Can Marijuana be a Good Thing?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, just to put an exclamation point on that last
just the end of that last segment. So Aldis Huxley,
this was a big disagreement between him and Orwell. Orwell
thought to simplify his message that brute totalitarian force, big brother,
the all powerful state, was the greatest threat to freedom

(00:23):
and liberty. Okay, hence animal farm, hence nineteen eighty four.
Aldus Huxley and they were friends and in many ways
politically they agreed on many issues. Alvis Huxley said, no, no, no, no,
there is a great threat to individual freedom and liberty,
there's no question, and it will come from socialism, but
it's going to be sort of a hedonistic, promiscuous socialism,

(00:49):
meaning that the government will eventually take over all of
our lives, but not through the iron fist that Orwell
warned about, but through getting people hooked on electronics, television, computers.
I'm sure he would go on about everybody being on
their iPhones and iPads today and on social media NonStop.

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In other words, this entertainment culture they called TV at
the time, the boob tube. That all people are going
to do is watch TV and game shows and they
won't know a thing about what's happening around them, because
they're going to be obsessed with entertainment and with drugs,
and with chemicals, and with getting people stoned, and with

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sexual promiscuity, so that people would just, you know, all
they would care about is living for pleasure. And by
living for pleasure, you would become so decadent as a
society that you would be willing to give up your
freedoms and even be able to be manipulated and indoctrinated

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because they can constantly distract you. You won't care what's
happening around you or with your government or in the world,
because all you care about is your next hit, your
next fix, your next TV show, whatever it may be.
So al this Huxy. That's hence the term brave New
World Now sorrows. Read Brave New World the way, by

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the way many leftists have read nineteen eighty four, but
instead of reading it as a warning as like, no,
be careful, this is not what you want to happen
to you, to your society, to your country, Sorros looked
at it as a blueprint, and that was one of
the big reasons why he pushed aggressively the legalization of

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recreational marijuana.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
That's why he was one of the.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Godfathers, because he said, that's exactly what I want. I
want people so freaking stoned that I can control them
and the state can control them. By the way, people
around Biden it's coming out read or Well's nineteen eighty four,
I Need It Done is one of them, and said
that's a blueprint, not all.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
That's what we're going to do.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
We're going to spy and we're going to use the powerful,
the all powerful state, to control people, to censor people,
and to spy on do mass surveillance. So those two
are the greatest novels of the twentieth century, and they're
there as a warning, but to the radical left, they're
actually a blueprint. And here we are, Dana in Georgetown.

(03:31):
Thanks for holding Dana, and welcome, Hi Dana.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, I just wanted to touch on a couple of
points that I've been listening. Well, I listen to you
every morning, I've been for years. First time caller. Welcome Dana,
and I just wanted to bring out a point that
I haven't heard that I believe is one hundred percent true.
The main reason that marijuana is kept on Schedule one

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supposedly having no medicinal value, which we all know is
not true. I know too many people that that get
a good relief from it for a lot of different reasons.
Is because the pharmaceutical and alcohol industry are paying politicians
big money to vote against it. And it's been that
way for a long time. I mean, think about it.

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The pharmaceutical industry, they don't want you to smoke a
little marijuana for some pain relief or depression relief. They
want you on oxy coon and any depressants. That's where
they make their money. The alcohol industry, they don't want
you to have, you know, smoke a little marijuana and
then go to a bar and have two or three drinks.

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They want you to skip the marijuana and have six
or eight drinks. It's it's it's all about money, and
it's all about profits, you know, and and and there's
absolutely no reason to keep marijuana in a Schedule one drug.
That's just it's just pure and simple. And so on

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that point, I believe one hundred percent that's what it is.
And I know people in the industry that I actually
agree with it because that's what they've been told by
the industries that they work for.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Well, Dana, I think there's no question. I'm not saying
I doubt you on alcohol, on the alcohol industry. I
just I mean, I've done the research, so I can
tell you you're a thousand percent correct on big pharma.
Big pharma doesn't want marijuana. They don't want medicinal marijuana,
they don't want any kind of marijuana because they'd rather

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have you on valum or OxyContin or oxy codone, or
on a whole slew of antidepressants instead of you know whatever,
using something more natural or an alternative potentially like marijuana.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
There's no question. Now.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
The other flip side, though, data is that you've got
a lot of money now backing marijuana. And see, this
is the thing. Once big money gets involved, it's like
big government. It corrupts everything.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
It just does.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
And so what they're doing now is, you know, it's
not forty fifty years ago with a two three percent
THCHC level. It's now twenty five, forty fifty sixty seventy
eighty percent THCHC. And now you've got doctors complaining, they've
got car crashes now where people are stoned on marijuana.

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They've got people coming into the emergency room. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay,
So basically, you know, the only point I was just
trying to make, and I thought Dana made an excellent one. Uh,
there's a lot of big money against legalizing marijuana. But
now since you know it's become big pot, it's become

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big marijuana. There's a lot of big money now pushing
it and pushing it hard, and they're leaving out a
lot of the dangerous side effects now of this new
MA marijuana. And there's no question this new marijuana is.
It's almost a new kind of drug. It is not
the marijuana of forget fifty years ago, of even twenty

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twenty five years ago. Now, this is a really really
good text and I think it really sets up the
issue beautifully. It's from six to OZH three. You can
text the cooner man seven zero four seven zero seven
zero four seven zero, Jeff, this is a big topic.
So I'm just gonna make several bullet points. THHC is

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not a physically active substance, and that's the point many
of you have made today. You can become mentally addicted
to using it just like with food or sex or yes,
diet coke. You had to throw that in there, s sex?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh three?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Ah yeah, what do you are you Mike's buddy. I'm
just curious because this sounds almost like a mic style text.
You know, you have to needle the cooner man there,
But let that go so you can get mentally addicted
to using it, just like with food or sex or
diet coke, but not physically addicted. This is why there

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are no withdrawal symptoms when someone quits. It is also
a non toxic substance, unlike alcohol or nicotine. And oh interesting,
and this is why you can't overdose on thchc because
thchc is oil soluble. It gets into the fat cells,

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and this is why it will stay in your system
for up to a month, unlike cocaine.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I had no idea, which is.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Water soluble and is out of your system in three days.
All that said, I don't think, and this is Dana's
point as well, I don't think pot should have ever
been placed as a Schedule one drug with harder drugs
like cocaine or heroin. I do, however, believe that they

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have bred today's marijuana to be way too strong to
an almost weaponized degree. Now this is where I think
there may be some kind of a solution to this, Jeff.
If it's going to be legalized in all fifty states,
the government can easily mandate it to have say a

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THHC content of fifteen percent or less, to keep it
from becoming so powerful.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Interesting, And then it's a long tax, so I can't
read all of it, but he says, Jeff, I also
have a very real concern, and this applies to George
Sorows how much of tech A's marijuana has been genetically modified,
essentially GMO pot. I didn't even think of this. This

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is a great angle. Didn't even think about it. As
a commercial truck driver, I do use marijuana, but I
did stay at a holiday.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Inn last night. In other words, he's not stoned as
he drives. Six one seven.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Two, six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number.
So I mean, there you have it, and you know,
maybe they're going to have to start regulating the THHC
content because it is I think there's no disagreement on that,
maybe one or two, but that this new pot is

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very different, much more powerful, much more addictive, and man
they've loaded it up with THC and maybe now the
state has to step ben and just as we regulate
other things, we have to regulate this as well. Anyway,
just throwing it out there, Keith in Ohio. Thanks for
holding Keith, and welcome.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Good morning to you, Laddie. How are you the day?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I'm very good, Keith. Keith, what do you make of
all this? My friend?

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Well, I'm here to answer any questions you have. I've
had experience since I was thirteen. I'm sixty six. I
don't believe in this. It's too strong. It's like whiskey.
You drink one glass, you drink none. I don't drink
any you know. But they have it to eighty proof.
They have rum to one fifty one. It's just how

(11:41):
you use it, you know what I mean. I do
believe though, that the Chinese and who else is getting
in there and they're doing stuff to it in these
laboratories where they're growing it in these warehouses. If you
want to be safe, grow your own outside. I've done that.
I left Massachusetts. I had four plants eleven feet high
behind my garage. They worked fine. Nobody bothered me.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Keith.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
If I'm getting too personal Please tell me the plants
that you grow. I'm just curious. What is ballpark? What
is the THHC content? Is it low or is it high?
Dispensaries I'm sorry, I mean when you buy them at
the dispensaries.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
I don't go to the dispensaries. I grow my own.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
That's what I'm asking. So the ones that you grow,
what is the THHC content?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Do you know?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
I like it higher. I like the feeling. It's like
adderall for other people. You know some I have injuries
in my body, so I can't take morphine or value
or any of those things. So I use this judiciously
and it works great in my life.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Keith, when you say a high THCHC, are you talking
what fifteen twenty?

Speaker 4 (12:58):
I like about thirty?

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Really? Okay?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Now, Keith, since you've been using it for many years,
have you noticed any side effects, any symptoms from disuse?

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Oh? No, let's take anything. It's how you use it.
I mean, you don't just go to a bar and say, hey,
give me that bottle of whiskey and dump it down
your throat. You know what I mean. It's of course
his kids that are stupid. We did the same thing.
Drinking when I was a child. But I don't drink,
so I have a couple of beers and that's about
all I do. This is more medicinal for me. I

(13:34):
actually make candy, and I'll have a candy before I
go to bed so I can sleep all night.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
You mean, oh, you mean a marijuana candy my own.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
I make it myself.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Hi got you? And it puts you to sleep? And
huh it puts you to sleep?

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Keith, Well, it relaxes me and I'm not thinking about
ten thousand things when I'm trying to go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I hear you because Mike says when the last time
he tried it he couldn't sleep for two days, that
he was anxious. You, oh, you've never done an edible Mike.
So was that a bong if you don't mind me asking,
or was that a joint?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
There?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
It was a joint. Why can't you say joint? He goes, jay,
is that's what it's called? Oh okay, I'm I'm not
up to the lingo, Mike. I'm sorry, I'm not cut
up on all that. So yeah, so he said the
last time he tried it, and I wasn't an edible,
it was a j see how cool I am here?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Keith so.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
And he said it made him anxious, It made him nervous.
He he thought he was going to be invaded by
space aliens. But you're saying, for you, it will. H
You're saying what you you were starting to overreact to things, Mike.
You know, Oh you thought the Russians were coming?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, Mike, I mean, which is it? The Aliens are
the Russians? And you just sat there immobile because you
thought and you watch TV thinking the world was going
to come to an end. Okay, well all right, so
my you know, Mike had a bad experience. But so no,
he says, if I if I take it, I'm not
sleeping for three days.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
You you take an edible.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
A little candy, and uh, you know you're you're snoozing
all night.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah. And I've actually shared it with other people who
had the problem, people you would never suspect, and they're
very receptive and they like it and we'll move on.
I mean, I'm not selling, and I just share with
people who are interested. I have a friend who has Parkinson's.
It helps him a whole bunch. He actually I actually
gave him some first birthday the other day, and he
couldn't be any happier. He's able to sleep. It helps

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him with his walking, with his handshaking and everything. So
there is definitely medical uses that work good. Myself, I
use it like adderall It helps keep me on the
straight and now it helps with concentration. I was in construction,
but I concentrated all day, got everything done. He used
to work most by myself and busted out. You know, no.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Asses okay, no, no ass is okay, it's the F bomb,
and you know, bull, I can't say the rest, you
know the S word, Keith. So you found that it
didn't impact you in terms of your ability to work?
Now did you you? Were you ever stoned while you worked?
Or you just use it after work?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Oh no, it's smoke one on the way to work
in the morning.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Oh you'd smoke it on the way to work.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Oh yeah, interesting, interesting, Keith, Thank you very very much
for that call. Six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, have you ever
used or are you using marijuana?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Nine point fifty on the Great WRKO Jeff Cooner Boston's
Bulldozer six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty
eight is the number. So, uh boy, I'm learning stuff
about Mike. They had no idea, no Mike A in college,
Mike could do a keg, according to him, And you know,

(17:10):
and hold on and hold on, Mike, And on the weekends,
you and your friends will do a keg. Not all
the time, Mike says, but he says he prefers to
special occasions. You and a friend will get a keg
and the two of you and you're saying, and Mike says,

(17:34):
he prefer that's one hundred and eighty beers, Mike Holy
a weekend, you and a couple of friends, holy mackerel.
And Mike says that he prefers you know, he prefers
the keg to to weed. But you know it's again,

(17:55):
it's over the weekend. It's with a couple of friends.
More in college now, but even now, once in a
while he can do a keg, not by himself, but
him and his buddies. You know, you got to give
him two or three days, but they'll get through that keg.
And Mike says that he prefers kat keg. Then you know,
like a j you know like a Yeah, it depends,

(18:18):
Mike says he really wants to insist it depends how
many people are there. If it's just him and a buddy,
he gets a headache. If it's him and a couple
of friends, they no problem. They start Friday night and
they don't stop till Sunday. So and but Mike says
that he feels a lot better. The buzz is a

(18:39):
lot better for him than actually smoking a joint. So
that's interesting, boy, Mike, I'm learning, I mean, I'm learning
stuff about you. It's incredible. Six one seven. You know,
it's a shame you never met my late dad, because
I think you and him on the drinking level would
get along great. Six one seven two six six sixty

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eight sixty eight. Josh in North Carolina. Thanks for holding, Josh,
and welcome.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Hi, guess Hi Josh, I'm listener, first time.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Welcome, Welcome Josh, Josh. I'm just curious, can you and
a couple of friends, can you can you go through
a whole keg over a weekend?

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Well, I was in a fraternity in college a couple
of years ago.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
So connect the talks, Mike says, easily. Josh Man that's
one hundred and eighty. You know, cans of beer in
a keg.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
We used to have.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Well, my parents are listening right now, so I won't
share too much, but we used to have kegs at
our parties, and we stopped letting us have kegs that are.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Party whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
All right, Josh, what are your feelings on weed?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Legalizing weed?

Speaker 5 (20:03):
So this is probably going to surprise a lot of
your listeners. I'm twenty four now. I graduated college two
years ago, and I'm actually very against a weed legalization.
I think it's been a big mistake, honestly, because in
my fraternity you kind of fell into two groups. There
was the guys who would go out every Friday night drinking,

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go to parties, do all the social stuff. I was
in that group, but I had a lot of exposure
to the other group in my fraternity, and they were
the stoners. And something I've noticed with everyone I've known
who smokes weed, the first thing is they always say
they're not addicted, but they do it every day. So

(20:47):
I'm a little skeptical of it not being addictive. But
the main concern I have with it is it seems
to really drain people's ambitions. Because of all the people
I knew who were heavy marijuana users, I didn't know
a single one who was like actively pursuing their dreams

(21:09):
and even like things like studying or going out to
parties like the stoner crowd. It seemed to me they
were just content staying in their apartment and basically smoking
it out. And I'm sure other people have other experiences
with this, but at least from my perspective being in

(21:31):
the younger generation coming up, I do have some real
worries about how many people in my generation use it
so frequently, and I do think it's all by design,
if I'm if I'm honest, like I'm in the confessional.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
With you, Josh, do you think in twenty years a
majority of Americans will be using marijuana almost on a
daily basis.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
I hope not.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
I think that would be really bad for our country,
because I just in I'll be honest. I know my
parents are listening, but I've tried it a couple of times,
but from my experience with it, it.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Really Mike, you cut him off at this point. You
this is the point.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
You couldn't give him another five seconds, Mike said, seriously,