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Speaker 1 (00:00):
President John Kids right now Chicago. All they have to
use his ass Will he wait to be invited or
is the National Guard headed to Illinois. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number here.
Six one seven two six six eight six eight. This
is Sandy shack In for Jeff Cooner here on the
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Kooner Report. For those of you who are not listening, uh.
Earlier in the week, just to let you know where
mister Coooner is. We had expected him back on the
air at this point in time after he took a
vacation at last week in August to he and his
son went to Croatia, the Motherland, to visit relatives and
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to show Ashton the country of Jeff's roots. And there
was a little bit of a bus accident while he
was there, and Jeff was banged up quite a bit,
and he didn't, I don't think, realize how badly till
he got back to the United States, thought some medical
attention and realized that he had indeed fractured some ribs.
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So it is difficult for him to speak. He is
on pain medications, he is healing, and he's getting better
lickety split and we'll be back with you before you
know it. But that's where he is. Never fear. He's
mending very well, and he knows that everybody misses him
and wishes him well, and he expects to see everybody
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on Monday. But until then, you have me. And we're
talking today about President Trump versus Chicago. President Trump ran
on a platform of make America great again, and that
included making America's streets safe again, and he showed what
he could do in DC. Mayor Bowser at first put
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up this big fight. Then when she realized that the
President was not just paying lip service but could deliver
on his proms to clean up the streets of DC
and make it safe again, she pulled a one to
eighty and told the National Guard this week that they
could stay indefinitely because she was so appreciative of the
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job they had done. And now the National Guard troops
in DC and specifically the District of Columbia National Guard
troops have had their orders extended through December and the
main purpose, obviously of the extension is to ensure that
Guard members who are helping on the streets get the
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benefits and so forth that they deserve. But it's a
strong indication that they don't intend to wind down the
guard anytime soon in DC. And that's what the mayor's blessing.
That's a turnaround, don't you think. The President says that
DC is now a safe zone and he is willing
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to help other cities. Cut sixty one A please, Mike.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Washington, d C. Is a totally safe city. You're not
reporting any crime because there is none. They said crime
is down eighty seven percent, and I said, no, it's not,
it's down one hundred percent. We have a great thing going.
I could do that with Chicago. We could do that
with New York. We could do it with Los Angeles.
So we're making a determination, now, do we go to
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Chicago or do we go to a place like New Orleans,
where we have a great governor, Jeff Landry, who wants
us to come in and straighten out a very nice
section of this country that's become quite you know, quite tough,
quite bad.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So everything's doing well in DC. Other people want him
to come, but Chicago not so fast. They're not really
asking for President Trump's help, and he says that's all
they have to do to clean up the streets. Cut
sixty one, please, Mike.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So we're going to be going to maybe Louisiana, and
you have New Orleans which has a crime problem.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Will straighten that out about two weeks.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It will take us two weeks easier than DC, but
we could straighten out Chicago.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
All they have to do is ask us.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
All they have to do is ask. Now, the President
says this is not a political thing, but it is
an obligation, and he made the promise to the American
people that this was one of the things he's going
to work on. Do you believe him? Do you believe
is this a political attack on blue cities or does
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he really view this as an obligation to the American
people to make our streets safe again, no matter where
they are. The proof is in the pudding, I think,
isn't it. With crime stats down big time according to
the White House, as of last Friday, before the holiday weekend,
there had been close to fourteen hundred total arrests since
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the federal crackdown started, and city officials and critics of
the program in DC before are saying, yeah, crime is declining,
and with numbers like that, why isn't everybody on board?
Why isn't Chicago, you know, basically chomping at the bit
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to have President Trump's help to make their city safe again,
to make their citizens, to make their residents safe again.
I think Democrats in particular don't understand why people care
about crime, and I think that's because they've become a
party of elitists. A majority of them don't deal with crime,
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not unless they lived in downtown d C. And those
people understand what President Trump has done and are behind
him at this point. But why would Democrats be so
upset about crime? Why would they deny it? Congressman Jamie
Raskin of Maryland was on TV the other day and
he basically shrugged his shoulders and said, what is the
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big deal about crime? Cut number eight? Please?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Mike.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
You to my colleague Pamel Brown yesterday that you thought
this military invasion, as you called it, is backfiring on Trump? Howso,
because he certainly does not think it is backfiring. He
clearly thinks it's working for him.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Well, it cuts against the deepest principles of the country.
I mean, we were founded in opposition to a standing army,
with a fear of a standing army, and the military
is not supposed to be used for ordinary law enforcement purposes.
In DC, he was talking about cleaning up the graffiti
and you know, dealing with the blight of homelessness, which
are obviously local, not federal issues.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And he's trying.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
To militarize our society intimidate its political opponents. The whole
idea of picking cities based on their partisan leadership is absurd.
I mean, there are lots of Republican cities in town
struggling with crime. Everybody is across the country always. Crime
has always been part of our history.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
So crime is part of our history. Is he saying,
you know, we can't avoid crime? Is so why this
big kerfuffle about crime? I find that a really bizarre attitude.
Just like you know, there was this n MSNBC analyst.
She was very snarky. Her name is Ashley Parker, and
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she's an analyst and she's also a staff writer for
the Atlantic, and she tried to sell the same narrative
as Jamie Raskin that you know, fighting crime is unnecessary.
And she put up this really bizarre tweet or posting
on x she said, the sudden appearance of the National
Guard in DC brings with it an absurdist. Sheen their tax,
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their tasks, their backdrops farcicle, their very present sitcom esque.
And she's and she's saying that, you know, their backdrop
is Krispy Kreme. She's referencing Veep. She's being really snotty.
Here's the funny thing about this. So she's she's saying,
we don't need help in DC. A few months ago,
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she put up, you know, before President Trump wanted to
fight crime, she put up this very different posting that
you know, and once you put a posting up, even
if you take it down, it exists somewhere and you
can retrieve it. Well, somebody found an old tweet which
in which she wrote this is it. After another bike
was stolen last night, my husband and I realized our
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life is DC homeowners by the numbers included one stolen car,
two stolen scooters, three stone bikes, and a partridge in
a pear tree, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So before President Trump wanted to fight crime, she recognized crime.
Since he wanted to fight crime and has been successful
at it, it's not a problem for anybody. I mean,
she got roasted on x for this hypocrisy. Some of
the examples can you believe Ashley Parker is a college graduate?
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How incredibly clueless can one be? Here's another one. The
face is stupid. The problem is you won't learn a
damn thing by this, called out for being a hypocritical
knit with tomorrow, you'll be no better, Washington Post. One
propaganda fest after another. Here's just you know, any more
bikes or cars stolen? You dolt. I mean they really
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went after her, and I think rightly so for the
whole thing, you know, for being such a being such
a jackass. But that is their attitude. And it's one
thing to have Ashley Parker refusing to recognize crime because
and there's a direct link there. You can see it
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isn't it. Trump was successful at combating it. But it's
another thing to have the mayor of Chicago give that
kind of response because it's so political what they accused
President Trump of and this is normal behavior for Democrats.
What they accused President Trump of is what they themselves
are guilty of. You have Mayor Mayor Brandon Johnson response
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to the crime rate in Chicago is to ignore the question.
It doesn't exist. This was him on with of all people,
Joe Scarborough, even when asked by Joe Scarborough, not a
really big supporter of President Trump. Scarborough is asking Mayor
Mayor Johnson, well, what are you going to do about crime,
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because you know it's pretty bad. Why don't you why
don't you invite President Trump? Him? And Mayor Johnson's response
is to not answer the question. I don't have time
to play either cut before the break will play it
on the other side. But it's this is their attitude.
We're responsible for it, so therefore we have to ignore it.
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This is Sandy Shack sitting in for Jeff Kooner. The
text number is seven zero four seven zero. If you
want to join in on that. Six one seven says
you told us how Jeff is doing. I hope he
gets better soon. But how is his son? Is he okay? Yeah,
Ashton's fine. You know, it wasn't so much as a
bus accident that Jeff was in as an accident on
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a bus, the bus stopped short, Jeff apparently fell and
uh cracked his ribs. Ashton is fine. Ashton is just
probably is just exhausted, according to his mother, because you
know this happened at the end of their trip and
then he had to help his Dad, who was a
little bit the worse for where they're coming home. But
Ashton is perfectly fine, and uh and Jeff is getting
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better quickly. So we're talking about how President Trump says
all a city has to do is ask and he
will help with crime, like he did with DC. But
democratic cities blue cities are not exactly racing to accept
that invitation. In fact, the majority of them won't even
admit that there is a crime problem, let alone that
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they caused it by, for instance, defunding police, which is
to name, you know, one disastrous progressive policy. And the
perfect example of this is Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago,
who won't even admit to fellow Democrat water carrier Joe
Scarborough that that could be an answer that fighting crime
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is an issue and that they may need more police.
Cut number eleven.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
Please, Mike, do you believe that the streets in Chicago
would be safer if there were more uniformed police officers
on the streets of Chicago.
Speaker 9 (12:51):
I believe the city of Chicago and cities across America
would be safer if we actually had, you know, affordable housing.
Speaker 10 (13:01):
That's not the question I asked my question, but and.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I just need it answer or no. Do you believe
the streets.
Speaker 10 (13:07):
Of Chicago would be safer if you got all of
those other extraordinary programs put back into place, which do
have a history being successful. If that's if that's complimented
by having five thousand more cops on the streets of Chicago.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
I don't believe that we should narrow it down to
just police officers. On what I'm saying, that is an
antiquated approach.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I'm saying, I've invested in hearing what I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (13:35):
I'm agreeing with you that all of these other social
programs are extraordinarily important.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I just need it yes or a no.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
But you're not going to get one because he doesn't
want to answer the question. Because he's responsible for fewer
police being on the streets of Chicago. He's responsible for
putting money taxpayer money into illegal immigration issues, into supporting
illegal aliens in Chicago as opposed to hiring more police.
That's right at his doorstep. So no, he's not going
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to admit it. He also specifically told the President during
a press conference to not cut down on crime. I
can't make this up. Cut twenty three please, we have.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Not called for this.
Speaker 9 (14:23):
Our people have not asked for this, but nevertheless, we
find ourselves having to respond to this, and we find
ourselves in a position where we must take immediate, drastic
action to protect our people from federal overreach. Protecting Chicago
will ensure that every Chicagoan knows their rights, that every
single family is prepared, and every part of city government
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is directed to protect the people of Chicago from federal action.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Don't come. We don't want you here. We don't have
no stink in crime. We don't need you to come.
And then he went on The week no what is
it called the Weeknight on MSNBC and called President Trump
reprehensible and trampling the constitution for wanting to come in
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and help them with crime the way he helped DC
cut fifty three.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
Please, Mike, this president is trampling on our constitution. He's
behaving in a way that is undermining our democracy, and
he's trying to get us to submit our humanity to
his will. That's not what we're going to do in
the City of Chicago.
Speaker 11 (15:31):
We're going to.
Speaker 9 (15:32):
Stand up for working people, make the necessary investments, hold
the people accountable who are causing harm. But we need
this president to actually show up with real investments. If
he were serious, why did he cut thirty percent of
the budget of ATFE. Four hundred and sixty five Americans
who have been serving in these capacities got cut from
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his budget for what to militarize ice, his own private
security entity that causes harm and terror against communities. This
president is reprehensible his behavior at this moment. And that's
why we're standing firm in the city of Chicago to
protect people, to stand up for people, and then to
invest in people.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
They're standing up for the people of Chicago by letting
them be overrun with crime. That Yet he says, it's
President Trump that's trampling on the constitution. I I think
it's crazy. Doesn't it sound crazy to you? And it's
bad enough that that's the mayor of Chicago. But the
governor of Illinois is not to be outdone by Mayor Johnson.
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He called sending in the guard to aid law enforcement
an invasion of US troops cut twenty four.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Please have you been briefed by anyone in the administration
about these plans?
Speaker 12 (16:52):
No one in the administration, the President or anybody under him,
has called anyone in my administration and me have not
called the City of Chicago or anyone else. So it's
clear that in secret they're planning this. Well, it's an
invasion with US troops if they in fact do that.
The other thing is, you know, they ought to be
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coordinating with local law enforcement. They ought to let us
know when they're coming, where they're coming, if it's ice,
or if it's atf or whoever it is. But they
don't want to do that either. And I must say
it's disruptive, it's dangerous. It tends to inflame passions on
the ground when they don't let us know what their
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plans are, and when we can't coordinate with them.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well, you don't want to coordinate with them. You told
them to stay out, So how can you say they
won't coordinate with us when they stay out? One and
two in secret? I'm pretty sure I just saw President
Trump standing in the Oval office saying, you know, ask
us in. We're happy to come. We'll help you out.
You know, here we are now, we've got people ready
to go here, we are want us in. Does that
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sound like it's in secret to you? I he just
defies explanation, and he even threatened to prosecute National Guard
who came in to help with law enforcement. And he's
saying that he wants to coordinate with the White House
Cut number thirteen.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Please, Mike, if you hurt my people, nothing will stop me,
not time or political circumstance, from making sure that you
face justice under our constitutional rule of law.
Speaker 12 (18:36):
As doctor King once said, the arc of the moral
universe is long, but it bends toward justice. Humbly, I
would add, it doesn't bend on its own. History tells
us we often have to apply force needed to make
sure that the arc gets where it needs to go.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
This is one of those.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Times the arc gives you know who else you has
to talk about an arc. That was Joe Biden. Remember
Joe Biden talking about the arc of history. It's ragtime.
It means nothing. The one thing that comes out of
that cut is the fact that he's threatening prosecution of
National Guard members who assistant law enforcement. This is Sandy
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Shack sitting in for Jeff Kooner here on the Kooner Report.
The Mayor of Chicago and his compatriot, the Governor of Illinois,
are I have no other word for it but hysterical.
You know how dare President Trump support Chicago or how
dare he suggests that Chicago is riddled with crime? How
dare he want to send help to fight the crime
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that doesn't exist in our streets? You know, how dare
you have secret plans by the way that we're announced
in the Oval Office to come help. We need to coordinate,
but we'll arrest you if you come, if you tell
us that you're coming. I mean, my head is spinning
from these people. And they got the Teachers' union over
a Labor Day weekend to help out protesting. You know,
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they had that anti Trump, workers over billionaires marches that
were led by teachers Union, and they had one in
Chicago over Labor Day, and you know, they were the
organizers were saying thousands of people are going to be
in attendance. If you look at pictures of it, it
doesn't really look like that. It looks to me like
they were you know, maybe you know, dozens to hundreds maybe.
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But the protesters said they were concerned by Trump's threat
to send out the National Guard and additional ICE agents.
And you know that we can't have a major, major crackdown,
shutdown Ice, no military occupation, resist fascism or what the
sign said. And Mayor Brandon is claiming that if Trump
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sent them, neighbors would rise up against tyranny. You know
who these people remind me of. Do you remember the
protesters at NYU, the Columbia students who went down not
knowing what they were protesting. That's what these people remind me.
They have no idea what it is that they're protesting about,
and they don't seem to really worry Trump. You know,
he basically declared in the Oval Office, we're going in
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cut fifty please, Mike, do you.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Mind I on Chicago? Though, well, we're going in.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I didn't say when we're going in when you lose. Look,
I have an obligation. This isn't a political thing. I
have an obligation when we lose. When twenty people are
killed over the last two and a half weeks, and
seventy five are shot with bullets. So let me tell
you a little story about a place called DC District
of Columbia. Right here where we are, it's now a
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safe zone. We have no crime. It's in such great shape.
You can go and actually walk with your children, your wife,
your husband. You can walk right down the middle of
the street. You're not going to be shot, Peter. You're safe.
Everyone likes you.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Anyway, they probably wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
But it's so dangerous, and there are people in this
audience that you've suffered greatly. There are people in this
audience that have been mugged and hurt badly, and they
don't want to talk about it. Maybe you were very
brave in talking about it. You made quite an impression
and a lot of people I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
He's talking to one of the reporters that talked about
how they had been mugged recently. And so President Trump
is basically warning Chicago, get your act together. I'm here,
we can come help. He posted. The President posted over
the weekend on true social he said, you know, seven
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people were killed, twenty four people were shot in Chicago
last weekend, and JB. Pritzker the week I'm pathetic, governor
of Illinois, just said he doesn't need help in preventing crime.
He is crazy. He better straightened out fast or were common.
And that follows weeks of escalating tension between the White
House and Chicago over crime and the immigration enforcement. This
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is and there between a and a hard place. They
if they accept help, it means they have to admit
that there's a problem, and they won't do that. Governor
Pritzker keeps pushing back against President Trump, accusing them of
authoritarian overreach, and it got to the point where on Saturday,
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last Saturday, Mayor Johnson signed an executive order directing city agencies,
are you ready for this? To resist federal immigration raids,
barring Chicago police from cooperating with federal authorities on civil
immigration enforcement, and they also prohibited officers from assisting in patrols, checkpoints,
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traffic stops, anything tied to federal operations. Johnson says the
measure was needed to protect residence constitutional rights amidst the
possibility of imminent militarized immigration or National Guard deployment, and
he claimed that that President Trump was yet again behaving
outside the bounds of the constitution. Meanwhile, just you know,
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I don't know if this was a trolling thing or
whether they you know, really meant to to poke them
a little bit more, whether they really need it. Trump
officials have advanced their plans to use Chicago's Great Lakes
Naval Station to support any upcoming immigration enforcement sweeps, which,
of course sat Pritzker and Johnson into a complete and
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utter tizzy, including by the way, you know who weighed
in on this, secretary, former Secretary of Transportation Pete Budajiic.
I mean, seriously, the guy who took you know, parentially
went missing during a transportation crisis during COVID came out
and on X said our military was not set up
to cater the whims of a would be American dictator. Well,
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immigrant rights activists, you know, are on the streets protesting,
and they charging Trump with waging war on American cities.
Yet you know, President Trump says Chicago is played by violence,
and local people, people on the ground there and business
people have welcomed the prospect of additional law enforcement, arguing,
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you know, the public safety transcends partisan partisan divides, and
isn't that the way it's supposed to be. Isn't politics
supposed to go by the wayside when people's lives are
at risk, Not according to you know, not according to Pritzker,
and not according to to Mayor Brandon Johnson. They don't
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want President Trump to come in.
Speaker 11 (25:47):
And.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
That to me is insane. Do you think that President
Trump should wait for an invitation to go to Chicago.
You know, is given the fact that the local the
local politicians appear to be crazy, should President Trump wait
for or actually I should put it, will President Trump
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because he recognizes that they're crazy? Will President Trump wait
for an invitation from crazy man Illinois Governor Pritsker before
he sends the National Guard to assist in law enforcement
in Chicago? And you take the pole question on X
at the Kooner Report or on WRKO slash Cooner and
it's sponsored by Mario's Mario's Quality Roofing, signing and windows.
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So the pole question is will President Trump wait for
an invitation for Illinois Governor Pritzker before he sends the
national Guard to assist in law enforcement? And has another
question should he should he wait or should he just
send people? Let's go to the phone line. Six one
seven two sixty eight sixty eight is the number here.
Darryl in Georgia. Daryl, welcome to WRKO. How are you, Daryl?
Speaker 11 (26:58):
Good morning, Sandy say, I get it two quick points,
but before that, I just wish Jeff good health and
let me be back soon.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I'm sure he appreciates that. He's very touch fight by
all the well wishes.
Speaker 11 (27:10):
Now these two points are going to tie in together,
and I'm hoping, like hell, I'm wrong. I want somebody
to prove me wrong. But here's the way I see it.
The Democrats are the common denominator and all of these
crime ridden cities, their policies and something else is the
reason why I think it continues. Like I said originally
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when I told you before, I'm from Chicago. The thing
is these all of these cities have the same common denominator.
They're saturated with crime, minority driven that's the majority of
the population, it seems like. And the Democrats control it
and they have no intention on solving the problems. But
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I don't even blame the people for that. It goes
to my second point. If you notice something that's part
of the common denominator is going all over rather it
be Gavin Newsom and then California, you be Pritzker, Holkom,
you know, you name it. Even your Michelle Woo doesn't
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want to cooperate with ice or anything like that up there.
Here's what's going on. The problem is it's the voters.
Because think about this. You got that diabolical idiot on
the path right now to become the mayor of New
York City and everybody can see what he is. Yeah,
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that's why I said, these are the voters faults. People
keep voting for this. They complain about it, but they
vote for it. So I understand what President Trump wants
to do. I mean I admire him for it. Clean
it up, because once it's cleaned up and people can
see a better light, then maybe they'll start voting more conservative.
But right now, the minority communities have been voting for
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so long. For sixty five years, I tell them, friends
down here, for sixty five years, ninety five percent of
the vote from the black vote has been going to
the Democrat. And for sixty five years we complained about
the same things. But yet sixty five years later, why
are we still complaining about something? Because the Democrats have
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absolutely no intention on solving the problem. They want a
campaign on it. This is a social thing. They don't
want President Trump coming in there cleaning this stuff up
because if he cleans it up, it's going to prove
once and for all.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I'm sorry, hang on there, Darryl. We're up against a heartbreak.
We don't have much of a choice. But we'll be
right back and we'll come back to you on the
other side. This is the Kooner Report. I am Sandy
Shack sitting in for Jeff Cooner. We're talking about the
bizarre response of the Illinois governor and Chicago mayor to
refusing help to fight crime. And just before the break,
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we were speaking with Darryl from Georgia, who says, if
I'm miss if I'm misrepresenting what you're saying, tell me Darryl,
who says, voters in Chicago are getting what they deserve
because you know, they voted to put these guys in
office and this has been an age old problem.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
What do you say, Darryl, Well, they're not misrepresented. It's
not just Chicago. Like I was telling me, I said,
if you notice the pattern all over these major cities
that has a large minority population and are all run
by Democrats. And when Jamie Raskin was trying to do
a little deflection by talking about Republican round place, No,
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I've lived in different parts of the country and I
can tell you right now as an over the road trucker,
I know when I'm going into an area that's run
by Democrats. It's obvious because of the way things are run,
and it just seemed like it's a pattern because I think,
in my opinion, the Democratic Party is a communist party.
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But I'm like, they run things, certain people at the
top make a lot of money. They never solved the problem.
They do a lot of talking, they put a lot
of programs, and think about this all over the country.
How many times when there's a problem, the Democratic solution
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is just keep throwing money into it and eventually to
get better. Well, if you don't have a program that's
actually sound, is never going to get better. That's why
I say, I don't think the Democrats ever have any
intentional solving in these programs, and the people, when they
hear all this fluff, vote for it. I use Mandamie
as an example. There's no way in the world that
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this guy should be even running for office. But yet
and Brandon Johnson, when Lori Lightfoot was in there, she
was a disaster. And then while they were campaigning, if
anybody ever paid attention to what this guy was saying,
he wouldn't be in there. Brandon Johnson would have never
got in there. But like I said, you have your
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local media's sometime you're national, but your media they're a
bunch of communists too. I'm not saying you and Jeff
are communists because you're part of the media.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
No, no, I no, I completely understand. I'm not offended, and
to your point that I think what a lot of
people do. And this is why you have people like
Mom Donnie and Johnson too for that matter, promising the moon.
It sounds good when you are working paycheck to paycheck
for Mom Donnie to come out and say by twenty
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thirty or by twenty twenty six or whatever the date
was he gave, we're going to raise the minimum wage
in New York City to thirty dollars an hour. And
that sounds pretty good when you're making, you know, ten
dollars an hour. But the problem is you don't think
things through, and you know, the people just take it.
Mom Dommy knows what the effect of that's going to be,
but he doesn't care because he's just going to try
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to buy votes with it. What it's going to happen
is what happened in California, and they raised the minimum
wage to twenty five dollars an hour, and that is
businesses can no longer to afford to hire you. So
the people who can work will make thirty dollars an hour,
but there will be maybe sixty percent less jobs. So
you're going to be out of work. And maybe your
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second cousin, maybe you'll know one out of four people
who can work and they'll get the thirty dollars, but
you won't. And now that but companies will leave because
they can't afford to stay in business in New York anymore.
So that's going to even decrease jobs further. That's actually
the result of what happens. But all the voter heres
is thirty dollars an hour and think that that's good.
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Or in Mom Dommie's case, you know, government sponsored grocery stores.
If you look at where government sponsored grocery stores have been,
they're a disaster. But you don't do that research and
or the most voters don't do that research and they
don't hear it. So I completely understand what you're saying.
They've had the will pulled over their eyes and what
the socialist Democrats will do it social slash Democrats want
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is the issue, not the solution, because the solution gets
rid of the issue, gets rid of their their speechifying,
and that they don't want that. I think you're completely right.
Thank you so much for your perspective and for your call, Daryl.
I appreciate it very much. I think that it's starting
to change though. I think you're right about that that
people will will will vote the easy way, or they'll
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believe what they're told. But that started to change, uh
in the last election, when they began to realize that
they're as you said, change is possible through maybe another party,
and I think we saw that with support for Donald
Trump growing, and that's why he got elected. I think
a lot of people have believed what they were told.
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That's you know, that's why you have the likes of
Pritzker and Johnson. They they will tell they'll tell you
anything to get your vote. They'll tell anything to get
the story out, to get the spotlight on them because
in their arrogance, they think they can say anything and
people will believe them. And there is a basis for that,
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because like it's giving you the example of mom Donnie
in New York, people will believe that that's a good thing,
that this will make their life better, when in actuality,
it's going to make it more difficult. But I think
what started to happen is the lies have gotten too big,
and now the Democrats like Pritzker and Johnson and hopefully
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Mom Donnie are basically starting to shoot themselves every time
they tell a lie. Because if you keep telling people,
for instance, that there's no crime and they just got
mugged for the fourth time, or their neighbor down the
street was shot, or you know, the store that they
were for was broken in for the eighth time, the
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credibility starts to take ahead, and they begin to realize
that these politicians are speaking of rag time, and their
credibility begins to be destroyed, and people begin to recognize
the nonsense for what it is. And I want to
give you an example of the rag time that these
guys are talking about. Pritzker came out and was responding to,
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you know, President Trump saying, you know, we'll send in
the guard to help you with the crime. And Governor
Pritzker's response to that was that that is an insult
to every citizen to suggests that any governor should have
to beg when the President said asked for a help
over come, and he's just saying the president of any
political party should not make a governor beg for resources
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owed to their people. That's what he said. Cut fifty two, please, Mike, I.
Speaker 12 (36:52):
Refuse to play a reality game show with Donald Trump again.
What I want are the federal dollars that have been
promised to Illinois and Chicago for violence prevention programs that
have proven to work. That is money that Illinois taxpayers
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send to the federal government. And it's an insult to
any and every citizen to suggest that any governor should
have to beg the president of any political party for
resources owed their people.
Speaker 13 (37:29):
I'd like to.
Speaker 12 (37:30):
Ask a question of my own, and it's one the
press should be asking as well. When did we become
a country where it's okay for the US president to
insist on national television that a state should call him
to beg for anything, especially something we don't want.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Well, isn't that the point resources owe the people? You
said no. There were resources he was willing to hand
to you in the form of the National Guard, and
you said no. So now he's criticizing President Trump for saying,
you know, ask us and we'll come in. All they
have to do is ask. First of all, asking isn't begging,
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just saying yeah, we're inviting you in. That's not the
same thing as begging. But you said no, we don't
want you in here. And now he's criticizing him for
waiting for an invitation. I I my head is just
you know this, and he doesn't expect you to look
at the internal inconsistencies with what he's saying. He thinks
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that you're just going to absorb the ire of him
say I'm protecting you against Donald Trump, who's a fascist.
That's supposed to be your takeaway from this, and he's
just talking ragtime. You know it's do you think I
am misreading this situation? Do you understand what Governor Pritzker
is saying? Because I'm getting a headache? CJ from Boston.
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Welcome to WRKO. How are you, sir?
Speaker 14 (39:00):
Don't fine, Sandy, Thank you very much for taking a call.
I'll tell you what the insult Pritzby should be talking about.
The insult to which over a way of the day weekend,
fifty four people were shot and seven people were killed
in Chicago. That is the insult. The fact is is
they don't want to admit the people. These leaders and
democratic cities and states do not want to admit that
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they're not doing their job when it comes to stopping
violence in their cities and in their states.
Speaker 13 (39:27):
That's the fact.
Speaker 14 (39:28):
And these people come out to say that the United
States military is not qualified to patrol the streets of
the United States. That's an insane state in the make.
They qualified enough to go to go to foreign countries
to protect foreign countries, but they're not qualified enough to
protect the cities and states of their own.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
And by the way, and by the way, CJ. Just
so that people understand what they're talking about here is
the National Guard isn't going in and arresting people. The
National Guard is providing back up for the existing law enforcement.
It's the police that are arresting people. It's the National
Guard who stand behind them and enable you to use
one policeman in an area where you used to have
to use five, so they can spread out the actual
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policemen to more areas. That's what the National Guard is doing.
Just just wanted to point.
Speaker 14 (40:17):
Out, Sandy, I think the National Guards should be welcomed
in any community where there is violence to help knock
down violence in their communities. I welcome people in the
uniform to know that my community is safe and these
Democrats are making the argument, well do you know what
it costs to have the National God? Comment, Well, do
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you know what it costs was a taxpayer for the
millions of illegals that Joe Biden left over the border
that was giving free food, free housing, and free healthcare
and a free education. You weren't worried about that money
that the tax payers how to shut out and dole
out and pay. You weren't worried about that. But you're
worried about National God troops coming in to back up
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the local police departments. And that's another point to be
made here. The statements that are being made here by
these these mayors and these governors are not complying with
any federal order or helping the federal government.
Speaker 7 (41:20):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (41:21):
I would like to know what.
Speaker 14 (41:23):
The patrolman's associations and police associations to what this country
feel about this, because I talked to a lot of
police officers and they welcome helping Ice and and the
National God. It's these local leaders that are saying, well,
we don't want, we don't want the help of the
National God because they are not doing their job. It's
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clear what they're doing, and they're not doing their job.
So this is a has been a party of of
murderers and rapists. And there are only two people in
this in this country that reside in the United States
of America and they're not politically affiliated. There were Americans
who love this country and Americans who hate this country,
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and Americans who want to see this country fall. They
would love to see this country fall one way of
the other because they're not happy with themselves. They're not
happy in the world that they live in. They want
everything given to them like Mandandi wants to give them
in New York City, he's a communist. And if you notice,
you notice Bernie Sanders and the Elizabeth Warrens don't use
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the term millionaires anymore. It's billionaires now, and the mainstream
media is following him on that term billionaires. The reason
is is these politicians are all millionaires already. S would
be talking about themselves.
Speaker 8 (42:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Elon Omar apparently and the AOC are both hit around
the thirty million dollar mark now for net worth, which
is you know, wow, I didn't know you could make
that kind of money as a progressive, but I guess
you can.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
No.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I completely agree with what you're saying CJ. It is shocking.
And I can tell you what the police union in
DC said. They welcomed the National Guard and they are
thrilled that they did, and there over the moon about it.
And I'm pretty sure that most of the other police
unions across the country would follow suit, following the footsteps
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of DC given the chance to. So thank you for
the call, CJ. I appreciate it very much. You know,
President Trump seems to be waiting for an invitation before
sending the garden. Is that how you read what he said.
I'm gonna play that cut again. You know he's saying
all they have to do is ask and will come
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cut sixty one please, Mike.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
So we're going to be going to maybe Louisiana, and
you have New Orleans which has a crime problem.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Will straighten that out about two weeks.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
It'll take us two weeks easier than DC, but we
could straighten out Chicago.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
All they have to do is ask us.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
All they have to do is ask us is he
asking for an invitation? And will he wait for one?
And I've made that the poll question, by the way,
which you can take at X at the Kuner Report
or on WRKO slash coooner sponsored by Mario's Quality Roofing,
Siding and Windows. Will President Trump wait for an invitation
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for Illinois from Illinois Governor of Pritzker before he sends
National Guard to assist in law enforcement in Chicago? Yes
or no to that. I think he is waiting for
an invitation. I think that's a very technical reason why
he's waiting for an invitation, and that is because he
could go into d C because that's a federal city.
He didn't need anybody's permission to do that, but it's
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the only federal city in the country generally speaking. I
think there are exceptions to this. There are emergency exceptions
to this, but if you if you want to go
into a state, you need to be invited by the governor.
So I think he's waiting for Pritzker to ask him
to come in and help. But I don't think there's
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going to be an invitation extent did any time soon?
Speaker 11 (45:01):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
And do you think he should go anyway? Do you
think he should take them on anyway? Because even though
it's going to cause a problem and there's going to
be I'm an inevitable injunction trying to stop him from
doing it. Does he do it to show people what
the National Guard can do, like what they did in DC.
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So even though the Guard can only help for a
few days because there's an injunction stopping him, do you
think he should do it anyway? It's going to cause
a big kerfuffle, but it will help the people of
Chicago and they will see firsthand that this is not
a fascist military coming to drag them from their homes,
but it's actually somebody coming to help drag the muggers
from the darkened allyways of Chicago. What do you think
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should he go anywhere? You know they can't have The
reason why Pritzker is never going to invite him is
they can't have there be a crime problem. They can't
admit that there's a crime problem, because if they admit
that there's a crime problem, that their city is crime ridden,
then it became crime written on their watch. And then
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the fact that the president, their arch enemy, was the
solution to that problem is something they just cannot wrap
their heads around, and that is why they are making
no effort to fight crime, and they would rather see
their residents basically abused and assaulted and the victims of
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crime then do something about it. And if you don't
believe me in that assessment, then maybe you would believe
Jody Weiss. He's the former police chief of Chicago, and
he says that when it comes to Trump cracking down
on crime in the city, what Democrats really fear is
that that would work. Cut sixty six.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
Please, Mike, let's look at the numbers, because to me,
if you don't want the FED help, then you must
be happy with the numbers you have in crime. We
know the only acceptable number for murder would be zero,
but you just quoted some numbers. Think about that. In
a labor day weekend, fifty four people shot, seven killed.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
And let's look at the year to date numbers.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Do you realize that every nineteen hours and fifty eight
minutes someone is murdered in Chicago, every four hours and
nineteen minutes someone is shot. And the sad part you
ask yourself who's shooting who? Who's killing each other? Seventy
eight percent of the victims are black, eighty one percent
of the offenders are black.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
So you've got black and black crime, and.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Yet the governor and the mayor say they don't want
any help. So to me, when you refuse help. You're
saying you're happy with the numbers, and that is absolutely
unacceptable in Chicago right now?
Speaker 12 (47:40):
Is he right?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Is by refusing help, are both Pritzker and Johnson saying
they don't care. They're happy with the numbers. It's okay,
We're good. We're good with that many people being shot.
We don't have a problem with it, you know. And
he also weis also called out Pritzker for misrepresenting crime
by doing things like, you know, being filmed walking in
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a nice area and saying there's no crime here. Cut
sixty six A.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
If you think about it, the number one responsibility of
government is to protect the people.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
And I see JB.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
Prisker walking the late six o'clock in the morning saying
there's no crime here, it's beautiful. Well, it's six o'clock
in the morning along the lake. I live pretty close
to that area.
Speaker 11 (48:21):
There is no crime.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
Let him walk in the Austin neighborhood at the Inglewood
neighborhoods at eleven o'clock because that's where many of his
constituents live and they're not going to feel safe.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Wow. Do you agree with former Chief Wise? And who
do you think has a better handle on the reality
of what's in Chicago. Is it former Chicago Police Chief
Jody Weiss or is it Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker. Let's
go to John Ngroveland. John, Welcome to WRKO. How are you, sir?
Speaker 13 (48:54):
Good good Sandy, Good morning. First, I just like the
wish Jeff of speedy recovery and focus. See here Beck
on the air soon.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Yes, we're all hoping for.
Speaker 13 (49:03):
That, Sandy. I'd like to bring attention to what the
clip you displayed former police chief speaking about the statistics
in Chicago, the violence statistic. He's reading from a thing
that's called the Anybody can do a simple Internet search,
and I urge your listeners and also you to do this.
It's called the Chicago shot Clock. It's been around for
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about ten or fifteen years. It's an accurate running CALLI
of the shootings and murders that occur in Chicago. It
is horrific. It is absolutely horrific. It's something that you'd
see in a war zone. And Trump doesn't need to
be invited to have the National God or military come in,
because if he invokes the Insurrection Act, he can suspend
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POLSI comatadis that gives him the ability and legal authority
as the president commander in chief to use US military
on US soil. And it is an insurrection in Chicago.
People are being killed by the thousands every I mean,
if you tally up the last ten years, it's astonishing
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at the number of peoples that have been shot and killed.
And he's right the statistics. It's black on black crime.
So basically, the politicians in Chicago are condoning the slaughter
of black people. And it boggles my mind your previous
calls that yet to keep voting them in the Democrat lie.
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You go to any major city Democrat controlled in America today,
it's a cesspool of violence and crime. And what else
is it. It's a beacon of sanctuary for the illegals
to come in. It's just it's incredible. It's sad, is
what it is, because they're playing politics with people's lives.
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And like Jeff always says, I know Trump's people listen
to this show and they're probably mulling this around, you know,
invoking the Insurrection Act, I'm sure, And and that's what
needs to be done. That way he can circumvent all
the legal attacks that would come if he tried to
bring the National gud in just you know, Insurrection Act,
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national security. You know, US citizens are being slatted, not
by the hundreds, by the thousands, if you if you
go back years and it's it's time to put a
stop to this, it's time to clean America up. And basically,
like you said, it's they don't want to because Trump
will come in as the savior to stop this violent crime, shooting, drugs,
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illegal criminal gangs. Just in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah, just I'm sorry. We had to rup against the break. John.
If you want to hang on, we can come back
to you on the other side of the break, because
it's a it's a hard break.