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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, this could be literally the tightest Cooner country pole
question ever in the entire history of this show. It
is right now forty nine percent A Yes, fifty one
percent B No, and it keeps changing slightly back and forth.
(00:22):
So the poll question of the day is, did President Trump,
in your view, go too far in saying that the
murder of Rob Reiner was caused by trump derangement syndrome,
thereby causing his son to murder him and his wife. That's,
(00:44):
of course, caused a massive firestorm, tremendous criticism from so
many people, not just you know, on the media, which
you expect the Democrats Hollywood, but even from many Republicans.
And so my question to you do you think Trump
went too far? Or do you think he was just
telling the truth? Six one seven two six six sixty
(01:07):
eight sixty eight lines are on fire. Barry in New Bedford.
Thanks for holding Barry.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Thank you. Jeff. You ask a great question what a
line crossed with Trump's comments? And there is no line.
And I'm going to tell you when that line disappeared.
That line disappeared years ago when a president went down
to a memorial service for six murdered police officers and
told everybody in that audience and the TVs that were
filming it, that they were responsible for the murder of
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those cops, not the shoot her. So there is no
line as far as Trump goes. And let me just
let me open this a little bit more. For twenty
five plus years, Robin Michelle winer with Trump's friends, as
was Barbara Streis and as wass Hollywood in the media.
Michelle I think his wife even worked on Trump's book.
The twenty five plus years. That man was your friend,
(02:01):
You partied with him, you hung out with him, he
even donated to your causes and helped you. And all
of a sudden, one election in twenty sixteen, they suddenly
disown you. And not just he's not your friend, We're
not talking blocking your phone number. You go on a crusade,
calling him hitler, satan, you want him jailed and hung,
(02:22):
and you want his kids dirested. His supporters attacked every day,
and that social media posts everything, that rhetoric and fire
gets amplified every day till now and then all of
a sudden, unfortunately miss Reiner and are are murdered, and
(02:42):
Trump puts out that statement and there's suddenly a firestorm
over it, which makes me laugh. That didn't come from
President Trump, Jeff. That came from Donald Trump, because at
the end of the day, he's not President Trump. He's
Donald Trump. And Donald Trump's always spoken from the cuff.
And last year you were two inches away from being
a death. They would have celebrated all over the United
(03:03):
States on social media and everywhere. So how do you
think he feels after twenty five years those people turn
on you who you thought they were your friends. As
a human, You're going to put that tweet out because
that's how you feel. I don't know how a president.
Maybe it's wrong, but there is no line to cross, Jeff.
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Barack Obama destroyed that line a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Barry, I got to say, very riveting, very emotional, very powerful,
and very riveting.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Barry.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Let me ask you this just because to add to
your list, I think maybe of all of the wounds
that hurt Trump the most, frum And you're right. Rob
Reiner and Trump were friends for many years. His Rob
Reiner's wife, Michelle Singer, helped you literally the photograph the
cover of Trump's breakout book, Art of the Deal. That
(04:00):
cover that's the work of Rob Reiner's wife, Michelle. So
they were very close and they went to family functions together.
They ate together, they broke bread together, They helped each other.
Trump in particular, helped Rob Reiner with many of his projects.
And I think the one that really wounded Trump the most, yeah,
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calling him hitler, racist, mentally unfit, the most unqualified man
to ever be president, you know. But it was when
he spent millions of his own money. This is Reiner, now,
Rob Reiner, millions of dollars his own money to team
up with the CIA, with members of the Obama administration,
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with other far left anti Trump journalists, and that was
to create something called the Committee to Investigate Russia. It
was a big thing in his first term, and the
goal was to convince the public and convinced the media
and convinced people on Capitol Hill that Trump was a
secret agent of Russia. So if you notice, I can
(05:09):
play you the cut again, okay, But if you notice
when he's asked about the by a reporter, well, do
you want to walk your post back? And he says no,
I wasn't a big fan of him. And if you say, well,
what did he say, right? What did he say about
Rob Reiner? And he said, well, he pushed a Russia
collusion hoax. Notice he didn't say he called me hitler,
(05:32):
or he called me a white supremacist, or he called
me a racist, or you know, he cheered when they
shot at me in Butler and said, you know, oh,
it's a shame they missed. The one that's stuck in
his craw was he wanted to frame me as an
agent of Russia because I think he knew, of course
not I think I know he knows. President Trump knows
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how much money Rob Reiner poured into that effort.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Word to you, Barry, let me just say this.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Anybody who's human, it has emotions. Who's out there right now.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Barry, do me a favor, you know, Mike, would it
kill you to be just a little flexible? I mean, seriously, Okay,
let's go right back to Barry in New Bedford. Barry,
you're saying, look, let Donald Trump be Donald Trump. After
everything the Democrats, the media, the left, Hollywood, and people
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like Rob Reiner have done to him. If he wants
to hit him back and hit him back hard, he's
got every right.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
To do so. Please Barry, finish your final point.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Go ahead, Okay, at the end of the day, if
you're a Democrat Republican, I don't care Trump supporter, not
Trump supporter. If you're a greatest friend in the world
of twenty five plus years, did this to you? Anybody,
the friends that you've lived your whole life, what you
grew up with, did this to you as a human being,
(07:05):
as an emotional being, You're not just never going to
forgive them. But then something happens. Listen, that was Donnie
Trump speaking from the cuff. He's always done this. I'm
not shocked what he said. It's kind of dark, sarcastic humor,
and it's dry. But I will defend Trump on this
to the day I die, because we all are human
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and we all feel that way. And what they did
to him for twenty five years, I'm sorry. I can't
let that go. If my friend did it to me,
and my best friend in the world I grew up
with did this to me and then tried to get
me killed and I almost got killed and tries to
told me in jail for nothing other than political reasons.
I'm never going to forgive that person. And even that
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comment like that, I would probably make it. I don't
care what people think of me because they weren't coming
after me. They weren't coming after my kings and my supporters.
They were trying to destroy my life for political I
didn't do anything to Rob. What did I do to
Rob Reiner? If I'm Donald Trump? Nothing I offended them
because I won an election. And that's that's the That's
(08:10):
the real statement here. Jeff Trump's a human like everybody else,
you know. So you know what, if you're gonna rip him, fine,
he doesn't care. He's not running for office anymore after this.
He's done in three years, so he doesn't care what
he says now because it's not going to affect him
at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
No, I hear you, No, Barry, Look, I got to say,
you're you're It's very passionate call.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
It's a very powerful call.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I just want to ask you this what I care about,
and I'm sure you do as well. And I think,
to be fair, this is the fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Again.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I've never seen the audience this splint ever, ever, ever, ever,
So I want to see all the poll ends. It's
like a you know, we're running going down to you know,
we're down to the down to the finish here, but
you know, down the stretch they come, as they say.
But so I want to see, you know what the
final result is. But what I care about is his
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second term. I care about his next three years. I
care about his agenda. I know you do as well.
And I don't want to see him weakened.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
That's to me as the key.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I want him to be as popular, be as strong
as possible, and not commit a self inflicted wound because
the stakes are so high. This is about the country, right,
it's not just about Trump. And so my question to
you is this, and I'm playing devil's advocate. You're right
as a human being. I understand as a man. I
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understand as a friend. I understand he felt profoundly betrayed.
But he's not just that. He is that, but he's
also something else. He's the president of the United States,
and sometimes the president of the United States has to
have a certain amount of self control and self restraint
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for the good of his agenda, for the good of
his presidency, for the good of his party. And the
argument is that this has hurt Trump. It's undermind Trump,
And to just finish this, I'm getting literally emails to
this effect. Jeff, if Cooner Country is split right down
(10:17):
the middle, it shows you it was a self inflicted wound.
Cooner Country is ninety nine point nine behind Trump. So
if Cooner Country is right down the middle, riven fractured
fifty to fifty, maybe Trump put his foot in his mouth.
(10:39):
I'm just curious. What's your answer to that, Barry.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I kind of look at this way. If you say, well,
he stepped on a rake. He's been stepping on rake
since he got an office. This rake's everywhere. I agree
with the agenda. He wants to be successful. It doesn't
matter what he does because the media and the social
media and the people and the Democrats are going to
continue to run the same line. The problem, Jeff is
(11:08):
he's almost a year into his office and the day
he walked in again everything. It doesn't matter what he does.
I said before he could low he could lower grocery prices.
You and I would care about it, but the media
would spend it and the Amplification would spin it. Trump's
in a no win situation, and I keep saying this.
When he brings peace to Ukraine and the war in Ukraine,
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he'll get criticized. He'll end the war in the Middle East,
He'll get criticized. He'll bring inflation down, He'll get criticized.
The jobs of foot will come out, Oh look good,
He'll get criticized. The man is literally he's surrounded by
a sea of rakes, and it doesn't matter what he does,
He's going to walk into one regardless because he's in
some simes, Jeff, he's playing in a no win situation
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because the perception of him has never changed since the
day he won his first term, and it gets amplified
even more now. So this this is another uh. What
he said at Rob Reiner is another thing they're just
going to use against them. He could have said the
nicest thing possible. He could have said, rest in piece,
Robin Michelle Reiner, and the comments would have been you
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hated them anyway, you hate him anyway. He could say
the nice thing.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You're a hypocrite, you're a phony, You're just another politician.
You say things you don't really mean, right, I mean,
that's let's be honest, Barry. That's if he said something nice,
they would have hit him. If he attacks him, they
would have hit him.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Barry.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Maybe the best thing would have been just to say nothing.
I want to give you ultimate final word.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Go Barry, it is.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
This is gonna blow over and there'll be something else
they'll bring up, you know what I mean. My only
advice to him in to say this, because he doesn't
say it all the time. I know he speaks from
the cuff. But when he doubled down on this, he
should have been brutally honest and said that man wanted
me dead. That's all you got to do. Just tell
the media is going to spin it anyway, but you
talked about the Russia thing. Just spit it out. Tell
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the truth. He helped fund the group to get your
throne in jail. He's been trying to Tory and jail
f is. And he was your friend for twenty five years.
Make it cluded everybody across the United States of America
in the world. But the people you think, who ain't
you were your friend for twenty five years. That makes
them look bad. It makes them look like the hypocrites.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Barry, Barry, is this your first time calling before? Bat Barry?
Don't be a stranger my friend. Call more often and
very merry Christmas, Barry, Thank you so much for that call.
Nancy on the North Shore. Thanks for holding Nancy and welcome.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Thank you, Jef. Can you hear me.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Loud and clear? Go ahead, Nancy?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Okay, So my issue is I don't care what Trump says,
I don't care what Rob Reiner says. People are missing
the biggest, most horrific point in this is that son
was a drug addict and severely mentally ill. Should we
say it, Lizzie Borden took an axe. I mean that
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went down in infamy. Nobody cared what Lizzie Borden's parents,
you know, political affiliation is this kid was severely mentally ill,
severely a drug addict, and people should be focusing on
helping those people. Even Rob Winer said, I can't help
my kid even with all the money.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
In the world.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
We need to focus on that. Two cases in points.
Look at the friends guy, you know, drug overdose, you know,
and was fueled by by drugs and you know, uh
what the call doctors given him that stuff. He had
all the money in the world, He could have gone
himself sober. What about the I don't know if it
was the ex mayor or city council down the new
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Medstane walking down the street, Alonatik jumps out stabs him
in the neck. He literally almost died. And he came
out and said, we've got to take these people off
the street. We got to get the asylums back. And
Reidner had a kid on that compound. He could have
been walking amongst any of us. The amount of rage
that you have to stab both your parents to death
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is horrific, and nobody is focusing on that. I don't
care about politics. The drugs and the mental in the
illness in this country is rampant, and Trump needs to
address that. That's what he needs to post is that
this is a horrible thing that should never ever have
happened to anybody, and I'm going to do something about it.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well, that's an excellent point. I mean, that's an absolutely
excellent point. And in fact, he could have said, now
you know why I'm blowing all these boats out of
the water, right and you know, in the Caribbean, and
I'm trying to stop the flow from Venezuela and from
Colombia and from Mexico, and because I don't want to
see more instances of what just happens. Say to Rob
Reiner and his wife Michelle Nancy, I want.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
To ask you this.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
From everything I've read, and nobody knows what really happens
inside a family, right, we're just all outsiders. But apparently
this goes back seventeen years. Yes he was in rehab
in and out all the time. Yes he suffered from
mental health issues. But apparently the son felt he could
never live up to the father. That the father was
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very prolific, he just couldn't live up to it. That
he felt the father neglected him, that the father was
more involved in political activism in his career than caring
about his son. His son hated him, felt ignored neglected
by him. You know, is it just drugs? You said
it for you to kill your own father and your
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own mother. I don't think it's just the drugs. I mean,
I could be wrong, but yeah, I know some addicts
can be violent. Jeff Kuhner, Boston's bulldozer six one seven
two six sex six sixty eight is the number.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
This is a text my personal phone from my wonderful
sister in law. She lives in Scottsdale, Arizona, And so
the whole family's now weighing in. My sister's weighed in
Grays has weighed in, and now Laurie has weighed in.
And this is what Laurie wrote to me. Jeff rob
Reiner's politics were vile, regardless his murder and that of
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his wife was tragic. Trump's comments will only continue to
put targets on the backs of innocent conservatives like Ella Cook.
For those of you that don't know who Ella Cook is,
she was the first victim that was killed by the
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mass shooter at Brown University on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
She was the head.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Of the or the vice president of the Young Republicans,
the only conservative group on Brown University's campus. So Laurie says,
this will continue to put targets on people like innocent
conservatives like Ella Cook. You don't need to be a
statesman to get this given recent violent events, Our humanity
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as individuals made in the image and likeness of God
should always come first. True change, Jeff, will only occur
if we behave and speak in contrast to the radical
left and not to start becoming like them. Interesting Sheldon
(18:45):
in situate, Thanks for holding Sheldon and welcome.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I can't say it better than your sister in law
just said it, But first of all, I have to
say this, Jeff, Your bumper music is the best in
the business. We all have to agree on that.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh thank you, that's Mike.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
But I wish you hadn't said that. He's already got
a swollen head. His head's just going to get bigger.
Now you're empowering a monster, Sheldon, Jeff, go ahead, go ahead,
my friend.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
This past weekend, we witnessed the tragic shooting in BONDI beats,
we watched what happened in Providence, and then we watch
parents be killed by their own son. There's mental illness,
there's hate, there's evil in this world. And you said
earlier that we have to judge Trump by his actions.
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I agree with that those of us that have voted
for him. I understand what you're saying, but we want
that agenda to continue, not just for three years, but
for thirty years. We want thirty years of putting our
country back to what it needs to be, and comments
like that are not helpful in doing so. I get
it to Rob. Ryaner and him didn't agree on anything.
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They do have one thing in common, they're both parents.
All he had to do was come out and say, listen,
I don't agree with him at all, but he's a parent.
We need to be better in this country. But to
come out and say that simply pour gasoline on the fire.
And it's simply tit for tat with people that, yes,
they're always going to go low, and we need to
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be way better than that. We need to make America
civil and understanding and respectful and try and win some
of them, not all of them, but some of them
over to our side.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Sheldon, I'm just curious. Do you think that there will
be any damage to Trump from this or do you
think you know, it's happened in the past. He said
some things, It created a big firestorm, massive backlash, but
then people move on whatever, They forget about it, or
it ends up, you know, sound and fury signifying nothing.
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Do you think this time he's hurt himself or do
you think this will blow over like it has in
the past.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I think both is going to happen. Yes, he's hurt
himself again with not with those of us that have
voted for him over and over again, but with those
that hate him. They won't listen to anything you have
to say.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Now.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
They'll say, look at what he said about a guy
that was killed by his own kid. The problem is
it's just another brick in the wall. Dividing us is
the issue, in my opinion, when we should be looking
to tear down that wall.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You know that.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I look at Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stealia. They disagreed,
but they found common ground. Reagan and Tip O'Neil disagreed
but found common ground. We no longer try and find
common ground. We just try and crush the other side
as much as we can. And liberal is much more
so than conservatives. But it's a frustrating place we are
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in this country when when the leader of the free
war comes out with that comment instead of trying to
unite us in some way.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I hear you, Sheldon, very wise words, Sheldon, thank you
very much for that call.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Okay, let me squeeze one more.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
In Lois in Pennsylvania, Lois, I hate to do this
to you.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I've got one minute. The floor is yours.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Go.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Okay. Trump was telling the truth. I'm glad he was
able to respond to it. Now he can close the
book on it. People have no idea what that man
went through, and they expect him to stand.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Up and just ignore it.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Sorry, that's why I love Donald Trump the way he is.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So you're saying, don't apologize, don't retract. He said what
he had to say and just move on.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yep, Lois, thank you very much for that call. I
really appreciate it. Okay, honestly outstanding show.
Okay, this could be literally the tightest Cooner country pole
question ever in the entire history of this show. It
is right now forty nine percent A Yes, fifty one
percent B No, and it keeps changing slightly back and forth.
(00:22):
So the poll question of the day is, did President Trump,
in your view, go too far in saying that the
murder of Rob Reiner was caused by trump derangement syndrome,
thereby causing his son to murder him and his wife. That's,
(00:44):
of course, caused a massive firestorm, tremendous criticism from so
many people, not just you know, on the media, which
you expect the Democrats Hollywood, but even from many Republicans.
And so my question to you do you think Trump
went too far? Or do you think he was just
telling the truth? Six one seven two six six sixty
(01:07):
eight sixty eight lines are on fire. Barry in New Bedford.
Thanks for holding Barry.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Thank you. Jeff. You ask a great question what a
line crossed with Trump's comments? And there is no line.
And I'm going to tell you when that line disappeared.
That line disappeared years ago when a president went down
to a memorial service for six murdered police officers and
told everybody in that audience and the TVs that were
filming it, that they were responsible for the murder of
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those cops, not the shoot her. So there is no
line as far as Trump goes. And let me just
let me open this a little bit more. For twenty
five plus years, Robin Michelle winer with Trump's friends, as
was Barbara Streis and as wass Hollywood in the media.
Michelle I think his wife even worked on Trump's book.
The twenty five plus years. That man was your friend,
(02:01):
You partied with him, you hung out with him, he
even donated to your causes and helped you. And all
of a sudden, one election in twenty sixteen, they suddenly
disown you. And not just he's not your friend, We're
not talking blocking your phone number. You go on a crusade,
calling him hitler, satan, you want him jailed and hung,
(02:22):
and you want his kids dirested. His supporters attacked every day,
and that social media posts everything, that rhetoric and fire
gets amplified every day till now and then all of
a sudden, unfortunately miss Reiner and are are murdered, and
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Trump puts out that statement and there's suddenly a firestorm
over it, which makes me laugh. That didn't come from
President Trump, Jeff. That came from Donald Trump, because at
the end of the day, he's not President Trump. He's
Donald Trump. And Donald Trump's always spoken from the cuff.
And last year you were two inches away from being
a death. They would have celebrated all over the United
(03:03):
States on social media and everywhere. So how do you
think he feels after twenty five years those people turn
on you who you thought they were your friends. As
a human, You're going to put that tweet out because
that's how you feel. I don't know how a president.
Maybe it's wrong, but there is no line to cross, Jeff.
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Barack Obama destroyed that line a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Barry, I got to say, very riveting, very emotional, very powerful,
and very riveting.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Barry.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Let me ask you this just because to add to
your list, I think maybe of all of the wounds
that hurt Trump the most, frum And you're right. Rob
Reiner and Trump were friends for many years. His Rob
Reiner's wife, Michelle Singer, helped you literally the photograph the
cover of Trump's breakout book, Art of the Deal. That
(04:00):
cover that's the work of Rob Reiner's wife, Michelle. So
they were very close and they went to family functions together.
They ate together, they broke bread together, They helped each other.
Trump in particular, helped Rob Reiner with many of his projects.
And I think the one that really wounded Trump the most, yeah,
(04:21):
calling him hitler, racist, mentally unfit, the most unqualified man
to ever be president, you know. But it was when
he spent millions of his own money. This is Reiner, now,
Rob Reiner, millions of dollars his own money to team
up with the CIA, with members of the Obama administration,
(04:45):
with other far left anti Trump journalists, and that was
to create something called the Committee to Investigate Russia. It
was a big thing in his first term, and the
goal was to convince the public and convinced the media
and convinced people on Capitol Hill that Trump was a
secret agent of Russia. So if you notice, I can
(05:09):
play you the cut again, okay, But if you notice
when he's asked about the by a reporter, well, do
you want to walk your post back? And he says no,
I wasn't a big fan of him. And if you say, well,
what did he say, right? What did he say about
Rob Reiner? And he said, well, he pushed a Russia
collusion hoax. Notice he didn't say he called me hitler,
(05:32):
or he called me a white supremacist, or he called
me a racist, or you know, he cheered when they
shot at me in Butler and said, you know, oh,
it's a shame they missed. The one that's stuck in
his craw was he wanted to frame me as an
agent of Russia because I think he knew, of course
not I think I know he knows. President Trump knows
(05:55):
how much money Rob Reiner poured into that effort.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Word to you, Barry, let me just say this.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Anybody who's human, it has emotions. Who's out there right now.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Barry, do me a favor, you know, Mike, would it
kill you to be just a little flexible? I mean, seriously, Okay,
let's go right back to Barry in New Bedford. Barry,
you're saying, look, let Donald Trump be Donald Trump. After
everything the Democrats, the media, the left, Hollywood, and people
(06:31):
like Rob Reiner have done to him. If he wants
to hit him back and hit him back hard, he's
got every right.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
To do so. Please Barry, finish your final point.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Go ahead, Okay, at the end of the day, if
you're a Democrat Republican, I don't care Trump supporter, not
Trump supporter. If you're a greatest friend in the world
of twenty five plus years, did this to you? Anybody,
the friends that you've lived your whole life, what you
grew up with, did this to you as a human being,
(07:05):
as an emotional being, You're not just never going to
forgive them. But then something happens. Listen, that was Donnie
Trump speaking from the cuff. He's always done this. I'm
not shocked what he said. It's kind of dark, sarcastic humor,
and it's dry. But I will defend Trump on this
to the day I die, because we all are human
(07:25):
and we all feel that way. And what they did
to him for twenty five years, I'm sorry. I can't
let that go. If my friend did it to me,
and my best friend in the world I grew up
with did this to me and then tried to get
me killed and I almost got killed and tries to
told me in jail for nothing other than political reasons.
I'm never going to forgive that person. And even that
(07:48):
comment like that, I would probably make it. I don't
care what people think of me because they weren't coming
after me. They weren't coming after my kings and my supporters.
They were trying to destroy my life for political I
didn't do anything to Rob. What did I do to
Rob Reiner? If I'm Donald Trump? Nothing I offended them
because I won an election. And that's that's the That's
(08:10):
the real statement here. Jeff Trump's a human like everybody else,
you know. So you know what, if you're gonna rip him, fine,
he doesn't care. He's not running for office anymore after this.
He's done in three years, so he doesn't care what
he says now because it's not going to affect him
at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
No, I hear you, No, Barry, Look, I got to say,
you're you're It's very passionate call.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
It's a very powerful call.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I just want to ask you this what I care about,
and I'm sure you do as well. And I think,
to be fair, this is the fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Again.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I've never seen the audience this splint ever, ever, ever, ever,
So I want to see all the poll ends. It's
like a you know, we're running going down to you know,
we're down to the down to the finish here, but
you know, down the stretch they come, as they say.
But so I want to see, you know what the
final result is. But what I care about is his
(09:02):
second term. I care about his next three years. I
care about his agenda. I know you do as well.
And I don't want to see him weakened.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
That's to me as the key.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I want him to be as popular, be as strong
as possible, and not commit a self inflicted wound because
the stakes are so high. This is about the country, right,
it's not just about Trump. And so my question to
you is this, and I'm playing devil's advocate. You're right
as a human being. I understand as a man. I
(09:35):
understand as a friend. I understand he felt profoundly betrayed.
But he's not just that. He is that, but he's
also something else. He's the president of the United States,
and sometimes the president of the United States has to
have a certain amount of self control and self restraint
(09:56):
for the good of his agenda, for the good of
his presidency, for the good of his party. And the
argument is that this has hurt Trump. It's undermind Trump,
And to just finish this, I'm getting literally emails to
this effect. Jeff, if Cooner Country is split right down
(10:17):
the middle, it shows you it was a self inflicted wound.
Cooner Country is ninety nine point nine behind Trump. So
if Cooner Country is right down the middle, riven fractured
fifty to fifty, maybe Trump put his foot in his mouth.
(10:39):
I'm just curious. What's your answer to that, Barry.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I kind of look at this way. If you say, well,
he stepped on a rake. He's been stepping on rake
since he got an office. This rake's everywhere. I agree
with the agenda. He wants to be successful. It doesn't
matter what he does because the media and the social
media and the people and the Democrats are going to
continue to run the same line. The problem, Jeff is
(11:08):
he's almost a year into his office and the day
he walked in again everything. It doesn't matter what he does.
I said before he could low he could lower grocery prices.
You and I would care about it, but the media
would spend it and the Amplification would spin it. Trump's
in a no win situation, and I keep saying this.
When he brings peace to Ukraine and the war in Ukraine,
(11:30):
he'll get criticized. He'll end the war in the Middle East,
He'll get criticized. He'll bring inflation down, He'll get criticized.
The jobs of foot will come out, Oh look good,
He'll get criticized. The man is literally he's surrounded by
a sea of rakes, and it doesn't matter what he does,
He's going to walk into one regardless because he's in
some simes, Jeff, he's playing in a no win situation
(11:51):
because the perception of him has never changed since the
day he won his first term, and it gets amplified
even more now. So this this is another uh. What
he said at Rob Reiner is another thing they're just
going to use against them. He could have said the
nicest thing possible. He could have said, rest in piece,
Robin Michelle Reiner, and the comments would have been you
(12:12):
hated them anyway, you hate him anyway. He could say
the nice thing.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You're a hypocrite, you're a phony, You're just another politician.
You say things you don't really mean, right, I mean,
that's let's be honest, Barry. That's if he said something nice,
they would have hit him. If he attacks him, they
would have hit him.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Barry.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Maybe the best thing would have been just to say nothing.
I want to give you ultimate final word.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Go Barry, it is.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
This is gonna blow over and there'll be something else
they'll bring up, you know what I mean. My only
advice to him in to say this, because he doesn't
say it all the time. I know he speaks from
the cuff. But when he doubled down on this, he
should have been brutally honest and said that man wanted
me dead. That's all you got to do. Just tell
the media is going to spin it anyway, but you
talked about the Russia thing. Just spit it out. Tell
(13:01):
the truth. He helped fund the group to get your
throne in jail. He's been trying to Tory and jail
f is. And he was your friend for twenty five years.
Make it cluded everybody across the United States of America
in the world. But the people you think, who ain't
you were your friend for twenty five years. That makes
them look bad. It makes them look like the hypocrites.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Barry, Barry, is this your first time calling before? Bat Barry?
Don't be a stranger my friend. Call more often and
very merry Christmas, Barry, Thank you so much for that call.
Nancy on the North Shore. Thanks for holding Nancy and welcome.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Thank you, Jef. Can you hear me.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Loud and clear? Go ahead, Nancy?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Okay, So my issue is I don't care what Trump says,
I don't care what Rob Reiner says. People are missing
the biggest, most horrific point in this is that son
was a drug addict and severely mentally ill. Should we
say it, Lizzie Borden took an axe. I mean that
(14:04):
went down in infamy. Nobody cared what Lizzie Borden's parents,
you know, political affiliation is this kid was severely mentally ill,
severely a drug addict, and people should be focusing on
helping those people. Even Rob Winer said, I can't help
my kid even with all the money.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
In the world.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
We need to focus on that. Two cases in points.
Look at the friends guy, you know, drug overdose, you know,
and was fueled by by drugs and you know, uh
what the call doctors given him that stuff. He had
all the money in the world, He could have gone
himself sober. What about the I don't know if it
was the ex mayor or city council down the new
(14:48):
Medstane walking down the street, Alonatik jumps out stabs him
in the neck. He literally almost died. And he came
out and said, we've got to take these people off
the street. We got to get the asylums back. And
Reidner had a kid on that compound. He could have
been walking amongst any of us. The amount of rage
that you have to stab both your parents to death
(15:12):
is horrific, and nobody is focusing on that. I don't
care about politics. The drugs and the mental in the
illness in this country is rampant, and Trump needs to
address that. That's what he needs to post is that
this is a horrible thing that should never ever have
happened to anybody, and I'm going to do something about it.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well, that's an excellent point. I mean, that's an absolutely
excellent point. And in fact, he could have said, now
you know why I'm blowing all these boats out of
the water, right and you know, in the Caribbean, and
I'm trying to stop the flow from Venezuela and from
Colombia and from Mexico, and because I don't want to
see more instances of what just happens. Say to Rob
Reiner and his wife Michelle Nancy, I want.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
To ask you this.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
From everything I've read, and nobody knows what really happens
inside a family, right, we're just all outsiders. But apparently
this goes back seventeen years. Yes he was in rehab
in and out all the time. Yes he suffered from
mental health issues. But apparently the son felt he could
never live up to the father. That the father was
(16:22):
very prolific, he just couldn't live up to it. That
he felt the father neglected him, that the father was
more involved in political activism in his career than caring
about his son. His son hated him, felt ignored neglected
by him. You know, is it just drugs? You said
it for you to kill your own father and your
(16:44):
own mother. I don't think it's just the drugs. I mean,
I could be wrong, but yeah, I know some addicts
can be violent. Jeff Kuhner, Boston's bulldozer six one seven
two six sex six sixty eight is the number.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
This is a text my personal phone from my wonderful
sister in law. She lives in Scottsdale, Arizona, And so
the whole family's now weighing in. My sister's weighed in
Grays has weighed in, and now Laurie has weighed in.
And this is what Laurie wrote to me. Jeff rob
Reiner's politics were vile, regardless his murder and that of
(17:28):
his wife was tragic. Trump's comments will only continue to
put targets on the backs of innocent conservatives like Ella Cook.
For those of you that don't know who Ella Cook is,
she was the first victim that was killed by the
(17:48):
mass shooter at Brown University on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
She was the head.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Of the or the vice president of the Young Republicans,
the only conservative group on Brown University's campus. So Laurie says,
this will continue to put targets on people like innocent
conservatives like Ella Cook. You don't need to be a
statesman to get this given recent violent events, Our humanity
(18:18):
as individuals made in the image and likeness of God
should always come first. True change, Jeff, will only occur
if we behave and speak in contrast to the radical
left and not to start becoming like them. Interesting Sheldon
(18:45):
in situate, Thanks for holding Sheldon and welcome.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I can't say it better than your sister in law
just said it, But first of all, I have to
say this, Jeff, Your bumper music is the best in
the business. We all have to agree on that.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh thank you, that's Mike.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
But I wish you hadn't said that. He's already got
a swollen head. His head's just going to get bigger.
Now you're empowering a monster, Sheldon, Jeff, go ahead, go ahead,
my friend.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
This past weekend, we witnessed the tragic shooting in BONDI beats,
we watched what happened in Providence, and then we watch
parents be killed by their own son. There's mental illness,
there's hate, there's evil in this world. And you said
earlier that we have to judge Trump by his actions.
(19:42):
I agree with that those of us that have voted
for him. I understand what you're saying, but we want
that agenda to continue, not just for three years, but
for thirty years. We want thirty years of putting our
country back to what it needs to be, and comments
like that are not helpful in doing so. I get
it to Rob. Ryaner and him didn't agree on anything.
(20:03):
They do have one thing in common, they're both parents.
All he had to do was come out and say, listen,
I don't agree with him at all, but he's a parent.
We need to be better in this country. But to
come out and say that simply pour gasoline on the fire.
And it's simply tit for tat with people that, yes,
they're always going to go low, and we need to
(20:25):
be way better than that. We need to make America
civil and understanding and respectful and try and win some
of them, not all of them, but some of them
over to our side.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Sheldon, I'm just curious. Do you think that there will
be any damage to Trump from this or do you
think you know, it's happened in the past. He said
some things, It created a big firestorm, massive backlash, but
then people move on whatever, They forget about it, or
it ends up, you know, sound and fury signifying nothing.
(20:59):
Do you think this time he's hurt himself or do
you think this will blow over like it has in
the past.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I think both is going to happen. Yes, he's hurt
himself again with not with those of us that have
voted for him over and over again, but with those
that hate him. They won't listen to anything you have
to say.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Now.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
They'll say, look at what he said about a guy
that was killed by his own kid. The problem is
it's just another brick in the wall. Dividing us is
the issue, in my opinion, when we should be looking
to tear down that wall.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You know that.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I look at Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stealia. They disagreed,
but they found common ground. Reagan and Tip O'Neil disagreed
but found common ground. We no longer try and find
common ground. We just try and crush the other side
as much as we can. And liberal is much more
so than conservatives. But it's a frustrating place we are
(21:57):
in this country when when the leader of the free
war comes out with that comment instead of trying to
unite us in some way.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I hear you, Sheldon, very wise words, Sheldon, thank you
very much for that call.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Okay, let me squeeze one more.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
In Lois in Pennsylvania, Lois, I hate to do this
to you.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I've got one minute. The floor is yours.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Go.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Okay. Trump was telling the truth. I'm glad he was
able to respond to it. Now he can close the
book on it. People have no idea what that man
went through, and they expect him to stand.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Up and just ignore it.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Sorry, that's why I love Donald Trump the way he is.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So you're saying, don't apologize, don't retract. He said what
he had to say and just move on.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yep, Lois, thank you very much for that call. I
really appreciate it. Okay, honestly outstanding show.
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