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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've been talking about how to combat anti Semitism, racism
and intolerance in our country, which I think bloomed under
DEI policies. And our text number is seven zero four
seven zero, and I got this text during the break
and I want to share it with you and get
your opinion of it. So let me read this you.
(00:21):
It's from nine to seven eight area code Sandy or
whoever the bleep you are. I just want you to
know just how bleeping disgusting you are. You're a lawyer
and no better than to spread all the lies you do.
You also don't sound authentic. You sound like you don't
believe what you're saying. A woman supposedly supporting a fascist
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rapist question mark. We all know you're doing this for
a paycheck. You are helping destroy the nation. You will
go to hell for what you're doing. You all deserve death. Okay, wow,
let me just point out nine to seven eight. You
just made my point. Uh. To be honest with you,
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you are a bastion of intolerance. You don't like what
I have to say, so I deserve death. Let me
guess which party you belong to? You are? You are
the walking definition of what is wrong with progressive left
policies and DEI is there anybody else who would like
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to respond to this text or feel free? Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the
number here six one seven two sixty six six eight
sixty eight. Let's go to Dan in New Hampshire. Dan,
welcome to WRKO. How are you today?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah? Good, good Sandy, Like always, you're doing a good
job stilling in for Jeff. And I agree with this
DDI stuff that you're talking about. But it's doing a
lot of things, you know, like the shooter, the shooters
and stuff and all the corruption. But people got to
(02:05):
look at where it's coming from. It's coming from these
dirty or organization Dack blue A, c l U R Bella, Okay, Uh,
the Tides Foundation, Open Society, they're infecting the academia, they're
they're they're propping up in back backing their bank rolling GLM,
(02:26):
the protesters, Antifah, George Soros, Plosh Schwatz. These are the
people that are doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And and it's a massive amount of people. It goes
beyond that, it goes Melinda Gates, Reid Hoffman, Warren Buffett,
Ted Turner, bloom Mike Bloomberg, Uh, Sigrid, Sergey brin Mark
Uh Cuban, Doug Leone, Jeff, Yes, it's it's unbelievable, Okay,
Bill Dates, zucker Bird pricks the family. So Jeff Bezos,
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Lauren Paul Jobs. People got to do this homework here, okay,
because sometimes we're we're involved in this stuff by investing,
spending on money in the wrong places. Okay. So, and
and you got to look at the oval lapse here
because it's also coming it's a uniparty charade. Okay. I
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can point out to the fact that you take a
look at at Sindy McCain, who backed Joe Biden, Okay,
who was put in as the US ambassador to the
UN Agencies for the food in agriculture under Biden. So
there's an oval lap here tied to the McCain institute.
You got doctor Evelyn Practice lying about what's going on
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in the Ukraine, Okay. You got the dirty media in
Dustier complex owned by six companies, Okay, they're running cover
for what's going on in Ukraine. Okay. There's pewing lies
and narrative. Okay. When it's NATO in the UN that dirty,
(04:01):
corrupt globalist system tied in. Okay, with all this corruption,
these same names that I just named dot are tied
into this stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I mean, I'm gonna hold you there because I don't
disagree with what you're saying, but I don't want to
go too far afield into the un so I appreciate
the call very much. I I think I think you're right.
There is a there is a global conspiracy going on,
and I think that's one of the reasons why President
Biden got into the White House, and I think that's
one of the reasons why the progressive left gained such
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power during his administration. I think he is responsible for DEI.
I think he is responsible or for the people that
were pulling the strings while he was in he was
in the White House, or responsible for DEI and the
growth of anti Semitism and the growth of racism and
the growth of intolerance. I think this is all part
and parcel of the same thing. Let's go to Chris
(04:53):
in Gloucester. Chris, Welcome to w RKO. How are you great?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I agree with the texture, okay, and what is wrong
with being intolerant of somebody who uses fringer to rape
a woman in a department store organized a violent rally
to overturn the election. Pardon people who violently attacked police officers.
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What's wrong with that? And had the two most prolific
anti semis Nick Fuentes and what's his face Kanye for
dinner at the White House? What's wrong with being intolerant
of those behaviors or people who support those behaviors.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Okay, Well, first of all, I disagree with your premise
about the digital rape. They never showed that he did that.
He wasn't convicted of rape. He was convicted of basically
libel slander. That's what that case was about. One two,
when he found out the anti Semitic views of those
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people you mentioned, he distanced himself from them. He didn't
know before, he knew afterwards. So that was that was
part of it. And then I forgot what the oh
the January sixth, he did not organize a violent protest
at the nation's capital. He in fact told people to walk,
organized a rally and then told people to walk peacefully
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and patriotically down to the capitol. Then when it got
out of control, because there were other forces at work
that had nothing to do with him, and it became violent.
He sent out on Twitter for people to go home,
but Twitter took it down immediately. The National Guard he
wanted to be there were turned down by Mayor Bowser
and the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi. And then
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he'd went on TV and said please go home. You know, everybody,
go home. This is not what we need. The people
who brought in weapons into the Capitol, for the most part,
were Antifa. In fact, we have a video of a
guy who said that's what he was going to do beforehand,
and that's what he did, and he taped himself doing it.
So I think that your premise are wrong, first of all,
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and secondly, even if they were correct, Tolerance means you
listen to people that you don't like. Doesn't mean that
you agree with them or act upon them, but it
means everybody gets a voice, including you. You just got
a voice on a show even though you were offensive
and lied, but you still got a voice because I
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am tolerant of other people that have different opinions than me.
Doesn't mean I like you, doesn't mean I'm going to
support you, but I'm tolerant of you. On the text line,
which is seven zero four, seven zero five of eight
says the texture is wrong. You are sincerely wrong about everything,
but well intended and utterly charming. Well, thank you. That's kind. See,
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that's tolerance. They are tolerating me even though they do
not agree with me, and I appreciate that very much.
Let's go to Lotti in Boston. Lotti, Welcome to WRKO.
How are you?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Oh, thank you for having me on the show. Thank you, Lattie.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I have so much to talk about, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Going to talk about God in the schools and God
in the United States. What I'm seeing since I say
after the coronavirus. Oh, Lottie, I'm sorry. I know you
have a lot to say. Stay on the line, don't
go anywhere. The text number here is seven zero four
seven zero. This is Sandy Shack sitting in for Jeff
Cooner here on the Kooner Report. On the text line
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number let's see five oh eight says the dinner was
at Mar A Lago, which is open to the public,
referencing Chris from Gloucester who was saying that President Trump
invited anti Semites into the White House for dinner, and no,
it was at mar Alago. Once you figured out their
Antie summits that was the end of it. But he
was giving everybody a fair hearing because you know what,
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he's tolerant, so he doesn't support anti stematism. I think
that's been pretty clear. Given the fact also that his
daughter and grandcha or Jewish. I think it would be
a stretch to call him an anti Semite. But you
know what you're saying. Number let's see number nine seven
eight says Sandy. DEI stands for division, exclusion, and intolerance.
(09:15):
That's what would it appear as opposed to the more
common acronym standings. Yeah, I agree with you, division, exclusion,
and intolerance. I think that is a very good use
of those those three letters, because that's all I see
happening from DEI. And I have yet to see somebody
(09:39):
who says that this worked out really well for them
under DEI. It's that it bred tolerance, that it bread
more understanding, that it gave people an opportunity that was
not at the expense of somebody else. I just don't
see that happening, And I was very grateful that the
Trump administration has made an effort to draw DEI. Let's
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go to Charlotte in Boston, Charlotte, Welcome to w RKO.
How are you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I'm doing well. Excuse the speaker, Sandy, but I have
hearing issues. This quote I came across not too long ago.
And for some folks out there, they will be nodding
their heads, and for others they'll be clutching their pearls
and getting the vapors. And this is a quote from
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Honorey to Baalzac, which is equality may be a right,
but no power on earth can ever turn it into
a fact. I think that is to me incredible that
that's the quote. That you could have hours of discussion
anyway and finally running to an appointment. But I hope
(10:50):
I would like to speak to everyone who does talk
shows and who hosts stop using the word progressive, lefties,
live roles, etc. Use the D word Democrats. That's what
they are. We have to make that word as hated
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as other words that only have the first initial.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Okay, well, thank you for the call, Charlotte. I appreciate
it very much. I don't think all Democrats should be
painting with the same brush, which is why I use
the term progressive, because I think a lot of the
policies that I object to don't belong to the Democrat Party.
They belong to the progressive wing of the Democrat Party.
The Democrat Party, however, has been taken over by the
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progressive wing, and so far they haven't put up The
moderates have not put up a good fight, and I
think they should and maybe they do deserve to be
tarred by the same brush as the progressives for not
putting up a bigger fight. But I want to talk
more about DEI and the fact that the Trump administration
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is not the only weapon that we have again DEI.
The marketplace also does its part in dismantling DEI and
bringing woke policies to an end. And we saw the
beginning of that a couple of years ago with the
saga of bud Light, which was pretty funny as long
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as you don't work for, you know, Anheuser Busch and
need your job and big Light cause bud Light caused
you to be fired. It was.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
It was.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
America's best selling beer, and its marketing was aimed at
guys who, no matter what their politics were, just wanted
a beer, cold beer in a good time. But like
a lot of companies, they changed and became woke with
the advent of the Bond administration and the enforcement of
DEI policies, and they the company became woke and started
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emphasizing diversity, equity, and clude and social goals over profits
and sales. And the culmination of that movement within the
company culminated in spring of twenty twenty three when it
launched a social media campaign starring a transgender activist, Dylan mulvaney,
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and it just backfired in a spectacular fashion, and customers
boycotted bud Light, and it cost bud Light it spot
as the country's most popular beer. And it's pretty clear
at this point in time that it probably will never
get back to that position again. It held it for
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so long, and it had done such a good job
in marketing. And then what happened is they hired a
marketer a not to upset our last caller, but they
hired a progressive left marketer as because they were trying
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to they wanted to achieve it's their DEI goals as
opposed to as opposed to make money for their shareholders.
Her name was Alyssa Heinerschet, and she had been promoted
to vice president of marketing, and she'd never made a
secret of her progressive politics, and she said that you
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know her, this was her this was her her cause,
and this is what she wanted to do. And when
she came into into power there in the marketing department,
she had Anheuser Busch give up it can't even too
the word exclusive rights to advertise alcohol during the Super Bowl,
which was a really big deal because they had they
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had the rights for thirty three years and as soon
as they gave them up, competitors bounced, and Heinerscheltz said, well,
we need to do this because we're trying to rebalance
the company and we're trying to be more socially aware.
They started donating more money to lgbt Q groups, and
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she went on a podcast. She had a podcast experience
appearance which has become very famous, where she said that
bud Light had been kind of a brand of freddy
out of touch humor and it was really important that
they have a more inclusive approach. And what they did
was then higher Dylan mulvaney, and that was the culmination
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of what she wanted to do, and it was a
bridge too far for most American beer drinkers. I mean,
at the time, the transgender topic was a hot topic
as it is now, actually, and it was a divisive one,
I think because most Americans didn't care how people dressed
or identified what they cared about, or sex change surgeries
for children, that's a different story. And sixteen states had
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just passed laws regulating the practice. Back in twenty twenty three,
twenty five states had banned biological mails from competing against
women in school sports. The country was very divided over
the issue.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And then.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Just before they launched a Dylan mulvaaney ad campaign, you
had that school shooting in Nashville, Texas, and the shooter
was transgender. So this is the atmosphere in which the videos,
the Dylan mulvaney videos hit the marketplace, and it could
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not have been worse timing in the world. Nothing about
that made sense. It was completely woke, completely out of
touch with the customers, and completely off touch with America.
Bud Light's generic appeal was its stock in trade advertising
had been aimed at dedicated sports fans. Yet here you
have in the bud Light ad you had Mulvaney dressed
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like Audrey Hepburn saying about, you know, March madness coming up.
I thought we were all having a had tick month,
but it turns out it has something to do with
sports that doesn't understand what march madness means. To say
that using Mulvainy to pitch bud Light was a debacle
doesn't even begin to touch it. Bud Light lost its
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easy going persona sacrificed on the altar of progressive politics,
and they still haven't recovered from that. That's the biggest
example of the marketplace taking care of a of a
company that went too woke, too far, too fast. And
it's not the only example out there, but I think
it's the most spectacular to show you that it's not
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just six six six six eight sixty eight. This is
the Kooner Report. I'm Sandy Shack filling in for Jeff Coooner,
and as we end the show and the week, I
want to give you hope in the world against THEI
wokeness intolerance. You know, before before the break, we were
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talking about examples from of wokeness being destroyed by the
marketplace of bud Light in twenty twenty three, but you know,
we just got an example of this last week. In
the past couple of weeks, if you've seen the trials
and tribulations of cracker barrel. I don't know if you've
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seen it, if you paid attention to it, it certainly
interested me. Cracker barrel has long been known for, you know,
it's a combination of rustic charm and country dishes, like
you know, biscuits and gravy. And I go to cracker barrel.
There's a cracker barrel at the excuse me, at the
outlet mall here in Massachusetts that has a that's right
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there that we kind of it's like destination shopping. We
do shopping and then we go get comfort food at
the cracker barrel. But it's new. CEO uh decided that
the old approach wasn't working anymore, and she planned some
major changes. She said that we're just not as relevant
as we once were. And this is at a conference
call on her you know, with all the affiliates, the
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the the people on her board and so forth, and
she wanted to make some changes. I mean, have you
heard this before. Hmmm. Apparently she was not familiar with
the bud lights saga, and you know, she wanted to
to wake things up a little bit, all right. They
wanted to Some of the changes were you know, putting
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certain new things on the menu like chili corn bread
or halopenia corn bread and okay, and some new menu items.
So far, I don't have a problem with any with
any of that.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
But then she made a decision to do something that
sparked a firestorm, a social media firestorm, and that was
they wanted to change the logo, redesign the logo. It's
the first redesign in forty eight years, and it removed
the iconic old man leading on a barrel as well
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as the pinto being shape behind the name, which was
a nod to one of the original side dishes offered
when Cracker Barrel opened back in nineteen sixty nine. And
you know, the chain's name itself comes from the barrels
that they used to deliver used to deliver the crackers
to the country stores and then they would double as
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makeshift tables for community gatherings, and you know, people found
it iconic and comforting, and the rebrand basically wiped that out.
It said nothing about history or tradition, and it was
it kind of looked like it was, how do we
make this as generic as possible and not offend anybody,
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which is a very woke approach to business, and I
would think that people would have learned not to do that.
And almost immediately, Cracker Barrel lost one hundred million dollars
in market value. Shares fell from fell seven point two
percent almost immediately, and it was just like wow, I mean,
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the market just had a vicious, vicious response to this.
And you know, I would have thought that they would
have figured out that wokeness is an investment factor that
they have to, you know, put into the mix. You
have to kind of figure out, especially since you know,
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if you're a publicly held company, you have a responsibility
to your shareholders. You can't use this company just to
promote your own political agenda. And that's what wokeness does.
It's generally defined as subjecting the culture and business to
left wing dogma involving race, sex, and viewing things that
are Americana bad. And when your brand is tied up
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with Americana, as Cracker Barrels is, you're slitting your own throat.
And that's what they discovered, is that that's what was
going to happen. They were slitting their own throat. So
what happened While President Trump weighed in on the whole
Cracker Barrel thing, which I thought was good. I thought
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that was a very good thing. He posted on his
social media account. Cracker Barrel should go back to the
old logo, admit a mistake based on customer response the
ultimate poll, and managed the company better than ever before.
They got a billion dollars with the free publicity if
they play their cards right. Very tricky to do, but
a great opportunity. Have a major news conference today, make
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Cracker Barrel a winner again. Remember, in just a short
period of time, I made the United States of America
the hottest country anywhere in the world. One year ago
it was dead. So he's giving the management of Cracker
Barrel a roadmap back out of the woke well that
they found themselves in when they tried to screw around
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with their with their background of being American kitch basically.
And so what did Cracker Barrel do? I think, you know,
given the fact that President Trump just showed them the
way they caved to public pressure, and they're going to
switch the logo back from the generic hexagon with the
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word Cracker Barrel in it to the old timer again.
And I think that that is appropriate. And I think
that it was about time. It's funny because Cracker Barrel's founder,
co founder, Tommy Low, who's ninety three years old, was
not happy with what was going on and had a
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few words to say to to everybody about their their
attempt to rebrand cut seven A please, Mike, my logo
rolled out the other day.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Oh that's crazy, that's nothing. That's to bland nothing, it's pitiful.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Do you think she knows the story of Cracker Barrel.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
I don't think so. I heard she was a Taco Bell.
But what's Taco Bell know about Cracker Barrel and count food?
And the food is something that didn't need to work
all spending seven hundred million dollars to do that is
all I do. Not just throwing money out the street.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, they're just throwing good money after bad basically is
what he's saying. And that's the guy who founded the company,
made a successful nationwide chain and became part of the
you know, American zeitgeist, the American lexicon, Cracker Barrel and
the and you have this woke CEO coming in going
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from Taco Bell apparently saying I can fix this, I
can make it even better. And mmmm, we learned a
tough lesson, and that is the rules that worked under
the Biden administration, which was promoting intolerance, and which was
promoting policy over merit, and screw profits don't work anymore.
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That's a hard lesson to learn, but at least they
learned it.