Capital Punishment

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six seven, sixty eight, sixty eight. This is Sandy Shack
sitting in for Jeff Cooner on the Kooner Report. I
think the Democrat implosion yesterday over the Minneapolis school shooting,
you know, jumping on gun control before we even knew
what the death toll was, as well as a denigrating prayers, has.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Driven uh.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Panic in the Democratic Party was driven by panic over
the fact that the Democrats themselves had put themselves in
a in a very bad position regarding crime because President
Trump had made fighting crime a big issue and they
and it has been very successful at fighting crime. And

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they have to be against anything that Donald Trump is
against because they have painted him as the Democrat Antichrist.
And so that's why, you know, they they made some
very foolish public statements and positions by by saying it
was bad to fight crime, and so now they had

(01:07):
an opportunity in their minds, I think, to be on
the side of the angels and do say, oh, we're
against crime because you know, hey, we're calling for gun control.
I think that's what was happening. But instead of helping
themselves out of a hole, I think they dug themselves
in deeper because they are so angry they can't see straight.

(01:30):
And why are they so mad? Well, you know, because
Trump is successful.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
You know he is.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
He is cleaned up DC. It's amazing what he's done.
Even Mayor Bowser has acknowledged that he has been able
to clean up the city. I mean, who would have
thought you'd ever see Mayor Bowser admit that, but she did,
and she is so and I think they're really angry
that he's successful. One and two, he's also suggesting that

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maybe he'll take his crime patrol to other cities.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Cut number sixteen. Please, Mike, Chicago's a mess.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
You have an incompetent mayor, grossly incompetent. And we'll straighten
that one out probably next that'll be our next one
after this, and it won't even be tough. And the
people in Chicago, mister Vice President, are screaming for us
to come. They're wearing red hats, just like this one,
but they're wearing red hats. African American ladies, beautiful ladies,

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are saying, please, President Trump, come to Chicago.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Please.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I did great with the black vote, as you know,
and they want something to happen. So I think Chicago
will be our next and then we'll help with New
York and we're going to help with us. And I think, really,
I think a lot of and a lot of these
people that you see on television they are, including the
people in this audience. They'll say bad things about me,
and then they'll say, think gut, he's here because half

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of them got mugged and they don't want to get
mugged again.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
So and we have seen we've heard those stories over again.
I remember is the press who are stationed in DC,
how they've been mugged. So I think that really angers them.
One he's successful. Two he's going to take it to
other cities. And then he did something the other day
which I think really set them over the edge. And
this is that he floated the idea of bringing back

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the death penalty into Washington as a crime deterrent for murder.
Cut five A please Mike, it'll.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Be a crime free city.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
By the way, speaking of that, anybody murders something in
the capitol, capital punishment, capital capital punishment. If somebody kills
somebody in the Capitol Washington, DC, we're going to be
seeking the death penalty. And that's a very strong preventative

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and everybody that's heard it agrees with it. I don't
know if we're ready for it in this country, but
where you have it, it is, we have no choice.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
So in DC and Washington, states are gonna have to
make their own decision. But if somebody kills somebody like
you could have been killed, very lucky you didn't get killed.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
It's the death penalty.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Hmm. You know that's that's those are tough words.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Capital punishment for the capital.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Do you approve? Do you think that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
It's it's the ultimate move in the federal crackdown on crime,
and he's using Washington as a test case. You know,
he's ramped up the federal law enforcement efforts and he's
trying to establish, you know, forces in each date's National
Guard to be ready on short notice. And he signed

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last Monday a crime focused Executive Order that included a
directive to the Defense Secretary to organize these plans for
the national Guard for the other cities. But then he
brought up the idea of capital punishment in the capital,
which you know, he's nothing.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
If not a wordsmith.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
He likes those slogans, and the District of Columbia hasn't
executed anybody since nineteen fifty seven, after a guy named
Robert Carter was convicted of fatally shooting and off duty
police officer. Now, DC had mandatory death sentences for first
re murders, but that was voided by the Supreme Court
in nineteen seventy two in a case called Furman versus

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Georgia when they found that the death penalty was being
applied in an unconstitutional arbitrary manner, And four years later,
the High Court allowed capital punishment to be reinstated as
long as there were clearer sentencing guidelines. But back in
nineteen eighty one, the DC City Council abolished the death penalty.

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So that's where that's basically where President Trump is stepping in.
He didn't outline any specifics, but he called capital punishment
a very strong preventative measure, and he says he, you know,
it is a state decision, but in the nation's capital,

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he can he can put it.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
They can have a choice.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
So traditionally, the DC Superior Court handles the bulk of
murder cases, and it would be bound by the city
Code that does not authorize capital punishment. However, the US
Attorney's office, which prosecutes crimes in both local and federal courts,
which doesn't happen anywhere else but in d C. Could
bring federal charges in many capital eligible cases and seek

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the death penalty. So they could do an end around
around the city council by doing that, and that would
be a to US Attorney Janian perom So capital punishment
in the capitol.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Add that to our discussion. Do you approve of that?
Is that a good idea?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Is this another reason why the Democrats are so mad
at President Trump to the point where they shot themselves
no pun intended in the foot Again yesterday in Minneapolis.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I'm Sandy Shack billing in for Jeff Kooner.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
The Democrats jumped off a cliff yesterday after the Minneapolis
church school shooting, saying, in the person of Minneapolis Mayor
Jacob Frye, we don't need prayers, we need action, referring
to gun control. This was echoed across the Democrat universe,
which alienated conservatives, independents, and non progressives everywhere. I believe,

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why would they make such a serious mistake in using
the deaths of children within minutes really and denigrating prayer
at the same time.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Why would they do that?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Is it because they were made to look so foolish
by President Trump's crime fighting spree that he went on
that he is successful, and they they because they hate
him so much and are so upset by him that
they have to be against anything. If he says the
sky is blue, they're going to say it's green. If

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he says crime is bad, they have to say it's good.
Is their illness so deeply rooted that that's what happened?
And so they realized that they looked like jackasses, some
of them did. Some of them were out there saying, hey,
wait a minute, guys, this is we've fallen into a trap,
the words of Chris Matthews.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
But is that so.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
They were quick, too quick to jump on Minneapolis as
a way of trying to bring their anti crime cred
back up, and instead it backfired on them. I also
think that President trump suggestion that the death penalty be
brought back to d C made the dysphoria even worse.
And I think that's another reason why they did not

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think it through. Yesterday at the Minneapolis after the Minneapolis
schools shooting, and the President made the suggestion of bringing
the death penalty back for DC capital punishment back in
the capital during his cabinet meeting at the beginning of
the week, And as I said before the break, the

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DC Council controls that, but you can do an end
run around them, because the US Attorney's Office in DC
can actually bring local crime as federal crime. They can
rename it and do it that way, and you do
have the federal death penalty, so that's how you would
do it, and it would be up to the US
Attorney's Office, which prosecutes crimes in both local and federal,

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to bring it back in capital eligible cases, and it
will be up to US Attorney Jeanine Pirou, who is
on board with the idea. Cut four hundred please, Mike.
So we have a little bit of a computer. It
seems kind of like a misnumber when we're talking about
something serious, but we tend to call it the spinning
wheel of death, and it's kind of appropriate in this

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particular case.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
But that's what's happening.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
But Janine Piro has said that we will use all
legal sanctions and sentences called for by law, and okay,
go ahead and play it, Mike.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
The presidents of to day that anybody can murder somebody.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Watch in DC. We'll have the death down to broad.

Speaker 7 (10:26):
Against something that is going to happen in your office.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Well, absolutely, I think that when the President came in,
the Attorney General indicated that we would be seeking the
death penalty in appropriate cases. And obviously there was a
whole process that we go through in a couple of
weeks ago with the capital murder, the murder of the
two individuals from the Capital Museum, we indicated what that

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process is. It's a very deliberative process, but we will
absolutely be following the President's directly, and it ultimately is
in the hands of the Attorney General who makes that decision.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
So it looks sounds like she's on board. Are you
on board with that?

Speaker 1 (11:09):
I'm gonna make that the pole question today, which you
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Speaker 2 (11:23):
You can take the pole.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Question is should capital punishment be brought back to the Capital?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yes or no?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Because I think that's an appropriate question and I think
that's one of the reasons why the Democrats took a
header off a cliff yesterday and did something so distasteful
as call for gun control before the smoke clear to
the church shooting at the same time saying, you know, prayer,
God is dead, don't we don't need your prayers. I

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think that's what put the nudge them over that cliff yesterday.
Tony from Florida. Do you think I'm right in my
assessment or am I misthing?

Speaker 8 (12:02):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (12:02):
Sandy, You're absolutely right.

Speaker 7 (12:04):
I agree with you one hundred percent on everything that
you've said this morning and on this issue. And I
definitely agree with, excuse me, with President Trump, you know,
on everything he wants to do, you know, with the
capital punishment and everything. So I'm with them always in lockstep.

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But uh, Sandy, one of the one of the things
you have, you know, with the with the mayor, you know,
he says, you know, we don't, we don't need prayer
and thoughts and prayers, and uh, you know, and then
you had actually the legacy media, by the way, Sandy,
where as you know, you know, the legacy media that
they're not they're not journalists, these are activists. And let's

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just give you an example when you had.

Speaker 9 (12:53):
Uh, strawberry shortcake circle back.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
Jen Psaki also said yesterday, oh, enough with the thoughts
in the prayers, and then then they want to jump
on the guns and Andy, they want to jump on
the guns and say, oh, we got to stop the guns.
That's the typical narrative with the with the left wingers,
will the wingers and then you have you know, obviously,
then then they're gonna then they're gonna be protecting the

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trans community. And I don't even know if I call
it a community, because you know what, there are two genders,
a man and a woman. Let's face it here, and
I'm not going to be politically correct. I never ram
and I never will be. But there's a man and
a woman. That's all there is.

Speaker 8 (13:32):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (13:32):
So they want to protect the trans community.

Speaker 7 (13:35):
They want to protect part of the MANIFESTI I think
because of it, just like the the Nashville shooter not
that long ago in the Christian school. So they want
to do that. And then look where it happened Mini Minnesota.
Who's the governor, a governor Tim Waltz, who puts tampons
in boys' bathrooms.

Speaker 8 (13:53):
So so look look look at the source.

Speaker 7 (13:55):
Look what this is coming from here, Okay, And then
you you can go deeper this Sandy and talk about
you know, this whole Pride month. Oh, they get the
month of June and they want their trans flags out there,
and then they have their pride parades, the drag Queen's
Story hours, and then you have these parades where the

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parents take their kids to these.

Speaker 10 (14:17):
Parades and they think it's funny, right, they think it's oh,
this is great, right, So look look at what is
being exposed to the children in this country. It's an
absolute disgrace. It's an absolute disgrace.

Speaker 9 (14:30):
And you know, and so you know, it's just you know,
you know, there's so many layers to the onion Sandy.
I mean, I don't know if we have enough hours
in the day right for this issue.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
There are so many.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Every time I turn around, there's there's something else. And
yesterday was one of those days. Is I'm looking at
what happened, and I'm listening to the press conferences and
I'm reading, you know, everything that I can about what
happened in Minneapolis.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
But I'm not leaving my ears.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
First of all, and Waltz, who was supposed to go
out and talk, and he did, and he said the
right things. About you know, kindness and empathy. I have
all of that. That's and he actually called for prayers.
But the interesting thing to me is he kind of
caught himself. He almost didn't call for the fact I'm
gonna I want to. I don't remember which one that was, Mike.
I think it was the last one of Mike Waltz's cuts.

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He caught himself like, maybe I shouldn't ask for thoughts
and prayers, but then he did. I think it's for
ten c Please, Mike.

Speaker 11 (15:40):
Minnesotan's will not step away. We'll stand with this community.
We'll redouble ourselves to do the best we can to
understand what we can do to prevent any parent from
having to receive the calls they received today from any
school dedicated to children having to respond to a situation that,

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as we said, is unthinkable, but it's all too common,
not just in Minnesota, but across this country. It's Minnesota's
day to day, and it's my strongest desire that no state,
no community, no school ever experiences a day like this.
So I asked the rest of folks around the country
who are watching, keep us in your thoughts and prayers,

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but also keep us in the thoughts for action keep
us in the ideas that we can work together. And
it's on these days like this, I think, and I
hope he can hold on to it. We are unified
as a community. Everybody across the country today is part
of the Annunciation Parish and they're with those families. So
did you.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Notice that, Tony. I mean, he was saying the right
things I think on many levels. But when he's went
to ask for thoughts and prayers, he stopped for a second, like,
wait a minute, should I do that? Because I don't
think it's in the progressive playbook, and he's definitely progressive.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
And then right after.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
That you had the mayor of Minneapolis saying, we don't
want your thoughts and prayers. We are talking about how
yesterday appallingly. There was just the behavior by the Democrats
responding to the Minneapolis church shooting just kind of floored me.
They were standing in the shattered glass of the church
while saying, one, don't send prayers and two we need

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gun control. I can't think of anything that would aggravate
Americans more especially those of faith. Why would the Democrats
who are hemorrhaging members and whose voter registration is cratered.
Why would they make that kind of mistake and aggravate
people as opposed to bring people on board. Well, obviously

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they're tone deaf. They don't understand how Americans think, and
I think that was really demonstrated in the last election.
But I think more than that, it's Trump, it's just
Trump dysphoria. They're just so angry that President Trump has
been successful, and I think they were set over the
edge when he wants to bring back capital pun to
a d C, which he said he wanted to do

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while he was in his cabinet meeting this past week,
and there's a way he can do it and without the.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
DC Council's approbation.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
So I think that's what's happened. And I think they
thought what they were doing because they're so myopic they
only see their own desires that they thought that it
would make them appear as if they're on the side
of law and order by asking for gun control and
they were against crime.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
It doesn't.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
It makes them look craven, and it makes them look
completely egocentric, meaning they only care about themselves and they're
just they just care about this issue because it's an
issue they can use to to fight Donald Trump with
because he is on the opposite side of it.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I think that's what it made them look like.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
And I think they made a massive miscalculation yesterday. What
do you think, Jack and Danvers? Welcome to WRKO. How
are you, sir?

Speaker 7 (19:00):
Sanny?

Speaker 12 (19:00):
Thank you so very much for taking my call. Just
a quick brief background me very succinctly forty five years
an educator, classroom teacher, principal, superintendent. The majority of my
career was within urban, ethnically diverse environments, so I was
dealing on a daily basis a student safety, which I

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always believed to be priority one, and I had to
deal with regulations around weapons, whether that be bras knuckles,
so whether that be a handgun, And ultimately I was
called into a gymnasium in an emergency situation to stand
between two students, one shooting a gun at the other,
and successfully negotiated that handgun to be relented to be

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given to me. And I truly believe to this day
that the reason the child surrendered it to me because
I had a relationship with that student. He knew who
I was, he knew what I stood for, and so forth,
what I'd like to do if it's okay, is I
just wanted to float two ideas that I do not
hear in a regular basis, and then maybe your audience
could process them. The first idea is what is the

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motivation of those who would go into a house of
worship or go into a school. And some people would say, oh,
there's a whole variety of reasons, when I would say,
universally with a background in human behavior, it's always the
same motivation. They want a voice. They are disempowered, they
want a voice. They're not heard, and they believe that

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in taking dramatic action like this, they will be heard.
So the first idea that I would float is is
that as a society, as a culture, and as perhaps
a policing agency, we need to stop publishing manifestos. We
need to stop overprocessing within the public forum. Why these

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individuals have act again, I believe it's because they want
a voice and we are giving them that voice. We
need to stop doing that. Secondly, and you're a lawyer,
so I'm going to entrust it to you as to
whether it's even feasible. But I have long thought that
houses of worship and schools on a federal level should

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be determined as weapon free zones. And if we did
that on the federal level. There is a fantastic book
out that I'd recommend to everybody. It's called Drive Drive,
written by the author Paint, and it talks about if
the consequence outweighs the proposed action, people won't take the action.

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In other words, if the punishment is swift in proportionate,
they'll second guess whether they're going to do it or not.
And in this case, I would say to you, we
don't need gun control. What we need is if that
someone attacks one of these vulnerable identified areas with a weapon,
they have violated the social contract and it should be
capital punishment. And then I don't mean to sound extreme,

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but I think you can hear in me the passion
that I have for children. If it's going to be
capital punishment, should consider the English model of a public execution,
where people see, if I'm going to want my voice
and I'm going to use weapons as a violence to
empower my voice, then I know the consequence is my

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voice is not going to be heard and I put
my own life at risk.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I absolutely I hear the passion in your voice, and
you have really articulated beautifully your positions on this. I
agree with one and I disagree with the other. Sort
of the first one regarding the manifestos, I think is brilliant.
I completely agree with you. I think they do want

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to be heard, and I think that's evident by the
postings on Facebook, and we take down you know, law
enforcement takes down those postings on social media as soon
as they're identified for that reason, and I think not
publishing manifestos is a very good response to what we've

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been seeing lately. On the second one, the weapon free zones,
I like the idea of making schools and churches federal
areas so that you know, you can do capital punishment
regardless of what the holding in the state is on
capital punishment. But here's the problem with making it weapon

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free Jack. The church where this happened in Minneapolis was
a weapon free zone. It was a no gun zone,
and that's why it was chosen. That's why this gunman
chose the church as opposed to this school, which was
not a gun free zone. So he wanted a place

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where there would be nobody firing back at him. That's
why he chose it. So they would not be able
to defend themselves. I think that's the problem with gun
free zones. I don't think it has It's not a
it's a magnet as opposed to are What do you
think of that particular issue?

Speaker 12 (24:04):
Follow up to your logic is, and I'm not playing semantics, no,
go right ahead. If you declare a gun free zone,
how then does it not become attractive to the person
carrying the weapon? And the answer is, because the federal
government is holding a weapon and they're going to execute
you for what it is that you're going to do.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well, you can do that.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
But you can do that by just declaring it a
federal zone, just saying federal laws are going to You
don't have to make it a gun free zone to
make it a federal zone. You just declare it a
federal zone, so you can have that deterrent without making
it a gun free zone.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
So I think the.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Problem was this church was chosen because it was a
gun free zone. It was which you wanted to be,
and that's why he chose it. That's why he shot
the gun there, because he knew there would be nobody
there to fire back at him. And that's the problem.
If you designate areas. I mean most churches or schools,
no nobody knows if somebody has a gun or not.

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It's they're not gun free zones that you just don't know.
There could be, there couldn't be. The odds are there isn't,
but you don't know for sure. And so, but he
chose the church because it was labeled a gun free zone.
So that did not help anybody. And I think that
you can find another way. Maybe you just make all
churches for the point. You'd have to pass legislation obviously,

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but you would make all churches under federal jurisdiction for
a crime.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Maybe it has something, you know. I don't know how
you would do.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
It, or what who wants to do it, or how
you would go about doing that, but you would have
to be a Congression legislation that does that. But you
could do it that way, Jack, And so you can
have your deterrent without having your magnet.

Speaker 12 (25:46):
That's the thing your thoughts. I'm thinking that the legislation
could define that it's a weapon free zone, meaning someone
from the outside could not bring one in, but that
would not under regulation for hibit maybe the church or
the school from having, you know, like in school as
a safety officer with a firearm, so that they know
that there is an immedia consect bunch for going into
the school.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
The problem is that the gunman is not going to
pay attention to the sign that says no guns in
regard to carrying guns. I mean, so what purpose does
it serve If you're saying it's a no gun free zone,
you're just telling him that most of the people there
aren't going to have guns.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
There might be a policeman there, there might not be
Why do that?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Why set that in his head is that this is
a group of sheep that I can mow down with
my gun, Because that's what that does. And so you
know that's why it doesn't serve a purpose. It just doesn't.
You can find another way to make capital punishment applicable
without making it a gun free zone. Gun free zone
did not help anybody in Minneapolis. It didn't help anybody.

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So I don't see the purpose of doing it when
you can get the same deterrent that you think should
apply by not doing a.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Gun free zone.

Speaker 12 (26:56):
And one last closing comment, it's not random. It has
to do with what we're talking about. If you were
to go to Tokyo today, you would be shocked to
know that three and a half year olds are walked
to a subway every morning because they are required to
go to school, and on the subway trains there is
a designated car with two or three monitors, and three

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to three and a half year olds get on that
butt that subway car every morning and go to school safely.
Really interesting, right, that a culture has preserved the obligation,
if you will, to minor children, that the response to
someone having anything to do with attacking that car is

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so incomprehensible that the children are safe, that is.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
I think that is an amazing thing, a very interesting
statistic and a very interesting piece of information. Thank you
so much for that, Jack. It does make us think
about what more we could do here to make life
safer for not just our kids, but for everybody.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Thank you, Jack. I appreciate the call.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Let's go to Frankie in Canton. Frankie, welcome to w
r KO. How are you, Frankie?

Speaker 13 (28:07):
Love in life?

Speaker 14 (28:08):
I think what I think what Jack was just getting
at was he was talking about like a militaristic style
policing right there, which I don't know, couldn't bad I
guess if you if you trust your leaders, but I
don't know that kind of throws out the whole liberal,
liberalistic idea of community policing.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah it does, although it seems to work in Japan
for that car with the kids.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I find that fascinating that that.

Speaker 14 (28:32):
You can, you know, in all where we could trust
our duly elected officials. So when I did have to say, what,
there is a relationship I was seeing from like sex
trafficking and you know, the Democratic Party, and it's kind
of bizarre, but when you look at it, you know,
if you have any conversations with these these the pimps,

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what they look for. I had a conversation with one
of them and he he told me the first thing
I look for, and a woman is intelligence. If she
doesn't have that, she's mine. So that's why they target children.
And it's kind of like what the Democratic Party's doing.
They're indoctating our children through our school systems, brainwashing them.
And so when they're you know, oh yeah you can

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do this, they're exposing to all these things, normalizing them,
and it's like, well, why are we going to vote
for these people? So they start out being like we're
going to give you this, We're going to give you that.
You have to do this for us, This is normalized
for us, and then they just have these voters for life.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Well, I think that was true, and I think that's
exactly what their plan was. I think you put your
finger on it. But I also think that it's not
working as well as I thought it would, because hence
the last election when a lot of younger people voted
for Donald Trump. Because no matter how well indoctrinated you are,
and absolutely it works great with some people, I think
you have other people who become thoughtful and when they're lying,

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eyes tell them something different than what they're being told.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
They start to ask questions.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
And so I think, like you said, the more intel
they are as they grow up, their own intelligence starts
to assert itself and some are asking questions. And I
think that's what's happened and why there's been a huge
shift in the party bases. And Donald Trump has been successful.
And these people who were indoctrinated can see with their

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own two eyes and here with their own two ears
the things that he's doing that are successful, regardless of
what the Democrats say, regardless of what legacy media has
been telling them, and I think that's why there's uh,
you know why the Democrats are are hemorrhaging voter registrations.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I mean they are.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
They are like, it hasn't been this bad in decades
and decades and decades for them, and they have hit bottom.
I think there are many reasons for that, and one
of which is they they don't understand that they come
across as tone deaf and I think yesterday Frankie was
a big example of that. Coming out after a school

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shooting and saying we don't need your prayers, you know,
we need gun control while the ambulances are still pulling
away from the church. Is just shocking on so many levels.
Whether you're a Catholic or not.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
It was like what and it just.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
And that tone deafness is what's alienating those people that
they used to be able to count on.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I think, don't you think.

Speaker 11 (31:35):
Say more?

Speaker 14 (31:35):
And I think that's the reason that they are so
anti you know, Christian faith. You know, I'm a pretty
okay Catholic myself. I go to Mass on Sundays. But
you know that's why they don't want it. If you
look at the younger generation, I mean, God bless, I'm
stoked about it. But young men are voting more and
leaning more conservative. Young men are also believing in Jesus.

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It's like it's a crazy coincidence. But family values, it's like,
you know, back to the whole you know, child driving
and thing. You know, they're looking for. One of the
things that they look for is what does that person's
father look like? Is he a scary guy? If he's
not an intimidating guy. Well, I think that's an easy
target for me. Oh, there's no father. We don't have

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a family structure. That's what they don't want. That's where
the Section eight housing and all that stuff comes in,
I think. But I think they that's why they want
to They're following the same playbook as like the I
guess pimping playbook or whatever you call it.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, that's an interesting analogy.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I think it really is.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Frankly, yeah, I think, and I think it did work
at one point. I just don't think it's working as well.
And they haven't evolved past it. They can't get past
it because I don't think they have any leaders anymore.
Remember Kamala Harris was asked when she went on with
Stephen Colbert basically who's the leader of the party. And
she couldn't give an answer. She could not give an answer.
Her response was there are no there are many. She

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couldn't name a person. I could name one person that
would be arguably the head, but she couldn't. And you know, wow,
that is another part of the problem. So in effectiveness,
no leadership. These are the things that they can't seem
to get past. And they're enraged by their own malfeasance,

(33:20):
I think. And they're using Donald Trump as the scapegoat
for anything that they've done that's been a huge mistake,
and so everything he does now enrages them instead of
looking in the mirror and saying, how can I evolve?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
What can I do differently?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
And that's to our benefit, Frankie at the moment, because
it means that they're being exposed for the non thinking,
self absorbed politics that they've been putting forth for a while.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Thank you so much for the call. I appreciate it
very much. Let's go to Zach in Stoughton. Zach, welcome
to w RKO.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
How are you.

Speaker 8 (34:01):
One of them? Go a little deep. Sometimes I don't
make much sense, but I have all these thoughts running
through my head. I was probably you know, about the
age of the kids that got shot up in that
church yesterday where you know, the movie Exorcist come out,
and you know, as I remember, just kind of questioning

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so much about like I always thought that life was
just so peaceful and happy, and then all of a sudden,
you know, and I started have to question, like, is
there a devil? If we believe in Christ, we're supposed
to believe in the devil. And you know, it's funny
you see, you know, the district church up and Salem,

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and you see all these different things deplicted with Satan
with breasts and a muscular body, and I just feel
like we're fighting more than we even can imagine. And
you know, religion missing in our world is so important.
It's just it's just so important. And you know, with

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these kids and they're looking for something and they're not
getting it from our society anymore. And you know that
last guy saying that, you know, capital punishment, they're killing themselves,
and that just shows how much the mental disorder we
have going on too. Without our morals and values and

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Ten Commandments and stealing and everything like that goes along
with a lot of these political people that just have
no problem ripping us off.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Well, the breakdown of law is, you know, exact the
breakdown of like what I think exactly what you're talking
about was happening when you had this whole slew of
progressive DA's voted in who didn't prosecute what they called,
you know, low level crimes like vandalism, like shoplifting, and
then then you have a further breakdown from there. So
I think that goes along with what you're talking about.

(35:57):
And then Donald Trump comes in to fix that, to
fix all that up, and I think that's.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Part of.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
The their anger is that he's rolling back these policies
that that were eating away at the fabric of our society.
And so they were they were making these strange plays
in order to try to get back the power that
they had, and I think it's backfiring on them, don't you.

Speaker 13 (36:29):
Putin must have said when they got off the red cap,
but he probably said, oh, ohma, Joe Biden would have
brought some transgenders. You know, It's like it's almost like
the rest of the world is watching us too, and
it's like, you know, when when people, you know, accept.

Speaker 15 (36:48):
Moten and anybody even comes out about any sort of
pushback on this topic, it is, uh, you know, a
backlash across the way, but it's it has to be
something that we have to take a look at as
society because you know, when Donald Trump says there's a
man and a woman, it's basically like he just wiped

(37:11):
out a percentage of kids that are sitting in front
of their computer in the basement that he just killed
them in their own crazy mind. He just said, no,
you don't exist, and they truly probably believe the mental
deficiency the people that he just killed them, you know,
and that's where I think a huge amount of his

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anger is coming from. You know, that we're not recognizing them.

Speaker 9 (37:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, I don't think that it's that they think that
Donald Trump has killed them. I think they believe what
they're told by legacy media and activists and the progressives
that Donald Trump has killed them. I don't think they
would have thought that Donald Trump did anything. I think
they've been told that he's the Antichrist and he's the guy.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
So I think

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Think I think you're right, and I think it's but
I think it's been it's a put up job