Burying Evidence?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston WRKO.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Joining me now as she always does at this time,
Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place, Grace Vuoto full disclosure.
I married up. This is my wonderful wife, my better half, Grace.
I want to come at this from a slightly different angle,
if you don't mind. Big news. Yesterday, the FBI has

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announced and the DOJ under Pambondi, that they are opening
now an official criminal investigation into former CIA director John
Brennan and into former FBI Director James Comey. And this
criminal investigation stems from the fact that both of them

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committed perjury while they're testified in Congress under oath. They
led under all claiming that they knew nothing about the
Steel Dosier, that they had no idea what was really
happening with the Steele Dosier. When it turns out now
through a very sensitive report released by the CIA, John

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Brennan fingerprints all over the Steele Dosier. James call me
his fingerprints all over the Steele Dosier. They knew it
was a lie. They knew Russia Trump Russia collusion never happened,
and yet they still pushed the Dosier, and they pushed
the intelligence community to claim that Trump and Russia were

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colluding when they knew that was false. And then they
illegally spied on first on his campaign and then his presidency.
And so now they're both being investigated for lying under oath,
which they both did, and for so called conspiracy to
intervene in the election and to illegally spy on the president.

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It's a bombshell development. Both men could end up in prison.
My question to you, do you think that Cash Ptel
Bongino and Pam Bondi are serious that they're going to
pursue this to the end and we'll actually see Brennan
and Comy and hancuffs or are they just trying to

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deflect and distract from their decision regarding Jeffrey Epstein to
drop the case and bury all the evidence. What say you?

Speaker 3 (02:33):
This is a big distraction and it revolts me because
we are being played. I know when I'm being played,
and that is part of the cover up. They now
want to throw us a little bone so we don't
look at the big crimes that are being covered up.

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And I'm so glad that one of your dear listeners
mentioned the movie The Sound of Freedom. I think the
greatest movie line of all time was when he said
God's children are not for sale. And if we're serious
about this, we as MAGA, cannot stop until we get
to the bottom. People like Virginia griff she was trafficked.

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She was trafficked all over the world. She was put
on planes, she was sent to different men. We know
that that happened, So don't tell us what we know
to be the truth. What they are doing now is
they are going to let the most powerful men in
America and around the world skate on the abuse, rape,

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and violation of our children, of God's children. And that
does not stand with me, and it won't stand with MAGA.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Why let me ask you this, why why would Pam
Bondi do this? Cash Ptel Dan Bongino, And in particular,
why would President Trump? He went out of his way
to say was his decision yesterday? And then for him
to really attack his supporters, I've never seen him do
this before, saying what do you guys? Can you know

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what do you care about that creep? For he's a loser,
forget about him. Don't bother me with this.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
A.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Were you shocked at his response yesterday? And why why
would Trump and his DOJ and FBI cover up the
Epstein crimes?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Listen, Jeff, I think that President Trump and his entire
administration need to understand that they work for us. We
don't work for them, and they're not allowed to bully us.
We can continue to ask the question. One of the
reasons that he was elected was to get to the
bottom of the Epstein case. And it's clear that he
doesn't want to now the reason why. Only he knows

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the reason why. But it can't be good and will
be no further blessing on his presidency. If he does
not stand up for the protection of children who were
molested and raped by the most powerful men in America,
there will be no further blessing on his presidency. We
cannot allow it. We have to say no. And he's

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got to change his tone because he works for us,
and I don't want to see him, you know, act
so arrogant like, oh, you're going to talk about this now. Yeah,
you talked about in order to get yourself elected, and
we're going to keep talking about it. And he clearly
told the country that the decision is his. So now
he's going to own that decision and he's going to

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have to talk about it. He's going to have to
tell us why. And I don't see any good reason
as to why he's shutting this whole thing down. And
Pam BONDI, she just looks like a doorknob right now.
She looks like a doorknob in that cabinet meeting. I mean, honestly,
if you have any kind of integrity, just resigned. If
somebody told me you're going to shut this case down,
I would say, no, I'm sorry, I'm going to the press.

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I'm resigning right now, and I want Patel and Bongino
to do the same. If they have any integrity, they
all resigned. They should resign as a block in protest
to Trump's decision.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Grace, I have to ask you, and I understand you
feel very strongly about it, so do I. But the
way Trump said it, was there any other way he
could have handled it yesterday that wouldn't have angered so
many people within MAGA, so many of his supporters. It

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was an explosion on social media yesterday. I've never seen
anything like this from people who voted for him three times.
People who love him, I mean, they're still going to
back him obviously, but really disappointed in him, really angry,
and they didn't like the way he said it yesterday.
Was there another way he could have handled it and
at least it would have been better. Could he have

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softened the blow yesterday?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, look, he was there to take the heat off
Pam Bondi because Pam Bondy was in the firing line
the blowback again as her is ferocious and so you know,
everyone was saying she should resign. So he was there
to say, well, no, no, no, don't don't put all
the heat on her. Actually it's coming from me. And

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so by doing that, he now made himself responsible for
this policy. If he was shrewd, he would have just
been quiet, let her handle the question, and it would
the ferocity would still be on her because he would
have at least, you know, one layer of distance from
this decision. But now he's got nowhere to run, and

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now he's going to have to answer as to why
he could have been more shrewd about it. But you know,
he inserted himself into it, and he made it clear
that the decision came from him he did it in
order to protect Pam Bondy, but now he's jeopardized himself
by doing so.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Grace, what do you say to the argument, Yeah, you me,
Steve Bannon. I could go on all the you know,
the big influencers, Benny Johnson, Laura Loomer, I could just
go on and on. Yeah, his voters they're furious, they're upset.
They're going to blow off some steam, you know, like

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on the Koner Report today, and after a couple of
days though, they're going to forget about it. They're going
to move on because they're going to see the success
of the rest of his presidency. The economy is going
to boom, Inflation is going to continue to go down,
the border's going to stay secure, the deportations are going
to ramp up. Energy is going to start being drilled

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again like we've never seen before. Gas prices are going
to start to really plummet. In other words, when he
really start to see him delivering, people are going to say, ah,
it's water under the bridge.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
What say you, No, it won't be water under the bridge.
And the danger that he faces is he's getting very
arrogant and he's slowly starting to isolate different parts of
his base. So he upset Elon Musk and honestly had
a fight. We don't want to revisit that. But the
deficit Hawks are upset with him on tariff. I disagree
with his whole policy. I was not a fan of that.

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I don't want to revisit that. He's starting to upset
some people on America First policies, like Tucker Carlson and
Steve Bennon. Now he's upset those who are values voters
that vote on issues like the protection of children. So
he's just starting to take elements of his base for granted.
And you can only push so far. He's just got

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to be careful. And I hope that everybody listening on
his side in his administration listens to a show like
this and realizes, you're not going to be able to
bully us. You're not going to be able to put
the wool over our eyes. We're all too smart. Has
anybody who heard your callers? You have the smartest callers
and the smartest audience in the United States. You cannot hooplink.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Us grace politically. How much damage do you think this
is going to cost Trump?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think Jeff it's that it's going to be a
damage that is piling on with other issues. You know,
you spent a lot of time today talking about Ukraine.
I opposed the minerals deal. I was one of the
few analysts that said this is really foolish. And the
problem that Trump faces now is if you actually read
the terms of that minerals deal that he signed with Ukraine,

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it was a TACIT security guarantee. There's a phrase there
that says Ukraine and the United States will have US
support for Ukraine's security, prosperity, reconstruction, and integration into the
global economic framework. So Trump signed a TACIT security agreement

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with Ukraine. I set from the start this is going
to embroil us deeper and deeper in two out of
the four Ukrainian lithium resources are on Russian occupied territory.
So if we want to get involved in the minerals
that are in Ukraine, we're going to eventually put ourselves

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on Putin's doorstep. And the problem that Trump faces now
with his foreign policy is nobody can figure out whose
side is he on.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
You know what, Grace absolutely on fire. I think this
is one of your best hits. Ever, really good job Grace.
As always, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
If Jeff doesn't get a day off, this request came
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