A Brazen Targeted Attack

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, I want to go right back to Vincent Germany. Vince,
I just want to set it up for you, because
obviously you're you're a veteran, your ex military, yourself, you
can tell us exactly how professional this job was. So
according to what you said, and it's true. Daily Mail
is now reporting that detectives now investigating the shooting have

(00:22):
now reportedly found shell casings in which the words deny, defend, sorry, deny, depose,
and defend were inscribed on the bullets, and they believe
it is tied to a twenty ten book on why
insurance companies don't pay claims and what you can do

(00:45):
about it, called Delayy Defend. Apparently there have been a
lot of activists targeting United Healthcare saying they have not
been making payments on claims or delaying payments on claims,
and that he was getting a lot of death threats.
And apparently this book is by J. M. Feinneman, and

(01:07):
I'm looking at it right now. It's called Delay, Deny, defund, Sorry, delay, deny, Defend,
Why insurance companies don't pay claims and what you can
do about it. Now. What they're also saying, Vince, is
that the shooter knew every aspect of Thompson's schedule because

(01:28):
he was waiting for him at a particular door when
he was approaching the Hilton, that there were multiple doors
into the Hilton, so he knew exactly what door Brian
Thompson was heading into. And so they say this shows
not just that this was a targeted attack, but that

(01:49):
this person had considerable insight knowledge of his schedule. So
knowing everything now that we know, Vince, you're saying, number one,
he should not have gone into the Starbucks to buy
water and the power bars, even though he's wearing a mask,
that would still expose him to cameras and to surveillance footage.
And then we got cut off by the brake. So

(02:10):
please pick up where you left off.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, so you want to distance yourself as much as
you can from any bystanders, anybody that can identify you.
And you know these days with all sorts of electronic signature,
you know what I mean, either through your credit cards
or your phone anything. I mean, the less exposure the better.

(02:38):
He definitely knew his schedule, he definitely knew how to
identify him. So that shows a degree of insider knowledge.
I want to get back to the weapon used. The
silence or the fact that he had to recycle the
gun a couple times points to two things. Either he
was using subsonic ammunition or silencer wasn't completely seated on

(03:02):
the weapon properly, which would cause it to not be
able to cycle after each round shot. But any professional
would have practiced before he did that hit. He would
have practiced with the weapon used, with an ammunition to
be used, and with a silencer.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
So.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
That that shows that either a he wasn't familiar or
maybe he knew that that was going to be the
case and he went through went through the drills. But
the other thing too is the fact that they said
they recovered a water bottle. Well, right there, you can
pull DNA evidence off a water bottle, a cigarette butt.
It's not just about fingerprints and eyewitness identification. These days,

(03:46):
there are so many forensic signatures that the police can
pick up to trace back to this person. So I
think that the level of professionalism used is going to
be attributed to the number of mistakes that he made.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
And what you're saying is this, Vince, I'll please, I promise,
I'll let you finish. You're saying he's already made several
serious mistakes.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Correct, Yes, yes, I believe so I'm not a policeman.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
No, no, I get it.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I'm not a CSI. I don't watch CSI on
TV and think I know. Actually I hate it when
my wife watches that stuff, you.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Know what I mean. But she's an expert now right, No,
but you know, you know, it's like curiosity. But anyway,
the last thing I want to leave you with is
the psyche of the shooter. There's a fascinating book that
was written years ago. It's called On Killing, and it's
the Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and

(04:52):
Society by a Lieutenant Colonel David Grossman.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Who used to be a professor at West Point. I
actually his son. I served with his son, and that's
how he became familiar with the book. And it talks
about how the military programs you desensitizes you to kill,
all the way down to like the type of target
you used on the range, right, it's always a silhouette

(05:17):
target to desensitize you from shooting at a human shaped object.
So it doesn't necessarily say that the guy was a professional,
but he was definitely trained in.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Other words you're saying, most likely either ex military, ex
law enforcement, and your point, Vinces, the military almost trains
you to be desensitized to killing people. So this guy
could easily be ex military. He knows how to handle
a gun and would do it for whatever twenty five
or fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yes, And you know the thing. The signature to that
is the increase in post traumatic stress on military people.
It is because they've been desensitized and killing, and you
know that has second and third order effects after the fact.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Interesting, Vince, I always learned something when you call Vince.
Thank you very much for that call. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Couple lines are
open if you want to jump on. So here is
now the absolute latest latest latest information, my friends. According
now to law enforcement and the media, media reports, the

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gunman was at least a semi professional was waiting for
Brian Thompson at a specific door at the Hilton Hotel
where he was going to be talking at an investor's conference.
He was there for about five minutes. He had gone
to a Starbucks just before, purchased a bottle of water,
grabbed a couple of power bought a couple of power

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bars as well, and was wearing a black mask. Now
right away, you tell me if you agree or disagree
with this. You know, this is a consequence of COVID,
where it's just considered normal now. And you can see
the surveillance footage there he is out of Starbucks, you know,

(07:18):
dressed in you know, like dark clothes, but he's got
a mask covering most of his face and nobody thinks
anything of it. If you remember before COVID, if you
walk in with the mask, people think you're gonna hold
up the place. Right It's like, well, why is this
person of a mask on? I mean, it's not that
cold outside, it's not snowing, it's not a blizzard. But

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ever since COVID, it's normal now for people to walk
around and covering their face. And because it's normal to
cover your face, you can get away with crimes now
that you couldn't get away with before because your face
is mostly blocked or completely blocked. So there he is
with a mask, you know, cold, just see his eyes,

(08:01):
that's it. And he's buying water and he's buying a
couple of power bars. Now he is completely cool, calm,
he's got gloves. He walks behind Thompson and almost nonchalantly
puts a couple of bullets into him. Thompson falls on
the ground. He's trying to crawl for his life. Then

(08:25):
you can see the shooter go buy Thompson and put
one more bullet into him. Police now say they found
three live ammunition rounds nine millimeter, three spent ammunition rounds.
They say now that there were some ominous words inscribed
on the shell casings deny, depose, and defend, which they

(08:49):
believe is connected to a twenty ten book on how
insurance companies scam scam people out of their insurance claims.
Starting to look again, it's preliminary that this may have
been a hit related to United Healthcare denying claims to

(09:11):
an individual or a family or whoever. And they said,
you know what, we're going to pay this guy back.
You know what, one of ours dies, some one of
you is going to die.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
What is to me just mind boggling about this is
that in execution style. In Remember this is midtown Manhattan.
There are people, pedestrians, witnesses everywhere. It may be the
most surveilled place on the face of the earth. There
are surveillance cameras on every corner everywhere. He almost disappears

(09:51):
into thin air. I'm telling you, it's like a spy movie.
It's boom, boom, one more boom, and then run into
an alley. Now allegedly he drops his water bottle. They
can get DNA, and they believe a phone. They discovered
a phone. They did find the phone believe to be
linked to him, and I think they're trying to comb

(10:13):
through it right now. He then goes from the alley
quickly onto an e bike, an electric bike, and then
goes on the electric bike, which apparently you need a
prepaid whatever a credit card or a debit card or
a prepaid credit card to get to use, so they
could get information from that. But then is quickly bikes

(10:34):
himself over to bicycles over to Central Park. He's got
a gray backpack, presumably with clothes, and he's gone. He
disappears into the night or into the morning, forgive me,
and there was an intense man hut almost immediately. They're

(10:55):
not able thus far to find him or locate him.
It's like he just goes to himself. It's like he
just disappeared. Now, let me ask all of you. By
the way, he used a handgun illegal in most places
in New York. He used the silencer illegal in New

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York City. So that goes to show you right off
the bat gun control in the work. It doesn't work.
Stirling didn't stop this execution, that's for sure. Now what
I find amazing is we've given up so much of
our civil liberties in exchange for the promise of security,

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which is, well, we've got all this CCTV, this video
camera footage everywhere, every street, corner, by the way, Central Park,
they got drones. There's drones flying overhead all over Central Park.
So if it's not a camera watching you, it's a
drone watching you. And the argument is always made, well,

(12:02):
it's for increased safety, it's for increased security, or if
there is a crime, the footage will help us catch
the criminal. So far, I mean it may end up
catching the criminal. I don't want to prejudge anything, but
this guy commits a murder at six forty six am,

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and apparently, according to police, by six forty nine am
he's gone. He's in Central Park and they don't know
where he is. They can't track them, they can't find them.
And there's been now a massive men hunt underway now
for over twenty four hours, and it's like this guy,
as I said, just disappeared into the air. Six one

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seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number.
That's why I've been saying this for a long time.
Never exchange liberty for security. It was Benjamin Franklin that
warned us, because you end up getting neither, you end
up losing your liberty. And pretty much now, I mean

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they it's big brother, you walk down.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
I'm amazed, you go.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
You look at that surveillance footage, and I'm happy it's
there because we can at least potentially find him. Don't
get me wrong, but it covers everything. I mean really
it's you see everybody going very distinct faces. I mean,
your your every move is practically being trapped. So we've

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lost a lot of our privacy, a lot of our
civil liberties.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
And are we really much safer?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
John in Westford, Thanks for holding John, and welcome.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
Hi, good Moe, good morning, Hot Jachin. I think this
was mostly to send the message to other CEOs. I mean,
this guy was definitely a professional and why did he
pick New York City? I mean, an easy, a cleaner,
more professional way would have been just to take him
out with a rifle with a scope, you know, from

(14:12):
a distance in the country, get them always going into
a store. I mean the guy, he knew his pat
he knew his roots so well, he knew his life
so well. Did he deliberately chose the most difficult area
to take him out?

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Or John, just to reinforce what you're saying, you know,
the headquarters of United Healthcare is in what is it Minnesota? Minnesota?
I mean it's you know, you want to send a message,
if you know, if you you could have taken him
out in Minnesota. But you're right, you do it in
midtown Manhattan, and look at the message. It's one thing

(14:51):
to kill a CEO in Minnesota, especially in suburban Minnesota
or even rural Minnesota. It's in midtown and that kind
of a dramatic way. I mean, John, he's if he's
making a point, he's made it.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Absolutely?

Speaker 6 (15:07):
Yeah, it's to send a message.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
It's here.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
I mean, sixteen percent of our GDP is healthcare, and
who knows what he was into. It's a message to others.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Well, I mean apparently he was being investigated for insider
trading where they sold off over what is it, one
hundred and one million dollars in stock because they knew
there was going to be a huge probe for violating
antitrust laws, so they didn't even tell their own shareholders,
they didn't tell the public, and they said, you know what,
the stock price is going to bottom out. Let's sell

(15:44):
now and make money while we can. So he sold
stock I think was it over fifteen million dollars worth
of stock. He profited I think eleven million dollars himself
in his own pocket. One guy, I'll get your name
if you want eighty five million off of selling that stock.
And that's why now they were being investigated for insider trading,

(16:06):
and so shareholders felt, I mean, they felt defrauded. I
don't blame them, Like, think about it, John, Okay, just
you buy the stock price at fifty bucks. Let me
just make up a number. Now it's at one hundred.
But only a few CEOs know that you're going to
be investigated now for violating antitrust laws.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
So the CEOs are like, oh.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Man, if this gets out once the wall Street Journal
or Barons reports this. It's going to tank the stock price,
it's going to go down to twenty or ten dollars. Well,
we're going to lose our shirts. Let's sell now and
probably pocket the profit. But the shareholders and the employees
who have bought in stocks as well, they only find

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out when the world finds out three weeks later, and
by then the stock price has collapsed. So you bought
it at fifty, it's now worth ten bucks. You've lost
your shirt. But then you find out Brian Thompson put
eleven million dollars in his pocket. This other guy put
eighty five million dollars in his pocket. So they knew
this was coming and they took care of themselves but

(17:10):
left us holding the bag. I mean, I would be
pissed off if I were them too, wouldn't you? Six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight? Okay,
just very quickly. It has nothing to do with the
show or what happened in midtown or the murder of
Brian Thompson, or insurance companies or whatever. So I get

(17:30):
a call this is I'm still on the air. It's
about seven thirty nine, seven forty and I see it's
my daughter, Ava Coooner. So I'm like, hmm, I wonder
what's going on at home. So I wait till the
break to the commercial, you know, the whole bit, do
my spot, and then I call her, Ava, what's wrong, sweetheart?
Why are you calling daddy? You know I'm on the air.
This is my wonderful daughter, Daddy. It's really snowing here.

(17:55):
I just wanted to call to see if you made
it to work okay, and that you're all sound. I'm like, really,
because yeah, Daddy, I was so worried about you. And
then Grace gives me heck, when I get her whatever
she wants, how can I not get her whatever she wants? Huh?
I mean, look at this. Look at this, My own

(18:18):
daughter called. It's snowing, and she's thinking about me. You know,
that's that's why I spoil my daughter. How can I
not spoil my daughter? Anyway, let let that go. So,
as I was telling Mike after I got off the
phone with my wonderful daughter Eva, I said, Mike, I
swear this is like an episode out of Law and Order.

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Really like, so listen out of this. So we talked
about the insider trading and how they I mean they
they sold over one hundred million dollars worth of stock
because they knew an investigation from the Department of Justice
over violating antitrust laws was coming. So now they're selling
stock when they shouldn't be selling stock, and they defrauded

(19:03):
the company because the stock price completely collapsed. While they
all made out like bandits, one of them made out
to the tune of eighty five million dollars. Now it
looks like Brian Thompson put about eleven million in his pocket. Well,
this is a text I just got about a couple
minutes ago, from seven to eight to one, Jeff. Several

(19:26):
media outlets are now reporting United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson
was fatally shot yesterday in what authorities are describing as
a targeted attack. But here's the big key piece of information, Jeff.
He was under investigation by the Department of Justice for

(19:47):
insider trading and was going to accept a plea deal.
Now I don't know if that's true. I have to
verify it and corroborate it myself, but I'm sure seven
eight to one probably read it or heard it somewhere.
If he was going to accept a plea deal. And

(20:09):
I underlined the word if because we don't know. But if, well,
I'll tell you this. You know who I'm looking at
right now is my main suspects, like law and order.
I'm looking at the other guys, the other senior executives
who made out, I mean that was highway robbery, who

(20:32):
made out like bandits when they sold off all that
stock as part of this insider trading probe. Because if
Brian Thompson is going to spill the beans and say yes,
AB and C knew about the probe into the antitrust laws,
knew was going to tank the stock price, they made
a conspiracy to sell off all the stock so they

(20:55):
can make a ton of money. This was exactly exactly
what you're investigating him for. This was insider trading to
a t. And I'm willing to testify and turn state's evidence.
Then you've got a massive motive now for putting a
contract hit out on him. Now, again, speculation, But if

(21:16):
he was accepting a plea deal, Holy mackerel. You want
to talk about a motive. That's a motive and that
goes right to the top executives who are under investigation.
Six one, seven, two, six, six, sixty eight, sixty eight,
and just on a larger point, very quickly, and I
said this to Mike. Look, this is what's going to

(21:38):
kill this country. I'm telling you if if we don't
turn things around. There's just too much money, too much greed,
too much avarice, too much money. When you're talking about
all of this money sloshing around, and they can you know,
let's sell and make eighty five million million, Let's sell

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and make one hundred million, Let's sell and make one
hundred and twenty million. And you've got all this temptation
to break the law and defraud your shareholders and your employees.
And you know, do these insider trading gigs where you're
selling high because you know the thought price is going

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to go low because of actions that your company that
you actually took, and you know you're raking in fifty
sixty eighty one hundred million dollars. I mean a the
temptation to break the law is too great. Corruption and
then the temptation is start committing murder is too great

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because of corruption. And that, by the way, that's Russia,
that's Ukraine, that's Belo Russia or Belarus as it's now
called that's some of these Eastern European countries. To a t,
these are all powerful oligarchs who control powerful companies in
corporate operations where you've got billions of dollars slashing around.

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The temptation is just too great and that leads to
massive corruption, bribery, influence, peddling, and yes, contract killings, murder
six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
New York is now becoming Moscow SID in Middlesex. Thanks

(23:28):
for holding SID and welcome Jeff.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
How are you doing good?

Speaker 4 (23:33):
How are you SID too bad?

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Enjoy your show, Joy your show? Stop job. Well, so
you seem like a very well read person to me.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Ed.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
The FBI comes up multiple times on your show in
every which way but loose and probably a few billion
ever been thought of. Anyways, I got a book for
you about you want to talk about hitman killers in
the FBI? Going back a little bit, I come in
late from where I say, around one am, I put

(24:05):
on the satellite radio before you go to sleep. Jnori
was on from Coast to coast. He says, we have
a very special guest tonight. He goes the whole show.
The whole four hours is going to be with this author.
He goes, I very very rarely do that, but this
guy is going to prove me right. And he was.
I made some coffee and even though I got in

(24:27):
at one, I listened to the whole four hours. He
wrote a book called Deal with the Devil. And it's
about a guy here, guy in New York. He's a
Capito Scarpa gregg Scapper, not skaffer with a F. Scaffa
with a P. The f guy is in Philadelphia, this
guy in York. The things that he did for the FBI.

(24:54):
With the FBI, one real quick example, because I I'm
on a coffee run Mississippi burning years ago, the civil
rights the three kids that went missing.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yes, the civil rights kid in Mississippi. Yes, in the sixties.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
The FBI was under tremendous pressure to find the bodies,
to find out what happened. That, I mean, people knew
what happened. But anyways, their biggest lead was down in
a small town down south. The guy that ran the
klan down there, and he was insulated. Everybody in the town,

(25:28):
from the kids, the wives, everybody. No one was going
to say a word about him. They went and got
scopper in New York. The FBI brought him down there,
told him the story. He went and get in some
jeans and a T shirt, bought a pickup, went to
the guy's a client store. I want to buy a
fridge or a washer, and by myself, can you help

(25:52):
me loaded? He goes, yeah, pull around back, pulls around back.
If the guy takes him somewhere, torture them to the
end of Earth, find so he need stuck? Is it
to the FBI? They bring them back to New York.
And that's just just the taste of what's in this book.
It's very thick, and the author very very like how

(26:13):
Stephen King writes, very descriptive, going on and on and on.
And this guy Scott, but he makes the ahole from
South Boston look like a girl scout. And you'll read
this and if you don't say wow, I'll buy you
a stake where you would, well.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Sid, I can just tell you this. I mean, the
FBI has always been notorious. It's a den of thieves
and criminals. And you know Whitey Bulger, as you know,
work with the FBI. It's notorious. And he did all
kinds of killings, They didn't care. He was pushing drugs
that were literally killing children, killing children. They didn't care,
kids were overdosing. They didn't care as long as he

(26:52):
kept giving them information. That day wanted against the mob
in the North End. And you know, Whitey famously said
the FBI is worse than the gangs. They're worse than
we are. They're worse than organized crime. So you know,
I'm not shocked. That's why I look, honestly, we need
I don't want to get sidetracked.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
We need cash. Pattel Cash.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Btel is gonna you know his book Government Gangsters, just
the title says it. All the gangsters now are running
the government. And really, the FBI is a mafia state.
That's what it's become. The dj is essentially a mafia state,
and like a mafia don You've got now Joe Biden, this,

(27:37):
I mean, his story's everywhere. He's now seriously considering preemptive
pardons for everybody. Jack Smith pardon for him, Liz Cheney
pardon for her, Adam Schiff pardon for him. He's a
senator now, for God's sake, what is a senator need
a pardon for? He's just going Fauci a pardon, Chris

(27:57):
Ray a pardon, James a pardon. So they're gonna pardon everybody.
He's gonna partner his whole family. So it's obvious now
what's happening. They don't want Trump to expose the swamp,
which is not really a swamp.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
It's a cesspool. And look, Sid, I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
We talked of a lot about what you know yesterday
about Pete hegg Seth. He came out saying he's gonna
fight this thing to the end. He's not gonna give up.
Trump has his back. He's gonna force this fight to
the fight like hell for the confirmation. He's gonna get confirmed.
He wants to be the next Secretary of Defense. But
I'm warning everybody, if they can kill Pete hegg Seth,

(28:39):
they're gonna go after Robert F. Kennedy, and after Robert F. Kennedy,
they're gonna go after Tulsa Gabbert and after Tulca Gabbard.
Trust me, the big prize is gonna be Cash Petel.
They're not gonna stop until they tank the nomination of
Cash Patel. So Trump has to realize if he cuts

(29:00):
Pete hegseeth loose. They're going to go after RFK, then
they're going to go after Tulsi, and then they're going
to go after Cash Pattel because the swamp is going
to protect the swamp at all costs. So yeah, they're vicious.
They're absolutely vicious, Sid, And that to me is the
scariest thing of all. We have criminals and corrupt traders,

(29:25):
political gangsters running all of our key institutions, and I
think that's the ultimate reason why Trump won the country.
Now senses we're on the wrong track and if we
don't stop this now, it's going to be too late.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Final word to you, Sid, See how deep you could
dig it to this rebel? When the a Hall from
Southeast brother, they subpoened him to Congress and he refused,
then they compelled him and he had to go there.
Of that, yes, okay, On his way there, George Bush

(30:05):
sealed as national security stuff about the Ahle's brother. Well,
what was so important that he sealed? That's true? Look
it up, find out what the hell he sealed. And
there's tuestaks for you.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Sid, and go ahead, finish, Please finish your point.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Go ahead, I'm gonna let you go you were talking
about Belarus. Probably, uh, five books to go. I got
a book called The Belarus Secret by John Locket. It's
about the Pathports. I don't know whether you've read it
or not. I look, I look forward to reading it.
It's about the how they you know, the ratlines, the
pathports to think.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
See what happens now said is when you read books
on Belar, Russia, or Russia or Ukraine or any of
these other you know, Eastern European hell holes.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
You know, it's like you're like, oh.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
My god, it's instead of Mints, which is the capital
of Belarus, it's like Manhattan. It's just you can replace
mince But or Moscow with Manhattan. It's just am I
in Russia or in Belarus or Kiev, or am I
in New York or Boston. It's just that's what's starting
to happen. That's why we need Trump Yesterday. I'm like,

(31:19):
I'm a come on, let's go January twentieth, let's go,
let's go. I mean, I love Chris, miss I love
to spend time with the family, but honestly, I'm like,
let's get this inauguration going. Come on, let's go, let's go.
Speed up the clock.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Here go.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Tanya in Boston. Thanks for holding Tanya, and welcome. I
guess hi, Tanya.

Speaker 7 (31:44):
Hi, Well, you know, this whole insider training thing is
is definitely coming out, and I think that's what happened
with this guy. You know, initially, you know, just from
listening to your show, you know, I came.

Speaker 8 (31:59):
In for a split second thinking, Okay, maybe this guy
wanted to be caught. Maybe he had a terminal disease
himself that he got denied and he's just like fu,
you know, I'm done, or maybe he had a family member.
But now you know, we're I'm twenty thirty minutes into
your show, and all this other stuff is starting to
come out of the woodwork about insider trading and play

(32:21):
deals and this and that, and I guess we'll find
out more in the next couple of hours. But if
that's the case, you know, guess what they learned from
the best are wonderful federal government doing the exact same thing.
So you know, I think this is just a tip
of the iceberg. And I think a lot of CEOs
and a lot of corruption and a lot of stuff

(32:41):
is going to start coming out with all these other companies.
I mean, healthcare is a huge thing. You've got plenty
of CEOs making tons and tons of money. And yeah,
everybody wants to go into business and they want to
make money. But this company, this company, their healthcare is garbage.
And they went and got off all these smaller companies

(33:03):
bought them out, and now they're profiting four hundred and
fifty billion dollars. Give me a break. You're not supposed
to profit like that. And healthcare, you know, and you know,
what's what is this like? Like do you ever watch
the movie The rain Maker, where you know, it's all
about insurance broad and how they automatically deny everybody at once,

(33:23):
hoping that on their first attempt, hoping that they'll find
another way to get money and they'll you know, there
were statistics that said that, oh, well, patients are denied.
They kind of just feel like they're at a loss
cause and what else do they do? Some die, some
get money from a friend, some you know, other things
come up, but majority of them won't fight it and

(33:45):
do the appeals and complain in this and that and
take all that effort to do that. And it's like,
what is that? What United Healthcare is doing, you know,
is it a rain maker story here? And now we've
got all the insider trading going on. So I'll bet
you if some if somebody paid that guy to shoot him,
it's probably one of those guys that made a ton
of money, and those guys are probably going to protect

(34:07):
this guy. That guy's probably long gone another country by
now for as far as we know.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Well, you know, that's a very interesting point because I mean,
the way this guy's just fallen off the face of
the earth, it's really eerie, it really is. But Tanya,
I want to return to something you said about the corruption, uh,
and not just in healthcare but across you know, corporate America,
which is completely true and the government, the government's correct.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
See, the elites are corrupt.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
That's what political elites, media elites, our media, and our
economic corporate elites, and Hollywood are cultural elites. So all
our elites are completely corrupt. Very different from how you
and I live, how we live our lives just in
every way.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Okay, But I just want to go back to something
you touched on.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
I'm just going now by what the media is reporting,
according to the media, and I don't be grudge anybody
there salary Brian Thompson made, to be specific, nine point
nine million dollars a year. Ten million, let's not quibble.
And he's been making this kind of money now for
several years now. He lives in what is in Minnesoka, Minnesota.

(35:18):
Not to knock down Minnesoka, but it's not a high
cost it's a low cost living. So he lived in
a one million dollar mansion, which in Minnesoka, I'm telling you,
is like twenty million here in Boston. It was a
massive mansion. I can't tell you how many bathrooms, how
many bedrooms. I mean, I don't be grudge them, but

(35:39):
I'm saying a million dollars in Minnesoka buys you whatever
you can possibly want. Okay, it's a dream mansion. How
much more money do you need? Again, I don't begrudge
anybody working hard and making money, but you gotta then
get involved in insider trading, like just what I'm saying,

(36:00):
you're making tens and tens of millions of dollars. He's
got a boat, him and his wife. There's pictures of
him on the boat with the wife and the kids.
You've got a boat, You've got multiple luxury cars, You've
got a mansion, you're you're living in Minnesota, Minnesota, which
is so low cost of living, you can buy anything
you want. And you still got to get involved in

(36:23):
insider trading and defraud your fellow employees and shareholders and
put another eleven million in your pocket. Again, these are
all allegations, Okay, ye, a dead man can't defend himself.
What I'm just saying is the effing greed. That's what
I find sickening. Final word to you, Tanya.

Speaker 8 (36:47):
Yeah, and I you know, I read about that and
I saw, you know, he posts on Instagram. I loved,
but you know, I didn't know who this guy was
two days ago until you know, till I was came
out and then I read, you know all he loves
voting with his kids and his wife, and well, I'm sorry,
but you're making you and your executives were making a
lot of decisions that affected people's lives, first of all.

(37:09):
And I don't have United Healthcare, but I'm a pharmacist.
I dealt with United Healthcare with insurances for twenty years
and it's a nightmare. And to see to hear this
and to know that these people are at the level
where they could make changes for the people that have
to have this insurance. And then to hear everything that's

(37:31):
coming out of the woodwork. I'm sorry, but it just
makes me sick to hear that, Oh, you love voting
with your kids, you love this, you love that. It's like,
are you not thinking about what seat you're sitting at
and how many other people in this country could have
those same pleasures like you have if you had not
done this crooked the way you.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Did, King excellent. I couldn't have said it better myself, Tanya,
And not even that. Just give them a care, give
them covering, you give them insurance. I mean, just how
do you sleep at yourself with that? You know, honestly,
how do you how do you sleep with yourself at night?
How do you look at yourself in the mirror? Okay,
you're living in his palace and you've got the boating
and your trips and travel and and you know you've

(38:14):
rich beyond your wildest imagination, But look at the people
you've buried. I mean, have you no fear of God
that you're going to meet your maker and be held accountable.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
For all this?

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Yeh, yes, it's great. I'm telling you, it's it's America's
vice