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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You want to know what I think. We live in
a society where a lot of people are either intentionally
trying to stir the stir the pot, or are insanely
ignorant to the times. So the story is, and I'll
bring this up because it's made this you know, Omaha
(00:21):
Local News. Also in the the Moini area, there's a
suburb called Clive. There's a bar in Clive called Miss
Kitty's Bar. Does that sound like an establishment that you'd
like to go to? It seems a little tawny to me,
but that's you know, to each of these Yeah, give
it a try at least.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So it's like they had like four hundred people there.
They said, that's a big Halloween party on I think Saturday, Friday, Saturday.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
What happened was a guy showed up to this Halloween
party at Miss Kitty's Bar in Clive, Iowa, and he
was wearing a Hitler costume. Now it's not like he
just had the mustache. No, he did his hair like
Hitler would have. He had the mustache, but then he
also had the rest of the costume like he had
(01:14):
the the like right, it was the proper color. It
had the suit like the valor of yeah, and he
had the he had the brit the band with the
swatstika on it. Something that if you saw somebody dress
as Hitler and he had like the metal and stuff.
If you if you if you saw somebody dressed as Hitler,
what's the first thing that goes through your mind? Because
(01:36):
I think it depends on how old you are and
what your background is as to whether or not this
would be offensive to you.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I would instantly be alarmed. I'm not gonna lie. I understand,
even in the context of Halloween. If I walked into
this bar and I saw that, I would be like, WHOA,
I don't know, Yeah, what is going on there? Whoa?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So people were asking for this individual to be removed.
And the answer that these people, and this is why
the establishment itself is catching heat, is because they said
it's just a costume at first. Now their owner is
trying to backtrack and say, look, if I would have
known this and we didn't have four hundred people here,
you know, it was a stressful situation. We should have
(02:14):
removed that individual. But we're getting death threats and stuff
over this. That's too far in that context. It's a
guy wearing a costume. At the same time, I do
think it would have been appropriate for the establishment to
tell the individual to lose the armband, in the mustache
(02:35):
or get out. Considering the anti Semitic background of society now,
considering how Republicans are considered Nazis by a lot of
mud slinging Democrats, now is not the societal time, If
there ever was a time, Now is not the societal
time to be dressing up like Hitler for a Halloween party.
(03:00):
With that being said, how would I handle this? If
I saw the guy walk in, it would catch my attention.
The guy is photographed also doing like Nazi salutes, right,
He's like doing the whole bit, and people were taking
photos with him and stuff, because you know, that's what
people do. Volunteer club hockey coach from Drake University has
(03:21):
been fired today for smiling in a photo next to
this guy. You can say whatever you want, Drake University
wants to stay the heck away from that individual.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, you can't even post a picture in a red
solo cup if you're affiliate with the college team. Can
you get in trouble? That's usually team rules exactly So
at Solo Cup.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, so this is a person who went on their
social media and posted this photo or there was at
least a picture of them on social media smiling at
this party next to a Nazi saluting Hitler. You know,
it's like you're free. You have the freedom of speech,
but not the freedom of consequence, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, we talked about this in a while too.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
This is very similar to a lot of that conversation,
a lot of when the Charlie Kirk assassin, right, the
people who were celebrating Charlie Kirk's death had the freedom
to say what they wanted, but not the freedom of consequence,
not the freedom to know that. Okay, well I'm protected,
you're not. Your employer has every right to say, you
(04:19):
know what, we don't want you around here.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
With that being said, like I said, i'd be alarmed,
but I also did not. I would not have I
wouldn't have done anything. I'm not a Jewish person. I
also don't take this stuff that seriously.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I went as a kid to Halloween wants a Lumberjack
a lumberjack. My mom dressed me up as a lumberjack.
I think it was third grade, second or third grade,
whatever it was. And it's one of those homemade we
talked about this well, like a homemade costume where you know,
we didn't go and buy like a real fancy one
from the store. My mom just had enough stuff. I
(04:58):
had a flannel shirt that you put me in, and
I wore these jeans and we rolled up like my
ankles a little bit and it just like made me
look like a like a lumberjack. And all my teachers,
all the teachers in school laughed at me and thought
I was dressing up as Steve Rkele, you.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Know, poor childhood emory. That's terrible man, you know, Steve
Kele Erkele.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah. Now I didn't even have glasses on or anything.
It was just like but I theoretically, I guess lumberjacks
could wear glasses because they're sawing all day and you know.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Safety exactety glasses.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, so I didn't have the glasses, but people just like,
you know, like, look I was. I looked like Steve Rkele,
which in hindsight's hilarious, but you know, it could have
been deemed defensive. In twenty twenty five, that little Emery
who was as white as they come, is dressing up
looking like old Erkele from Family Matters, and he's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I'm a big fan. Yeah, Jalia White, real name. Good
good stuff by him in the early to mid nineties.
Good stuff by him now that I've basically played it
pretty safe beyond that, I was a pumpkin one year.
I told you about my my cow costume. I don't,
(06:13):
I don't do I don't. I don't, I don't. I
don't dance around these lines for any reason. This guy
he had there are only two options. He's an absolute fool.
He's an idiot. He has no idea how to read
a room or to read society, and he just thought that, oh,
you know what I should go is I should get
a whole hitler look going on here. Or the much
(06:37):
more likely scenario is that this individual knew what he
was doing, knew that this would create some outrage, and
he thought this was the ultimate opportunity for him to
troll people and to post it on a social media
and have a bunch of people outraged, which he probably
feeds off of. A lot of people in my industry
(06:57):
love that stuff. I am not one of them. I'm
sure you could figure that out by now. But there
are a lot of people that like to stir the
pot and get a bunch of people angry at them,
and they thrive on that, And then there would also
be a bunch of other people that would slap them
on the back and say it, Wow, you are ridiculous
for this. I can't believe you actually went through with it.
That's what this guy was going after all? Right now?
(07:18):
Is that inappropriate? You be the judge. But I do
think that maybe we should have the conversation of maybe
stirring the pot and also trying to be intentionally offensive
just because you can. Isn't the right societal play depending
(07:40):
on the climate in which you're in, with all of
the antisemitic, anti Jewish stuff that we're seeing, plus all
of the Nazism being thrown around Republicans in that word
coming up more and more for some reason. Golly, I
can't imagine that anybody would think, oh, yeah, now is
(08:01):
a great time to dress up as Hitler. I had
people in my morning show talking to me about this,
saying stuff like, hey, you know what, I had my
teacher when I was in middle school in the seventies
my teacher dressed up as Hitler and we thought it
was funny. Another guy tell me about the producers, and
you know, like, obviously that was a very interesting and
(08:25):
very successful production, but the producers there's a play about
Hitler in there, and it's funny. It's like it's supposed
to be comedic, and it is funny in the context.
If you're not ultra sensitive about what's happening in twenty
twenty five, I hate to break it to the people
who bring that stuff up. It is not the same
timeframe in which we live now. And you can look
(08:47):
at like the Washington Redskins having to change their name,
and the Cleveland Indians having to change their name, and
the North Dakota Fighting Sue having to change their name.
People are much more sensitive to this stuff now than
they were that long go. And whether or not you
agree or disagree with it, that is just what the
world is now. Dressing up as Hitler in twenty twenty
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five and going out in public and doing the Nazi
salute and all that stuff, you know what you're doing,
and you're looking for that outrage and that reaction from people,
and you're not gonna get it from me. I'm just like,
that's a bold choice, man, But you know what, I'm
going to just go about my time. I don't if
that individual starts doing very dangerous looking things, then I start,
(09:29):
I'll start kind of feeling a little uncomfortable. But if
he's just there having drinks and by himself, if he
wants to make himself a pariah at the party, good
for him, But he's not going to get attention from me.
The guy himself is taking heat. He's apologized for whatever
it's worth, and he says he takes full responsibility for
what he did, and I'm sure he does. But I
(09:50):
also think he was asking for this type of attention
and it's probably pretty glad that he got it, would
be my guess. But the bigger question isn't about him.
It's the bigger question is about inappropriate Halloween costumes and
are we in just a weird societal place where maybe
dressing up as Adolf Hiller is not the kind of
thing that we should be doing right now. Whether you
(10:10):
can or not isn't really the question. Maybe the question
should be whether or not you should. Well, all the
phone lines are open four, two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten.
We have Chris on the phone line today. Welcome in, Chris, what's.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Up all right? I have a question.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
I mean, yes, a person dressing up like that is
completely inappropriate. What were your opinion of Elon Musk putting
out AI of Kamala Harrison a not human yes, and
then you know, doing that that type of thing here
and also giving a Nazi salute during a Republican convention, it.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Is also insanely inappropriate, Chris. And honestly, the same thing
goes for all the AI stuff that Donald Trump and
the White House are posting of a Keem Jefferies in
a sombrero like it's for the same They're going for
the same reaction in just a different way. It is inappropriate,
It is stupid. It really doesn't end up mattering at
(11:10):
the end of the day. But it's all done to
generate a reaction from people that disagree with them. And
that's Unfortunately, we're in a troll era where people just
get as much satisfaction out of knowing they have trolled
you instead of them actually adding anything constructive to a conversation.
And so I don't think it's any better than the
(11:32):
guy dressing from head to toe as Adolf Hitler, And
even if it was done in a way that isn't
real life, it still was intending to get a very
troll like reaction.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Right, do you agree?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
I mean, I agree with you on that. I was
just wondering what your thoughts were on that, because there
seemed to be an awful lot of people that just
kind of dismissed it as old, that's mountain, no big deal,
that's nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well, and it may not be. It may not be
a big deal. Right, well, it doesn't have to be
a big deal. But I still think it's super inappropriate
and it's done to troll the other side to get
a reaction.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Okay, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
All right, Chris, appreciate the call. Yeah, this isn't a
Democrats Republican thing. We get so caught up in that stuff.
This is going to be the death of me having
to be like not everything has to be Democrat or Republican.
Sometimes things can be common sense or not common sense.
Some things can be like right or wrong. Just because
(12:38):
your side does it doesn't make it justifiable. Just because
the other side does it doesn't make it evil, you
know it. We got to stop thinking like that. And
I say, that not because I'm tired of partisan politics.
I say that because not everything is politics, not everything
has to be politics. We have decided, in the Trump Age,
(13:01):
the last decade or so, on our social media accounts,
in our normal day to day conversations, that all of
a sudden, our political identity has to become a large
part of our entire identity. Instead of putting in your
Facebook or your Twitter bio that you love birdwatching, you
like to travel, and your favorite sports team is the
Vancouver Canucks. Now you're going and saying he him, she, her,
(13:25):
they them, Or you're putting flags of a bunch of
countries that you don't live in that you're supporting, or
you're saying stuff like, you know, get these Democrats out
of my government, all this stuff like you can really
quite easily tell who is or isn't a Republican or
Democrat these days, and it's the lead and every other
opinion they have in their life is has got to
(13:48):
be in line with that Democrat or Republican thought. It
doesn't have to be that way. We have decided to
make it that way. So, and I will welcome Chris's call,
I assuming I mean that Chris is you know, his
reaction here is just like, well, people on the political right,
you know, Donald Trump, Elon Musk, they're doing all this
stuff too, and it's like, well, they're not dressing up
(14:10):
as Hitler. But yeah, I'm also not in favor of
these AI photos and videos that are intending to just
troll the opposition. And you know what would really help
calm that stuff down if the left would stop reacting
to it. You are literally giving them all that they
want when it comes to you reacting in a positive
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or a negative light. And Joe, welcome to the show today.
What's on your mind.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Well, it's a matter of it's too soon memory if
you think about it. There's a lot of people that
has been associated with what Hitler did, either by family, descendants, whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Maybe directly. I mean my ex wife I saw her
grandmother while she was still alive. She had numbers tattooed
on her skin.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I walked in the prison camp in doc Out.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
We thought a world war because of that. Paul Pott,
that's that's that's outside of people's memory Scoper in terms
of what they're comprehending. But the Hitler or the image
of Hitler invokes such a massive response that Halloween or not,
it's gonna piss a lot of people off.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
That's a great point. Didn't even think about it. Honestly,
it's been less than a century. You're only a couple
of generations removed from people, like you said, actually being
affected directly by this man's evil nature. It's a good point, Joe.
I really appreciate you calling in and sharing that with
us today. Bill's on our phone line four h two
five five, eight eleven ten. What's on your mind today.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Bill, Well, not too much. A good afternoon, you know.
And everything I hurt so far is pretty much on
the money. It comes right down to it. It is
just Halloween costume might be in terrible taste, and a
couple points along those lines. I watch a lot of auctions.
(16:03):
There's a lot of online auctions. You can see they
just cracked open grandpa's closet selling him out, you know,
and there's some Nazi memorabilia bring back stuff, and I
was kind of thinking, you know, maybe kind of need
to pick up a piece of that. If my dad
and his buddy's heard me thinking that, they would drag
me out back and beat me down rightfully. So the
(16:26):
other only other quick note I got. I believe it
was in the late nineties the Hell's Angels banned the
SS lightning bolts and the swastika, So you know, if
it's too offensive for those cats, yeah, that's bad taste.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
That is also a good point. If the Hell's Angels
say we're drawing the line there, maybe for your Halloween costume,
you should be drawing the line there too, Bill, good stuff.
Appreciate your call man, Thank you so much for listening. Yeah,
this is all good stuff. And I appreciate everybody for
calling in and being a part of this conversation today,
because I'm never going to be that guy. As you
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could probably tell by my political beliefs and opinions, I
like to listen to people as much as I like
giving my opinion. I do have my own beliefs in
my opinions, but I don't think that my opinion should
matter more than anyone else's. We all have the same
voice in this country. We all have the same vote
that counts for the exact same when we go and
exercise our civic duty to participate in our elections. What
(17:28):
I will tell you is that if I did see
somebody who was trying to get this time of attention.
Im Like I said earlier in the show, I would
not be the one to give it to them. I
would not be the kind of person that would be
confrontational with someone who decided they wanted to dress up
as a controversial figure. They'd be looking for that, But
what I would tell you is that I would find
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it to be in poor taste and I wouldn't be
associating myself with that individual at all. And that's why
you see people like the Drake volunteer hockey coach getting
removed from her position because Drake University says, look, we
can't have anyone associated with his university even kind of
joking around, hanging out and smiling in a photo with
a fake Hitler. That's a bad look for everybody you're
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associated with. So and you know, if you're a person
of a religious background, you say you're religious, people dressing
up as the devil or a demon, I mean, I
can understand how that could be offensive to you. For
people who have any type of background, there are certainly
different types of costumes like blackface, like Indian headdresses that
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may offend you. You know what Halloween isn't about trying
to offend people. Halloween is about, let's say, I'll have
some fun, and if you're an adult dressing up in
a costume and you're going to a party at the
age of thirty five or forty five or sixty, have
fun with it. You don't need to just be doing
stuff so you can go viral on social media, or
you can be trying to upset people or trolling people
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about it. There are a lot of fun topical costumes
that aren't going to generate that type of reaction. Great
conversation though, big thanks to everybody who called an emailed
in
You want to know what I think. We live in
a society where a lot of people are either intentionally
trying to stir the stir the pot, or are insanely
ignorant to the times. So the story is, and I'll
bring this up because it's made this you know, Omaha
(00:21):
Local News. Also in the the Moini area, there's a
suburb called Clive. There's a bar in Clive called Miss
Kitty's Bar. Does that sound like an establishment that you'd
like to go to? It seems a little tawny to me,
but that's you know, to each of these Yeah, give
it a try at least.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So it's like they had like four hundred people there.
They said, that's a big Halloween party on I think Saturday, Friday, Saturday.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
What happened was a guy showed up to this Halloween
party at Miss Kitty's Bar in Clive, Iowa, and he
was wearing a Hitler costume. Now it's not like he
just had the mustache. No, he did his hair like
Hitler would have. He had the mustache, but then he
also had the rest of the costume like he had
(01:14):
the the like right, it was the proper color. It
had the suit like the valor of yeah, and he
had the he had the brit the band with the
swatstika on it. Something that if you saw somebody dress
as Hitler and he had like the metal and stuff.
If you if you if you saw somebody dressed as Hitler,
what's the first thing that goes through your mind? Because
(01:36):
I think it depends on how old you are and
what your background is as to whether or not this
would be offensive to you.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I would instantly be alarmed. I'm not gonna lie. I understand,
even in the context of Halloween. If I walked into
this bar and I saw that, I would be like, WHOA,
I don't know, Yeah, what is going on there? Whoa?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So people were asking for this individual to be removed.
And the answer that these people, and this is why
the establishment itself is catching heat, is because they said
it's just a costume at first. Now their owner is
trying to backtrack and say, look, if I would have
known this and we didn't have four hundred people here,
you know, it was a stressful situation. We should have
(02:14):
removed that individual. But we're getting death threats and stuff
over this. That's too far in that context. It's a
guy wearing a costume. At the same time, I do
think it would have been appropriate for the establishment to
tell the individual to lose the armband, in the mustache
(02:35):
or get out. Considering the anti Semitic background of society now,
considering how Republicans are considered Nazis by a lot of
mud slinging Democrats, now is not the societal time, If
there ever was a time, Now is not the societal
time to be dressing up like Hitler for a Halloween party.
(03:00):
With that being said, how would I handle this? If
I saw the guy walk in, it would catch my attention.
The guy is photographed also doing like Nazi salutes, right,
He's like doing the whole bit, and people were taking
photos with him and stuff, because you know, that's what
people do. Volunteer club hockey coach from Drake University has
(03:21):
been fired today for smiling in a photo next to
this guy. You can say whatever you want, Drake University
wants to stay the heck away from that individual.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, you can't even post a picture in a red
solo cup if you're affiliate with the college team. Can
you get in trouble? That's usually team rules exactly So
at Solo Cup.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, so this is a person who went on their
social media and posted this photo or there was at
least a picture of them on social media smiling at
this party next to a Nazi saluting Hitler. You know,
it's like you're free. You have the freedom of speech,
but not the freedom of consequence, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, we talked about this in a while too.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
This is very similar to a lot of that conversation,
a lot of when the Charlie Kirk assassin, right, the
people who were celebrating Charlie Kirk's death had the freedom
to say what they wanted, but not the freedom of consequence,
not the freedom to know that. Okay, well I'm protected,
you're not. Your employer has every right to say, you
(04:19):
know what, we don't want you around here.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
With that being said, like I said, i'd be alarmed,
but I also did not. I would not have I
wouldn't have done anything. I'm not a Jewish person. I
also don't take this stuff that seriously.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I went as a kid to Halloween wants a Lumberjack
a lumberjack. My mom dressed me up as a lumberjack.
I think it was third grade, second or third grade,
whatever it was. And it's one of those homemade we
talked about this well, like a homemade costume where you know,
we didn't go and buy like a real fancy one
from the store. My mom just had enough stuff. I
(04:58):
had a flannel shirt that you put me in, and
I wore these jeans and we rolled up like my
ankles a little bit and it just like made me
look like a like a lumberjack. And all my teachers,
all the teachers in school laughed at me and thought
I was dressing up as Steve Rkele, you.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Know, poor childhood emory. That's terrible man, you know, Steve
Kele Erkele.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah. Now I didn't even have glasses on or anything.
It was just like but I theoretically, I guess lumberjacks
could wear glasses because they're sawing all day and you know.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Safety exactety glasses.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, so I didn't have the glasses, but people just like,
you know, like, look I was. I looked like Steve Rkele,
which in hindsight's hilarious, but you know, it could have
been deemed defensive. In twenty twenty five, that little Emery
who was as white as they come, is dressing up
looking like old Erkele from Family Matters, and he's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I'm a big fan. Yeah, Jalia White, real name. Good
good stuff by him in the early to mid nineties.
Good stuff by him now that I've basically played it
pretty safe beyond that, I was a pumpkin one year.
I told you about my my cow costume. I don't,
(06:13):
I don't do I don't. I don't, I don't. I
don't dance around these lines for any reason. This guy
he had there are only two options. He's an absolute fool.
He's an idiot. He has no idea how to read
a room or to read society, and he just thought that, oh,
you know what I should go is I should get
a whole hitler look going on here. Or the much
(06:37):
more likely scenario is that this individual knew what he
was doing, knew that this would create some outrage, and
he thought this was the ultimate opportunity for him to
troll people and to post it on a social media
and have a bunch of people outraged, which he probably
feeds off of. A lot of people in my industry
(06:57):
love that stuff. I am not one of them. I'm
sure you could figure that out by now. But there
are a lot of people that like to stir the
pot and get a bunch of people angry at them,
and they thrive on that, And then there would also
be a bunch of other people that would slap them
on the back and say it, Wow, you are ridiculous
for this. I can't believe you actually went through with it.
That's what this guy was going after all? Right now?
(07:18):
Is that inappropriate? You be the judge. But I do
think that maybe we should have the conversation of maybe
stirring the pot and also trying to be intentionally offensive
just because you can. Isn't the right societal play depending
(07:40):
on the climate in which you're in, with all of
the antisemitic, anti Jewish stuff that we're seeing, plus all
of the Nazism being thrown around Republicans in that word
coming up more and more for some reason. Golly, I
can't imagine that anybody would think, oh, yeah, now is
(08:01):
a great time to dress up as Hitler. I had
people in my morning show talking to me about this,
saying stuff like, hey, you know what, I had my
teacher when I was in middle school in the seventies
my teacher dressed up as Hitler and we thought it
was funny. Another guy tell me about the producers, and
you know, like, obviously that was a very interesting and
(08:25):
very successful production, but the producers there's a play about
Hitler in there, and it's funny. It's like it's supposed
to be comedic, and it is funny in the context.
If you're not ultra sensitive about what's happening in twenty
twenty five, I hate to break it to the people
who bring that stuff up. It is not the same
timeframe in which we live now. And you can look
(08:47):
at like the Washington Redskins having to change their name,
and the Cleveland Indians having to change their name, and
the North Dakota Fighting Sue having to change their name.
People are much more sensitive to this stuff now than
they were that long go. And whether or not you
agree or disagree with it, that is just what the
world is now. Dressing up as Hitler in twenty twenty
(09:08):
five and going out in public and doing the Nazi
salute and all that stuff, you know what you're doing,
and you're looking for that outrage and that reaction from people,
and you're not gonna get it from me. I'm just like,
that's a bold choice, man, But you know what, I'm
going to just go about my time. I don't if
that individual starts doing very dangerous looking things, then I start,
(09:29):
I'll start kind of feeling a little uncomfortable. But if
he's just there having drinks and by himself, if he
wants to make himself a pariah at the party, good
for him, But he's not going to get attention from me.
The guy himself is taking heat. He's apologized for whatever
it's worth, and he says he takes full responsibility for
what he did, and I'm sure he does. But I
(09:50):
also think he was asking for this type of attention
and it's probably pretty glad that he got it, would
be my guess. But the bigger question isn't about him.
It's the bigger question is about inappropriate Halloween costumes and
are we in just a weird societal place where maybe
dressing up as Adolf Hiller is not the kind of
thing that we should be doing right now. Whether you
(10:10):
can or not isn't really the question. Maybe the question
should be whether or not you should. Well, all the
phone lines are open four, two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten.
We have Chris on the phone line today. Welcome in, Chris, what's.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Up all right? I have a question.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
I mean, yes, a person dressing up like that is
completely inappropriate. What were your opinion of Elon Musk putting
out AI of Kamala Harrison a not human yes, and
then you know, doing that that type of thing here
and also giving a Nazi salute during a Republican convention, it.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Is also insanely inappropriate, Chris. And honestly, the same thing
goes for all the AI stuff that Donald Trump and
the White House are posting of a Keem Jefferies in
a sombrero like it's for the same They're going for
the same reaction in just a different way. It is inappropriate,
It is stupid. It really doesn't end up mattering at
(11:10):
the end of the day. But it's all done to
generate a reaction from people that disagree with them. And
that's Unfortunately, we're in a troll era where people just
get as much satisfaction out of knowing they have trolled
you instead of them actually adding anything constructive to a conversation.
And so I don't think it's any better than the
(11:32):
guy dressing from head to toe as Adolf Hitler, And
even if it was done in a way that isn't
real life, it still was intending to get a very
troll like reaction.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Right, do you agree?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
I mean, I agree with you on that. I was
just wondering what your thoughts were on that, because there
seemed to be an awful lot of people that just
kind of dismissed it as old, that's mountain, no big deal,
that's nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well, and it may not be. It may not be
a big deal. Right, well, it doesn't have to be
a big deal. But I still think it's super inappropriate
and it's done to troll the other side to get
a reaction.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Okay, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
All right, Chris, appreciate the call. Yeah, this isn't a
Democrats Republican thing. We get so caught up in that stuff.
This is going to be the death of me having
to be like not everything has to be Democrat or Republican.
Sometimes things can be common sense or not common sense.
Some things can be like right or wrong. Just because
(12:38):
your side does it doesn't make it justifiable. Just because
the other side does it doesn't make it evil, you
know it. We got to stop thinking like that. And
I say, that not because I'm tired of partisan politics.
I say that because not everything is politics, not everything
has to be politics. We have decided, in the Trump Age,
(13:01):
the last decade or so, on our social media accounts,
in our normal day to day conversations, that all of
a sudden, our political identity has to become a large
part of our entire identity. Instead of putting in your
Facebook or your Twitter bio that you love birdwatching, you
like to travel, and your favorite sports team is the
Vancouver Canucks. Now you're going and saying he him, she, her,
(13:25):
they them, Or you're putting flags of a bunch of
countries that you don't live in that you're supporting, or
you're saying stuff like, you know, get these Democrats out
of my government, all this stuff like you can really
quite easily tell who is or isn't a Republican or
Democrat these days, and it's the lead and every other
opinion they have in their life is has got to
(13:48):
be in line with that Democrat or Republican thought. It
doesn't have to be that way. We have decided to
make it that way. So, and I will welcome Chris's call,
I assuming I mean that Chris is you know, his
reaction here is just like, well, people on the political right,
you know, Donald Trump, Elon Musk, they're doing all this
stuff too, and it's like, well, they're not dressing up
(14:10):
as Hitler. But yeah, I'm also not in favor of
these AI photos and videos that are intending to just
troll the opposition. And you know what would really help
calm that stuff down if the left would stop reacting
to it. You are literally giving them all that they
want when it comes to you reacting in a positive
(14:34):
or a negative light. And Joe, welcome to the show today.
What's on your mind.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Well, it's a matter of it's too soon memory if
you think about it. There's a lot of people that
has been associated with what Hitler did, either by family, descendants, whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Maybe directly. I mean my ex wife I saw her
grandmother while she was still alive. She had numbers tattooed
on her skin.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I walked in the prison camp in doc Out.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
We thought a world war because of that. Paul Pott,
that's that's that's outside of people's memory Scoper in terms
of what they're comprehending. But the Hitler or the image
of Hitler invokes such a massive response that Halloween or not,
it's gonna piss a lot of people off.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
That's a great point. Didn't even think about it. Honestly,
it's been less than a century. You're only a couple
of generations removed from people, like you said, actually being
affected directly by this man's evil nature. It's a good point, Joe.
I really appreciate you calling in and sharing that with
us today. Bill's on our phone line four h two
five five, eight eleven ten. What's on your mind today.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Bill, Well, not too much. A good afternoon, you know.
And everything I hurt so far is pretty much on
the money. It comes right down to it. It is
just Halloween costume might be in terrible taste, and a
couple points along those lines. I watch a lot of auctions.
(16:03):
There's a lot of online auctions. You can see they
just cracked open grandpa's closet selling him out, you know,
and there's some Nazi memorabilia bring back stuff, and I
was kind of thinking, you know, maybe kind of need
to pick up a piece of that. If my dad
and his buddy's heard me thinking that, they would drag
me out back and beat me down rightfully. So the
(16:26):
other only other quick note I got. I believe it
was in the late nineties the Hell's Angels banned the
SS lightning bolts and the swastika, So you know, if
it's too offensive for those cats, yeah, that's bad taste.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
That is also a good point. If the Hell's Angels
say we're drawing the line there, maybe for your Halloween costume,
you should be drawing the line there too, Bill, good stuff.
Appreciate your call man, Thank you so much for listening. Yeah,
this is all good stuff. And I appreciate everybody for
calling in and being a part of this conversation today,
because I'm never going to be that guy. As you
(17:05):
could probably tell by my political beliefs and opinions, I
like to listen to people as much as I like
giving my opinion. I do have my own beliefs in
my opinions, but I don't think that my opinion should
matter more than anyone else's. We all have the same
voice in this country. We all have the same vote
that counts for the exact same when we go and
exercise our civic duty to participate in our elections. What
(17:28):
I will tell you is that if I did see
somebody who was trying to get this time of attention.
Im Like I said earlier in the show, I would
not be the one to give it to them. I
would not be the kind of person that would be
confrontational with someone who decided they wanted to dress up
as a controversial figure. They'd be looking for that, But
what I would tell you is that I would find
(17:49):
it to be in poor taste and I wouldn't be
associating myself with that individual at all. And that's why
you see people like the Drake volunteer hockey coach getting
removed from her position because Drake University says, look, we
can't have anyone associated with his university even kind of
joking around, hanging out and smiling in a photo with
a fake Hitler. That's a bad look for everybody you're
(18:12):
associated with. So and you know, if you're a person
of a religious background, you say you're religious, people dressing
up as the devil or a demon, I mean, I
can understand how that could be offensive to you. For
people who have any type of background, there are certainly
different types of costumes like blackface, like Indian headdresses that
(18:33):
may offend you. You know what Halloween isn't about trying
to offend people. Halloween is about, let's say, I'll have
some fun, and if you're an adult dressing up in
a costume and you're going to a party at the
age of thirty five or forty five or sixty, have
fun with it. You don't need to just be doing
stuff so you can go viral on social media, or
you can be trying to upset people or trolling people
(18:54):
about it. There are a lot of fun topical costumes
that aren't going to generate that type of reaction. Great
conversation though, big thanks to everybody who called an emailed
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