Did They Really Close the Files?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, let me ask all of you. I think this
is the ultimate log now to throw on the fire.
I think it's clearly obvious now that the CIA has
grown way too big, way too strong, way too powerful.
Same thing with the FBI. It is riddled with corruption,
it has become weaponized, politicized from A to Z. You

(00:21):
could go on the NSSA. I mean, there's so many
of them, these three letter agencies. Is it time to
start abolishing these agencies? In other words, I go back
to one of my original texts that I read, you know,
three hours ago on the show, which is, it's not
a question of personnel anymore.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
It doesn't matter who.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
You put at the top of the CIA or the
FBI or the Secret Service or whatever whatever, just pick
your department. They're so big, so powerful that they almost
are like creatures in their own right that the answer
now is just less government, period. The government has just
gotten too big, too wealthy, too powerful, too corrupt, too

(01:08):
out of control, and no one now can just rein
it in. And you know, many people point out, notice
we have all of these alphabet agencies. But in the past,
we used to win our wars. Now we don't win
our wars. In the past, we were a much freer country.

(01:30):
So we've given up so many of our rights and
civil liberties in supposedly for greater security, and we're getting
less security and less freedom. And maybe it's time to
just start to burn these agencies to the ground, cut
them and get rid of them and abolish them. I'm

(01:50):
just throwing it out there. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight. Now, as for Jeffrey Epstein,
do you believe he killed himself or do you believe
he was murdered? And Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, have
they lost your trust? Do you believe they are lying

(02:13):
or do you think there is a grand strategy involved?
Stay patient? This will all make sense in a few months.
Skippy in South Boston. Thanks for holding Skippy and welcome.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Hello, Hello jeff Hiki. I think he was murdered. Helen Keller,
could she could forget this one quicker that these people
would say he killed himself, that's crazy. But getting back
to that fellow rob from Denham, that guy as soon
as he called and he said, oh you sitting down
like a melodramatic, like he's going to rock your world
with this move. He gave you nothing. All he did
was build up a resume at this lawyer who I

(02:51):
don't know if he knows mon fifty years ago. This
guy's been the lawyer from from the mafia to julist
and everything else in between. And whenever you hit him
with the particulars, Yeah, but what about the protocol that
was not followed through with the suicide watch and he
just pushed that. Uh even forentic guy. Oh, they make
mistakes to us. This guy he talks about you sitting down,

(03:13):
Well he ought to be sitting down, Jeff because he
was full of crap. He had no idea what he
was talking about.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, and Skippy, the thing is, he's this friend of
his is the lawyer for Julaane Maxwell. Well, I mean,
come on, Julane Maxwell was Jeffrey Epstein's enabler. I mean,
she got the girls, she got the you know, the
the children, she set up the appointments, she had the
black book. She there, she was. She was his top accomplice.

(03:40):
So obviously he's going to go on and say that
he was suicide. Of course, that's what the lawyer is
going to say. This lawyer is not going to say,
you know, Julane Maxwell's you know, the person that was
basically she was you know, soliciting, you know, procuring children
for was murdered. They gotta stick with the suicide narrative

(04:03):
or else Jelaane Maxwell herself is going to be in
big trouble. So the lawyer has an interest in saying
it was a suicide.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
That's why I'm like, now.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
The only thing that I found, how do I say
this a bit startling was cause you know Rob has
called over many years, I've met him a few times.
He strikes me as a you know, very honest guy,
straight shooter. It's when he said, no, no, Jeff, I
believe him, and this was like, look, these are some
things you just don't want to know. In other words,

(04:35):
threats are flying. We're in very dangerous territory. The less
you know, the better. And the only reason why Skippy
I look, I think I think he was clearly murdered.
Don't get me wrong, but that's the same sense I
got when I look in the faces of Cash Ptel
and Dan Bongino. I urge everybody look at the interview.

(04:56):
You know, they don't look to me like people are like, hey,
I'm setting the record straight, A, B and C. Here's why. No,
they're looking away, they're looking down. They got a nervous
tick on their face. They look scared. They'd something someone
got to them, or something is going on, or they're

(05:17):
being told to say something that they don't believe. But
I don't look at these two and say, oh yeah, oh,
they're speaking from the heart. I see the exact opposite.
Final word to you, Skippy.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Well, Jeff, if they are compromising and Tom test the
synamics to grow out, all right, are you going to
be putting a web now for every other issue we say,
they might have to just bypass this whole.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Thing with that island stuff, with what was going on
there and wanted all the other things that they're supposed
to be going after because they might be in football.
We can't make this play. We're gonna have to We'll
just go to our next play of action. All these
other eventures we have to get into, because if they're
compromising on this, are they going to be crampromising something else?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Well, that's you nailed it, Skipie. That's the see you're
When you're caught lying, then I don't believe you. And
if I don't believe you, I don't trust you, and
if I don't trust you to me, how can I
believe anything you say going into the future.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
That's why.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Look, if I were advising them, I would just say
it's an ongoing investigation.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
We're not saying anything more. That's all. That's all they
have to say.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
You know, can't talk about it, very sensitive and well,
when we know something definitive, we'll let you know. But
instead they're basically telling us toe the deep state line
after both of them. You see, it's not like they're
just you know, Joe sixpack. These are two people who

(06:49):
made their careers out of challenging the deep state. These
are two people who said, openly, repeatedly Epstein was murdered
and we're going to get to the bottom of it.
What happened in Butler, Pennsylvania was clearly part of an
inside job. All Right, We've got a couple of lines
open if you want to be part of the show.

(07:10):
Six one seven two six six six sixty eight sixty
eight six one seven, two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
Now regarding Thomas Crooks, the would be assassin of President
Trump and Butler Pennsylvania, you know, notice we know hardly
anything about him. Again, I to me, this is unbelievable.

(07:35):
We know hardly anything about him. Why did he try
to kill President Trump? What was his social media like,
who was he in contact with, who was he talking to?
Who was he communicating with? And I could go on
and on and on. We know absolutely nothing. Now why
is that? And this is Caitlin on Messenger and I

(07:58):
think she makes an absolute phenomeninal point, Jeff, we knew
more about the insurance company CEO shooter Mangioni, Luigi Mangioni,
within twenty four hours. We knew his entire life that
I'm like, that's true.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
You're completely right.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
This guy who came within a millimeter of assassinating the
leading presidential candidate at the time, a former president of
the United States, and most people know hardly nothing about him.
And that's because the Secret Service and the FBI O
contrere A Cash Patel and Dan Bongino have been deliberately

(08:45):
sweeping things under the rug that there's no question that
there's a cleanup going on, and they're telling us there's
no there there. Come on, well, let's get seriously, let's
get serious.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Now. Look, many of you are asking a very obvious question.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
We know they know, forgive me, they know what's in
these videos, and in these tapes they can see these
powerful people that are molesting and having inappropriate relations. It's
a family show having inappropriate relations with underage girls and children.
Why aren't there arrest being made? Forget releasing it to

(09:29):
the public for a second, why aren't arrests being made.
They've had these tapes now for over five years. Not
one person outside of Jolaine Maxwell, who is his enabler.
Outside of that, no one else has been arrested. No
one else has gone to jail.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Why is that?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
And the witnesses that helped put Julaane Maxwell in prison,
who said, I can tell you other powerful people that
we were. They're naming names suddenly now they're all conveniently
dying of suicide. So when they throw out Bill Gates,
when they throw out Bill Clinton, when they start throwing
these names left, right and center, suddenly they end up dead.

(10:16):
But just think about it, five years and we're counting
no one in those videos, in those I mean it's
on tape. For God's sake, he was blackmailing them. He
had cameras in every single room, including the bathroom. I mean,
in other words, if you were molesting a child or
an underaar or having sex with an underage girl, he

(10:38):
had you on tape. Ooh ho, he had you six
ways to Sunday. Not one person has been arrested again
outside of Jolane Maxwell. There's a cover up. There's an
obvious cover up taking place now, very quickly. One last text,
and I want to go back to the phone lines.
This is from six to three and I know six

(11:00):
o three, So I trust six o three and I
trust this very very I believe him and I trust
him very much. And that's why I'm giving this a
lot of a lot of play on the air now
about the shooting in Butler, that there was an obvious
cover up by the Secret Service and the FBI. Jeff,

(11:23):
I am close personal friends with a publicly known private
investigator in Pennsylvania whose firm was hired by the Trump
family to conduct a thorough and extensive boots on the
ground investigation into the assassination attempt in Butler, PA. This

(11:45):
investigation went on for months. I have personally been briefed
on the extensive evidence that was uncovered, as well as
the interference operations that were carried out by local, county, state,
and federal officials to thwart and obstruct the private investigators involved.

(12:07):
And I can tell you firsthand that the official statements
made by Cash Ptel and Dan Bongino do not and
not is in caps comport with the investigations findings to
which I'm referring to. I think it's pretty obvious that's

(12:31):
what I mean. We're being lied to, and to me,
I'm just sick and tired of being lied to, even
if you're being threatened, even if you want to play
three dimensional chess however you want to, you know, look
at it. Don't lie. Once you lie, man, you've got
no credibility left. Am I wrong? Tim in the great

(12:54):
state of South Carolina. Thanks for holding Tim, and.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
Welcome Hi Jeff, as always, thanks for having me again.
Pleasure answer your question. And I say this respectfully to
answer your question. Yes, you're wrong. Okay. The expression on
their faces during the interview is called discipline and restraint. Okay,

(13:22):
I'm not gonna be the most popular or color this morning,
but i have to take exception to everyone's take on this,
including doctor Grace. Okay, we are in a war. Okay,
there are tactics involved. You have to lull the enemy

(13:43):
to sleep. You never tell the enemy what you're doing
or what you're about to do. That is just it's
not how things work. There is no way that those
two guys can just get on national TV and just
tell people what's going on and tell people the truth.
They can't do that, Jeff. That's wrong, it's not right.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Sorry, Tim, No, Tim, I promise, I'll give you all
the time in the world. And I'm very happy you called,
and I'm very happy you're giving another side. Okay, So
please don't take this, and I'm being hostile quite the contrary,
But Tim, I don't quite understand it's the wrong thing
to tell the truth.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I don't follow you there.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
No, obviously it's not the wrong thing to tell the truth.
But in their positions and in the war that we're in,
everyone's watching and listening to them, including the enemy, you
can't just go on TV, Jeff and just be outright
truthful to us. You can't. You have to remember, for

(14:44):
those of your callers out there who are following this. Okay,
President Trump communicates with us, how does he do it?
He does it on truth Social Okay, for anyone out
there who is aware. He communicated with us this past
weekend on truth Social He put out three truths that

(15:05):
were then relayed over to X. Okay, they were very explicit.
One of them was a video. Was a video, and
the crux of that video was suicide. It talked about
all of the victims, or a partial list of the
victims of Hillary. Okay. President Trump also put out a truth.

(15:30):
Don't worry, I'm gonna tie this all together. But he
also put out a truth. He was asking us to
read truth if there should be military tribunals. Okay, he's
speaking to us. Okay. So what you're seeing here with
Bongino and Patel, yes, you're getting a mixed message. You're

(15:52):
getting a completely different message. Okay. You have to understand.
Everyone needs to understand. The enemy is watching, the enemy
is listening. Jeff. The enemy is ruthless. If there's anything
we've observed throughout these last several years is how ruthless
they are. They will kill, they will name, they will murder,
they they'll do it all. They will try to throw

(16:15):
someone in prison for the rest of his life. Okay,
it Tell and Bongino are.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Tim Can you do me? A favor. I want you
to hang on.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Okay, let's go right back to Tim in South Carolina. Tim, So,
let me just ask you. I understand where you're coming from.
The enemy is devious, the enemy is ruthless, the enemy
is cunning. The enemy goes for the jugular. So they
got to be playing three dimensional chests. It's got to
be strategic. They can't just blurt stuff out and telegraph

(16:49):
every move. I hear you, Tim, why not just say
it's an ongoing investigation and leave it at that. What's
your answer to that?

Speaker 6 (17:00):
Because you have to put out to use their terminology
misinformation and disinformation. You have to confuse and confound. If
they were to say it's an ongoing investigation, we're not
going to comment any further. That's not really throwing them off,
that's not lulling them to sleep, so to speak. But

(17:23):
if you put out a completely different narrative, in other words,
if you use their tactics they've.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Used over the years, it.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
Can be constructive when you're in a war. The answer
to your second question about the Epstein files is I
don't I don't know the answer to that question. I
don't know why they're keeping that still, but I think
there's way too much criticism of Catel and bon Jini

(17:53):
right now. They have been victims of the deep state.
They if if you were listening to them, they've had podcasts,
they've been they've been they've been special guests on shows,
and they've been interviewed several times leading up to the election. Uh,

(18:14):
you know, obviously we know government gangsters. They're coming for them.

Speaker 7 (18:19):
They are.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
There is no question in my mind. They are too
believable people. If you will, I hope you're.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Right, Tim, I really hope you're right. Tim.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Really look well, I mean, you know, we're going to
follow this story. Obviously, they are promising arrests in the summer.
They have said that, both of them that big things
are going to happen in the summer. So you know,
summer is only a couple of months away. So act
he's right around the corner. But I mean, I'm thinking
they're looking at July August in terms of their you know,
their timeline. So Tim, I really hope you're right. And

(18:53):
fingers crossed. Tim, thank you very much for that call.
I really appreciated excellent call. Rick and Cambridge, thanks for
holding Rick and welcome.

Speaker 8 (19:03):
Hey, Jeff, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
How are you? Rick?

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Good?

Speaker 8 (19:06):
Listen, there was a famous billionaire who was also a
spy for many, many, many years, and he just happened
to be killed by the people he was spying for.
And he just happened to be the father of Giselene Maxwell.
And he worked for Israel.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
H Robert Maxwell. No, I know, and by the way,
a big supporter of the European Union and a socialist
through and through.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
But let that go, Rick, please keep going.

Speaker 8 (19:34):
Don't you think that that's Epstein must have been working
for them? I mean, obviously, that's why nobody will say anything.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well, Rick, what I've heard is, and you tell me
if you agree or disagree that they say he was
both a CIA asset and a masade as set, that
he was working for both the CIA and Massad.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
What say you?

Speaker 8 (19:54):
Possibly? But I mean, obviously it's similar to the Liberty incident.
You know, nobody's saying anything, so people need to get
online and do some research.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Rick.

Speaker 8 (20:05):
Do you think he was murdered absolutely, just like Robert Maxwell.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Interesting? Interesting, Rick, Thank you, I appreciate a very good call.
Connor in the Great State of Florida. Thanks for holding
Connor and welcome.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
Hey Jeff, I to have a chance to speak with you,
having having been able to get through in the past,
We're really happy that I can speak with you today.
So when I was first calling, you know, I was
I was picking up on the heels of Grace's comment
and I was thinking, you know, I'm one hundred percent
in agreement with her. If you can't do the job,
then then get out of the way. And as I've

(20:42):
had some time to kind of you know, sit on
hold and listen to the other callers, it is multi layered.
I mean, you have a situation where there is information
that we just don't have access to, and they know
things that we don't, and they may be in positions
where they feel threatened. And on the one hand, you
can say, well, you know, if you can't take the heat,

(21:02):
get out of the kitchen. But on the other hand,
that's really hard to do because they could also be
doing a lot of great things behind the scenes, which
I believe they are, but this one thing they can't
push the needle on further than you know, what they've
done so far. I'm talking about Epstein and and and
the Trump assassination attempt in Butler. And so you know,
there's this kind of give and take going off of

(21:24):
you know, the couple of callers that you've had before me.
But with that said, you know, what is the threshold
until we say we can't we can't heal as a nation.
Uh if if we don't have full transparency from our
leadership and the institutions within within our government.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
This is dealing on the in terms of Epstein with children.
It's the most demonic, disgusting thing that you could possibly do.
And we all know the story of Epstein, and and
and you know, the other thing too, is that we're
kind of sitting here. You know, it quacks like a
duck and it walks like a but we're not supposed
to really say it's duck. We all know that he
probably was involved with Massad, He probably was involved with CIA.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
That's the crux of it things Connor.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Look, I think it's a great way to end the show,
really great call.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Look.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I think the deep State had their tentacles in Epstein.
They were using Epstein just like he was using them.
And I think that's why everybody's trying to bury this