I'm not really sure exactly where he stands too awful
much on some of this stuff. But Tucker Carlson was
on Steve Bannon's show yesterday, The War Room, and talked

(10:21):
about this pretty I mean pretty freely, pretty frankly. And
this first clip is if people are about to listen
to what Tucker says about US getting involved with Israel?
Is he anti Israel? Whether or not you.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Believe in Christianity, whether or not you're a Christian, it
doesn't matter. It is true that people who espouse violence
suffer in the end.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
They do.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
I have seen it a lot, and I grew up
in a world that have espoused violence. That's what the
US government does. My dad was involved in it, and
I just believe that. And maybe you don't believe. That's fine,
that is my core belief. I sincerely think that. But
why the hate towards someone is just like, hey, I'm
not I'm hard if you think And I said this
to it is really official. If you think I'm anti Israel, man,

(11:12):
you are your looks the plot son. If you think
I'm your enemy, not at all. I like Israel, Are
you kidding? I've spent a lot of time there. I
continue to like it. I pray that Jerusalem is not damaged.
I feel so sad for the Israelis who've been killed
in the last couple of days and the Iranians who've
been killed in the last couple days. We had nothing
to do with any of this. But the point is,

(11:34):
if you think that saying, hey, let's focus on my
country where I was born, where my family's been for
hundreds of years, that was the promise of the last selection,
please do it. If you think that's hate, you know
you've really lost perspective, I guess, is what I would say.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
That is Tucker Carlson speaking to Steve Bannon on his
show War Room. He followed this up. The next thing
is kind of just a more direct answer. You know,
he's talking to America. First. We'll get to that. Donald
Trump had something to say about all this when he
was alerted to it. But here's Tucker Carlson talking about
what the potential consequences would be to the legacy of
Donald Trump and to the United States if we did

(12:14):
get directly involved in this war with Iran.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
I actually really love Trump. I think he's a deeply humane,
kind person. And I am saying this because I'm really
afraid that my country's going to be further weakened by this.
I think we're going to see the end of American empire. Obviously,
other nations would like to see that, and this is
a perfect way to scuttle the USS America on the

(12:37):
shoals of Iran. But it's also going to end I
believe Trump's presidency and effectively end it. And so that's
why I'm saying, what do you mean by that's that's
coming for you?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
That you get.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Look, I knew Bush. I knew George W. Bush with
you know, family connections to Bush. I knew Bush personally.
I still see Bush sometimes and you know, of course
he hates me, and he does because I criticized him
on a rock and that war is the sum total
from historical perspective of his administration. But I knew him,

(13:09):
and he had all kinds of plans for the things
that he wanted to do. But one domestically, domestically to
improve the country. And you may agree or disagree, but
like in his mind, he wasn't just about the invasion
of Iraq in March of Oh no, No, he was going
to redo social Security, he was going to take care
of the entitlements issue. And he really thought it was
going to work. And you could laugh at that or whatever,

(13:31):
but the point is, the second you get himmeshed in
a real war, not a fake, let's go bomb the
villagers and declare success. Though we don't even have a
good track record, like Whyle the Hooth, he's still there.
I mean, there's a whole other question, which is how
prepared is the US military for a real conflict? And
the answer is totally unprepared, scary unprepared. I don't think
people understand that. But anyway, the only reason I'm saying

(13:54):
any of this is because I really really care.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
So that's Tucker carlse you heard Seve Bannon kind of
asked him a couple of follow ups there and just
clarification as he's talking about this. The only thing that
I can tell you based on this is there's no
doubt that Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump are on opposite
sides of the way they're looking at this, and Tucker
Carlson is really going out of his way to make

(14:20):
it very clear what he thinks could happen to the
United States if this were to escalate further. Now, Donald Trump,
this happened yesterday. I mean, this show was taking place
yesterday morning and afternoon. They also Seve Bannon was Tucker's
guest on his show yesterday also, so they kind of
swapped spots and did each other show with each other. Well,

(14:43):
of course, the press is alerted yesterday that Tucker Carlson
is saying some stuff about, hey, we shouldn't be doing
any of this stuff. This guy's your ally. A lot
of people think that Tucker Carlson was vital to getting
Donald Trump's reputation to where it is with conservatives in
America right now. You can argue that if you'd like,
but I feel like most people respect what Tucker Carlson

(15:05):
says from a conservative standpoint. Well, while Donald Trump was
talking with reporters next to Keir Starmer from the United Kingdom,
the Prime Minister of the UK, they were announcing the
official paperwork has done on that trade deal. They announced
a few weeks ago or whatever, and they were taking questions.
Trump standing next to Keir Starmer and he's finishing answering

(15:26):
one question here. But you'll hear a reporter come in
and say, hey, what about what Tucker Carlson said about Iran?
And take a listen.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
They've been talking about.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
This deal for six years, which is and he's done
what they have been able to do. So he's done
really a very good job.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying. Let him
go get a television network and say it so that
people listen.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Okay, all right, Okay, that's a bit of a different
kind of attitude Trump toward Tucker Carlson. Then we are
used to seeing or you know, hearing from him. Shortly thereafter,
I'm guessing he jumped on his plane heading back to
the United States or he yeah, that dinner or whatever
last night. But his people got in new his ear
and he said on his truth social yesterday evening, somebody

(16:14):
please explain to kooky Tucker Carlson that Iran cannot have
a nuclear weapon. America first means many great things, including
the fact that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Make
America great. Again. Wow, Okay, I mean this is a

(16:36):
guy that Tucker Carlson. We haven't even done six months
of this presidency yet. I have to remind you this
is a four year term. Somebody else, Like if I
gave you like a Schmorgesborg of names that are in
Congress that you might recognize, and I give you like
a political map and said, hey, put these guys on
the map. I give you Bernie Sanders and he'll put

(16:58):
it to the far left, and I give you somebody
like Mitch McConnell and it'll probably be somewhere center center right.
And then I give you Marjorie Taylor Green. You're probably thinking,
I mean, this is as Trumpian as a person is.
You know, not to say that she doesn't understand politics,
but can you name me a piece of legislation that
she has kind of authored and pushed through. No, but

(17:20):
she is incredibly notable because she gets in front of cameras,
She is very demonstrative. She does a lot of big
videos and stuff on our social media to get attention,
and she is very Trumpian in that way and supports
Donald Trump through and through well. She posted this on
her social media last night and said it's a picture
of her and Tucker Carlson laughing together, and she said,

(17:40):
Tucker Carlson is one of my favorite people. He fiercely
loves his wife, children, and our country. Since being fired
from the neocon network Fox News, he has more popularity
and viewers than ever before. He unapologetically believes the same
things I do. That if we don't fight for our
own country and our own people, then we will no
longer have a country for our children and our grandchildren.

(18:01):
And foreign wars, intervention, regime change put America last, kill
innocent people and making us broke, and they will lead
to our destruction. That's not kooky. That's what millions of
Americans voted for. It's what we believe is America First.
A true fracture happening here amongst the Republicans in Congress

(18:22):
about what Donald Trump's viewpoints are on what's happening in
the Middle East. Now, I got some other things I'm
gonna play and mention to you. If you'd like to
be a part of the conversation. The phone lines are open.
Call us A four h two five five eight eleven ten.
Four H two five five eight eleven ten. Do you
agree with Tucker Carlson, do you think Donald Trump is
going too far in Iran? Do you think that Donald
Trump is in the right and you think Tucker Carlson

(18:42):
needs to shut his trap? Love to hear from you?
Four oh two, five five eight, eleven ten, News Radio
eleven ten kfab Donald Trump says Tucker Carlson needs to
get on a TV channel if he wants anybody to
hear what he asks to say. We got so we
got some old school kind of bromance dying like one
at a time, Scott. I know you're familiar with these
characters that we're talking about here. Yeah, your thoughts. I mean,

(19:06):
we're not quite five months into this presidency, and now
all of a sudden, Tucker Carlson's on the outs.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I had a conversation during Trump's well before the Iowa caucus,
his first run for the presidency, and I was talking
to Donald Trump Junior.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
He's sound of like twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, And I said, what about everything that they're saying
about your dad and everything that's going on here, what
does any of it actually get to you? Does any
of it bother you? And he and his dad and
Eric Trump, they're all kind of cut from the same
cloth when it comes to political feelings and emotions. And

(19:41):
he actually answered the question, you know, I threw it
out there in case I got something. I thought he
was going to say, Nah, they can say whatever they want.
It doesn't bother me.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
He said.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
The thing that bothers me, and it bothers my family
is all the comments against my dad and against my
family from members of the media who we considered friends.
He started talking to me, he named like Scarborough for example,
like we've been over to his house and for a
long time there all these people in media are all
very friendly with my dad. And then he decided to

(20:10):
run for the presidency as a Republican, and suddenly he's
the second coming to Hitler and all the rest of
this stuff. But he admitted that stuff bothers us. So
now we fast forward to Tucker Carlson, who was a
big Fox big Fox News voice, big Trump supporter, very
friendly with President Trump. And then the text messages came out.

(20:31):
Remember all that this is Tucker saying not very nice
things about President Trump. He got leaked out there. President
Trump certainly saw it, and he goes, here's another one.
Here's another member of the media. It's going to act
like my friend and then behind my back. These are
the kind of things they say about me or even
out to the public. These are the kind of things
they say about me. And so I'm not surprised by

(20:52):
Trump responding in that way, you know, a pithy comment
like that, Hey tell me get on a network. People
actually hear what he has to say. That is, that's
very trumpy. But I think it comes from that standpoint
of we're tired of opening up. You know, we we
don't have to talk to these members of the media,
but tired of open up to these guys, giving them
access and then being treated like this.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well, and I suggest this, so that came out what
that was like right in the first like few months
that I was here. I think the Tucker Carlson text messages,
and Tucker had Donald Trump back on his program as
you know, like he went on Tucker's show instead of
doing one of those early debates, remember that, and like,

(21:37):
so that would have just been like shortly there after that,
but Tucker was so I mean, he's visible, he's showing up,
he's moderating these types of things. And Steve Vannon, certainly,
I don't think Steve really said anything that would, you know,
get him and Trump to have some sort of friction here.
But there's something that there's something about Donald Trump just

(22:00):
don't seem to last very long next to him. Yeah,
there's you know, because I mean even political allies, including
his first vice president and look at Elon Musk. You
can look at a laundry list of people that were
in the cabinet the first go around that just they
didn't stick or they didn't want to be around what
was happening for one reason or another. And that's not

(22:20):
to say Trump's doing a bad job. I just think
he can be I think a bit much to be around.
For some of these people, I couldn't even imagine. Can
you imagine being a cross country card trip with him?
It would it would be a lot, It would be
a lot to deal with. But you know who's stuck
with him, voters. The voters are stuck with him, so
and the voter voters, voters voters the second time.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Right, and the voters don't seem to care if he's
occasionally on the outs with Rand Paul or Tucker Carlson
or whatever. Let's look though at what Tucker Carlson said
to the commander in chief. Tucker Carlson is questioning whether
or not because he said, look, I I love this country.
Is it wrong for me to say that we should
suppor America and take care of our stuff. No. But

(23:02):
part of what makes America so great is we own
up to our promises. We have a promise to Israel
to protect them. We have a treaty or long standing
agreement with Israel to be there for them. As Iran
is saying, as soon as we build this bomb, we're
gonna blow you up first. And Israel said, do we
have to take this anymore? America said nope, And so

(23:25):
here we are doing this. Of course we're going to
support Israel. And Tucker Carlson's going to suggest that suddenly
America shouldn't honor that promise. What does that say to
everybody else on the planet. And Trump is the commander
in chief, He's the one that's got to own up
to it. He's the one that's got to talk to
Netan Yahoo. He's the one who's been talking to the
families of Americans who have been held hostage in after

(23:48):
what happened October seventh, And for Tucker Carlson, to pop
off like that and Trump to say, how is he
not giving me the credit to be able to do both.
We have a domestic agenda we're following through and we
have standing up for real that we can do. We
can do all this stuff, and I think he was
probably pretty hurt that Tucker was questioning him in this way.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Well, my only kind of response to that would be
did the voters vote for this specifically? Because if you
go back to the campaign trail, especially when we had
gotten down in the nitty gritty between Harris and Trump,
a big point I think of voter excitement around the
Trump campaign at that point, especially for an independent voter,
was this guy says he's going to stop foreign wars.

(24:28):
He said very quickly, he could end the Rush of
Ukraine thing, he was going to end the conflict in
the Middle East, and we were not going to have wars.
He is the he there were no wars. Famously, he
said over and over again, there were no wars the
first four years that he was president of the United States.
So I think a lot of people were excited to
get back to that. Stop having to keep our eyeballs

(24:49):
on that the destruction, the death, but also our resources
that were going into both places, and here we are,
We're June seventeenth. We don't seem to be that much
closer to getting to the end of the Ukraine thing.
And now, I mean, I think this is absolutely an
escalation of the Middle East thing, and we are potentially
taking direct part in this. And is that going to

(25:11):
put our troops who are operating in the Middle East
at you at risk? Certainly? Is this going to require
more bodies to be available to head toward the Middle
East to fight this were there? I mean, maybe I
don't know. Is this really what America First means? I'm
you're one hundred percent right. I mean, if Israel is

(25:32):
the ally that we say they are, you have to
have their back in this regard. But is this exactly
what people had in mind when they voted for Trump
expecting America First?

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I think we can give enough credit to President Trump,
even if you hate him. I would hope that you
would give him enough credit to see a track record
there that would suggest that perhaps things are stacking up
like this. Trump is not going to just say, hey,
what did that guy in Iran say about me? Blow
the country off the map. He's not going to do that,
he might make some comments all caps messages on truth,

(26:03):
social comment to the media, something like that. Sure, but
when it comes to putting troops in harm's way or
escalating something in the military, I don't see Trump doing
that unless now it certainly it has to exist as
a possibility. Otherwise, how do you get anyone to do
anything unless they're wondering whether or not Trump would send
either bombers in or troops on the ground or whatever.

(26:25):
But I think that Trump is certainly smart enough because
look what he's doing over here. With his other hand,
he's talking to Putin, He's negotiating with China. He's got
a great relationship right now with Saudi Arabia. Iran doesn't
do anything unless they know they've got the support of Russia.
Who China is a wild card here. They're maybe just

(26:46):
looking for an opportunity. But Iran's not going to do
anything unless Russia supports them, and certainly Saudi Arabia as well.
If President Trump can take those supporters off the table.
And Iran's like, all right, we're going to war against
Israel on America. Who's with me? And Putin's like, good luck, dude.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Trump wins, and obviously Saudi Arabia is still you know,
we're getting them one hundred and forty two billion dollars
worth of our defense stuff to I think also help
police that region. I mean, they aren't fully equipped yet
to be able to take Honor Ron without us, but
they will be at some point with the that six
hundred billion dollar deal they announced a month and a

(27:25):
half ago. So there's there's a lot of moving parts
to this, but it is interesting how some people and
I'll get to Thomas Massey in a second, who's another
hardcore conservative person in Congress who is trying to make
sure that Trump can't get us stuck in tour without
Congress approving it. We'll talk about that next. And by
the way, you can talk about your opinion Donald Trump,
Tucker Carlson or the like in this regard four two, five, five,

(27:48):
eight to eleven ten. You're listening to news radio eleven
ten KFAB. We're being alerted on Fox News that the
meeting that Trump was having in a situation room in
the White House has ended. But we don't know exactly
what that means. We'll let you know when we do know.
And here you go, four two five, eight eleven ten
is our phone number. Ask you for your opinion. Tucker
Carlson kind of speaking out against the idea of getting

(28:09):
involved into a war here in the Middle East and
how America first that could be. And we have Brian
on the phone line today, Brian, what are you thinking
about this?

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Well, another thing you might have missed was that a
couple of days ago Elon Musk has activated Starlink in
Tehran after they were cut off from internet service. And
I was one to talk about the split in the
conservative movement over attitudes towards Israel. If you look on
the comment section on Russia Today RT dot com, it's

(28:41):
exactly identical in every way to comment sections on conservative
movement media in the US, except for one issue. When
it comes to Israel and Jews. There's open hatred of
Israel and Jews encouraged there. And one of your callers
one time commended Hal Turner, and I looked him up

(29:04):
as very similar to John B. Wells, who is broadcasting
on a station here in Lincoln for a couple of
years no longer though, and he would go on about
the Kazarian mafia and how Hitler was a good guy
in World War Two, and Roosevelt and Churchill were the
bad guys. So there's a strong anti Israel, anti Jewish elements.

(29:27):
It's kind of like that Horseschoe theory where the extremes
of far right and far left come together around crazy.
So it's not just the left that you know has a.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Problem with that, all right, Brian? Yeah, I mean I
see stuff like that, and I did actually see the
starlink thing. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Can I ask brand I never get a chance to
talk to Brian anymore? Can I jump in here?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Brian? Why do you think it's anti Israel that Elon
Musk turned on Starlink for regular Iranians to have access
to information outside of what the Iranian government tells them.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Well, if Iran is the enemy, then I would consider
this aiding and betting the enemy, the people of Iran.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
No, the Iran the government still has access to the Internet.
This was the lockdown for their people. Elon must turned
it on so the Iranian people, who we are not
at war with and are not our enemy, can have
access to information beyond what the state run media tells them.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Well, I suppose you can look aus that way, but
one way or another, it is helping Tehran.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah. Well, either way, Brian, I do appreciate the call today,
and thanks for listening to the show.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Thanks for letting me jump in. That was fun.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
No, I don't get a chance to talk to Brian anymore.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, well, it helps having a second body in here
to answer phone calls. The Yeah, And I was about
to say, you know, it's like that's more of a
civilian thing, right, And I mean, I don't think any
Iranian civilians are trying to rise up against the United
States right now. But that kind of leads me to
another thing, right, like, would there be a big pushback
from the citizens of Iran against this regime? I mean,

(31:05):
it's a risky thing to do in the way that
they operate their government, but considering how weakened they seem
to be and have their eyes based on the fact
that you know, Israel and potentially the United States are
firing missiles at them, would this be a time to
put pressure on the regime itself from within? Because I mean,
I mean, the civilians are absolutely in danger in these cities.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
That's always the hope. And this goes back to when
I was a kid, you know, the Iran hostage crisis
and all that we've always heard, and we've seen some
images of the teenagers of Iran. They're wearing nikes and
denim jackets and Michael Jackson shirts, and they want to
dress like Madonna and they want to be Western and
all this stuff. Well, then they seem to grow up

(31:47):
and nothing changes within the country, which I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
But it's that a religious thing. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I just know my entire life, I've always been told
the running and people are all great people, and they
long to be free, So why can't they just move? Well,
some of them do end up getting to America or
anywhere Europe.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean, like every European
country would be like that. I mean, just you don't
have to go that far. I don't know. All right, Well,
I find in it fascinating. Not a lot of people seem
to be wanting to talk about this, this this Trump
versus Tucker Carlson thing, And this is the one thing
I just hope we don't feel foolish, And that is
because so many people have appended themselves like, oh, I

(32:32):
love Tucker Carlson and I love Donald Trump and anything
that they do, Like, I'm one hundred percent on board,
and oh, Elon Musk is really awesome too, and I
love all these guys, and then you start seeing this
split of like them not really be on the same
page anymore about a lot of important things, and now
you're kind of left out of like, Okay, so who
do I actually like the most?

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Here?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Am I being you know, bamboozled here? Somehow? I hope
we don't end up feeling that way after this