Walk Away from Ukraine

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Trump should walk away from Ukraine. He jd Vance and
Marco Rubio offered both Russia and Ukraine their final peace
deal framework offer. And it's a very good deal, as
I laid out on the air, and let me lay
it out again very quickly for all the listeners. Essentially,

(00:24):
here is now the United States' final proposal for a
negotiation that would lead to a complete and utter peace
settlement and an end to the war. It would recognize
Russia's sovereignty over Crimea, a territory that they have controlled
now for nearly ten years, and which frankly has belonged

(00:44):
to the Russian Empire going back centuries. It would also
recognize Russia's gains in eastern Ukraine and allow Putin to
keep the four provinces that he has annexed in the
eastern part of that country. And finally, the cost is
belli of the war. Should Ukraine be part of NATO?

(01:05):
The answer is no, Ukraine would not be allowed to
join NATO, which is an absolute redline for the Russians.
So what do the Ukrainians get? You may ask, Russia
seems to get a lot, which is true. Well, Ukraine
would get a carve out in which they would be
allowed to join the European Union, a huge concession on

(01:28):
the part of Russia. Ukraine would have a path to
the West, to the political and economic integration with Europe,
and eventually a closer financial, commercial links and ties with
the United States. Russia would see the territory that it
has captured around the important Ukrainian city of Kharkiv, thereby

(01:52):
giving Ukraine some of its land back, and the Europeans
would provide security guarantees, making sure that if Russia ever
decided to attack again, it would have to go through Britain, France, Italy, Germany,
Poland and the entire European Union. In other words, it
would secure a lasting, enduring peace. Ukraine would emerge smaller,

(02:18):
but it would still be intact. It would have access
to the Black Sea, it would have a clear path
and future into Europe and with the West and the
United States. Ukraine would emerge as a viable country with
a future in the West as its people desire. Putin,

(02:38):
of course, gets his strategic buffer these four provinces. Ukraine
is not a member of NATO, but militarily neutral, and
they get to keep crimea Both sides win. Both sides lose.
Nobody gets exactly what they want. But the key is
it reflects the military facts on the ground, and the

(03:01):
reality is Ukraine has lost this war. Their army is
starting to break apart. They are starting to slowly collapse
on the eastern front. Putin's forces are picking up territory
day by day, more villages, more towns. If this war
continues for another three, six or nine months, the Ukrainian

(03:25):
army can break. Russia could get a strategic breakthrough in
the east. And you're looking at the loss of Edessa,
which would mean access for Ukraine to the entire Black Sea,
and maybe even the capital Kiev would fall, which would
mean the loss of Ukraine itself. This is why Trump
is telling Zelenski, this is the best deal you're going

(03:48):
to get. It gives you peace with honor. But Zelenski
is not willing to sign on. Putin is willing to
negotiate face to face with the Ukrainian government and end
this war. He wants this peace plan. He's willing to
sign on to this peace plan. Zelenski, however, is told Trump,

(04:09):
Rubio and Vance explicitly, basically the diplomatic version of blank
off that this deal is a non starter, that Ukraine
will never give up an inch of its territory, not Crimea,
not the don Bass, not Dunetsk, Luhans Zaparizia, Kerson, nothing,

(04:32):
and that Ukraine will join NATO, and that it wants
Russia to give Ukraine hundreds of billions of dollars in reparations.
In short, Zelenski is demanding the moon, and he wants
this war to continue, and he is willing now to
sacrifice even more Ukrainian lives, and this can go on

(04:54):
for another year, two years, or three years. He is
gambling with the lives of his own people and his
own soldiers. Blessed are the peacemakers, says the Bible, and
Trump should surely be blessed for trying to bring peace
and being a peacemaker. But in the end, for there

(05:15):
to be peace, both sides have to want there to
be peace. Putin seems to want it, Zelenski doesn't. Fine,
that's his choice, and that's the choice of the Ukrainian government.
But we also have a choice. Should we continue down
this path of feudal diplomatic negotiations in which we're expending

(05:38):
more and more diplomatic political capital and essentially what is
now becoming a diplomatic rabbit hole. And Trump has had enough.
He has now told Zelenski this is a take it
or leave it offer. Zolensky is saying he will leave it. Fine.
Then it's time for Trump and America to walk away,

(06:02):
wash our hands, and if the Ukrainians want to continue
this war, let them do it on their dime, with
them of fighting it with their weapons or whatever the
Europeans want to give them. But as far as America
is concerned, we've given you hundreds of billions of dollars.

(06:22):
No more, no more military aid, no more intelligence, no
more financial assistance, not another single dime or penny. And
then let's see how tough Zelenski is, because, as Trump
told them, you can deal with me and it will
get you peace with honor, or eventually you can deal

(06:45):
with Vladimir Putin on your own. And you don't want
to deal with Vladimir Putin on your own. Zolensky is
now the obstacle to peace. If he wants this war,
he can have it. And when Ukraine loses, and it
will lose, then he and he alone is to blame.

(07:07):
President Trump do America and the world a large favor
walk allway. It's not our war, it's their war. Let
them fight it out.