Dallas Anti-ICE Shooting

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The big story this morning.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh yes, more gun violence in the United States.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
A person shooting what was considered or was characterized as
a sniper, killing a person, wounding two others at a
Dallas ice facility. Immediately people speculating on who this may be, who,
what their ideologies may be, and what their target was,

(00:34):
because you got you gotta remember, well, this is America,
so everybody's got to score political points off of this. Right,
So the political left we're basically like, oh, here's another
crazy white guy getting his big gun and going and
trying to shoot people because he doesn't like immigrants. And

(00:54):
then the people in the political right, they're coming back
and they're saying, no, this guy was trying to actually
shoot ice law enforcement and that is actually what he
was aiming for. He hates ice and he hates law
enforcement and he just missed.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Well, this is what we know.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
It is a twenty nine year old and I'm not
saying his name because I'm not going to be that guy.
I have taken a pledge that anytime any crazy person
does something absolutely insane and they try to kill people
or they do kill people. In this case, they did
kill people, then I'm not saying their name. And for

(01:36):
anybody out there that has a problem with that, well,
if you really need to know that person's name that badly,
then you can go find it on social media or
something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
But I'm not going to be responsible for helping.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Get this person's name people like this name into the sphere, right,
so if I haven't said the name before, I'm not
going to say it's starting now. Two detainees were killed
and injured. Two detainees killed, one injured. I should say

(02:09):
the person who shot this twenty nine year old also
dead from killing himself, because of course, of course, it's
the kind of person that would kill themselves then face
the music. According to the reports and the Department of
Homeland Security, he fired indiscriminately at the ice building as

(02:36):
well as at a van in the sally Port where
the victims were shot. Three detainees in an unmarked transport
van when they were shot, and then around seven am
local time, which would have been our time too, the
twenty nine year old shot himself and he was found
dead with a rifle on a nearby roof. Absolutely insane

(02:58):
and deranged behavior. Yep, they have rifle caliber ammunition in
a photo which was posted by Cash Bettel, the FBI director,
on his social media accounts, and the rounds were engraved
with a message about anti ICE. So they're trying to
figure out where this guy lives. They think he's from Oklahoma.

(03:21):
And this is just a couple months ago there was
an individual who was trying to ambush a different ICE facility,
targeting officers as well. So I don't know if this
was supposed to be that, but whatever, you know, it
just makes me mad now. Christi Damu's, the Secretary of

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Homeland Security, said on her ex account, these horrendous killings
must serve as a wake up call to the far
left that their rhetoric about ICE has consequences. Comparing Ice
day in and day out to Nazi Gestapo, the secret
police and slave patrols has concoct Quincy's The men and
women of vice are fathers and mothers, sons and daughters.
They get up every day to try to make our

(04:05):
community safer. Like everyone else, they just want to go
home to their families at night. We have way too
many insane people living in this country. I just I
have an incredibly difficult time trying to come to terms

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myself with the fact that this is my life. I
have to come in here. Is it once?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
A wink? Now? Is it once?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Every couple of weeks, and I have to dedicate pieces
of my show to talking about a different verse of
the same song. Crazy individual once people dead, grabs gun,
commits murder.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
This sound about right.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Whether it's somebody deranged enough to where they just want
to shoot up a school because they think the world
hates them. Whether somebody is insane as the guy who
decides he's gonna jump on a building and try to
take out a guy who talks for a living. Maybe
it's somebody like this who's like, you know what, I
really dislike those ice agents.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
You know what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I'm gonna try shooting them too, And instead he kills
a couple of detainees with his shots. You know, you
read about law enforcement ambushes and it's just the worst.
It is the worst. These people go through a lot
of training and a lot of mental fortitude just to

(05:39):
try to do the job. It's not easy being a
law enforcement officer. If you think it's easy, go to
school for it, go to the academy, try to become
a cop and see if you have what it takes,
because I guarantee it's way harder than anybody who thinks
it's easy. It's way harder than they think it is.
And the people who are generally opposed to law enforcement

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or people that don't care about law and order, they
don't care about the rules. They just think everybody should
be able to do what they want, no matter what
it is, no matter when it is or where it is.
And that's their version of freedom in this country. It
is so backwards. And I just don't know where we
go from here. And I saw this video. I can't

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remember where it was. I don't think it was Chicago,
but your mind immediately goes to Chicago. They caught like
seven people of a twenty five person robbery. It was
a pre planned like smash and grab, and there were
like three different cars that dropped off people near this

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jewelry store and all of these people ran in and
they had sledgehammers and pickaxes and they just started going crazy.
They took guns out and were shooting at the glass
to steal all this jewelry. And they think that I'm
never gonna get caught. And this is a totally okay,
thing for me to do. I would never want to

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open a jewelry store anywhere in a community that there's
a potential of something that crazy happening. I certainly wouldn't
open a jewelry store by itself along like a busy
walking street.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
All alone.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Like the safest place to have a jewelry store has
to be inside of them all somewhere that way, at
least if somebody tries to do a smash and grab,
they can't escape the building quickly. I watched that, and
I'm just like, those are people, are Americans, Those are
people who are living in the United States. Yeah, and
maybe the people that were shot and killed are not

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legal citizens here of the United States of America. But
we're not trying to kill them. We're not trying to
shoot them, right. It drives me nuts. I just don't
I don't understand this person, This twenty nine year old,
another insane lunatic at some point would have seen all

(08:08):
of the violence happening in the United States and decided, Yeah,
that's what I want to do.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I'm in for that. Sign me up.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Oh and all this these shell engravings right now, this
is becoming a thing where they engrave on the shells.
So the message you know, the guy who shot the
United Healthcare CEO, and he engraved or wrote on the
shell casings like denied, depose whatever. Yeah, okay, now everybody's

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doing this, like, oh yeah, let me engrave on these.
It really make me a super edgy person when they
find my body because I'm not a big enough man
actually faced the music.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
It's dark.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Man.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Don't like it.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I hate talking about it. It's a huge story. I
have to talk about it. But the fact that an individual,
even one of three hundred and thirty plus million people
in this country, is all of a sudden just like
you know what, That's what I'm gonna go do. I'm
gonna take a gun and I'm gonna try to shoot
the ice enforcement officers because that's what my calling is

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in life.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
And the more this stuff like this happens, the more
the less I feel like I'm actually in in America
that I want to live in.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Now.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I'm not standing down, and neither should you, and you
shouldn't stop fighting for your right to speak up and
for your right to look at the other side and
expect some sort of accountability. You're never gonna get it,
by the way, because nobody will ever admit that it's
their fault. This stuff is happening. But what we can

(09:54):
do is maybe try our best to see if we
can figure heure out who the next insane person is.
I know, I was here just a couple of days ago,
just telling you there's no way to be completely safe.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
This is no way.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
And here is the latest, the latest crazy person who
decided to take a gun. And yeah, let's reach for
the gun. Let's let's do something about this with the gun.
I'm gonna kill people and then I'm gonna kill myself
because I don't want to actually get into trouble. Yeah,
some people don't get it. I don't know, guys. I

(10:30):
usually I have something good to say about stuff like
this that I have a chance to think about. And
I've had plenty of time to think about this thing too.
You know what, I don't think I I'm really struggling with.
I had a great email here from AJ. He says
the country has been split between people with mental illness
and the rest of us. I mean, he's kind of right,

(10:55):
isn't he. I would love to know where else in
the world you know, and all the lefty liberal types
they're gonna listen to this and be like, oh.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
What's the guns? Men gonna get the guns figured out?
All right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Like criminals who want to, you know, commit murder if
they wanted to take a shot with a rifle. Yeah,
I think it's a fair question to ask how a
person gets their their weapon of choice. Totally understand that.
I get that, and that's a fair question to ask.
But as we talked about, I don't know what the

(11:30):
situation is. And I've also speculated of like, okay, so
for selling guns to people and we're not one hundred
percent sure about what their mental makeup is, maybe we
need to do a little bit of recon on a
person beyond what we've already done to allow them to
have a firearm. I've floated that out there, and I've
been absolutely slammed by people in the political right for

(11:51):
even mentioning that it's just me coming up with ideas here.
I'm trying to get people not killed anymore. Right, But
it's obvious that the guns aren't necessarily an issue that
you're gonna fully solve, because it's never They're never going
to be fully banned from this country. Anybody who thinks
that just banning guns outright is something that they can

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easily do, that is not true, and it's not gonna happen.
It's never gonna happen. And if somebody on the political
left is able to come up with some sort of
platform of a way to make gun violence happen less
and have an ability to show that if you're a
responsible gun owner, that you can like not have to
worry about any sort of punishment to you for lunatics

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having guns, then maybe they'll have a platform to stand
on one day that people will be interested in hearing about.
But this person and the person in Minneapolis do the
school shooting, and the person who stole their grandfather's rifle
to commit the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and the people
who have committed crime after crime after crime. This is
a country where there's a lot of people, there's a

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lot of stuff, and just because something is illegal or
outlawed or it against doesn't mean that people who have
bad intentions will not find a way to get it
in their hands anyway. So it is not about the
guns as much as some people on the political left
want it. To be what it is is. It's about
mental illness. It is about people who are crazy. It's
about people who are lunatics and me wanting to be

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as far away from them as possible selfishly. Is there
a way to help people? We talked about this yesterday,
about asylums. We talked about getting people back into mental
institutions whom we cannot trust wandering around with the rest
of America. You know, if this would have happened in
a blue state, then there would have been an absolute

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you know, free fra all that. It's like, oh, they're judges,
they're letting people off, career criminals. They aren't punishing anybody.
They're letting everybody walk the streets. That's why people get
murdered on their subway systems. All this stuff, right, Well,
it didn't. It happened in Dallas, which is a blue
city in a very red state. And this person, apparently

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they think, lived in Oklahoma, so he drove down into
the Dallas area to try to commit this heinous act.
And if he would have actually killed an ice officer,
I mean, could you imagine could you imagine what that
would have looked like. I mean, it's still bad enough

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he actually hit three detainees and killed two of them.
That should be set We should be upset about that.
And he was aiming allegedly for people who are in ice.
I say allegedly because you just never know these days,

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is something done to be a bait and switch? Was
this a person that actually was going to try to
just shoot anyone in every one and.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
This was the target that he had decided.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
You could We got to know more about the person
this guy will see the combed through the social media.
They're going to comb through his background, they're going to
comb through his workplace and anybody who's been around him,
and then they'll probably be able to nail down exactly
what kind of political ideology he had. But there's no
doubt his political ideology at some level played a part

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in what happened. And then there's obviously even more so
than his political ideology is the fact that he's absolutely
broken in the brain. And we are surrounded by a
ton of people in this world, in our country that
are just broken in the brain. And talked about it. Yesterday,
I was wandering through the Old Market neighborhood and just
walking with my wife on my birthday. We were going

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to a bar and it was a great night. And
then there was a woman that kind of came around
the corner and I didn't know what, Like, no big deal,
I don't I'm not afraid of people generally, But as
soon as she walked around the corner, she was like talking.
I thought she was talking to me. No, she acted
like she was like talking to somebody on the phone.
Was walking very erradically, was barely able to stand up,

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certainly on something, some substance of some kind. I don't
know if she's homeless, and it just wanders around down
in that area, but you feel incredibly unsettled in that situation,
you know. And I'm not afraid to talk to strangers obviously,
but I certainly would be afraid to interact with somebody
who seems to have that kind of reaction, right, I

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don't want to If they came up and approached me,
they asked me for money, they asked if I could
help them out or something like, what would happen if
I say no? Like would they they commit some violent
act on me because they feel like they have nothing
left to lose? Is this the kind of America that
we want to have in Omaha, for all intents and purposes,
for its size, is an incredibly safe place to be.

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So so yeah, we're talking about different places in ways
that you know you could feel unsafe just wandering around
downtown Omaha. Well, imagine being in one of these more
unsafe areas just trying to live your life. You have
to be afraid of lunatics like this everywhere you go.
It really it makes me upset, it really does. And
I don't know what it takes. I know that when

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I went to foreign countries. I've been in the last
year or so to Spain and Dora the Deatherlens, and
that's not to me for me to try to like
flex on everybody that I travel places. It's me just
saying I never felt unsafe. There was one time on
a subway in Barcelona that a guy had a cup
and in Spanish, he was asking people to help him out.

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He obviously had some physical ailments too, and I felt
bad for the guy, but everybody on the subway basically
just kind of looked at him, didn't really pay him
a whole lot of attention. I'm sure that crime happens
in other places too, but there's something about here and
is it our politics, Is it the fact that we
don't put people in asylums when the obviously need to

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be there.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
But here we have yet another lunatic twenty nine years old,
and their idea to fix their problems or the problems
of the world to take a gun and to shoot
into discriminately, which the word was the word that the
FBI used, and they basically said, yep, shot injured or
killed these detainees. But we think he was aiming for

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ice officers. Just another day in American twenty twenty five,
conversation is going to continue about this shooter in Dallas
who killed one person. Just to make sure that we're clear,
numbers have been different. We have one detainee in ice
custody who was killed, two who are injured, shot by

(18:32):
a person who is where we're now learning was anti
ice and was actually aiming indiscriminately toward people who are
the actual law enforcement and then killed themselves shortly after
they opened fire. Yeah, it's that situation. We will give
you more information as more details become available.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Jeff's on our phone line.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Wanted to talk about Jimmy Kimmel right now, Jeff welcome
to the show today. What's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Memory. I think I'm one of your unique listeners. I
watched TV almost every night, and I listened to you
two or three or four times a week. The thing
that bothers me about this whole situation is that Kimmel's
original comments were not played very well, and you haven't
played him to day yet, I don't think. But that's

(19:16):
the key thing here is his original comments. And then
to say he needs to apologize, I say, what does
he need to apologize for. I'd like you to say.
I'd like you to explain it to me too. What
does he need to apologize for. I'd like to hear
you play his original comments, yes, and then go from this.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
So, Jeff and I appreciate your suggestion. I'm not going
to play the original comments. We played the original comments
last week. That's not important context for anything other than
the fact that if you didn't know why he was suspended,
which forever you Ben, it's been a week, it's not
as relevant as the stuff that he said last night. Now,
he did feel the need to clarify what he said.
He did feel the need to say that he probably

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would have felt offended too, if it was the shoe
on the other foot. He did say that, he did
explain that. Now you can say he has no reason
to apologize because what he said wasn't necessarily something worth
apologizing for. But what I'm saying, and as far as
the temperature in the room goes, apologizing for saying something
that is going to be offensive to people, saying something

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that is incorrect or is straight up untrue, which is
absolutely what he was alluding to when he said that
people who were I maaga were trying to do everything
they could to make sure that this shooter wasn't one
of their own. You know, like that in and of
itself is just an insensitive comment to make in the
aftermath of an incredibly emotionally charged moment in American history

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where a high profile influencer, all his entire background was
is just talking to people he was assassinating. He could
have picked his words better, or he could have left
a subject alone for at least a day or two
while people were trying to forget, grieve, and heal about
what was happening. So you may be right, Jeff, maybe
it's not worth an apology, But an apology would go

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on off long way to what we're trying to do
was just heal this nation.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
And that's where I'm at on it.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Emory. The thing is you're talking about comments that he
made originally, and that's where this focus should be. What
does he need to apologize for? And if you can
elaborate on what he needs to apologize for, then I'm
a better listener. I'm a better on Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Okay, so I'm going to tell you what. Yeah, and
Jeff and I appreciate that both sides.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, And I'm hearing you sometimes to be the bigger person,
even if you don't think you have done anything specifically
or explicitly wrong. I think in a lot of ways,
it's good to apologize if you see people taking something,
even if that's not what you intended to do. Now
he clarified that he didn't intend to do what people
said he was intending to do by outright lying about

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the shooter of the of Charlie Kirk. Now, with that
being said, apologizing because of the way people are taking
his comments is something that can absolutely heal and bridge
the gap. That is something that I do with my
wife a lot. I don't think I said anything wrong,
She's still mad at me. You know what I do, Jeff.
It tones everything down when I say I apologize for
what I said. I didn't mean for it to come

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off that way. But I do appreciate the call, Jeff,
and I hope that was a satisfactory answer to your
concerns today